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June 23, 2016, 04:00:54 PM
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Hello, I opened the topic for buying bitcoin with neteller. I had a 35 EUR in my neteller account. The user who the username is truckerJoe (I know himself from the forum, I not any relation with  him before) said that he could sell bitcoin to me equivalente 30 EUR. I accepted his offer and I sent the money (34.5 EUR) in the morning via neteller with my bitcoin wallet address in the explanation section in the neteller sending money form. But now he has not replied to my messages and he have not sent the bitcoin yet.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1523991.msg15330685#msg15330685

My Topic:

http://imgur.com/oU19YXk

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Our conversations:

http://imgur.com/GEpZj7J

http://imgur.com/3JCL28z

http://imgur.com/6ZZe6r2

http://imgur.com/5dzE6ej

The NETELLER payment information:

http://imgur.com/1TNzJ5q
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June 23, 2016, 04:24:47 PM
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Is there no one else to help me? What should I do now?
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June 23, 2016, 04:26:28 PM
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I haven't read the material, but this is not the right forum.
This https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 is the right forum

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June 23, 2016, 04:31:03 PM
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You are hiding his email from both screenshots so we can't now for sure that you really sent the email to the email he provided.

I don't mean to be rude or anything , I'm sorry because you lost your money but it's kinda your own If you didn't use an escrow , don't you think?
All we can do is leave negative trust on his profile , he won't get banned and you probably won't get your money back. What you can do now is contact Neteller and explain the situation , hopefully they can chargeback the money.

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June 23, 2016, 04:36:10 PM
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You are hiding his email from both screenshots so we can't now for sure that you really sent the email to the email he provided.

I don't mean to be rude or anything , I'm sorry because you lost your money but it's kinda your own If you didn't use an escrow , don't you think?
All we can do is leave negative trust on his profile , he won't get banned and you probably won't get your money back. What you can do now is contact Neteller and explain the situation , hopefully they can chargeback the money.
I can send the the originals of the screenshots but I prefer to save the privacy until what the moderators will give advice about this issue. OK, I will contact with neteller. Thanks.
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June 23, 2016, 04:40:14 PM
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You are hiding his email from both screenshots so we can't now for sure that you really sent the email to the email he provided.

I don't mean to be rude or anything , I'm sorry because you lost your money but it's kinda your own If you didn't use an escrow , don't you think?
All we can do is leave negative trust on his profile , he won't get banned and you probably won't get your money back. What you can do now is contact Neteller and explain the situation , hopefully they can chargeback the money.
I can send the the originals of the screenshots but I prefer to save the privacy until what the moderators will give advice about this issue. OK, I will contact with neteller. Thanks.

I personally wouldn't care much about a scammer privacy. also , and as I said ... Moderators won't post anything most likely because scammers on Bitcointalk don't get banned or anything, they just receive negative trust .
Also post the scammer profile on the OP : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=592396 so people can access easily to him.

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June 23, 2016, 04:42:16 PM
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Tucker Joe once said to.me that he is not gonna send because is is much older than me and neither he accpt escrow that time only I understood that he is a scammer.


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June 23, 2016, 04:49:19 PM
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You are hiding his email from both screenshots so we can't now for sure that you really sent the email to the email he provided.

I don't mean to be rude or anything , I'm sorry because you lost your money but it's kinda your own If you didn't use an escrow , don't you think?
All we can do is leave negative trust on his profile , he won't get banned and you probably won't get your money back. What you can do now is contact Neteller and explain the situation , hopefully they can chargeback the money.
I can send the the originals of the screenshots but I prefer to save the privacy until what the moderators will give advice about this issue. OK, I will contact with neteller. Thanks.

I personally wouldn't care much about a scammer privacy. also , and as I said ... Moderators won't post anything most likely because scammers on Bitcointalk don't get banned or anything, they just receive negative trust .
Also post the scammer profile on the OP : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=592396 so people can access easily to him.
I am very bad to hear about this. I think the moderation shoul do more than a negative trust. I contacted with Neteller, I hope that I can get my money back...
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June 23, 2016, 08:50:22 PM
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You are hiding his email from both screenshots so we can't now for sure that you really sent the email to the email he provided.

I don't mean to be rude or anything , I'm sorry because you lost your money but it's kinda your own If you didn't use an escrow , don't you think?
All we can do is leave negative trust on his profile , he won't get banned and you probably won't get your money back. What you can do now is contact Neteller and explain the situation , hopefully they can chargeback the money.
I can send the the originals of the screenshots but I prefer to save the privacy until what the moderators will give advice about this issue. OK, I will contact with neteller. Thanks.

I personally wouldn't care much about a scammer privacy. also , and as I said ... Moderators won't post anything most likely because scammers on Bitcointalk don't get banned or anything, they just receive negative trust .
Also post the scammer profile on the OP : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=592396 so people can access easily to him.
I am very bad to hear about this. I think the moderation shoul do more than a negative trust. I contacted with Neteller, I hope that I can get my money back...

