ETH = Game Over

[RealBitcoin]

do you believe the price will rise after the fork, or it will rmeain as it is in this moment? the price recovered quite a bit, but it still no where near its prime, i'm not sure if it is wise to keep my etheruem or dump it now

OP Why game over? See the chart and you can see how Ethereum price has been increased, it was 0.02145 and it was increase to 0.02322 which is an increase of +8%. If an investment of 10BTC was made then within 2 hours during the pump the profit would be 0.8BTC.

The hardfork didnt happen yet, plus we cannot know what long term consequences this event has produced.

A hardfork is a serious issue, it's not just your typical patch, it undermines the basic philosophy behind cryptocurrencies.

Of course speculators might still love it, but i`m pretty confident the majority of bitcoin users has just turned away from ETH for now.

Have you seen /Bitcoin reddit?

[bones261]

do you believe the price will rise after the fork, or it will rmeain as it is in this moment? the price recovered quite a bit, but it still no where near its prime, i'm not sure if it is wise to keep my etheruem or dump it now

OP Why game over? See the chart and you can see how Ethereum price has been increased, it was 0.02145 and it was increase to 0.02322 which is an increase of +8%. If an investment of 10BTC was made then within 2 hours during the pump the profit would be 0.8BTC.

Well if you believe ETH was just made as an investment vehicle, so people can try their luck and make profit, then yes, ETH is a rip roaring success. If you believe that Ethereum was made so people can purchase the Ether tokens and run Dapps and smart contracts that are actually worth a shit, then so far, it's an epic fail. Good luck in trading these tokens that don't have much use ATM for their stated purpose. It's kind of like going to a video arcade, buying tokens, and finding they are only useful to play some run down, vintage, pong machine.

[RealBitcoin]

do you believe the price will rise after the fork, or it will rmeain as it is in this moment? the price recovered quite a bit, but it still no where near its prime, i'm not sure if it is wise to keep my etheruem or dump it now

OP Why game over? See the chart and you can see how Ethereum price has been increased, it was 0.02145 and it was increase to 0.02322 which is an increase of +8%. If an investment of 10BTC was made then within 2 hours during the pump the profit would be 0.8BTC.

Well if you believe ETH was just made as an investment vehicle, so people can try their luck and make profit, then yes, ETH is a rip roaring success. If you believe that Ethereum was made so people can purchase the Ether tokens and run Dapps and smart contracts that are actually worth a shit, then so far, it's an epic fail. Good luck in trading these tokens that don't have much use ATM for their stated purpose. It's kind of like going to a video arcade, buying tokens, and finding there are only useful to play some run down, vintage, pong machine.

do you believe the price will rise after the fork, or it will rmeain as it is in this moment? the price recovered quite a bit, but it still no where near its prime, i'm not sure if it is wise to keep my etheruem or dump it now

OP Why game over? See the chart and you can see how Ethereum price has been increased, it was 0.02145 and it was increase to 0.02322 which is an increase of +8%. If an investment of 10BTC was made then within 2 hours during the pump the profit would be 0.8BTC.

"The markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent"

Eth might not collapse now, but in my opinion it's finished, both as a DAPP platform as a investment vehicle.

The technology might not, but then again the turing complete method is just too risky. Bitcoin with sidechains will be much better in my opinion!

[mining1]

It wont be better, bitcoin is outdated, slow, and rootstock is so behind ethereum in development. Its more likely for bitcoin to die than rootstock actually succeed. And bitcoin will die, its just a matter of time, untill then its a good milking cow ( nowadays mostly for chinese farmers since they mine it almost for free ).

[Spoetnik]

It's dead guys.. no one cares.. not even enough to bump ETH topics here anymore.
Notice how there is none on page one anymore ?
..when they ALL used to be ETH topics.

[mining1]

You say that as if topics here can actually move the market. If you think your low quality fud has any effect youre delusional. BTCtalk is mostly a circus show for entertaining.

[Spoetnik]

You say that as if topics here can actually move the market. If you think your low quality fud has any effect youre delusional. BTCtalk is mostly a circus show for entertaining.

And i am the one hanging around here advertising my bags ?
..thinking it WILL matter if you spam at Bitcointalk ?

When your coin revolves around this place you lost buddy boy.
You have to be DELUSIONAL to think the shit posted here matters.

In case you were not aware ?
What does matter is the entire fucking planet NOT HERE.
So..
I suggest you focus more effort on attaining *REAL* adoption for your scheme coin.
rather than being worried about my "Low Quality" FUD

And..
They did move the market son.
Ethereum's ultra super mega hype / advertising / spam campaign here worked on you idiots.
You lined up in droves screaming.. TAKE MY MONEY NOW
Pushing it to $20 a coin  
All of course fake volume from some of the greedy profiteer dregs of crypto-society here.
In other words the useless who plan on buying then dumping your "coin" <-- i use that term loosely.

