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June 25, 2016, 05:55:59 AM |
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According to what I have learned on our Social Studies, Muslims are ordered to kill a Christian for them to have their Nirvana or the state of perfect happiness when they die.
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^^^ While this is true, Muslims are required to give Christians a time of grace, to repent of their Christianity, and become Muslim. This, of course, is if the Christians aren't actively against Islam. If the Christians are actively against Islam, then kill the infidels. The time of grace is up to individual Muslims with regard to the Christians that they are active with on a daily basis. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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June 25, 2016, 03:21:31 PM |
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According to what I have learned on our Social Studies
According to what I have learned the intervention of the USA in Iraq is intended to remove the mass destruction weapons BUT when I take a closer look at it i didn't see anything from this lie (if you know what i mean) Btw what you said could apply with ISIS (idiots state...)
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June 25, 2016, 03:30:36 PM |
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According to what I have learned on our Social Studies
According to what I have learned the intervention of the USA in Iraq is intended to remove the mass destruction weapons BUT when I take a closer look at it i didn't see anything from this lie (if you know what i mean) Btw what you said could apply with ISIS (idiots state...) Gosh, or it could apply to terrorists of every Muslim variety blowing up any numbers of things, right? And it could apply to Saudis cutting off hands and feet? Or to stoning women to death? Gee, it could apply to all kinds of Muslim idiots states, couldn't it?
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June 25, 2016, 03:47:28 PM |
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According to what I have learned on our Social Studies, Muslims are ordered to kill a Christian for them to have their Nirvana or the state of perfect happiness when they die.
The bible also orders Christians to murder Muslims... what is your point? If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter or the wife you embrace or your friend who is as your own soul entices you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which neither you nor your fathers have known, some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery
2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the Lord thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the Lord thy God, in transgressing his covenant, 3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshiped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and inquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel: 5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. 6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death. 7 The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.
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June 25, 2016, 03:48:59 PM |
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According to what I have learned on our Social Studies, Muslims are ordered to kill a Christian for them to have their Nirvana or the state of perfect happiness when they die.
The bible also orders Christians to murder Muslims... what is your point? If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter or the wife you embrace or your friend who is as your own soul entices you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which neither you nor your fathers have known, some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery
This order is for the Jews, and particularly for the Jews of Old Testament times. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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June 25, 2016, 03:54:06 PM |
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According to what I have learned on our Social Studies, Muslims are ordered to kill a Christian for them to have their Nirvana or the state of perfect happiness when they die.
The bible also orders Christians to murder Muslims... what is your point? If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter or the wife you embrace or your friend who is as your own soul entices you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which neither you nor your fathers have known, some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery
2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the Lord thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the Lord thy God, in transgressing his covenant, 3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshiped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and inquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel: 5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. 6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death. 7 The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.
This order is for the Jews, and particularly for the Jews of Old Testament times. Your god sounds more flippity floppity on issues than Donald Trump... What kind of a god likes slavery, genocide, murdering Muslims, etc.... then a few years later changes his mind? That is not a book written by a god... sorry... gods do not change their mind... they are eternal
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June 25, 2016, 04:00:42 PM |
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According to what I have learned on our Social Studies, Muslims are ordered to kill a Christian for them to have their Nirvana or the state of perfect happiness when they die.
The bible also orders Christians to murder Muslims... what is your point? If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter or the wife you embrace or your friend who is as your own soul entices you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which neither you nor your fathers have known, some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery
2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the Lord thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the Lord thy God, in transgressing his covenant, 3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshiped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and inquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel: 5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. 6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death. 7 The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.
This order is for the Jews, and particularly for the Jews of Old Testament times. Your god sounds more flippity floppity on issues than Donald Trump... What kind of a god likes slavery, genocide, murdering Muslims, etc.... then a few years later changes his mind? That is not a book written by a god... sorry... gods do not change their mind... they are eternal The answer is, a God who wants salvation for people, people who can only be saved by believing in God. Get rid of the unbelievers. There were two ways for the Jews of the O.T. times. However, there is only one way for Christians of today. Convert them. God will take care of the rest of it, personally. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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June 25, 2016, 04:50:12 PM |
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According to what I have learned on our Social Studies, Muslims are ordered to kill a Christian for them to have their Nirvana or the state of perfect happiness when they die.
Actually what it seems like is muslims kill muslims
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June 25, 2016, 04:58:14 PM |
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According to what I have learned on our Social Studies, Muslims are ordered to kill a Christian for them to have their Nirvana or the state of perfect happiness when they die.
