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No forks ever!
In this world, word is very weak. You need to have some physical powers to be influential. In this case, you need to have mining power. Satoshi's design is flawed because it permits miners to vote (within the realm of profitability). I am working on a fix to that. I explained more.
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June 22, 2016, 08:41:16 PM |
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No forks ever!
In this world, word is very weak. You need to have some physical powers to be influential. In this case, you need to have mining power. Satoshi's design is flawed because it permits miners to vote (within the realm of profitability). I am working on a fix to that. I explained more. Are you going to make a coin or just propose a solution? Do you think it will be implented in a existing coin?
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Vitalik should roll back the whole blockchain. That's the only way ether can be saved.
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All the people who support a ETH fork are the biggest ETH/DAO bagholders. As soon as the fork is finalized and their funds "returned" they will dump all their coins.
They are a plague upon the altcoin scene. They don't care about ETH/DAO, they invested to pump/dump it. There is no way those ETH Whales are going to stay in the game, they want their money back and want out.
The ETH Bailout soon to come with bring ETH's destruction, not make it stronger. The people who want the rollback are not true ETH believers, but it's destroyers. The current ETH price and DAO price are being stabilized by gamblers and whales.
Beware what you wish for ETH miners/users.
Everyone else, grab your popcorn and watch the false prophet get dragged through the streets.
Read an article today that said at the time of the MtGox BTC heist had the attackers been known or the address the millions in Bitcoin disappeared to a fork would have been considered. Apparently over 6 propel committed suicide over MtGox. Now imagine the blood on your BTC Spoetniktard goon shill hands if the ETH community doesn't do what it votes for.
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June 23, 2016, 03:19:17 AM |
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All the people who support a ETH fork are the biggest ETH/DAO bagholders. As soon as the fork is finalized and their funds "returned" they will dump all their coins.
They are a plague upon the altcoin scene. They don't care about ETH/DAO, they invested to pump/dump it. There is no way those ETH Whales are going to stay in the game, they want their money back and want out.
The ETH Bailout soon to come with bring ETH's destruction, not make it stronger. The people who want the rollback are not true ETH believers, but it's destroyers. The current ETH price and DAO price are being stabilized by gamblers and whales.
Beware what you wish for ETH miners/users.
Everyone else, grab your popcorn and watch the false prophet get dragged through the streets.
Read an article today that said at the time of the MtGox BTC heist had the attackers been known or the address the millions in Bitcoin disappeared to a fork would have been considered. Apparently over 6 propel committed suicide over MtGox. Now imagine the blood on your BTC Spoetniktard goon shill hands if the ETH community doesn't do what it votes for. I was there when Mt.Gox "went down" due to the so called "malleability issue" and at no time did any Dev ever reasonably consider forking Bitcoin to return those coins. That statement is absolute garbage and a revisionist history designed to justify what the ETH miners and community are about to undertake. You and your fellow voters will soon see what a mistake it was to rollback or fork. No important lesson will be learned here. Instead ETH will perish from a self inflected wound. The ETH rich will vote to slaughter the ETH poor and the blood will be on your hands. Majority vote is to get their money back, so they can dump and get out.
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June 23, 2016, 03:52:23 AM |
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No FORK !
Just shut it down NOW !
EDIT: Mt. Gox fat ass had said publicly that he got hacked.. Later he had his lawyer announce publicly that he found 200000 BTC in his couch on a USB drive.
The Maleability bullshit was a poor excuse..
Just like when Cryptsy cried they were hacked via that IRC exploit + Luckycoin wallet.
AKA: weak cover stories for Owner theft.
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Just want to see what people's opinion is on the matter.
If Ethereum does decide to do a soft fork, then a hard fork to return all investor funds. Then they might as well do this for exactly that purpose and close the platform down right after. Imo, it's better to start from scratch with a better platform minus the security issues, the stigma and the bad rep.
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June 23, 2016, 04:15:42 AM |
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All the people who support a ETH fork are the biggest ETH/DAO bagholders. As soon as the fork is finalized and their funds "returned" they will dump all their coins.
They are a plague upon the altcoin scene. They don't care about ETH/DAO, they invested to pump/dump it. There is no way those ETH Whales are going to stay in the game, they want their money back and want out.
The ETH Bailout soon to come with bring ETH's destruction, not make it stronger. The people who want the rollback are not true ETH believers, but it's destroyers. The current ETH price and DAO price are being stabilized by gamblers and whales.
Beware what you wish for ETH miners/users.
Everyone else, grab your popcorn and watch the false prophet get dragged through the streets.
Read an article today that said at the time of the MtGox BTC heist had the attackers been known or the address the millions in Bitcoin disappeared to a fork would have been considered. Apparently over 6 propel committed suicide over MtGox. Now imagine the blood on your BTC Spoetniktard goon shill hands if the ETH community doesn't do what it votes for. I was there when Mt.Gox "went down" due to the so called "malleability issue" and at no time did any Dev ever reasonably consider forking Bitcoin to return those coins. That statement is absolute garbage and a revisionist history designed to justify what the ETH miners and community are about to undertake. You and your fellow voters will soon see what a mistake it was to rollback or fork. No important lesson will be learned here. Instead ETH will perish from a self inflected wound. The ETH rich will vote to slaughter the ETH poor and the blood will be on your hands. Majority vote is to get their money back, so they can dump and get out. It wasn't considered because it wasn't possible as the BTC vanished. https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ethereum-fork-it/
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June 23, 2016, 04:41:23 AM |
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Oh darn. I was hoping Ethereum was going to forego the forks and let the DAO wars begin. I was looking forward to this magical ICO token moon machine go out in a blaze of glory. It could have got really interesting. The white hats and black hats could have bloated the blockchain with millions of splitDAO calls, transferring ETH all over the place. This would have been the pissing contest to end all pissing contests. Guess I'll save the popcorn for the next Game of Thrones episode.
