The less you own, the more you have

[helloeverybody]

Ive always fancied living minimalistic but even then its too expensive to be self sufficient without a bit of capital to say buy a house and i would still need to work a full weeks work just to get by so its kind of pointless. If i had enough money saved that io could just switch to a more minimalistic lifestyle and quit work i would though .

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[designerusa]

Minimalism + Bitcoin = happiness

I have been living this lifestyle for about 4 years. Everything I own can fit in a carry-on and a backpack (other than a box of childhood stuff at my mother's house). My expenses are about 10% of my monthly income having downsized to a small 35 sqm apartment. I bought a cheap/reliable car, paid in cash (my criteria was something that would last 2 years, good gas mileage and I wouldn't mind walking away from).

By doing this I can focus on the things in life that truly make me happy, last year I traveled to one new country a month. I don't worry about money like I used to. I will probably be able to quit my job in the next few years and do something I enjoy instead of just working for the money. And it has allowed me to accumulate bitcoins. Continuing this lifestyle will allow me to see the world and be independent/free instead of having to spend my life protecting my stuff.

Bitcoin does a lot to help with this lifestyle as I would not be able to be as mobile with gold, moving place to place carrying large amounts of gold across borders while I can carry my private key easily anywhere. I can always find a localbitcoins seller in whatever country I go to to get local currency.


The Less You Own, The More You Have (TED talk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyKmpyYy14k

perfectly agreed.. your lifestyle is my biggest dream . i am crazy about minimalist lifestyle but i cant dare to make it happen. The more you own the more you are unhappy .. go for your best decision..

[Jet Cash]

I don't think it's the volume ( or even value) of ownership that is the problem. It's the type of ownership, the risks, and the need for management that matters. I think one of the reasons so many people voted for remaining in the destrructive EU was concern for house prices. House prices are not determined by the EU, but by bankers and government poliucy. At the moment they are massively over valued in most of the world. The worry about loss of capital distorts judgement. Living in a van gets rid of this, and removes the costs of property ownership. Owning more than one property makes it worse, as you are in constant fear of break-ins and squatters if the property is unoccupied.

[kryptqnick]

That sounds to me as some sort of sophism. Like the more you have cheeze, the less you have cheese because of its holes. And this one creates illusion that a way to be in prosperity is negation of prosperity at all. When by common sense the only way to have property is to have it already. The more you own, the more you have. Like A is A, obviously.

[BlueStackz]

I think you on to something.  I have noticed the same thing.  The more you own the less freedom you have.

Less is more indeed. Less money, the more you have time to worry about how to maintain your bankroll. Very true how everything really has a price to pay.

I don't know but what I observe from homeless people. The less they have the more they know what's the people of a person being empty.

It is like a philosophical sentence which doesn't interest many people. Our society has programmed our mind to seek for materialistic life.

Wealth is linked to success therefore being rich is the only way to happy life. This is the concept we are grown up into. But many rich people live a stressful unfulfilled life. they may seem prosperous but aren't happy. So there should be balance in life. The less you own more freedom you have. You have time to connect with people.

[freshman777]

Ive always fancied living minimalistic but even then its too expensive to be self sufficient without a bit of capital to say buy a house and i would still need to work a full weeks work just to get by so its kind of pointless. If i had enough money saved that io could just switch to a more minimalistic lifestyle and quit work i would though .

Buying a house is not living minimalistic. You basically sign up to be a bank's slave for a number of years. Even if you're rich enough to buy a house for cash, it will still be a burden. You can't easily move to another country, you must maintain it, sell it, the real estate market can go against you, etc.

[Spendulus]

Minimalism + Bitcoin = happiness

I have been living this lifestyle for about 4 years. Everything I own can fit in a carry-on and a backpack (other than a box of childhood stuff at my mother's house). My expenses are about 10% of my monthly income ....

perfectly agreed.. your lifestyle is my biggest dream . i am crazy about minimalist lifestyle but i cant dare to make it happen. The more you own the more you are unhappy .. go for your best decision..

I agree completely with both of you.  Just give me 90% of all your money and stuff, and learn to live on the minimal amount left.  You will be very happy I assure you. 

[Racey]

Minimalism + Bitcoin = happiness

I have been living this lifestyle for about 4 years. Everything I own can fit in a carry-on and a backpack (other than a box of childhood stuff at my mother's house). My expenses are about 10% of my monthly income ....

perfectly agreed.. your lifestyle is my biggest dream . i am crazy about minimalist lifestyle but i cant dare to make it happen. The more you own the more you are unhappy .. go for your best decision..

I agree completely with both of you.  Just give me 90% of all your money and stuff, and learn to live on the minimal amount left.  You will be very happy I assure you. 

