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June 29, 2016, 02:27:46 PM
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Bringing this kid to Rome... At all costs and it ain't a few judeans barbarians who could have stop Pilate... If you doubt what I just wrote it's because you don't understand anything. What does the Quran reports on those miracles... Good question...

Ps if you wanna see a miracle watch a bird fly and remeber it came in an egg ;-) like the alligator! (And the fish too).

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June 29, 2016, 02:55:38 PM
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Jesus did magical tricks and illusions, not miracles.

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June 29, 2016, 03:16:36 PM
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Bringing this kid to Rome... At all costs and it ain't a few judeans barbarians who could have stop Pilate... If you doubt what I just wrote it's because you don't understand anything. What does the Quran reports on those miracles... Good question...

Ps if you wanna see a miracle watch a bird fly and remeber it came in an egg ;-) like the alligator! (And the fish too).

You have first to understand Jesus's mission.
He came to save not himself but all humankind.
So, his goal never was to save only himself.
In fact, his victory was spiritual, not external.
We celebrate his resurrection, not death.

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June 29, 2016, 03:20:50 PM
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Jesus did magical tricks and illusions, not miracles.
It's a pity the Apostles never thought to hire James Randi the way the Pharaoh did when Moses tried to fool him with his conjuring acts; Christianity might never have happened. Cheesy

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June 29, 2016, 03:27:02 PM
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he did not suppress what will happen and he did not planned to hide from those roman soldiers and pilate because it is a part of his mission to die on cross and suffer just to save those sinners including us we are all sinners, admit it .

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June 29, 2016, 03:52:02 PM
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he didn't come to earth to destroy the romans and establish an earthly kingdom, read the damn bible

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June 29, 2016, 05:12:43 PM
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Bringing this kid to Rome... At all costs and it ain't a few judeans barbarians who could have stop Pilate... If you doubt what I just wrote it's because you don't understand anything. What does the Quran reports on those miracles... Good question...

Ps if you wanna see a miracle watch a bird fly and remeber it came in an egg ;-) like the alligator! (And the fish too).

You have first to understand Jesus's mission.
He came to save not himself but all humankind.
So, his goal never was to save only himself.
In fact, his victory was spiritual, not external.
We celebrate his resurrection, not death.

What you don't understand is that the mission of Pilate was fucking clear. Official Manager of Rome in Barabarian country called Judea. now the guy had death and life power on anyone there. And you would make me believe that a guy who could do miracles wouldn't catch his attention? And that bringing him to Rome would be the pinnacle of his career? LoL... Understand the mission of Pilate.

Once you can insert a lie in the mind of a human aka split him from his observation of the Creation of God you can make him believe what ever (included plants are drugs and must be illegal and genetically modified plant are safe and legal) what a joke!

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June 29, 2016, 05:20:10 PM
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Bringing this kid to Rome... At all costs and it ain't a few judeans barbarians who could have stop Pilate... If you doubt what I just wrote it's because you don't understand anything. What does the Quran reports on those miracles... Good question...

Ps if you wanna see a miracle watch a bird fly and remeber it came in an egg ;-) like the alligator! (And the fish too).

You have first to understand Jesus's mission.
He came to save not himself but all humankind.
So, his goal never was to save only himself.
In fact, his victory was spiritual, not external.
We celebrate his resurrection, not death.

What you don't understand is that the mission of Pilate was fucking clear. Official Manager of Rome in Barabarian country called Judea. now the guy had death and life power on anyone there. And you would make me believe that a guy who could do miracles wouldn't catch his attention? And that bringing him to Rome would be the pinnacle of his career? LoL... Understand the mission of Pilate.

Once you can insert a lie in the mind of a human aka split him from his observation of the Creation of God you can make him believe what ever (included plants are drugs and must be illegal and genetically modified plant are safe and legal) what a joke!

However, God, through his prophets and the record in the Old Testament, essentially said that Jesus would be crucified outside of Jerusalem... not in Rome. God's Word stands, not the desires of Roman officials. So, the miracle - the fulfillment of His Word -  was done by God.

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June 29, 2016, 05:23:18 PM
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Bringing this kid to Rome... At all costs and it ain't a few judeans barbarians who could have stop Pilate... If you doubt what I just wrote it's because you don't understand anything. What does the Quran reports on those miracles... Good question...