You see my friendly little NOOB ACCOUNT / NOBODY those are the people you DO NOT want involved.
Take away all those empty pointless profiteer investments and intense whale market manipulation
..and you have yourself a dead pointless ICO Scheme-coin with no market cap at all.
AKA: a dead coin.
Look around even the scammy useless dregs around here don't even want it
The only thing propping up it's price is trapped Investards who can't get out or whales setting up fake walls.

You ETH shills are scared shitless of me and replied back to this topic asap LOL
..and banned me from your ETH scam coin IRC channel. (for no good reason)

Let me know if you need any more low quality FUD ..i have more

PS:
Ethereum is a DEAD scammy "coin scheme"

[ArticMine]

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PS:
Ethereum is a DEAD scammy "coin scheme"

Be Careful What You Wish For.  What if a crash in Ethereum sends Monero to the moon?

[angaper]

Despite that evident weakness in the ethereum protocol, it is very disappointing for me to see the price of ETH recovering its previous value these days. It is more than evident that the world of cryptocurrencies has left to prioritize the technological advances to prioritize the mere speculation, and the ethereum and the DAO events is a clear evidence of that.

[RealBitcoin]

Despite that evident weakness in the ethereum protocol, it is very disappointing for me to see the price of ETH recovering its previous value these days. It is more than evident that the world of cryptocurrencies has left to prioritize the technological advances to prioritize the mere speculation, and the ethereum and the DAO events is a clear evidence of that.

"The markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent"

But when it becomes rational, then they might become insolvent!

[Hueristic]

I think Ethereum recover and take his position again.
Yes, I will agree that the latest news was hit much interest in the project. Let's see what will be on.

The soft fork is set to confiscate any funds running an instance of the DAO code, not just TheDAO. The risk of asset forfeiture is exactly why I got into crypto.

No...wait...

I'm still amazed at the amount of people that just don't understand this. It's more than likely because they have never spent the time to build up assets and have to rely on daddy for an income.

[Spoetnik]

do you believe the price will rise after the fork, or it will rmeain as it is in this moment? the price recovered quite a bit, but it still no where near its prime, i'm not sure if it is wise to keep my etheruem or dump it now

OP Why game over? See the chart and you can see how Ethereum price has been increased, it was 0.02145 and it was increase to 0.02322 which is an increase of +8%. If an investment of 10BTC was made then within 2 hours during the pump the profit would be 0.8BTC.

Well if you believe ETH was just made as an investment vehicle, so people can try their luck and make profit, then yes, ETH is a rip roaring success. If you believe that Ethereum was made so people can purchase the Ether tokens and run Dapps and smart contracts that are actually worth a shit, then so far, it's an epic fail. Good luck in trading these tokens that don't have much use ATM for their stated purpose. It's kind of like going to a video arcade, buying tokens, and finding they are only useful to play some run down, vintage, pong machine.

Top shelf comment right here boys !
This one better make your leet meter perk up nice & hard cause this boy got game !
His analogy is hotter than the devil's toe nails at an all Satanist Bible-Thumper Barbecue.

[paratox]

Fair enough, but then the hashrate of the people who didn't vote, shouldn't be used to enforce the will of the ones who voted, because maybe they don't like any of these options.

Also in this case, if they dont vote it also means theyre okay with whatever outcome since if they disliked badly one result or wanted badly the other result, they would have voted already. And they could aswell not bother voting because they've seen the results "live" with yes leading the herd. So as you can see, there are plenty of options of why one wont vote, so you cannot simply take that inaction and go with the logic " silence is an answer too ". I mainly voted because i wanted badly not let the thief go away with milions of ether, possibly even 5 times more than he already stole because he took only ~20% of it , especially thinking about the future POS which will be implemented in early 2017. And in my opinion that would damage ethereum project more than 100 ethereum failed projects. The money losts arent even 10% as important as thief owning anywhere between 3.5% and 15% of ethereum tokens.
Forgot about this, but its an argument aswell : in a real world vote referendum, you can cancel your vote by doing whatever, voting both options, draw hitler face on the paper or whatever is crosing your mind. But here you cannot do that, so its either that, or that. If you dont vote, whatever you think in the back of your head will remain there, since you have the chance to express your option and you dont. The same for uk people who didnt vote for brexit, most likely there are more people who regret not voting because of the result. But it was their option and they ll live with it.
Conclusion : We live in an imperfect world, and we will continue to do so untill we either set the world on fire or an alien invasion will exterminate us. Untill then, we use what we have and deal with it, otherwise it would be anarchy since everyone has an opinion slightly different than the others and we would never agree about anything.

It seems the process isn't democratic after all.

If you go on ethpool and ethermine, you will see that (still) most votes are for the soft-fork (Non voters don't really have voice in this, like you said). Looking at the Ethereum chain, both pools don't enforce the softfork anymore.

So now they go against what people voted for. How is this a democratic decision? Shouldn't they have to live with the results of the vote?

[Docnaster]

Fair enough, but then the hashrate of the people who didn't vote, shouldn't be used to enforce the will of the ones who voted, because maybe they don't like any of these options.

