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June 19, 2016, 03:39:41 AM
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Judging by this, the maverick Mircea Popescu seems to be taking credit:

http://trilema.com/2016/to-the-dao-and-the-ethereum-community-fuck-you/

I didn't verify the Keccak hash (which is apparently why others thought the hash didn't match because they were assuming SHA256?). If it matches, then I would expect MP could be the one to pull this off. He has also told the SEC go to fuck themselves. You all may remember AnonyMint once debated MP on BCT about his cavalier attitude towards the SEC.

So this changes the complexity of Vitalik's decision process, because he appears convinced that he can win a suit in tort law. He appears to be arguing that splitting was an intended feature and they he did not violate the intent of the contract. Given that The DAO's only purpose was a power vacuum game theory of who could capture the pooled ETH, I am thinking maybe he and his lawyers are correct.

So much drama today.
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June 19, 2016, 05:47:45 AM
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Good one Andreas, can't be bothered getting on a plane to go and (maybe) pow-wow with Satoshi, but putting ya self 'out there' for the ''attacker'' ... only in crypto haha

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June 19, 2016, 05:50:18 AM
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The address has been traced to known dev. I'll update when I can.

I hope so because your track record for telling the truth is a little lacking  Cheesy

And why make the topic if you have NO info to post ?

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June 19, 2016, 05:54:29 AM
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COURT ?

You people are fucking retarded beyond comprehension !

What part of Decentralized crypto currency free market don't you idiots fucktards understand ?

So let me get this straight..

YOU WANT NO LAWS.. until you get hacked  

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idiots

ahhh whaaah boo hoo waaah call the cops someoen stoeld ma cryptoz ahahahhahahahahah

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June 19, 2016, 07:06:10 AM
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COURT ?

You people are fucking retarded beyond comprehension !

What part of Decentralized crypto currency free market don't you idiots fucktards understand ?

So let me get this straight..

YOU WANT NO LAWS.. until you get hacked  

AHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAH AAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHA HAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHH AHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAH HAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHA HHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAH AHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAA HAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHA AHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAH AAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHA HAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHH AHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAH HAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHA

idiots

ahhh whaaah boo hoo waaah call the cops someoen stoeld ma cryptoz ahahahhahahahahah




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June 19, 2016, 07:31:30 AM
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Just read the attacker conversation with a reporter and i am happy then he explains the attack as a test glitch and defends himself so nicely.

Quentson (AQ): Hi, I was about to write an article on your alleged pastebin. How can you show you are actually the DAO hacker?

Daoattacker (DA): (1) i’m not a hacker, nothing was hacked.

(2) i’m not “the attacker”, I’m intermediary, this is a team project

(3) the point of this pastebin is open dialog; soon we will have a smart contract to reward miners who oppose the soft fork and mines the transaction. 1 million ether + 100 btc will be shared with miners.

Full Interview Transcript: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/exclusive-full-interview-transcript-alleged-dao-attacker/

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June 19, 2016, 07:36:03 AM
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the hacker did not hack.

they ran a program, on a system to run un stopable programs.

Now devs DAO want to change the rules/contact/terms of DAO to steal the eths.

Hackers don't hack, they run software in unexpected way
Thiefs don't steal, they borrow
Rapist don't rape, they just have accidental sex
Killers don't kill, they just pacify other people

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June 19, 2016, 07:45:10 AM
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The "attacker" can sue a shit in my opinion. eth is from switzerland and not from ´murica.
If it was legal, why he dont show his identiy or any proof ?
The whole court story is bullshit, if you belive this, your IQ must be lower than lil wayne's pants.

This is all trolling bullshit.
Eth is not dead, and will recover.
I dont sell it, nope Tongue

the hacker did not hack.

they ran a program, on a system to run un stopable programs.

Now devs DAO want to change the rules/contact/terms of DAO to steal the eths.

Hackers don't hack, they run software in unexpected way
Thiefs don't steal, they borrow
Rapist don't rape, they just have accidental sex
Killers don't kill, they just pacify other people

 Grin


hahaha Cheesy
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June 19, 2016, 10:27:12 AM
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I think the OP is full of shit - You state the Attacker is Identified  - You do not give any source and you are promoting a Pyramid scheme in your signature.

GTFO

I am with you on this.
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June 19, 2016, 12:21:49 PM
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If the "attacker" exposes him/herself and he/she is in the US as he said in the open letter, I think he could be sent to prison for the hacking with bad intent.

