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June 12, 2016, 09:02:03 AM
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ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — Christina Grimmie was a vivacious, outgoing singer whose career was born on social media and propelled toward the big time by television. She didn't consider herself a famous person, not like the judges on "The Voice," where she competed, but she had a following that was as enthusiastic about her music as she was.

Kevin Loibl wasn't like her. While she was a YouTube star, he seemed to be a shadow of Grimmie's online presence. He left little trace online.

The two apparently had no personal connection to one another until Friday night when police said Loibl traveled 100 miles from his home in St. Petersburg to an Orlando concert venue. There, he shot Grimmie as she was signing autographs for fans after performing. He then fatally shot himself after being tackled by Grimmie's brother, Marcus.

Grimmie died several hours later early Saturday. Millions of people, far more than those who loved her for her music, were shocked and saddened by her death.

"She was doing a meet-and-greet, just signing autographs and selling merchandise. This white male approached her and opened fire, striking her," Orlando Police Chief John Mina said Saturday at a news conference. "There is no indication that he knew her. We're looking into that to try to find a motive for the crime."

Grimmie, 22, isn't the only person in the entertainment industry to have been killed by a stranger. Preceding her were John Lennon, designer Gianni Versace and 1980s sitcom star Rebecca Shaeffer.

"Christina was a natural, gifted talent that comes along so rarely," wrote singer Adam Levine, who was Grimmie's mentor on "The Voice." ''She was taken from us too soon."

Grimmie was most widely known from those TV appearances two years ago, when she rocked listeners with her renditions of songs including "Wrecking Ball" and "Can't Help Falling in Love," and finished third.

"The Voice" paid tribute Saturday to Grimmie on its official Twitter page: "There are no words. We lost a beautiful soul with an amazing voice."

Grimmie first gained attention seven years ago when she posted online a video of herself playing piano and singing "Don't Wanna Be Torn" by Miley Cyrus as television alter ego Hannah Montana.

In 2011, Entertainment Weekly crowned her "the veritable queen of YouTube musicians," already with nearly 1 million subscribers (she has 3.2 million now), an EP of original songs (titled "Find Me"), a single ("Advice") that was getting airplay on Radio Disney, and an opening spot touring with Selena Gomez.

Her growing success sparked Grimmie's move to Los Angeles, far from her hometown of Marlton, New Jersey, a small community some 20 miles from Philadelphia. She was intent on finding success on her own terms, writing songs that expressed her interests, "not just dancing and getting drunk and blah-blah-blah," as she told Entertainment Weekly. "I wanted to write with feeling and emotion."

"She just had a really powerful voice. She was incredibly talented and she sang from her heart," said 17-year-old Kaitlin Martin, a fan, who was waiting outside Orlando's The Plaza Live concert venue Friday night when she heard loud "pops" coming from inside.

"We thought at first they were balloons ... but then security started running all over the place yelling at people to get out because someone has a gun and someone is shooting. Everyone is just running all over the place," said Martin, who traveled to see to the concert from Brunswick, Georgia. "It was chaos."

Detectives were searching Loibl's cellphone and social media accounts looking for clues as to a motive, Mina said, but they weren't aware the suspect had stalked Grimmie.

At Loibl's home, in St. Petersburg, someone left a note on the front door, expressing the "deepest sorrow" for the loss "to the family, friends & fans of the very talented, loving Christina Grimmie." The note said there would be no other comment. No one answered the door to the one-story house that had a rusted, metal animal trap in the yard.

Unarmed security guards at The Plaza Live had checked bags and purses for contraband, Mina said, but there were no metal detectors or pat-downs of people as they entered the concert.

Loibl was armed with two handguns, two loaded magazines and a hunting knife, he said.

Police officers credited the singer's brother with preventing the gunman from hurting others by tackling him. Around 120 others were present at the time.

"Very heroic actions by Marcus Grimmie to jump in and it definitely could have prevented further loss of life," said Mina.

