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March 16, 2013, 04:26:08 PM |
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Hello there ASIC manufacturers, I am doing a blog with microscope photos of various microchips: http://zeptobars.ru/I would be very interested to publish photo of you chip with active link to your website, and this might prove to someone that you actually have custom ASIC. I can confirm whether it looks like actual bitcoin miner, and it's manufacturing technology. All I need from you is send me 1x your custom chip (it might be preproduction/engineering batch). Please drop me a message to michail@zeptobars.ruPS. Why writing here? Because I couldn't find Avalon email contacts, and I am pretty sure all custom ASIC manufacturers are watching this forum :-D We'll get something like this: http://s.zeptobars.ru/MSP430F122.jpg
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March 17, 2013, 12:03:26 AM |
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hahahha, keep dreaming.
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March 17, 2013, 12:07:32 AM |
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Looks like your MCU is rusting, that's dope.
Seriously, why would they do that?
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March 17, 2013, 12:33:12 AM |
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Saw them before, really like these pictures. I found them very interesting. Thanks for your great work. But i also doubt if anyone would be ready to sacrifice the chip now to render a whole avalon hashmodule useless. Maybe later, when better chips will appear in customer hands, or if it would be possible to run smaller modules of avalon hashmodule independently.
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BarsMonster (OP)
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March 19, 2013, 01:06:09 AM |
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But i also doubt if anyone would be ready to sacrifice the chip now to render a whole avalon hashmodule useless.
I don't expect end users to sacrifice chips, I expect manufacturers to do so. This is in their very interest - they'll get some 50-150k people to see an article about them with a link to their website. Pretty good for a cost of spare chip :-)
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March 19, 2013, 01:16:04 AM |
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Another 'tired' chips under microscope site, but it Looks more like they are prepared to 'rip off' the ASIC designs.
"We are also building an in-house ASIC prototyping line based on maskless lithography and silicon-on-sapphire wafers. Our design goal here is quick turnaround time and reduced number of technological steps rather than top performance or high wafer throughput. "
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March 19, 2013, 01:30:40 AM |
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Another 'tired' chips under microscope site, but it Looks more like they are prepared to 'rip off' the ASIC designs.
"We are also building an in-house ASIC prototyping line based on maskless lithography and silicon-on-sapphire wafers. Our design goal here is quick turnaround time and reduced number of technological steps rather than top performance or high wafer throughput. "
^^ This. If I were a bitcoin ASIC designer, I'd send them a photo of my chip, but not a chip.
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March 19, 2013, 06:21:13 PM |
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Another 'tired' chips under microscope site, but it Looks more like they are prepared to 'rip off' the ASIC designs.
"We are also building an in-house ASIC prototyping line based on maskless lithography and silicon-on-sapphire wafers. Our design goal here is quick turnaround time and reduced number of technological steps rather than top performance or high wafer throughput. "
If that were the case then why not just purchase an Avalon/BFL SC Single, reverse engineer the chips and release your product without original designers knowing? I suppose there is something to be said about a brazen approach, if this is indeed what the OP is trying to do, but I'd be surprised.
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March 20, 2013, 01:47:04 AM |
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If that were the case then why not just purchase an Avalon/BFL SC Single, reverse engineer the chips and release your product without original designers knowing? I suppose there is something to be said about a brazen approach, if this is indeed what the OP is trying to do, but I'd be surprised.
"Ripping-off" modern microchips is not economically viable. Bitcoin asic's are especially simple to design with automatic synthesis tools, could take just 1 week of work for skilled team (and then 1 year to manufacture) - so it's just cheaper to redesign. On the other side, reverse engineering chip of such complexity could easily take several human-years. I guess, no one would buy ripped-off ASIC in 2016? :-D
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March 20, 2013, 01:52:03 AM |
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If I were a bitcoin ASIC designer, I'd send them a photo of my chip, but not a chip.
That will work too, if it's actual hi-res microscope photo, and not an EDA screenshot :-)
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April 07, 2013, 03:02:52 AM |
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FYI: I've got contacted from everyone except BFL Can anyone drop them a message?
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April 07, 2013, 03:35:24 AM |
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FYI: I've got contacted from everyone except BFL Can anyone drop them a message? Please tell me this whole thread was a build up to this punchline... that'd be pretty funny. A for Affort
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April 07, 2013, 03:44:50 AM |
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Please tell me this whole thread was a build up to this punchline... that'd be pretty funny. A for Affort Nope, I just need the chips to show their photos to the public, that's it :-)
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April 07, 2013, 06:24:18 AM |
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And can we expect photos?
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April 07, 2013, 07:11:36 AM |
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And can we expect photos?
Yes, they will be published as soon as I receive the chips (which can take 1-2 months, Russian post is not in a hurry).
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