MP is the person who drained the DAO. Did you read my post above where I wrote to verify the Keccak hash?

MP is the antithesis of Craig Wright. He does not bullshit. MP is the one who did this. He is surely capable of it.

Trivial factoid: MP and rpietila were enemies since before 2013. And in 2013, MP sent AnonyMint a private message offering collaboration.

AnonyMint has grown to respect MP as a maverick peer, and in some respects in awe of MP. MP's support of Blockstream could end up causing a conflict between MP and AnonyMint at some point in the near future.  Grin Titans will do battle. Prepare your cupboard supply of popcorn.

I am confused by MP's support of Blockstream, because I thought he was for small blocks and was willing to kill XT to defend the status quo (i.e. Classic):

DA: The people behind ethereum are deceptive, for example everyone with a clue (Adam Back, Gregory Maxwell) knows that there is 0% chance for “CASPER” proof of stake to work, but yet they advertise it.

Note TPTB_need_war was the first person pointing out that Casper wouldn't work in the Ethereum Paradox thread and also on Reddit. Yet MP gives Blockstream credit for TPTB's research.  Angry
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June 19, 2016, 12:33:31 PM
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If the "attacker" exposes him/herself and he/she is in the US as he said in the open letter, I think he could be sent to prison for the hacking with bad intent.

MP is the person who drained the DAO. Did you read my post above where I wrote to verify the Keccak hash?

MP is the antithesis of Craig Wright. He does not bullshit. MP is the one who did this. He is surely capable of it.

Trivial factoid: MP and rpietila were enemies since before 2013. And in 2013, MP sent AnonyMint a private message offering collaboration.

AnonyMint has grown to respect MP as a maverick peer, and in some respects in awe of MP. MP's support of Blockstream could end up causing a conflict between MP and AnonyMint at some point in the near future.  Grin Titans will do battle. Prepare your cupboard supply of popcorn.

I am confused by MP's support of Blockstream, because I thought he was for small blocks and was willing to kill XT to defend the status quo (i.e. Classic):

DA: The people behind ethereum are deceptive, for example everyone with a clue (Adam Back, Gregory Maxwell) knows that there is 0% chance for “CASPER” proof of stake to work, but yet they advertise it.

Note TPTB_need_war was the first person pointing out that Casper wouldn't work in the Ethereum Paradox thread and also on Reddit. Yet MP gives Blockstream credit for TPTB's research.  Angry

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June 19, 2016, 12:36:59 PM
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Where did you hear the news from? Also, what is (s)he being charged with? Post a link or it's just a made up rumor.

Ironically in another thread there were people saying the attacker was planning to sue the ethereum and DAO devs if they try to change the code to stop him claiming the coins he has. The DAO rules say the code is the final decider in a legal dispute, and the code's rules allowed him to attack the DAO, so it could be argued the hack was legal.

===== BEGIN SIGNED MESSAGE =====
To the DAO and the Ethereum community,
 
I have carefully examined the code of The DAO and decided to participate after finding the feature where splitting is rewarded with additional ether. I have made use of this feature and have rightfully claimed 3,641,694 ether, and would like to thank the DAO for this reward. It is my understanding that the DAO code contains this feature to promote decentralization and encourage the creation of "child DAOs".
 
I am disappointed by those who are characterizing the use of this intentional feature as "theft". I am making use of this explicitly coded feature as per the smart contract terms and my law firm has advised me that my action is fully compliant with United States criminal and tort law. For reference please review the terms of the DAO:
 
"The terms of The DAO Creation are set forth in the smart contract code existing on the Ethereum blockchain at 0xbb9bc244d798123fde783fcc1c72d3bb8c189413. Nothing in this explanation of terms or in any other document or communication may modify or add any additional obligations or guarantees beyond those set forth in The DAO’s code. Any and all explanatory terms or descriptions are merely offered for educational purposes and do not supercede or modify the express terms of The DAO’s code set forth on the blockchain; to the extent you believe there to be any conflict or discrepancy between the descriptions offered here and the functionality of The DAO’s code at 0xbb9bc244d798123fde783fcc1c72d3bb8c189413, The DAO’s code controls and sets forth all terms of The DAO Creation."
 
