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https://twitter.com/FAILCommunity/status/746737335417581568

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June 29, 2016, 01:52:05 PM
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Apparently,there is a new thread for discussions https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1530257 which is locked as well.Maybe they are updating it ? Too soon to conclude anything.I cross checked their GitHub ,everything seems fine.You're a known FUDIER Spoetnik.

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June 29, 2016, 01:57:36 PM
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Quote from: Jian Jolly on Wavestalk.org
Unlike many other crypto-initiatives, the Waves platform has unique real use cases that prove to be superior to the substitute centralized services of the current time. There might be a lot use cases for it, but let me tell you the most prevalent and featured ones.

First of all, we need to understand the underlying technology. It's asset-to-asset trading. That simple, actually. But the opportunities this feature will bring about is countless and enormous. It means that you will be able to create your own asset (like you can do with Counterparty or Nxt), and trade it against other assets created by others.

Now let's take a look at the real use cases.

1) Fiat integration: If a financial company creates its own asset and says that "I will sell this token for 1 USD and also buy it back at the same price," and comes up with a legal document showing its liability for the convertibility of the asset into real USD, then that asset is the USD-token. Its value is 1 USD, backed by real USD held in the bank account of that financial institution.

Now it means that you can trade any crypto-asset created in the platform against that USD-token. What are those assets in the platform? BTC, for instance, or ETH. So it means there is no need to worry about the reliability and security of the centralized exchanges. Bitfinex, Poloniex, Coinbase etc... In those hackable systems, you store your cryptos in hot wallets, and pay tons of transaction fees. But when you trade in the decentralized exchange of the Waves platform, you will hold your cryptos as well as your fiat in your Waves wallet, and the trading fees are just the network fees of the platform, that is, a few cents.

2) Crowdfunding projects: Think of it like a decentralized Kickstarter. You may issue your own token and sell it against USD in the platform. The positive consequences of such an application is apparent. You don't pay fees to a middleman. Your shares in the crowdfunding project is tradable. So it's like the company gets listed in a stock exchange right in the crowdfunding phase. And you don't have to take into account the price volatility of bitcoin, since you get the money already as USD.

3) International money transfers: That's a straight conclusion of the fiat integration. There will be many gateways in many countries, each issuing their local currency. Now if Alice wants to send 100 USD to Bob, and Bob wants EUR instead of USD, it's easily achievable by buying USD-tokens, converting them in the decentralized exchange to EUR-tokens and then send them to Bob, who will then use the EUR-gateway to get the tokens converted to real fiat and sent to his bank account.

Now this is what disrupts the traditional centralized model most. A platform to be the infrastructure of a wide range of companies which are competitors of Kickstarter, PayPal, and Bitfinex. I hope the long-term potential is obvious here. So why invest in Waves? Because each transaction in the platform will require a transaction fee, which is payable in Wave coins. So the adoption of the platform means the demand for the Wave coins, which should increase its value.

Note that the Waves platform doesn't only serve to the cryptocurrency community, but because of the fiat integration, it aims to be the decentralized network for the non-crypto folks as well.

I hope that counts as an explanation, and I hope you join us!

Best,

Jian


https://wavestalk.org/

https://wavesplatform.slack.com


https://github.com/wavesplatform

https://github.com/wavesplatform/Waves/tree/mainnet

https://github.com/wavesplatform/WavesGUI

https://blog.wavesplatform.com/waves-launch-at-exchanges-and-network-security-ef18ba6efcf6#.u8yz3er27

https://blog.wavesplatform.com/waves-weekly-round-up-5085e329b9ec



Anyone can participate, anyone can buy at or below ICO prices at the moment. It's great!

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June 29, 2016, 02:17:17 PM
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Damn right i am a "known FUDDER"

and you are all Investarded Kidiot Profiteer dregs.

Who obnoxiously support retarded angel investing, crowd funding, pre-sale, ICO, IPO, ITO scams for profit.

There for i have 1,000000000000000000000000000000X the credibility any of you shitheads will EVER have.

WAVES = ICO SCAM

Pyramid Scheme Scam #5,203

..only question is what shitty ass scheme coin token bullshit will you knobs buy into next ?

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June 29, 2016, 02:24:52 PM
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HAHAHA!!! Retarded kids will defend the scam in which they put their money until Satan himself will cry "IT IS SCAM" Smiley

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ANN:

Open-blockchain financial platform. Blockchain for the people.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1530257.msg15401025#msg15401025

my website url = free tokens for you :9
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This HERE IS PROOF From their own WAVES FORUM....
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Sweet right on Chemist.. when is the pre-pre-pre-pre-Sale ?
and when is the topic lock + dump ?
I of course want to make sure i support dump my coins in time.

oh wait.. what is it ?
ahhh never mind i don't care LOL

PROFIT ME NOW !