All events at The Plaza Live have been suspended until further notice, a spokeswoman said. "We appreciate everyone's understanding and support during this traumatic time," said a statement on its website.

Loibl had made travel arrangements to come to Orlando alone, as well as travel arrangements to go back home, but he didn't have a car, Mina said. The police chief wouldn't elaborate further.

"It does appear that he came here to commit this crime," Mina said


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June 12, 2016, 09:03:30 AM
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I hear there are multiple fatalities. News on that has not broke yet though. I assume you'll read it or here it in the next few minutes.
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June 12, 2016, 09:22:29 AM
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Florida is so shit in terms of civil rights, just like Texas.

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June 12, 2016, 09:38:42 PM
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Florida is so shit in terms of civil rights, just like Texas.

Indeed. Jim Crow FTW.

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June 13, 2016, 02:16:18 AM
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Florida is so shit in terms of civil rights, just like Texas.

Why do you want to mention civil rights in this topic? The attacker was an Afghan Muslim, and the majority of the victims were white. Now what this has to do with civil rights? What is the relation between civil rights and ISIS (which claimed the responsibility for the attack a few hours ago)? Race was not a major factor here.
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June 13, 2016, 03:04:03 AM
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I hear there are multiple fatalities. News on that has not broke yet though. I assume you'll read it or here it in the next few minutes.

I wish I was wrong here but I have good connections. 50 people dead and 50 more are injured. This was a tragedy, 50 Killed because of their sexual preference makes me sick.
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June 13, 2016, 03:54:41 AM
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I hear there are multiple fatalities. News on that has not broke yet though. I assume you'll read it or here it in the next few minutes.

I wish I was wrong here but I have good connections. 50 people dead and 50 more are injured. This was a tragedy, 50 Killed because of their sexual preference makes me sick.
I don't think it has anything to do with their sexual preference. Terrorist kills anyone that they want to regardless of it's sexual preference or race. They kill because they kill people.
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June 13, 2016, 04:58:03 AM
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This is a very tragic thing, prayers for everyone who was  at pulse it is really very bad thing  Cry
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June 13, 2016, 04:59:10 AM
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Florida is so shit in terms of civil rights, just like Texas.

Why do you want to mention civil rights in this topic? The attacker was an Afghan Muslim, and the majority of the victims were white. Now what this has to do with civil rights? What is the relation between civil rights and ISIS (which claimed the responsibility for the attack a few hours ago)? Race was not a major factor here.

ISIS has moral principles rooted in homophobia and misogyny, as well as anti liberalism, just like the far right at home. It has everything to do with civil rights.

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June 13, 2016, 05:57:07 AM
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I don't think it has anything to do with their sexual preference. Terrorist kills anyone that they want to regardless of it's sexual preference or race. They kill because they kill people.

Reports indicate that the perpetrator decided to attack, after getting offended by the sight of males kissing each other. So it seems that the attack was based on sexual preference. He had his 3 hours of fame.. and 50 individuals lost their lives. Had any of these victims carried a gun for self defense, at least three or four dozen lives would have been saved.
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June 13, 2016, 07:21:50 AM
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Not the worst mass shooting in US history. To state that is to project gross ignorance about Native tribe genocides. Also, the shooter was a US citizen so this was clearly an act of domestic terrorism. The guy was visited by the fbi twice and they knew he was linked to isis but didn't do shit. If their governmental regulation didn't work those two times, why do liberals think it would work for gun control?

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June 13, 2016, 07:41:47 AM
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People that you call liberal are on a cult. They follow a monolithic ideology where disagreement must be repressed and censored for the success of the collective ideology.

Since those people have gain the psychological control of most public institutions the only domestic terrorist in the USA are the constitutionalist white Christian males... And if they believe that the federal reserve is a scam to favorize a specific ethnic group they are to be suppressed using all tools of the states

Rememeber doing a prayer breakfast in a military installation by one of the most respected general in the us is forbidden. Flynn former heads of DIA himself has to go publicly to raise the alarm on what is going on...bundyfriends are executed on a road trap by the fbi...