Ps if you wanna see a miracle watch a bird fly and remeber it came in an egg ;-) like the alligator! (And the fish too).

You have first to understand Jesus's mission.
He came to save not himself but all humankind.
So, his goal never was to save only himself.
In fact, his victory was spiritual, not external.
We celebrate his resurrection, not death.

What you don't understand is that the mission of Pilate was fucking clear. Official Manager of Rome in Barabarian country called Judea. now the guy had death and life power on anyone there. And you would make me believe that a guy who could do miracles wouldn't catch his attention? And that bringing him to Rome would be the pinnacle of his career? LoL... Understand the mission of Pilate.

Once you can insert a lie in the mind of a human aka split him from his observation of the Creation of God you can make him believe what ever (included plants are drugs and must be illegal and genetically modified plant are safe and legal) what a joke!

However, God, through his prophets and the record in the Old Testament, essentially said that Jesus would be crucified outside of Jerusalem... not in Rome. God's Word stands, not the desires of Roman officials. So, the miracle - the fulfillment of His Word -  was done by God.

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Quotes please 0 ref in Torah to my knowledge.

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June 29, 2016, 05:27:57 PM
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Bringing this kid to Rome... At all costs and it ain't a few judeans barbarians who could have stop Pilate... If you doubt what I just wrote it's because you don't understand anything. What does the Quran reports on those miracles... Good question...

Ps if you wanna see a miracle watch a bird fly and remeber it came in an egg ;-) like the alligator! (And the fish too).

You have first to understand Jesus's mission.
He came to save not himself but all humankind.
So, his goal never was to save only himself.
In fact, his victory was spiritual, not external.
We celebrate his resurrection, not death.

What you don't understand is that the mission of Pilate was fucking clear. Official Manager of Rome in Barabarian country called Judea. now the guy had death and life power on anyone there. And you would make me believe that a guy who could do miracles wouldn't catch his attention? And that bringing him to Rome would be the pinnacle of his career? LoL... Understand the mission of Pilate.

Once you can insert a lie in the mind of a human aka split him from his observation of the Creation of God you can make him believe what ever (included plants are drugs and must be illegal and genetically modified plant are safe and legal) what a joke!

However, God, through his prophets and the record in the Old Testament, essentially said that Jesus would be crucified outside of Jerusalem... not in Rome. God's Word stands, not the desires of Roman officials. So, the miracle - the fulfillment of His Word -  was done by God.

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Quotes please 0 ref in Torah to my knowledge.

Torah is first 5 books. Tanakh is Old Testament. Talmud is Hebrew priest corruption done mostly while in captivity in Babylon. Search on Bible prophecy.

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June 29, 2016, 06:54:39 PM
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Okay Torah + tanakh stay... Talmud is terrorism no doubt... So still no quotes...

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June 29, 2016, 07:16:10 PM
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Bringing this kid to Rome... At all costs and it ain't a few judeans barbarians who could have stop Pilate... If you doubt what I just wrote it's because you don't understand anything. What does the Quran reports on those miracles... Good question...

Ps if you wanna see a miracle watch a bird fly and remeber it came in an egg ;-) like the alligator! (And the fish too).
I guess you just don't understand the problem of determinism and irrationality.
Jesus was meant to die. That was the purpose of his life on Earth.
So Pilate couldn't actually do much about it.
And by irrationality I mean that if Pilate was an ideal human being always analyzing his actions and being absolutely rational, maybe, he wouldn't have allowed assasination. But humans can't be always that rational. He could've thought about something else all of a sudden or something and let the things go the way they had to go

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June 29, 2016, 09:01:47 PM
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Bringing this kid to Rome... At all costs and it ain't a few judeans barbarians who could have stop Pilate... If you doubt what I just wrote it's because you don't understand anything. What does the Quran reports on those miracles... Good question...

Ps if you wanna see a miracle watch a bird fly and remeber it came in an egg ;-) like the alligator! (And the fish too).
I guess you just don't understand the problem of determinism and irrationality.
Jesus was meant to die. That was the purpose of his life on Earth.
So Pilate couldn't actually do much about it.
And by irrationality I mean that if Pilate was an ideal human being always analyzing his actions and being absolutely rational, maybe, he wouldn't have allowed assasination. But humans can't be always that rational. He could've thought about something else all of a sudden or something and let the things go the way they had to go

Interestingly most issues advanced by Jesus reflect the big controversies in the evolution of Roman laws... How coincidental;-).