I got WEED.. Twizzlers/Skittles, Longboards & SkinnyJeans and FlatBrim hats to buy dammit !

I gotta go guys.. i just heard the lunch bell go off Sad
(cya after school business pro's)

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I am writing me fancy ass "white paper" from under the desk so my teacher does not see it.
smart contractz yo ..up in this bitch bruh !



EDIT:
Our leader just gave an impressive ICO presentation.. we gonna be rich dog's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Hahaha. Can't stop laughing at this  Cheesy

ICO TO DA FUCKING MOON BABY !!!  Shocked

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June 29, 2016, 02:42:19 PM
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Sweet right on Chemist.. when is the pre-pre-pre-pre-Sale ?
and when is the topic lock + dump ?
I of course want to make sure i support dump my coins in time.
oh wait.. what is it ?
ahhh never mind i don't care LOL
PROFIT ME NOW !
I got WEED.. Twizzlers/Skittles, Longboards & SkinnyJeans and FlatBrim hats to buy dammit !
I gotta go guys.. i just heard the lunch bell go off Sad
(cya after school business pro's)
PS:
I am writing me fancy ass "white paper" from under the desk so my teacher does not see it.
smart contractz yo ..up in this bitch bruh !

The price on the markets is at ico price or slightly below. Anyone can buy and participate in this great open source project. Spoetnik aren't you a coder? If you really are I know that you'd love the Scorex framework and what is being coded there right now.


p.s. regarding the smart contracts I read the following (https://blog.wavesplatform.com/faq-7664c1d1b1bf#.rb4n3hwiv):
Q: What is the difference between Waves and Ethereum?
A: We are just the opposite to Ethereum probably. What they do is develop Bitcoin scripting, do everything using contracts, it’s very fundamental but makes certain things very complicated. We took another road, where things are simpler, very easy to add all functionality you need using plug-ins, don’t have to code complicated contracts. Also our focus is on mass adoption, we’re specifically target two markets : fiat transfers on blockchain and crowdfunding on blockchain. They are very ripe for disruption, and we’ll be offering a product for a very general audience, basically the main end-user client is just a plugin you can install from Chrome or FF store

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Sweet right on Chemist.. when is the pre-pre-pre-pre-Sale ?
and when is the topic lock + dump ?
I of course want to make sure i support dump my coins in time.
oh wait.. what is it ?
ahhh never mind i don't care LOL
PROFIT ME NOW !
I got WEED.. Twizzlers/Skittles, Longboards & SkinnyJeans and FlatBrim hats to buy dammit !
I gotta go guys.. i just heard the lunch bell go off Sad
(cya after school business pro's)
PS:
I am writing me fancy ass "white paper" from under the desk so my teacher does not see it.
smart contractz yo ..up in this bitch bruh !

The price on the markets is at ico price or slightly below. Anyone can buy and participate in this great open source project. Spoetnik aren't you a coder? If you really are I know that you'd love the Scorex framework and what is being coded there right now.


p.s. regarding the smart contracts I read the following (https://blog.wavesplatform.com/faq-7664c1d1b1bf#.rb4n3hwiv):
Q: What is the difference between Waves and Ethereum?
A: We are just the opposite to Ethereum probably. What they do is develop Bitcoin scripting, do everything using contracts, it’s very fundamental but makes certain things very complicated. We took another road, where things are simpler, very easy to add all functionality you need using plug-ins, don’t have to code complicated contracts. Also our focus is on mass adoption, we’re specifically target two markets : fiat transfers on blockchain and crowdfunding on blockchain. They are very ripe for disruption, and we’ll be offering a product for a very general audience, basically the main end-user client is just a plugin you can install from Chrome or FF store

Translation, scorex isn't production ready and might never be. Yet millions were given to a team to develop this. A team quite different from the hoskinson team who invented it. Did hoskinson team ask for millions? Nope.

One can only conclude that this is a money grab
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Spoetnik   Grin my FUD nigga

Keepin' it real dawg Wink

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No bloody joke.. ICO.. hype.. dumping.. topic locked.

Keep buying scammy ICO scheme tokens boys.. that is smart  Cheesy

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Not surprisingly, as is usually the case ICO)
Especially when during his handed out also bounty )

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Not surprisingly, as is usually the case ICO)
Especially when during his handed out also bounty )

that bounty.... shame.
waves team definitely didnt know what they were doing, and still got 30k bitcoin.

i should stop working and launch my scam ico coin.

