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July 04, 2016, 05:23:35 PM
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My B45 order of S9s has hit the United States.  I've been buying miners from Bitmain since the S3, and this is the first time I've had DHL tell me I owe import taxes. Apparently the message is coming DHL Canada, perhaps because its the 4th of July Holiday here in the USA?   I tried calling Customer Support, which is suppose to be open, but got routed to an old DHL Canadian telephone that told me to update my phone records and call 1-855-DHL-SHIP - very strange.

Anybody else having problems today?

Is it normal to have to pay an import duty, or is this likely some type of screwup because DHL Canada appears to be dealing with things today (and Canadians always pay an import duty).


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July 04, 2016, 05:25:46 PM
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My B45 order of S9s has hit the United States.  I've been buying miners from Bitmain since the S3, and this is the first time I've had DHL tell me I owe import taxes. Apparently the message is coming DHL Canada, perhaps because its the 4th of July Holiday here in the USA?   I tried calling Customer Support, which is suppose to be open, but got routed to an old DHL Canadian telephone that told me to update my phone records and call 1-855-DHL-SHIP - very strange.

Anybody else having problems today?

Is it normal to have to pay an import duty, or is this likely some type of screwup because DHL Canada appears to be dealing with things today (and Canadians always pay an import duty).



I've had to pay on every s9 I've ordered
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July 04, 2016, 05:33:44 PM
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I've had to pay on every s9 I've ordered

I didn't pay anything on my Batch 1 unit, although I only bought one then, and this is two units.

Excuse me for asking basic questions:  But are you USA based, how much was the duty per unit, and were you asked to pay through a Canadian site (dhlmypayument.us which routes to mypayment.dhl.ca)?  I'm particularly concerned that a US Import duty would be paid through a Canadian site...

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July 04, 2016, 05:45:15 PM
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I've had to pay on every s9 I've ordered

I didn't pay anything on my Batch 1 unit, although I only bought one then, and this is two units.

Excuse me for asking basic questions:  But are you USA based, how much was the duty per unit, and were you asked to pay through a Canadian site (dhlmypayument.us which routes to mypayment.dhl.ca)?  I'm particularly concerned that a US Import duty would be paid through a Canadian site...

I'm in the USA. The fees have made no sense. My batch 1's averaged just over $11.00 each. Batch 4 was under $10.00 each.
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July 04, 2016, 05:49:55 PM
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Well... much to my surprise, DHL showed up with the two power supplies (surprised because today is a national holiday in the US and they were not suppose to be working, but apparently the staff is trying to get residential things out - brownie points for them!)

The driver confirmed he found a 3rd package and that when he tried to clear it for delivery was told there was a tax due ($138).  Apparently the text was legit, and I have a receipt for payment of the tax addressed to me and duty_payments@dhl.com.

Hopefully I'll get the actual units tomorrow.

First time for everything I suppose.  I do recall reading somewhere that packages under $2500 were tax free (not worth the processing cost I guess), but of course, (2) S9s is closer to $4000.


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July 04, 2016, 05:50:53 PM
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I've had to pay on every s9 I've ordered

I didn't pay anything on my Batch 1 unit, although I only bought one then, and this is two units.

Excuse me for asking basic questions:  But are you USA based, how much was the duty per unit, and were you asked to pay through a Canadian site (dhlmypayument.us which routes to mypayment.dhl.ca)?  I'm particularly concerned that a US Import duty would be paid through a Canadian site...

I'm in the USA. The fees have made no sense. My batch 1's averaged just over $11.00 each. Batch 4 was under $10.00 each.

Thanks.... I just paid almost $70 each.

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July 04, 2016, 05:54:30 PM
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I've had to pay on every s9 I've ordered

I didn't pay anything on my Batch 1 unit, although I only bought one then, and this is two units.

Excuse me for asking basic questions:  But are you USA based, how much was the duty per unit, and were you asked to pay through a Canadian site (dhlmypayument.us which routes to mypayment.dhl.ca)?  I'm particularly concerned that a US Import duty would be paid through a Canadian site...

2 units = greater then 2500 usd = pay the man.

plenty of info on this I will find thread link.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1493601.msg15325563#msg15325563


I paid 0 for 2 from ups they missed me on batch 1
I paid 89 usd for 2 from ups they found me on batch 2

I paid 0 for 1 from ups I was under 2k on batch 4

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I've had to pay on every s9 I've ordered

I didn't pay anything on my Batch 1 unit, although I only bought one then, and this is two units.

Excuse me for asking basic questions:  But are you USA based, how much was the duty per unit, and were you asked to pay through a Canadian site (dhlmypayument.us which routes to mypayment.dhl.ca)?  I'm particularly concerned that a US Import duty would be paid through a Canadian site...

I'm in the USA. The fees have made no sense. My batch 1's averaged just over $11.00 each. Batch 4 was under $10.00 each.

Thanks.... I just paid almost $70 each.

That is ridiculous, keep us posted if that charge holds true. I thought about trying DHL on my next order. I'll definitely be staying with ups
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July 04, 2016, 06:01:48 PM
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Thanks.... I just paid almost $70 each.