A soft or hard fork would amount to seizure of my legitimate and rightful ether, claimed legally through the terms of a smart contract. Such fork would permanently and irrevocably ruin all confidence in not only Ethereum but also the in the field of smart contracts and blockchain technology. Many large Ethereum holders will dump their ether, and developers, researchers, and companies will leave Ethereum. Make no mistake: any fork, soft or hard, will further damage Ethereum and destroy its reputation and appeal.
 
I reserve all rights to take any and all legal action against any accomplices of illegitimate theft, freezing, or seizure of my legitimate ether, and am actively working with my law firm. Those accomplices will be receiving Cease and Desist notices in the mail shortly.
 
I hope this event becomes an valuable learning experience for the Ethereum community and wish you all the best of luck.
 
Yours truly,
"The Attacker"
===== END SIGNED MESSAGE =====
 
Message Hash (Keccak): 0xaf9e302a664122389d17ee0fa4394d0c24c33236143c1f26faed97ebbd017d0e
Signature: 0x5f91152a2382b4acfdbfe8ad3c6c8cde45f73f6147d39b072c81637fe81006061603908f692dc 15a1b6ead217785cf5e07fb496708d129645f3370a28922136a32

http://pastebin.com/CcGUBgDG

That message should be taken with a grain of salt. The verification signature was badly muffed, it's not even verifiable. Absolutely no proof that this message did come from the hacker. Either way, there is definitely a controversy as to whether or not he should be held accountable or even have his earnings rolled back via a fork.

Actually good news either way.  The best case is they settle out of court.. The attacker gets a small piece and dao gets most returned.

If it was simply a moron write up of code it can fall under typographical error.

kind of like when a car dealer   runs an advert for a $19.99 car vs a $19,999.99 car.

Dao will claim the wording was a typo and was not intended to wipe out the coin's value due to dilution.

If it goes to court all funds will freeze and many years will pass before settlement.

So this was not an attack
 this was not a hack
this was an error in the dao wording
the dev that did this has been found out


all to do over nothing.
they will do a settlement or fight it in court.

it will not affect eth mining .

a smart fix is give the guy 4 to 6% of the error shake hands and move on.

so lets see what they do.

so if they agree and hat they shake hands, they will move on then. lol
those who dumped their DAOs are going to really regret for life. They should really buy back now.

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June 19, 2016, 12:40:55 PM
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Looks like the guy is allegedly bribing miners to refuse any sort of fork. If that's the case, they won't be able to get anything from him outside of court. This is bad news for Ethereum. Terrible, even. Regardless of the outcome, Ethereum is going to be hurt in the longrun, and DAO is as good as dead.

Good riddance, along with the whole ethereum cocept it's one of the dumbest ideas every dreamt up by yet another bunch of talentless, greedy opportunists.
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June 19, 2016, 12:54:09 PM
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Looks like the guy is allegedly bribing miners to refuse any sort of fork. If that's the case, they won't be able to get anything from him outside of court. This is bad news for Ethereum. Terrible, even. Regardless of the outcome, Ethereum is going to be hurt in the longrun, and DAO is as good as dead.

Good riddance, along with the whole ethereum cocept it's one of the dumbest ideas every dreamt up by yet another bunch of talentless, greedy opportunists.

If he gives most of the coins to the miners, it will incentivise the many people to become the miners in the next few weeks.

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June 19, 2016, 01:22:44 PM
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So is that interview legitimate? If so that guy gives zero fucks and is a straight internet gangster. Not my type person, but I kinda admire him.

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June 19, 2016, 01:25:17 PM
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So is that interview legitimate? If so that guy gives zero fucks and is a straight internet gangster. Not my type person, but I kinda admire him.

Mircea Popescu (MP) has a core constitution which is that every person should be responsible for themself. And he originally was adamant that he would attack any Bitcoin fork that raised the block size. He also appears to be against shitcoins and he is a Bitcoin maximalist. He sees himself as a defender of anarchism. He also is motivated by profit. I definitely agree with his anarchism/self-responsibility constitution, but if he is supporting Blockstream's Rube Goldberg complexity future-clusterfuck Troika of SegWit, Side-chains, and Lightning Networks then he and I are going to disagree!

GTFO of ETH at $12 while you still can! The deadcat bounce is topping and lower, lower we will go. Because MP is not a bullshitter. And he has very significant BTC resources > 50,000 BTC.
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June 19, 2016, 01:28:45 PM
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So is that interview legitimate? If so that guy gives zero fucks and is a straight internet gangster. Not my type person, but I kinda admire him.

