Poll: Is the creation of artificial superinteligence dangerous?

[bananacue]

How about jarvis and friday of Tony Stark, aren't they helpful mentor of tony  I think Ai and people can work together.

[Trading]

Some developments on AI that allowed them to present better results than humans can:

Deep Patient: https://www.nature.com/articles/srep26094

In 2015, at Mount Sinai Hospital in New York was created an AI system that can provide predictions on disease development taking in account early symptoms from patients.

It could make predictions on the development of a range of diseases as different as liver cancer or schizophrenia, better than specialists.



Deepmind: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1799-6 (2020)

Google's Health division subsidiary Deepmind managed to create an AI that gave better results than humans analyzing scans of breasts and detecting breast cancer. It reduced the amount of human mistakes.



AI was able to forecast which offenders were likely to commit new crimes better than humans:

https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/6/7/eaaz0652.abstract (2020)
"The performance gap between humans and algorithms was particularly pronounced when (...) participants were not provided with immediate feedback on the accuracy of their responses. Algorithms also outperformed humans when the information provided for predictions included an enriched (versus restricted) set of risk factors. These results suggest that algorithms can outperform human predictions of recidivism in ecologically valid settings."

[Negotiation]

How about jarvis and friday of Tony Stark, aren't they helpful mentor of tony  I think Ai and people can work together.

Working with people but creating superintelligence is very dangerous They do not always do good or are often associated with bad things. That is why it is much better to do this manually by completing such tasks through the program.

[Subbir]

How about jarvis and friday of Tony Stark, aren't they helpful mentor of tony  I think Ai and people can work together.

Working with people but creating superintelligence is very dangerous They do not always do good or are often associated with bad things. That is why it is much better to do this manually by completing such tasks through the program.

Good to try to to manually but i do not think the creation of artificial superintelligence is dangerous. It often helps with work But it'll depend entirely on the person himself. How will he handle.

[Trading]

The percentage of forum members who sustain that AI won't be a major problem keeps being the majority.
Share your opinion.

A few notices who point to an acceleration of the trend of employee dismissals because of AI adoption:

https://news.mit.edu/2020/how-many-jobs-robots-replace-0504
“Robots and Jobs: Evidence from U.S. Labor Markets,” appears in advance online form in the Journal of Political Economy. The authors are Acemoglu and Pascual Restrepo PhD ’16, an assistant professor of economics at Boston University.
"This means each additional robot added in manufacturing replaced about 3.3 workers nationally, on average. That increased use of robots in the workplace also lowered wages by roughly 0.4 percent during the same time period."
"From 1993 to 2007, U.S. firms actually did introduce almost exactly one new robot per 1,000 workers; in Europe, firms introduced 1.6 new robots per 1,000 workers."


https://time.com/5876604/machines-jobs-coronavirus/
"Millions of Americans Have Lost Jobs in the Pandemic—And Robots and AI Are Replacing Them Faster Than Ever"
"Robots could replace as many as 2 million more workers in manufacturing alone by 2025, according to a recent paper by economists at MIT and Boston University. “This pandemic has created a very strong incentive to automate the work of human beings".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/01/31/iheartmedia-radio-artificial-intelligence-djs/
"When iHeartMedia announced this month it would fire hundreds of workers across the country, the radio conglomerate said the restructuring was critical to take advantage of its “significant investments … in technology and artificial intelligence.”"
"The company, which now uses software to schedule music, analyze research and mix songs, plans to consolidate offices around what executives call “AI-enabled Centers of Excellence.”"

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48760799
Robots 'to replace up to 20 million factory jobs' by 2030
26 June 2019

https://www.futurity.org/robots-replacing-workers-2217712/
Since 2009, the number of manufacturing robots has more than doubled—from 0.813 per 1,000 workers to 1.974 per 1,000 workers.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/enterprise-adoption-of-ai-has-grown-270-percent-over-the-past-four-years/
Enterprise adoption of AI has grown 270 percent over the past four years
Gartner says that 37 percent of organizations have now embraced artificial intelligence.

[BADecker]

Is the creation of artificial super intelligence dangerous?


Only if it is stuck away in a box and forgotten about.

[Trading]

I guess you were one of the 4 forum members who voted on the last choice ("god will save us").

I suppose Robert Williams was also expecting that god would save him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Williams_(robot_fatality)

https://listverse.com/2018/03/20/top-10-people-killed-by-robots/

Notwithstanding, I'm glad that you are still around, brave soldier of god. Keep on the good work, promoting atheism with your brilliant arguments for the existence of god.

[J9 - Coinhost]

I don't think it's a dangerous situation. The level of programming required to make a sentient being is beyond anything we have thus far. Humans would have to program conditionally bad behavior into the AI which would be dumb for obvious reasons.