In short the liberal agenda is used to weaken the us (while in Europe it's the refugee and economic warfare) to maybe prepare the goal of the one world gov ruled by the American oligarchs. Apparently China and Russia aren't interested in surrendering their highly and hardly fought independence, and the followers of the last Prophet of God have no problem with a one world gov, but don't even dream for one second of another law than the shaareeha... Miscreant!

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June 13, 2016, 07:46:12 AM
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I admit i became fan during her the voice career. As long she did something that still lives on even though everytime i hear her song. it makes me miss her more. rIP christine.
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June 13, 2016, 08:10:30 AM
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fuck trump and white people, lgbt solidarity with the muslims!

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June 13, 2016, 08:43:46 AM
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fuck trump and white people, lgbt solidarity with the muslims!

Some of the retarded LGBT guys still support the Islamic extremists. They will never realize the danger until it is too late. Still, there are some intelligent people among these guys. Pim Fortuyn was one of them. He foresaw the dangers from Muslim immigration, and mobilized the Dutch against the illegal immigrants.
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Florida is so shit in terms of civil rights, just like Texas.

Why do you want to mention civil rights in this topic? The attacker was an Afghan Muslim, and the majority of the victims were white. Now what this has to do with civil rights? What is the relation between civil rights and ISIS (which claimed the responsibility for the attack a few hours ago)? Race was not a major factor here.

Civil rights are about rights for LGBT people too - interesting that you assumed it was purely about race. Some of the victims were black. Note also how some of the Christian groups have been cheering these deaths. Also, the attacker was born in the USA - American born people getting access to guns and going on shoot-outs, where have we seen this movie before?

 
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June 13, 2016, 11:22:28 AM
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Florida is so shit in terms of civil rights, just like Texas.

Why do you want to mention civil rights in this topic? The attacker was an Afghan Muslim, and the majority of the victims were white. Now what this has to do with civil rights? What is the relation between civil rights and ISIS (which claimed the responsibility for the attack a few hours ago)? Race was not a major factor here.

Civil rights are about rights for LGBT people too - interesting that you assumed it was purely about race. Some of the victims were black. Note also how some of the Christian groups have been cheering these deaths. Also, the attacker was born in the USA - American born people getting access to guns and going on shoot-outs, where have we seen this movie before?

At the aurora theater I reckon!

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June 13, 2016, 02:14:08 PM
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Rest is peace to the victims. It's really saddening that a thing like this would happen, it doesn't really make any sense..  Sad

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June 13, 2016, 03:29:16 PM
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I hear there are multiple fatalities. News on that has not broke yet though. I assume you'll read it or here it in the next few minutes.

I wish I was wrong here but I have good connections. 50 people dead and 50 more are injured. This was a tragedy, 50 Killed because of their sexual preference makes me sick.
This horrible attack is more than a tragedy , obviously, it is a total massacre. motive for this bloody act is the most dreadful of all.Killing people because of their sexual prefrences violent thing that i have ever known. i hope injured ones will get well soon and our prayers go to lost ones.
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June 13, 2016, 04:59:26 PM
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I hear there are multiple fatalities. News on that has not broke yet though. I assume you'll read it or here it in the next few minutes.

I wish I was wrong here but I have good connections. 50 people dead and 50 more are injured. This was a tragedy, 50 Killed because of their sexual preference makes me sick.
This horrible attack is more than a tragedy , obviously, it is a total massacre. motive for this bloody act is the most dreadful of all.Killing people because of their sexual prefrences violent thing that i have ever known. i hope injured ones will get well soon and our prayers go to lost ones.

But they weren't killed for that reason.  They were killed to once again get Islamic Terror on the front pages.  You see, in the last several weeks it hadn't had the front page.
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