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Author Topic: Counting cards ? Reducing odds of losing ? Is it real ?  (Read 822 times)
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June 09, 2016, 02:38:59 PM
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It is definitely real thing which works.The main thing is everyone simply can not count cards during tough situation.There are plenty of players who has ability has because of this they make money most of their bets.This is when you are in physical casino but online is really hard to apply this strategy of counting cards.
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June 09, 2016, 02:52:55 PM
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It is definitely real thing which works.The main thing is everyone simply can not count cards during tough situation.There are plenty of players who has ability has because of this they make money most of their bets.This is when you are in physical casino but online is really hard to apply this strategy of counting cards.

I wonder how exactly its done. I have heard that people pace their fingers like a spider when they count and must be very fast. I mean the cards go through so fast. I have also heard of dishonest casinoes adding another deck.
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June 09, 2016, 03:27:55 PM
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I am also good in counting of cards and couple of my friends are expert in this thing.When at weekend we all are together surely cards in usual things to play for fun.It is art and necessary if you want to be called gambler.Unfortunately you can not apply this thing in online casinos as your have no idea what is happening around you.
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June 09, 2016, 04:21:53 PM
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It's simple addition or subtraction. Once the odds go a certain way then you make a bigger bet because you have an increased edge. This betting behavior is what casinos look for when catching card counters. Also, dealers are trained to count cards and recognize card counting themselves, especially for single deck blackjack.
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June 09, 2016, 05:21:45 PM
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In real casinos it is hard to do, although it is impossible. If you are good at counting cards then you should try online video blackjack. I tried it on Betcoin once and I could not see a way how the casinos could oberve if you are counting cards or not. This could be a good way to make some money, but I did not try it. Just an observation.

counting cards doesn't only reduce the odds of losing , it actually gives the player the edge over the casino
it's hard a lot and casinos these days are more aware of such things , but yeah there are many stories about players who succeeded to beat the casinos in the past

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June 09, 2016, 09:06:15 PM
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I am also good in counting of cards and couple of my friends are expert in this thing.When at weekend we all are together surely cards in usual things to play for fun.It is art and necessary if you want to be called gambler.Unfortunately you can not apply this thing in online casinos as your have no idea what is happening around you.

Have you ever done it at a casino ? How much did you make if you have ?

It`s not a myth, but its really hard to count cards. Did you ever try simple game with cards. You take all deck and you have just 2 seconds per card, then you try to remember how they are lined? Well try and tell us how much cards did you remember.

And that was easy, you were concentrated on that. But under casino lights, million sounds around, real money in front of you, watchin about who knows how many things.. and in that moment try to count cards. Well its very very hard thing to do. You need to have good memory, and to practice it a lot.


I tried and wow, lol no i can't remember anything xP
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June 09, 2016, 09:25:45 PM
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Counting cards in Blackjack as described with the plus Minus strategy is only part of the story and in many respects the easy part of improving your odds.

Even before bothering with card counting you must learn and apply the Basic Strategy of how to play every hand taking account of your cards & the Dealer up card. Now the tricky bit dependant on the "Count" which has to be normalised for how far through the deck(s) the dealer has gone you then modify your bet and also the way the cards are played.

It's also got tougher these days to find a good game with Casinos only paying 6:5 for Blackjack and Hitting a soft 17. So yes it's worth it, but takes a lot of practice and can make you head hurt....  Smiley

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June 09, 2016, 09:50:32 PM
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Its very real as everyone else has stated.

and it is surprisingly easy to learn OP.

Learned it during college for craps and giggles.

Doesn't change the games odds persay,

it justs a way of you knowing when the odds are in your favor via the count.


I play BJ at bars btw, never at a casino. I'm sure casino has faster hands than the half tipsy bar tender does.

Just don't get caught, its not fun getting kicked out x)

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June 10, 2016, 06:28:52 AM
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I used to get to Vegas once a year back in the late 80's, used to go to Comdex which was a big computer exhibition and was when I first started counting cards at Blackjack.

On a trip playing Basic Strategy and just using the count to vary bets and a few tweeks on when to draw I used to recon on playing for as long as I wanted and would usually make a few hundred Dollars on the trip.


Remember one Day when a friend and I had a break from the Computers and had been playing for a couple of Hours in the old Bourbon Street Hotel. I was counting and my friend was following my lead. We had been loosing and it was getting to time to go back to work. The table had a deal that left it awash with low cards. It was towards the end of the shoe and the count was sky high.

I pushed the remainder of my chips out for the next hand and my friend did the same. Pit Boss came over and pushed the money back saying they did not want our business and we were asked to leave.

So yes it works, more difficult these Days as the conditions since the recession are not as good as they used to be, but with good Basic Strategy and some bet variance according to the count you can get close to even with the house.

Worth remembering that a lot of the online games shuffle between every hand, so no point in counting.

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June 10, 2016, 01:52:00 PM
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I used to get to Vegas once a year back in the late 80's, used to go to Comdex which was a big computer exhibition and was when I first started counting cards at Blackjack.

On a trip playing Basic Strategy and just using the count to vary bets and a few tweeks on when to draw I used to recon on playing for as long as I wanted and would usually make a few hundred Dollars on the trip.


Remember one Day when a friend and I had a break from the Computers and had been playing for a couple of Hours in the old Bourbon Street Hotel. I was counting and my friend was following my lead. We had been loosing and it was getting to time to go back to work. The table had a deal that left it awash with low cards. It was towards the end of the shoe and the count was sky high.

I pushed the remainder of my chips out for the next hand and my friend did the same. Pit Boss came over and pushed the money back saying they did not want our business and we were asked to leave.

So yes it works, more difficult these Days as the conditions since the recession are not as good as they used to be, but with good Basic Strategy and some bet variance according to the count you can get close to even with the house.

Worth remembering that a lot of the online games shuffle between every hand, so no point in counting.

Rich


Wow that pitboss does like such a dick. You just want to win your loses back. Lol I like bow he called it "your business" yea casino owners can't handle when they out smarted but its totally cool if they cheat. Load of crap if you ask me. Sorry that , that had to happen. Not sure why he did that if you were already losing. Greedy huh?
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