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So much trolling and fud in here. They made announcement of making own community and also will announce on here and start a new topic once they decide on when to do so. Love it when trolls come out to say hello and spread so much fud and do not know what is going on other than to troll hard and know nothing.
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So much trolling and fud in here. They made announcement of making own community and also will announce on here and start a new topic once they decide on when to do so. Love it when trolls come out to say hello and spread so much fud and do not know what is going on other than to troll hard and know nothing.

You've been here long enough to know that most ICOs don't work out for the better. In fact, most alts in general don't work out for the better. You can scream FUD all that you want, but you know very well that it's always better to err on the side of caution. I'm glad for you that the Waves team has gained your CONfidence. You do realize that the WAVES investors right now are in a totally vulnerable position when the only node processing transactions, is owned by the WAVES team. People are concerned about a 51% attack, but at the moment, the WAVES team has 100% of the control. I doubt Bittrex or the other exchanges that have access to the full node are going to come to the rescue if the WAVES team decides to do whatever they want with the blockchain.
Also, on the thread they locked, I think it is interesting that the OP used to have the address for the escrow account. They managed to edit that out before locking the thread. Here is the original escrow account address for those interested. https://blockchain.info/address/3DWBSSAue32YS8PcW2gLs6m52BCCv3UgDA
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 #19

So much trolling and fud in here. They made announcement of making own community and also will announce on here and start a new topic once they decide on when to do so. Love it when trolls come out to say hello and spread so much fud and do not know what is going on other than to troll hard and know nothing.

You've been here long enough to know that most ICOs don't work out for the better. In fact, most alts in general don't work out for the better. You can scream FUD all that you want, but you know very well that it's always better to err on the side of caution. I'm glad for you that the Waves team has gained your CONfidence. You do realize that the WAVES investors right now are in a totally vulnerable position when the only node processing transactions, is owned by the WAVES team. People are concerned about a 51% attack, but at the moment, the WAVES team has 100% of the control. I doubt Bittrex or the other exchanges that have access to the full node are going to come to the rescue if the WAVES team decides to do whatever they want with the blockchain.
Also, on the thread they locked, I think it is interesting that the OP used to have the address for the escrow account. They managed to edit that out before locking the thread. Here is the original escrow account address for those interested. https://blockchain.info/address/3DWBSSAue32YS8PcW2gLs6m52BCCv3UgDA

Well, let me think about it

(ICO address)13891 BTC
https://blockchain.info/address/3DWBSSAue32YS8PcW2gLs6m52BCCv3UgDA
+
10000 BTC
https://blockchain.info/address/35fe2CM2zbMeSfhRjpjW8ikTJcZj8NooFD
+
According to escrow agreement the funds have to be transferred from the escrow address.
https://blockchain.info/address/35fe2CM2zbMeSfhRjpjW8ikTJcZj8NooFD official Waves cold wallet
5 k is withdrawn for current and upcoming development and marketing costs, good moment to sell BTC. 1 k out of it is spent on WAVES buy-back.

At the moment spent only 1k btc for buy back. (≈3M Waves)

Of course, full report will be provided about how the funds were spent.

Smiley


 
 
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June 30, 2016, 12:23:27 AM
 #20


Well, let me think about it

(ICO address)13891 BTC
https://blockchain.info/address/3DWBSSAue32YS8PcW2gLs6m52BCCv3UgDA
+
10000 BTC
https://blockchain.info/address/35fe2CM2zbMeSfhRjpjW8ikTJcZj8NooFD
+
According to escrow agreement the funds have to be transferred from the escrow address.
https://blockchain.info/address/35fe2CM2zbMeSfhRjpjW8ikTJcZj8NooFD official Waves cold wallet
5 k is withdrawn for current and upcoming development and marketing costs, good moment to sell BTC. 1 k out of it is spent on WAVES buy-back.

At the moment spent only 1k btc for buy back. (≈3M Waves)

Of course, full report will be provided about how the funds were spent.

Smiley

Your figures are outdated. They moved 2500 BTC to 3BPrbYMyzgb6BZHHKFrsETBwtYzLqoXcgr, today. Also, I don't think that your investors originally interpreted that the buy support would be below the ICO price. Cheesy Is that the WAVES team moving some of their 9 million WAVES tokens to Bittrex to suppress the price down to their lowball buyback walls? Cheesy
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