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June 23, 2016, 04:57:31 AM |
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All the people who support a ETH fork are the biggest ETH/DAO bagholders. As soon as the fork is finalized and their funds "returned" they will dump all their coins.
They are a plague upon the altcoin scene. They don't care about ETH/DAO, they invested to pump/dump it. There is no way those ETH Whales are going to stay in the game, they want their money back and want out.
The ETH Bailout soon to come with bring ETH's destruction, not make it stronger. The people who want the rollback are not true ETH believers, but it's destroyers. The current ETH price and DAO price are being stabilized by gamblers and whales.
Beware what you wish for ETH miners/users.
Everyone else, grab your popcorn and watch the false prophet get dragged through the streets.
Damn fucking right ! Which means this is all rather predictable as usual.
EDIT : Just want to see what people's opinion is on the matter.
If Ethereum does decide to do a soft fork, then a hard fork to return all investor funds. Then they might as well do this for exactly that purpose and close the platform down right after. Imo, it's better to start from scratch with a better platform minus the security issues, the stigma and the bad rep.THIS ! And next time launch it fairly with out the scammy ICO bullshit they pulled.
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June 23, 2016, 05:08:48 AM |
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it would be very interesting to list all the consequences (technical, financial, social and even philosophical) of a fork. I'm not tech savvy but if someone can do it?
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June 23, 2016, 07:51:44 AM |
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Just want to see what people's opinion is on the matter.
If Ethereum does decide to do a soft fork, then a hard fork to return all investor funds. Then they might as well do this for exactly that purpose and close the platform down right after. Imo, it's better to start from scratch with a better platform minus the security issues, the stigma and the bad rep. The soft fork is almost certain. I am not sure about the hard fork. There is no voting about hard fork at the moment.
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June 23, 2016, 09:56:36 AM |
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There is NO WAY they will not do the hard-fork, if they do the soft-fork.
The soft fork simply stops the attacker getting the funds..
The hard fork gets ALL the ETH back.
the first without the second is pure spite.
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this whole thing is so disappointing..
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June 23, 2016, 10:00:22 AM |
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There is NO WAY they will not do the hard-fork, if they do the soft-fork.
The soft fork simply stops the attacker getting the funds..
The hard fork gets ALL the ETH back.
the first without the second is pure spite.
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this whole thing is so disappointing..
Yeah it's not pure spite attempting the heist in the first place. Maybe the attacker could be made a saint just to please all you BTC Spoetniktard goon shills.
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June 23, 2016, 10:11:56 AM |
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Yeah it's not pure spite attempting the heist in the first place. Maybe the attacker could be made a saint just to please all you BTC Spoetniktard goon shills.
you may be one of the most disappointing elements of all this. Just facile, short-sighted, narcissistic shit oozing from your every orifice. Grim. .. I hold ETH. I love-d ETH. This is NOT cool. It's ANTI-cool.
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June 23, 2016, 10:59:26 AM |
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Yeah it's not pure spite attempting the heist in the first place. Maybe the attacker could be made a saint just to please all you BTC Spoetniktard goon shills.
you may be one of the most disappointing elements of all this. Just facile, short-sighted, narcissistic shit oozing from your every orifice. Grim. .. I hold ETH. I love-d ETH. This is NOT cool. It's ANTI-cool. Yeah and what makes you and your opinion sacrosanct? I'll roll with the democratic majority and take the winnings or losses on the chin.
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June 23, 2016, 11:04:12 AM |
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..democratic majority..
Is that what 'Do whatever Vitalik says we should do' is now ? ..and take the winnings or losses on the chin.
That's EXACTLY what you're not doing.
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June 23, 2016, 11:10:51 AM |
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..democratic majority..
Is that what 'Do whatever Vitalik says we should do' is now ? ..and take the winnings or losses on the chin.
That's EXACTLY what you're not doing. I notice you didn't answer my question. Just strawman misdirection FUD from you. If you can't debate then don't expect others to debate with you. Goodbye.
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All the people who support a ETH fork are the biggest ETH/DAO bagholders. As soon as the fork is finalized and their funds "returned" they will dump all their coins.
They are a plague upon the altcoin scene. They don't care about ETH/DAO, they invested to pump/dump it. There is no way those ETH Whales are going to stay in the game, they want their money back and want out.
The ETH Bailout soon to come with bring ETH's destruction, not make it stronger. The people who want the rollback are not true ETH believers, but it's destroyers. The current ETH price and DAO price are being stabilized by gamblers and whales.
Beware what you wish for ETH miners/users.
Everyone else, grab your popcorn and watch the false prophet get dragged through the streets.
Damn fucking right ! Which means this is all rather predictable as usual.
EDIT : Just want to see what people's opinion is on the matter.
If Ethereum does decide to do a soft fork, then a hard fork to return all investor funds. Then they might as well do this for exactly that purpose and close the platform down right after. Imo, it's better to start from scratch with a better platform minus the security issues, the stigma and the bad rep.THIS ! And next time launch it fairly with out the scammy ICO bullshit they pulled. I will buy some... @0.00000010 This is just a wake up call, just like the BTC price after 2013
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June 23, 2016, 11:25:42 AM |
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..Goodbye.
LOL.. What makes my opinion sacrosanct ? It isn't. But maybe the promise of an "Unstoppable", Immutable, Trust-Less, Contract Code execution platform does not mean what I thought it meant. Seems pretty "stoppable" to me now. And mutable. And we have to trust Vitalik doesn't disagree with us (or he'll 'fork' us). And.. oh forget it. If you don't get it, you don't get it.
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