Mircea Popescu (MP) has a core constitution which is that every person should be responsible for themself. And he originally was adamant that he would attack any Bitcoin fork that raised the block size. He also appears to be against shitcoins and he is a Bitcoin maximalist. He sees himself as a defender of anarchism. He also is motivated by profit. I definitely agree with his constitution!

He can attack the Ethereum and the DAO.  But the Ethereum can also counter attack. This will never end in the future.
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June 19, 2016, 02:00:09 PM
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So is that interview legitimate? If so that guy gives zero fucks and is a straight internet gangster. Not my type person, but I kinda admire him.

Mircea Popescu (MP) has a core constitution which is that every person should be responsible for themself. And he originally was adamant that he would attack any Bitcoin fork that raised the block size. He also appears to be trying to stay relevant.

FTFY.
I like Mircea. As an interesting anomaly. He's bright & eloquent, which is to say his psychopathologies are curiously well-defended. He used to be witty, too, but didn't we all?
Dollars to doughnuts he's trolling/taking credit for others' work.
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June 19, 2016, 02:03:32 PM
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So is that interview legitimate? If so that guy gives zero fucks and is a straight internet gangster. Not my type person, but I kinda admire him.

Mircea Popescu (MP) has a core constitution which is that every person should be responsible for themself. And he originally was adamant that he would attack any Bitcoin fork that raised the block size. He also appears to be trying to stay relevant.

FTFY.
I like Mircea. As an interesting anomaly. He's bright & eloquent, which is to say his psychopathologies are curiously well-defended. He used to be witty, too, but didn't we all?
Dollars to doughnuts he's trolling/taking credit for others' work.

I share your eloquent observations to some extent (psychopathologies, lol, don't we all), but versus the naive Vitalik, I think MP will be victorious:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1516039.msg15279128#msg15279128

Not intended to offend you (i.e. hope you are not British), but you also appear to be suffering from Ego is for little people. And/or I am suffering from confirmation-bias and/or idolization complex.

I agree his originality of technology is no where near someone like Vitalik or even myself. He is not a creator. But he is much better fit to this role of spanking Ethereum with a vulnerability and shorting than I am. I am not set up for that sort of effort.

If Vitalik fights back with blacklisting, then MP will have to elevate this to another level because that is destroying the fungibility of crypto-currency, which is something MP is adamantly against. And MP has very significant resources at his disposal. I estimate in the 100,000s of BTC, but I wrote 50,000 to be conservative in my guess.

OTOH, MP's grandstanding and aggrandizing ego might be an indicator that he really has a small dick complex and doesn't really have the wealth and power I presume he has.

Preparing my popcorn, because we will over the next 26 days be able to falsify this.
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June 19, 2016, 02:23:39 PM
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The "attacker" can sue a shit in my opinion. eth is from switzerland and not from ´murica.
If it was legal, why he dont show his identiy or any proof ?
The whole court story is bullshit, if you belive this, your IQ must be lower than lil wayne's pants.

This is all trolling bullshit.
Eth is not dead, and will recover.
I dont sell it, nope Tongue

the hacker did not hack.

they ran a program, on a system to run un stopable programs.

Now devs DAO want to change the rules/contact/terms of DAO to steal the eths.

Hackers don't hack, they run software in unexpected way
Thiefs don't steal, they borrow
Rapist don't rape, they just have accidental sex
Killers don't kill, they just pacify other people

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ETH is worse garbage than any other actual useful currency or service.
and yet every other thing that was hacked died afterwards..
..so why the fuck in gods name would some scammy retarded gay bullshit called ETHEREUM
be any different ?

Flap flap flap your moronic little dick-holsters all you want your fate is sealed Investards.

Reality and truth is right there for all to see.
And as usual you are all 100% predictable.
Once more price dropping occurs you idiots will get scared & run too.
It's not like any of you have a use for Ethereum or DAO.. you are all just in it for profit.
Which means i can predict your pathetic bullshit far in advance.

For every big profit braggart there 3x the losers who lost their shirt.
Understand where profit comes from yet Investards ?
It's pretty simple math really.

Frankly i am tired of trying to fix stupid.. drown rats in your sinking scam ship.
Don't come looking for sympathy from me scammy vulture profiteers.
You made your down-syndrome greedy mETH head bed.. so sleep in it !

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