I agree with Spendulus, I have virtually nothing, great views of the welsh mountains, a flourishing river right along side of me, birds twittering early mornings, watching the Buick swans as they come in to rest, some of the best natured parks, its all beautiful, I only wish I had some money to enjoy life as it is, not life as you dream about, I have that around me right now with my children.

I have been on the road (more gutter), and its not very nice at all, some people think the grass is greener, when its not so different to where you are.
Been there done that, don't like it.

But go as you wish, and enjoy, if you really want to do something without fully leaving it behind.
Go visit Mt Shasta and explore the surroundings, that is something I always wanted to do, its a place of mystery, and hey you could find Jimmy Hoffa 

[European Central Bank]

by the sounds of it the op has no money problems at all. he's talking about divesting himself of pointless crap.

i could very happily never settle in one place ever again. before i set off on that odyssey i'd make sure i'd never have to resort to selling my ass at the docks to feed myself.

[xhomerx10]

Minimalism + Bitcoin = happiness

I have been living this lifestyle for about 4 years. Everything I own can fit in a carry-on and a backpack (other than a box of childhood stuff at my mother's house). My expenses are about 10% of my monthly income having downsized to a small 35 sqm apartment. I bought a cheap/reliable car, paid in cash (my criteria was something that would last 2 years, good gas mileage and I wouldn't mind walking away from).

By doing this I can focus on the things in life that truly make me happy, last year I traveled to one new country a month. I don't worry about money like I used to. I will probably be able to quit my job in the next few years and do something I enjoy instead of just working for the money. And it has allowed me to accumulate bitcoins. Continuing this lifestyle will allow me to see the world and be independent/free instead of having to spend my life protecting my stuff.

Bitcoin does a lot to help with this lifestyle as I would not be able to be as mobile with gold, moving place to place carrying large amounts of gold across borders while I can carry my private key easily anywhere. I can always find a localbitcoins seller in whatever country I go to to get local currency.


The Less You Own, The More You Have (TED talk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyKmpyYy14k

 That's awesome if it works for you.  I can understand how it might be a desirable way to live and at the same time I wonder why you haven't considered whether a family would fit in that backpack?  I used to live similarly to the way you describe - not so much a conscious effort; I simply hated the idea of monthly payments and debt hanging over me.  I wouldn't say it made me happy, it just made life more simple.  Suddenly, I met someone and everything changed.  Now I have to work, I have some debt (quite manageable) and even a couple of monthly payments (mostly utilities but still I will never pay for television!).   I have never been happier and I cannot describe the feeling a young child of yours will give you as they grow and learn nor the feeling of loving and being loved.  I realize family isn't for everyone but I never though it was for me either... +bitcoin

[helloeverybody]

Ive always fancied living minimalistic but even then its too expensive to be self sufficient without a bit of capital to say buy a house and i would still need to work a full weeks work just to get by so its kind of pointless. If i had enough money saved that io could just switch to a more minimalistic lifestyle and quit work i would though .

Buying a house is not living minimalistic. You basically sign up to be a bank's slave for a number of years. Even if you're rich enough to buy a house for cash, it will still be a burden. You can't easily move to another country, you must maintain it, sell it, the real estate market can go against you, etc.

Indeed but what are the options,  my family can't really live in  a tent and its not really the travelling part that would draw me to it,  more just not having to continue with the rat race from 8 till 5 everyday.

[BADecker]

Ive always fancied living minimalistic but even then its too expensive to be self sufficient without a bit of capital to say buy a house and i would still need to work a full weeks work just to get by so its kind of pointless. If i had enough money saved that io could just switch to a more minimalistic lifestyle and quit work i would though .

Buying a house is not living minimalistic. You basically sign up to be a bank's slave for a number of years. Even if you're rich enough to buy a house for cash, it will still be a burden. You can't easily move to another country, you must maintain it, sell it, the real estate market can go against you, etc.

Indeed but what are the options,  my family can't really live in  a tent and its not really the travelling part that would draw me to it,  more just not having to continue with the rat race from 8 till 5 everyday.

How about placing everything you own in trust, and control it rather than own it.

Do you remember the Ted Kennedy/Mary Jo Kopechne incident? Look at Wikipedia at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Jo_Kopechne for a refresher:

On July 18, 1969, Kopechne attended a party on Chappaquiddick Island, off the coast of Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts. The celebration was in honor of the dedicated work of the Boiler Room Girls, and was the fourth such reunion of the Robert F. Kennedy campaign workers. Robert's brother Ted Kennedy was there, whom Kopechne did not know well. Kopechne reportedly left the party at 11:15 p.m. with Ted, after he — according to his own account — offered to drive her to catch the last ferry back to Edgartown, where she was staying. She did not tell her close friends at the party that she was leaving, and she left her purse and keys behind. Kennedy drove the 1967 Oldsmobile Delmont 88 off a narrow, unlit bridge, which was without guardrails and was not on the route to Edgartown. The Oldsmobile landed in Poucha Pond and overturned in the water; Kennedy extricated himself from the vehicle and survived, but Kopechne did not and died eight days shy of her twenty-ninth birthday.

