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July 11, 2016, 12:42:49 AM
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what is written in the bible ,, it is done, and who is Pilate compared to Jesus, I know that Pilate did not know what they doing, they didn't known what God's plan to humanity, even we.

It's very sad fact that Pilate didn't want to kill Jesus and tried everything in his power to avoid it.
Even his wife send him message and ask him not to kill Jesus.
Pilate even offered to Jews to choose between Jesus and thief, who will be liberated and who will bi killed, with hope that Jews will choose Jesus.
It didn't happen because Jew's priests was very afraid of Jesus and really pushed very hard Pi9late to kill him, even manipulated people in Jerusalem to demand Jesus's death.
If all people wanted his death, what Jesus could do?
Save his life but escape from Israel and forget his mission?
His only choice was to sacrifice his life and continue his mission from spiritual world, and bring spiritual salvation top believers.
 


You don't get my point... If pilate believed the miracles to be true, not a single Jews or all of them together could oppose Pilate. For him those locals were barbarians unable to understand civilization... This is the key aspect of my point. So if Pilate was proof positive of a miracle he would have bring this guy alive, and if it meant killing and or enslaving everyone that opposed his will, so be it, without a sorry. However as HIS reputation was on the line he could not bring an imposter or a fake back home. This would have had worst consquences for him than to exterminate everything single beings in those occupied territories.

Jesus did magical tricks and illusions, not miracles.
I think exactly the same,that Jesus whas just a smart man who know what to say and when do it,making tricks  and illusions:
that was the reason the bible was created,everybody thought that he is really a son of god cause he can make impossible things... but in modern days nobody says that a magician is a child of god lol

No. This is not true. How can a mere magician cause such a stirring in the hearts and minds of people that Christianity is over a billion people after 2,000 years for it to be destroyed?

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you still use Roman letters... When a powerful structured empire decide to adopt a faith as its official religion everything changes. No divine acts necessary. Stoicism is very close to most christan values... Understand the legal context at the time and you will see how this religion was perceived as necessary at the time of its implementation.

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July 11, 2016, 04:18:35 AM
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Jesus did magical tricks and illusions, not miracles.
I think exactly the same,that Jesus whas just a smart man who know what to say and when do it,making tricks  and illusions:
that was the reason the bible was created,everybody thought that he is really a son of god cause he can make impossible things... but in modern days nobody says that a magician is a child of god lol

No. This is not true. How can a mere magician cause such a stirring in the hearts and minds of people that Christianity is over a billion people after 2,000 years for it to be destroyed?

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you still use Roman letters...
I am not required to.


When a powerful structured empire decide to adopt a faith as its official religion everything changes. No divine acts necessary.
Empires decide nothing. People make decisions.


Stoicism is very close to most christan values...
Christian people have many values. Not all of them are the same. Not all of them are Christian all the time.

True Christian values are what the Bible teaches... God's love for fallen mankind, and His method of salvation for us. Obedience to commandments is a method that allows His salvation to work through the nations.


Understand the legal context at the time and you will see how this religion was perceived as necessary at the time of its implementation.

Yes, but it was first perceived as necessary by God. Then, God working through governmental people, has brought it to the world.

Almost every nation in the world has had the opportunity to accept it, now. There are only a few tribes left in the jungles, that have not had the chance to hear about it (Christianity) yet, because of their remoteness. Once they have received the opportunity, there will be nothing left that has to be fulfilled. Then the end will come.

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July 11, 2016, 06:11:22 AM
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Quote from: BADecker link=topic=1530973.msg15542938#msg1554293
Almost every nation in the world has had the opportunity to accept it, now. There are only a few tribes left in the jungles, that have not had the chance to hear about it (Christianity) yet, because of their remoteness. Once they have received the opportunity, there will be nothing left that has to be fulfilled. Then the end will come.

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Tribe people have their own God, they wouldn't be interested in your silly bible one.
Spoiler alert: Jesus isn't returning.

The religious elite have taken advantage of you and spoonfed you lies. Wake up!


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September 19, 2016, 09:22:35 AM
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Historically, it is proved that Jesus is not no miracle worker . Normal personality, which set the highest power . His miracles - false and framed. There are many facts that he was the son of the king , and that he was married and more. But many Vatican hides .
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September 19, 2016, 04:52:17 PM
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Pilate's wife warned him not to have anything to do with Jesus' prosecution because she had a bad dream about Jesus. So Pilate washed his hands in front of the Jews to show he has no hand in Jesus' death.

I think both Pilate and Mrs Pilate had not heard about Jesus because he only worked for three years. Pilate was questioning Jesus which means he didn't know who Jesus was, if he did, he would not have been questioning him. You don't ask people you know to introduce themselves all over again.

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