The bible also orders Christians to murder Muslims... what is your point? Be realistic. The argument was not "The Koran orders Muslims to kill...." Your response is actually an attempt to mis frame the argument, thus creating moral equivalence. But if Christians aren't murdering Muslims, and Muslims are murdering Christians, then reframing is a poor way of lying, isn't it?
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June 25, 2016, 07:07:23 PM |
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Another debate because of religion and beliefs of others. I do not know about Muslim's religious practice but killing just because of different beliefs is absurd. I have seen many Muslim selling in our local market and yet they are okay with the Christians. Maybe it is just happened because of the insanity of some Muslim people like the ISIS, boko haram, and the abu sayyaf.
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June 26, 2016, 01:58:47 AM |
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Another debate because of religion and beliefs of others. ......
Wow, that is almost self defining. Let's see. Another bunch of guys shouting "Allah Akbar" go on a killing spree... And you say... "Another debate because of religion and beliefs of others..." All these zealots want is the publicity. That's the purpose of their killing sprees. It's been that way since Yassir Arafat in the 1970s. They want "another debate." Over and over. You see? It's really not at all about religion and the beliefs of one versus another.
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June 26, 2016, 04:33:10 AM |
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It is the same with almost all business minded religions (such as Islam, Christianity, and Judaism). Their main aim is to increase the number of adherents (by uncontrolled population explosion, rape of non-believer women, forcible conversion of infidels, kidnapping of infidel children.etc) and to reduce the number of non-believers.
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June 26, 2016, 07:24:18 AM |
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According to what I have learned on our Social Studies, Muslims are ordered to kill a Christian for them to have their Nirvana or the state of perfect happiness when they die.
i think social studies taught islamic rules to you wrongly because verses of the koran never indicate that a muslim person can kill a chiristian because of his religion. for me, some forces want to give islam a bad name .. islam is religion of peace not a religion of terrorism.
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June 26, 2016, 12:37:10 PM |
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According to what I have learned on our Social Studies, Muslims are ordered to kill a Christian for them to have their Nirvana or the state of perfect happiness when they die.
i think social studies taught islamic rules to you wrongly because verses of the koran never indicate that a muslim person can kill a chiristian because of his religion. for me, some forces want to give islam a bad name .. islam is religion of peace not a religion of terrorism. I think I am agree, even though I am not a muslim, but I have a muslim friend, and as far as i know he never mention that a muslim must kill a christian in order to enter Nirvana, Islam taught people to be merciful and peace, that is the real Islam teaching
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June 26, 2016, 05:09:57 PM |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_VerseBut when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war);
There are various translations of the word Pagan... some translate as idolators, or even polytheists... but the gist is a religion that is not Islam Muslims also like to murder apostates... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ApostasyThere are multiple verses in Qur'an that condemn apostasy, but none which prescribe any punishments for apostasy and multiple Hadiths include statements that support the death penalty for apostasy
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June 26, 2016, 06:07:13 PM |
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Killing is prohibited by any religion so i think the real problem is the nature of humans and perhaps is more peaceful world if there were no religion.
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June 26, 2016, 09:33:32 PM |
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Killing is prohibited by any religion so i think the real problem is the nature of humans and perhaps is more peaceful world if there were no religion.
If there were no religion, there would be no people as people. That might be a good topic - a different kind of "people." But people as they are, are religious creatures. There is always going to be religion... in the case of atheists and others, even religion of non-religion. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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June 26, 2016, 10:09:47 PM |
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So by the sounds of it everybody of every religion is compelled to kill an alternate believer? I smell a business opportunity here. They need some type of religious murder dating site to link up people so they can kill each other at the same time.
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June 27, 2016, 08:17:23 AM |
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According to what I have learned on our Social Studies
According to what I have learned the intervention of the USA in Iraq is intended to remove the mass destruction weapons BUT when I take a closer look at it i didn't see anything from this lie (if you know what i mean) Btw what you said could apply with ISIS (idiots state...) Gosh, or it could apply to terrorists of every Muslim variety blowing up any numbers of things, right? And it could apply to Saudis cutting off hands and feet? Or to stoning women to death? Gee, it could apply to all kinds of Muslim idiots states, couldn't it? The thing is completely out of the context as none of the religions in the world ever would such things ever to thier disciples. Few rotten potatoes destroys the whole basket, similarly few idiots may take the good things from thier religion in such a negative way that creates a mayhem in the society as per my perception islam's teaching are very genuine and I'm damn sure that allah would never have said such things for his whole life.
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