Also in this case, if they dont vote it also means theyre okay with whatever outcome since if they disliked badly one result or wanted badly the other result, they would have voted already. And they could aswell not bother voting because they've seen the results "live" with yes leading the herd. So as you can see, there are plenty of options of why one wont vote, so you cannot simply take that inaction and go with the logic " silence is an answer too ". I mainly voted because i wanted badly not let the thief go away with milions of ether, possibly even 5 times more than he already stole because he took only ~20% of it , especially thinking about the future POS which will be implemented in early 2017. And in my opinion that would damage ethereum project more than 100 ethereum failed projects. The money losts arent even 10% as important as thief owning anywhere between 3.5% and 15% of ethereum tokens.
Forgot about this, but its an argument aswell : in a real world vote referendum, you can cancel your vote by doing whatever, voting both options, draw hitler face on the paper or whatever is crosing your mind. But here you cannot do that, so its either that, or that. If you dont vote, whatever you think in the back of your head will remain there, since you have the chance to express your option and you dont. The same for uk people who didnt vote for brexit, most likely there are more people who regret not voting because of the result. But it was their option and they ll live with it.
Conclusion : We live in an imperfect world, and we will continue to do so untill we either set the world on fire or an alien invasion will exterminate us. Untill then, we use what we have and deal with it, otherwise it would be anarchy since everyone has an opinion slightly different than the others and we would never agree about anything.

It seems the process isn't democratic after all.

If you go on ethpool and ethermine, you will see that (still) most votes are for the soft-fork (Non voters don't really have voice in this, like you said). Looking at the Ethereum chain, both pools don't enforce the softfork anymore.

So now they go against what people voted for. How is this a democratic decision? Shouldn't they have to live with the results of the vote?

There is a problem with the soft fork problem. So it is not to be implemented for now.

https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/06/28/security-alert-dos-vulnerability-in-the-soft-fork/

[AlphaSun]

Fair enough, but then the hashrate of the people who didn't vote, shouldn't be used to enforce the will of the ones who voted, because maybe they don't like any of these options.

Also in this case, if they dont vote it also means theyre okay with whatever outcome since if they disliked badly one result or wanted badly the other result, they would have voted already. And they could aswell not bother voting because they've seen the results "live" with yes leading the herd. So as you can see, there are plenty of options of why one wont vote, so you cannot simply take that inaction and go with the logic " silence is an answer too ". I mainly voted because i wanted badly not let the thief go away with milions of ether, possibly even 5 times more than he already stole because he took only ~20% of it , especially thinking about the future POS which will be implemented in early 2017. And in my opinion that would damage ethereum project more than 100 ethereum failed projects. The money losts arent even 10% as important as thief owning anywhere between 3.5% and 15% of ethereum tokens.
Forgot about this, but its an argument aswell : in a real world vote referendum, you can cancel your vote by doing whatever, voting both options, draw hitler face on the paper or whatever is crosing your mind. But here you cannot do that, so its either that, or that. If you dont vote, whatever you think in the back of your head will remain there, since you have the chance to express your option and you dont. The same for uk people who didnt vote for brexit, most likely there are more people who regret not voting because of the result. But it was their option and they ll live with it.
Conclusion : We live in an imperfect world, and we will continue to do so untill we either set the world on fire or an alien invasion will exterminate us. Untill then, we use what we have and deal with it, otherwise it would be anarchy since everyone has an opinion slightly different than the others and we would never agree about anything.

It seems the process isn't democratic after all.

If you go on ethpool and ethermine, you will see that (still) most votes are for the soft-fork (Non voters don't really have voice in this, like you said). Looking at the Ethereum chain, both pools don't enforce the softfork anymore.

So now they go against what people voted for. How is this a democratic decision? Shouldn't they have to live with the results of the vote?

There is a problem with the soft fork problem. So it is not to be implemented for now.

https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/06/28/security-alert-dos-vulnerability-in-the-soft-fork/

I hope there will be a good solution to the soft fork problem. We just have two weeks time left to do that.

[BitUsher]

Here is a little gem of hypocrisy Tone dug up . Feast your eyes on this 180degree pivot!

[Bemerand]

Here is a little gem of hypocrisy Tone dug up . Feast your eyes on this 180degree pivot!

Why do you post the same thing in many places?

[Hueristic]

Here is a little gem of hypocrisy Tone dug up . Feast your eyes on this 180degree pivot!

Why do you post the same thing in many places?

Maybe because to get to a large audience, this is the only place I have seen it.

[BitUsher]

Here is a little gem of hypocrisy Tone dug up . Feast your eyes on this 180degree pivot!

Why do you post the same thing in many places?

Settle down buttercup, I posted the image only 2 times and wrote different copy in each

[GreenBits]

I see that the reality of the situation is reflected in the price now, I feel people that are actually tracking this asset are psychologically exhausted with the DAOwar fiasco. I don't know what was propping the price up to this point, but I think we will start to see s gradual downtrend now.