Kennedy failed to report the incident to the authorities until the car and Kopechne's body were discovered the next morning. Kopechne's parents said that they learned of their daughter's death from Kennedy himself, before he informed authorities of his involvement. However, they learned Kennedy had been the driver from wire press releases some time later.

The thing that the article doesn't talk about is, Ted Kennedy owned nothing to speak of. He held everything in trust. When Kopechne's parents tried to sue him, all they got was the car, because it was the damaging "thing" that killed their Mary Jo, and it was in a trust all its own. The Kopechnes got the trust and the car. That was it.

[Cyaren]

Minimalism + Bitcoin = happiness

I have been living this lifestyle for about 4 years. Everything I own can fit in a carry-on and a backpack (other than a box of childhood stuff at my mother's house). My expenses are about 10% of my monthly income having downsized to a small 35 sqm apartment. I bought a cheap/reliable car, paid in cash (my criteria was something that would last 2 years, good gas mileage and I wouldn't mind walking away from).


By doing this I can focus on the things in life that truly make me happy, last year I traveled to one new country a month. I don't worry about money like I used to. I will probably be able to quit my job in the next few years and do something I enjoy instead of just working for the money. And it has allowed me to accumulate bitcoins. Continuing this lifestyle will allow me to see the world and be independent/free instead of having to spend my life protecting my stuff.

Bitcoin does a lot to help with this lifestyle as I would not be able to be as mobile with gold, moving place to place carrying large amounts of gold across borders while I can carry my private key easily anywhere. I can always find a localbitcoins seller in whatever country I go to to get local currency.


The Less You Own, The More You Have (TED talk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyKmpyYy14k

Your way of living is really intresting,i have read a lot about this philosophy,but i dont really imagine myself living it.
I love luxury i cant denay it,When i have a lot of money i need to have a shitton of party,booze,recreation etc.
I admire its smart,but just not for me

[Elwar]

That sounds to me as some sort of sophism. Like the more you have cheeze, the less you have cheese because of its holes. And this one creates illusion that a way to be in prosperity is negation of prosperity at all. When by common sense the only way to have property is to have it already. The more you own, the more you have. Like A is A, obviously.

I did not say that the less prosperity you have, the more prosperity you have. The less things you own, the less those things control your life. The more happiness you have.


My mother was a credit counselor. She told me about this doctor couple that came in with debt up to their eyeballs. They owned the expensive house with two new expensive cars and spent money on all of the finer things. When she told them that they can't afford to keep doing that they were shocked because the other doctors had the same lifestyles. She told them that it was very likely that the other doctors were also in debt up to their eyeballs.
If those doctors had instead bought a reasonable house worth maybe a year's salary and paid in cash. Paid for reasonable vehicles with cash. Eat at home more. Then they would have huge salaries with no debt, nothing holding them back from chasing their dreams. Focus on living life instead of working to pay for their stuff.

For me, I'd rather have a large bitcoin wallet than the latest BMW and house on the beach. It opens up my future to so many more possibilities.

[RealityTruth]

Having a relationship with God is all that man needs.

[socks435]

Having a relationship with God is all that man needs.

Not only god we need.. we are also need to be a hard working to help our life to live in this world.
If you really want to live and help your parents better to be a hard worker. no less is you need better to dream high

[traderbit]

This quote is not only for bitcoin but also in real life, the more you have the less you control them, you spend more time on them by managing improving increasing the volume etc. Having less stress can be better for the health.

[CroSany]

For me more i have i have more because if i have more btc i have more $ and i csn buy more things,i can invest more money,i can spend morr money,i fan gamble if i have too much money but if i have less money i as so sad befause i need more money to live better than mow becaude with more money you could have bigger standard life.

[mindrust]

This is what poor people tell to themselves.

I'll stick to that >> "The more you own, the more you have."

We are in a bitcoin forum for fcks sake. Everyone here is after money yet you say "own less have more".

Please....

[RealityTruth]

This is what poor people tell to themselves.

I'll stick to that >> "The more you own, the more you have."

We are in a bitcoin forum for fcks sake. Everyone here is after money yet you say "own less have more".

Please....

Minimalism & bitcoin.