What you don't get is that God is way way way way way infinity awesome that the human collective mind can grasp... One of the smartest human being mr Oppenheimer used a text speaking about God being a thousand sun exploding... Just to give the rational mind an idea. No one can grasp what a sun exploding means. Rational impossiblity what ever lie a scholar of the void will use what ever equation or math... He can't.

So to resume of the guy called Jesus could really do miracle the rabbis would have recognize him as the expected messahia and the Roman manager would have done everything to bring him back to Rome, but arguably if he was capable of miracles Rome couldn't have done anything.

And finally what is the real problem that Christianity has with Islam is that the Quoran is very clear: God is the greatest.

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June 29, 2016, 09:55:46 PM
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Okay Torah + tanakh stay... Talmud is terrorism no doubt... So still no quotes...

No quotes. Find all the quotes you want by searching on Bible prophecy.

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June 29, 2016, 10:04:52 PM
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Bringing this kid to Rome... At all costs and it ain't a few judeans barbarians who could have stop Pilate... If you doubt what I just wrote it's because you don't understand anything. What does the Quran reports on those miracles... Good question...

Ps if you wanna see a miracle watch a bird fly and remeber it came in an egg ;-) like the alligator! (And the fish too).
I guess you just don't understand the problem of determinism and irrationality.
Jesus was meant to die. That was the purpose of his life on Earth.
So Pilate couldn't actually do much about it.
And by irrationality I mean that if Pilate was an ideal human being always analyzing his actions and being absolutely rational, maybe, he wouldn't have allowed assasination. But humans can't be always that rational. He could've thought about something else all of a sudden or something and let the things go the way they had to go

Interestingly most issues advanced by Jesus reflect the big controversies in the evolution of Roman laws... How coincidental;-).

What you don't get is that God is way way way way way infinity awesome that the human collective mind can grasp... One of the smartest human being mr Oppenheimer used a text speaking about God being a thousand sun exploding... Just to give the rational mind an idea. No one can grasp what a sun exploding means. Rational impossiblity what ever lie a scholar of the void will use what ever equation or math... He can't.

So to resume of the guy called Jesus could really do miracle the rabbis would have recognize him as the expected messahia and the Roman manager would have done everything to bring him back to Rome, but arguably if he was capable of miracles Rome couldn't have done anything.
One of the miracles Jesus did was to keep the Romans from taking Him to Rome, if that's what they wanted to do. His rising from the dead is another miracle. His ascension into Heaven right in front of his disciples is another. But all the healing miracles that He did throughout His ministry life (3 years) are evidence that He is God.



And finally what is the real problem that Christianity has with Islam is that the Quoran is very clear: God is the greatest.

God is the Greatest. Christianity says the same thing. God is made up of 3 Individuals that are each all God, are all God when any two of them are together, and are all God when all three of them are together. They are 3 distinct Beings that are each individually the Great God, yet there is only One God.

There are no quotes where it says this as succinctly as I did. You have to piece it together from many places in the Bible.

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June 30, 2016, 04:45:45 AM
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Bringing this kid to Rome... At all costs and it ain't a few judeans barbarians who could have stop Pilate... If you doubt what I just wrote it's because you don't understand anything. What does the Quran reports on those miracles... Good question...

Ps if you wanna see a miracle watch a bird fly and remeber it came in an egg ;-) like the alligator! (And the fish too).
I guess you just don't understand the problem of determinism and irrationality.
Jesus was meant to die. That was the purpose of his life on Earth.
So Pilate couldn't actually do much about it.
And by irrationality I mean that if Pilate was an ideal human being always analyzing his actions and being absolutely rational, maybe, he wouldn't have allowed assasination. But humans can't be always that rational. He could've thought about something else all of a sudden or something and let the things go the way they had to go

Interestingly most issues advanced by Jesus reflect the big controversies in the evolution of Roman laws... How coincidental;-).

What you don't get is that God is way way way way way infinity awesome that the human collective mind can grasp... One of the smartest human being mr Oppenheimer used a text speaking about God being a thousand sun exploding... Just to give the rational mind an idea. No one can grasp what a sun exploding means. Rational impossiblity what ever lie a scholar of the void will use what ever equation or math... He can't.