When you do get a hold of neteller I hope you include all the images places like on this thread showing the transaction.

And this thread, but knowing any money transmitter services its highly unlikely.. but its worth a try and attempt getting a super good customer service person until you do. Which might improve your resolution, but just use escrow next time.


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June 24, 2016, 07:55:15 AM
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You are hiding his email from both screenshots so we can't now for sure that you really sent the email to the email he provided.

I don't mean to be rude or anything , I'm sorry because you lost your money but it's kinda your own If you didn't use an escrow , don't you think?
All we can do is leave negative trust on his profile , he won't get banned and you probably won't get your money back. What you can do now is contact Neteller and explain the situation , hopefully they can chargeback the money.
I can send the the originals of the screenshots but I prefer to save the privacy until what the moderators will give advice about this issue. OK, I will contact with neteller. Thanks.

I personally wouldn't care much about a scammer privacy. also , and as I said ... Moderators won't post anything most likely because scammers on Bitcointalk don't get banned or anything, they just receive negative trust .
Also post the scammer profile on the OP : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=592396 so people can access easily to him.
I am very bad to hear about this. I think the moderation shoul do more than a negative trust. I contacted with Neteller, I hope that I can get my money back...

When you do get a hold of neteller I hope you include all the images places like on this thread showing the transaction.

And this thread, but knowing any money transmitter services its highly unlikely.. but its worth a try and attempt getting a super good customer service person until you do. Which might improve your resolution, but just use escrow next time.


I sent an email to Neteller yesterday, but there is no answer yet. I wait...
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June 24, 2016, 09:11:40 AM
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It's better to call Neteller or request them to call you if you don't have credit on your phone, that way things goes faster.

Hopefully someone from DefaultTrust will leave scammer negative trust since he still have neutral trust : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=592396

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June 24, 2016, 09:45:24 AM
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You made a mistake by putting a BTC address in the Neteller transaction message, they suspend accounts that have relation to buying and selling Bitcoin nas they consider it money laundering. i was going to make a n offer, but glad I didn't as you may have caused me problems with my Neteller account.
Now to truckerjoe, why didn't you use escrow ?
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June 24, 2016, 09:47:00 AM
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You made a mistake by putting a BTC address in the Neteller transaction message, they suspend accounts that have relation to buying and selling Bitcoin nas they consider it money laundering. i was going to make a n offer, but glad I didn't as you may have caused me problems with my Neteller account.
Now to truckerjoe, why didn't you use escrow ?

If they consider it as money laundering then why do they allow depositing with it ? (Picture is outdated , now they charge 5% as fees)


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June 24, 2016, 09:58:19 AM
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I think if you deposit bitcoins and then later try to withdraw it on your bank etc it's considered as money laundry.

A lot places does not accept this, Example virwox or other well know websites.

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June 24, 2016, 10:08:01 AM
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This user already had negative (untrusted) feedback against them for a similar scam.  You should have read his feedback, and used an escrow.

Let me know if he pays you back and I will remove the negative trust.

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June 24, 2016, 10:19:33 AM
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This user already had negative (untrusted) feedback against them for a similar scam.  You should have read his feedback, and used an escrow.

Let me know if he pays you back and I will remove the negative trust.
I marked him as a scammer, so now he is seen negative trust. I think he will never my money back.
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June 24, 2016, 10:39:01 AM
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You made a mistake by putting a BTC address in the Neteller transaction message, they suspend accounts that have relation to buying and selling Bitcoin nas they consider it money laundering. i was going to make a n offer, but glad I didn't as you may have caused me problems with my Neteller account.
Now to truckerjoe, why didn't you use escrow ?

If they consider it as money laundering then why do they allow depositing with it ? (Picture is outdated , now they charge 5% as fees)



I know that, and I fund my account using Bitcoin, but here take a look:



https://www.neteller.com/en/policies/terms-of-use
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June 24, 2016, 10:41:51 AM
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OK. I contacted the neteller by calling and they said that they can not give my money back because it is my responsibility. They only give me a gold advice that I should not be transfer money to people who I do not know! Dear moderators, you can close the topic!

I will close my neteller account.

And my friends, I thank you all for your assistance...
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June 24, 2016, 12:22:37 PM
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OK. I contacted the neteller by calling and they said that they can not give my money back because it is my responsibility. They only give me a gold advice that I should not be transfer money to people who I do not know! Dear moderators, you can close the topic!

I will close my neteller account.

And my friends, I thank you all for your assistance...

You can close it youeself on the left side you will find the option to lock it.

Next time you know only use escrow and not trust anyone on the internet!

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June 24, 2016, 10:53:14 PM
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Send them a mail, tell in the mail that it's not you who sent the money to the person or that you paid for a service but you didn't get it ( don't mention bitcoin ), you will get your money back and his account will be closed  Wink
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