That is ridiculous, keep us posted if that charge holds true. I thought about trying DHL on my next order. I'll definitely be staying with ups

Will do, but see no vector that would allow that to change, or that would make it vary by carrier???

Anyone know if import duties vary by US State?

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Thanks.... I just paid almost $70 each.

That is ridiculous, keep us posted if that charge holds true. I thought about trying DHL on my next order. I'll definitely be staying with ups

Will do, but see no vector that would allow that to change.

Anyone know if import duties vary by US State?

I've heard so many different things, I don't know what's true.
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July 04, 2016, 06:04:45 PM
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Thanks.... I just paid almost $70 each.

That is ridiculous, keep us posted if that charge holds true. I thought about trying DHL on my next order. I'll definitely be staying with ups

Will do, but see no vector that would allow that to change.

Anyone know if import duties vary by US State?

I've heard so many different things, I don't know what's true.

How about we go with "Random Government taxation"?

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July 04, 2016, 06:07:29 PM
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2 units = greater then 2500 usd = pay the man.

plenty of info on this I will find thread link.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1493601.msg15325563#msg15325563


I paid 0 for 2 from ups they missed me on batch 1
I paid 89 usd for 2 from ups they found me on batch 2

I paid 0 for 1 from ups I was under 2k on batch 4

Reading that thread next.  Thanks for the information. 

Wish I could have paid the man, but DHL doesn't let them load the packages on the truck until payment has been made.

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July 04, 2016, 10:13:20 PM
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2 units = greater then 2500 usd = pay the man.

plenty of info on this I will find thread link.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1493601.msg15325563#msg15325563


I paid 0 for 2 from ups they missed me on batch 1
I paid 89 usd for 2 from ups they found me on batch 2

I paid 0 for 1 from ups I was under 2k on batch 4

Reading that thread next.  Thanks for the information.  

Wish I could have paid the man, but DHL doesn't let them load the packages on the truck until payment has been made.

most of the money is going to dhl  not the feds.  every company  charges a connivence fee  for handling the tax.

I believe the tax is .3 percent  so a 2000 dollar miner  taxes are 6 dollars rest are fees from the shipper in your case dhl.

2 units at 4000 k tax = 12 bucks rest are fees you paid  DHL  for handling the paperwork and  laying the 12 bucks out to the feds.
  Not that I mind the fees/tax   but I read 20 to 30 pages of fed rules and I do have an accounting degree.

rate looks like .3%
the shipping company can charge you a fee for handling the paperwork.

2000 to 2500 is a gray area for tax.

over 2500 is taxable.  so right now two of these will be taxed and a fee added by fedex ,ups or dhl

and on the strictest interpolation of all the rules I read  this gear could be considered a commercial product for business  meaning 250 and up is when taxes start.



Ups lets you write  a check to the driver  which is what I did last time.

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July 05, 2016, 12:42:30 AM
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So about $11 in import tax and $125 in handling fee?  If so, I'll stop using DHL...

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July 05, 2016, 12:55:41 AM
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So about $11 in import tax and $125 in handling fee?  If so, I'll stop using DHL...

Each package counts as a separate handling fee.

I have stuck with ups even though they grabbed me for the order of two s-9s which were ordered 3 days apart but arrived the same day.

I think it was 39 paperwork 6 tax x two = 89.98 for the two.

A lot of us got the fees . I have to say you were a bit on the high side but DSL did charge less to ship.

So once you figure that in it is close to the same.

I ordered 1 more s-9 batch four and it was just under 2000. So no fees from ups on it.

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 fedex adds it no mater what then lies to you !!! . it won't mater the cost to them sadly .......  warning about them .

The other two sound about right .

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July 06, 2016, 01:00:23 AM
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Used DHL as a shipping method for my S9 B1 orders , paid 18$ custom fee after each miner ...  
DHL requested my tax number , and the Harmonized Tariff Schedule (HTS) number ( 8471 41 0150 )

Received txt msg from DHL :
We need your help DHL shipment xxxxxxxxxx is missing customs information and may be delayed. go to www.dhl-usa.com/cod

then :

DHL tracking# xxxxxxxxxx has arrived US.Import duties must be paid before delivery. To remit or for more info http://DHLmypayments.us

completed all the requested information online , paid the fee right away with CC , received my miners in 4 days

Miners shipped on jun 13 , delivered jun 17 ...




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I'm in the USA. The fees have made no sense. My batch 1's averaged just over $11.00 each. Batch 4 was under $10.00 each.

Thanks.... I just paid almost $70 each.

That is ridiculous, keep us posted if that charge holds true. I thought about trying DHL on my next order. I'll definitely be staying with ups

Contacted DHL and received the following reply:

Your shipper did not enter a HTS code on the commercial invoice for this shipment and the shipment was cleared under the HTS code of 8543.70.9960. This HTS code was determined based off on the description of the shipment documentation. It is a 2.6% duty rate and using a value of $3919.00, it would be $101.89 duty plus $25.00 MPF and a $11.00 payment deferment fee. To avoid this in the future we recommend you advise your shipper to enter the correct HTS code for the items being shipped.

I have forwarded that to Bitmain to 1)  let them know of their errors and 2) seek compensation.  I'll keep you posted on how that goes...

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