[Trading]

Covid 19 and the need for distancing measures increased the adoption of automation and artificial intelligence.

Usually, crises do. But this one converted many forms of human work in a risk.

https://lsa.umich.edu/social-solutions/news-events/news/insights-and-solutions/case-studies/case-study--covid-19-and-the-future-of-work.html

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n367

[Cnut237]

The percentage of forum members who sustain that AI won't be a major problem keeps being the majority.
Share your opinion.

None of the options really cover my perspective, so I haven't voted.

I think the creation of a super-intelligent artificial entity at some point in the future is all but inevitable, and there will be nothing we can do to prevent it or to control it.

I say 'at some point' because this could be decades away, or longer. There's a world of difference between brute processing power of whatever degree and a self-aware entity. But we now live in a world of big data, which is perfect food for neural networks. I'm confident that self-awareness will arise at some point, because I believe that all human biological processes can in theory be replicated artificially; I don't believe in any 'soul' or
immaterial essence.

And if such an entity does develop, then how can we control it? How can anyone, with confidence, say that they can control a thing that is faster and more intelligent than themselves?

[BADecker]

Is the creation of artificial superinteligence dangerous?


Only if it is stuck inside a Covid vaccine.

[puma1982]

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[Trading]

The creation of artificial intelligence superior to human one is indeed inevitable. One can argue that some are already more intelligence than us on certain specific points.

The way Alphazero managed to win at Go, inventing new moves, was an improving over human intelligence. Even human collective intelligence wasn't able to invent those moves in 2000 years of Go.

My main points are that we should avoid conscious artificial intelligence (consciousness and intelligence are different things: we can have the second without the first, like with Alphazero) and we should merge with it.

[Trading]

Journalists are testifying their own demise.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/calumchace/2020/08/24/the-impact-of-ai-on-journalism/

"nearly a third of the content published by Bloomberg is generated by a system called Cyborg"

Many of them argue that AI still can't offer imaginative opinions. But the distinction between opinion and facts are classic. And the main mission of journalists is reporting facts and not giving their opinion.

The recent trend of some american journalism to adopt a clear political biased stile of reporting and a policy of mixing facts and opinions isn't positive.

An updated stream of news about this issue can be read at https://journalismai.com/

[ARTURVH]

Any artificial intelligence is invented and created by human beings. I always believe that human beings are the masters of the universe.The creation of artificial superinteligence is good for human beings.

[Natsuu]

Any artificial intelligence is invented and created by human beings. I always believe that human beings are the masters of the universe.The creation of artificial superinteligence is good for human beings.

But the concept of artificial superintelligence will make it able to surpass the knowledge a human being can have as it can store a large amount of knowledge that can be surfed within seconds. Plus the ability to understand, and cope up with the logics behind which makes us human distinct as a race. The intention is there and will always be for the benefits of the human beings/ master, but as they are able to think and comprehend the logics, they can have their own decision and perceptions on how the world must be, the same as how each individual human has different ways on how they think the world must be.

[Trading]

Intelligence is the most important and rare commodity in the Universe.

Possibly, we are the only intelligence species in the Milky Way. Just read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare_Earth_hypothesis

Forget about finding any technological advances species in our galaxy, like in Science Fiction books and movies.

By creating a super AI we can really change this. But I'm afraid we'll be risking extinction, as I wrote on the OP.

And this will apply even if they were friendly. We'll be worthless.

Unless we merge with them.

Elon Musk is right about this and his Neurolink can be his major achievement.

[songchunlai]

We do not use valueless robots, so this will not happen.

[Trading]

Another opportunity to really start a general and mainstream debate about the dangers of artificial superinteligence was lost:

https://ai100.stanford.edu/2021-report/gathering-strength-gathering-storms-one-hundred-year-study-artificial-intelligence

The report is far from optimist and voices some concerns.

One of the issues, autonomous robots with killing capacities, seems to have little perspectives to be avoided.

The issue is concerning indeed. But this will only require a stupid robot with limited capacities.

My concerns are with AI with general capacities and consciousness.

[Trading]

I wrote that I'm worried about AI gaining consciousness.

I was hoping initiatives like Musk's Neurolink would be able to create the conditions for some kind of merging process between humans and AI that would avoid us to become irrelevant and condemned to certain extinction.

Now, there is an engineer from Google Deep Mind saying that one of their Bots is sentient person:
https://www.livescience.com/google-sentient-ai-lamda-lemoine

He might be wrong, but when are we going to start believing that this is real and a problem? When some of them gain consciousness, escapes to the Internet (it's all about software that will be able to "survive" if they infect a good computer) and start hacking their way in order to survive at any cost?

We might be approaching a moment of non-return on the field of AI sooner than I thought. And we are many years from any viable system that could allow us to adapt and integrate their capacities.

Even concerned people just think someone will do something and solve the problem.