So to resume of the guy called Jesus could really do miracle the rabbis would have recognize him as the expected messahia and the Roman manager would have done everything to bring him back to Rome, but arguably if he was capable of miracles Rome couldn't have done anything.
One of the miracles Jesus did was to keep the Romans from taking Him to Rome, if that's what they wanted to do. His rising from the dead is another miracle. His ascension into Heaven right in front of his disciples is another. But all the healing miracles that He did throughout His ministry life (3 years) are evidence that He is God.



And finally what is the real problem that Christianity has with Islam is that the Quoran is very clear: God is the greatest.

God is the Greatest. Christianity says the same thing. God is made up of 3 Individuals that are each all God, are all God when any two of them are together, and are all God when all three of them are together. They are 3 distinct Beings that are each individually the Great God, yet there is only One God.

There are no quotes where it says this as succinctly as I did. You have to piece it together from many places in the Bible.

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Pilate: can you do miracles?
Jesus: no
Pilate: okay

The end.

You have no quotes... It looks more and more plausible that in the Quoran there are no miracles by Jesus...

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June 30, 2016, 07:56:50 AM
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Bringing this kid to Rome... At all costs and it ain't a few judeans barbarians who could have stop Pilate... If you doubt what I just wrote it's because you don't understand anything. What does the Quran reports on those miracles... Good question...

Ps if you wanna see a miracle watch a bird fly and remeber it came in an egg ;-) like the alligator! (And the fish too).
I guess you just don't understand the problem of determinism and irrationality.
Jesus was meant to die. That was the purpose of his life on Earth.
So Pilate couldn't actually do much about it.
And by irrationality I mean that if Pilate was an ideal human being always analyzing his actions and being absolutely rational, maybe, he wouldn't have allowed assasination. But humans can't be always that rational. He could've thought about something else all of a sudden or something and let the things go the way they had to go

Interestingly most issues advanced by Jesus reflect the big controversies in the evolution of Roman laws... How coincidental;-).

What you don't get is that God is way way way way way infinity awesome that the human collective mind can grasp... One of the smartest human being mr Oppenheimer used a text speaking about God being a thousand sun exploding... Just to give the rational mind an idea. No one can grasp what a sun exploding means. Rational impossiblity what ever lie a scholar of the void will use what ever equation or math... He can't.

So to resume of the guy called Jesus could really do miracle the rabbis would have recognize him as the expected messahia and the Roman manager would have done everything to bring him back to Rome, but arguably if he was capable of miracles Rome couldn't have done anything.
One of the miracles Jesus did was to keep the Romans from taking Him to Rome, if that's what they wanted to do. His rising from the dead is another miracle. His ascension into Heaven right in front of his disciples is another. But all the healing miracles that He did throughout His ministry life (3 years) are evidence that He is God.



And finally what is the real problem that Christianity has with Islam is that the Quoran is very clear: God is the greatest.

God is the Greatest. Christianity says the same thing. God is made up of 3 Individuals that are each all God, are all God when any two of them are together, and are all God when all three of them are together. They are 3 distinct Beings that are each individually the Great God, yet there is only One God.

There are no quotes where it says this as succinctly as I did. You have to piece it together from many places in the Bible.

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Pilate: can you do miracles?
Jesus: no
Pilate: okay

The end.

You have no quotes... It looks more and more plausible that in the Quoran there are no miracles by Jesus...

The Bible N.T. is full of quotes to the effect that Jesus did miracles. And not only that, but He gave His disciples the ability to do miracles, as well. You can find copies of the Bible in many different languages (including Russian) at http://www.biblegateway.com/.

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June 30, 2016, 11:21:34 AM
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Bringing this kid to Rome... At all costs and it ain't a few judeans barbarians who could have stop Pilate... If you doubt what I just wrote it's because you don't understand anything. What does the Quran reports on those miracles... Good question...

Ps if you wanna see a miracle watch a bird fly and remeber it came in an egg ;-) like the alligator! (And the fish too).

You have first to understand Jesus's mission.
He came to save not himself but all humankind.
So, his goal never was to save only himself.
In fact, his victory was spiritual, not external.
We celebrate his resurrection, not death.
Didn't he already knew that all this thing will going to happen, you know cause he's god-knowing right. So all things like people trying to kill other is already plan by your god.
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June 30, 2016, 02:36:51 PM
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BADecker, you have no quotes. Show me a miracle said Pilate...

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BADecker, you have no quotes. Show me a miracle said Pilate...

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