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I wanted to know if when solo mining and I am connect to a pool for status update and it has Stratum support on it. Are the blocks different as appose to normal pools without Stratum support do they use different block change and blocks or is it the same as normal Huh or just a different method of mining and blocks will still be updated as normal ?

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March 17, 2013, 07:52:37 AM
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Hey crazyearning, I don't really understand your question. Blocks are solved on the level of the Blockchain- it has to do with coin. When you are pool mining your are solving shares, which are little pieces of the block. If I understand it correctly Stratum is a way to handle distributing a larger number of shares at a faster rate- previously we had long poll which told us when someone else already solved our block, so we could stop working on it (otherwise we would continue to solve it, and when we did the network would reject it as already solved).

Does that help you out? It's still blocks and shares, Stratus is just a more efficient way of organising things for the miners. 

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March 17, 2013, 03:27:22 PM
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Hey crazyearning, I don't really understand your question. Blocks are solved on the level of the Blockchain- it has to do with coin. When you are pool mining your are solving shares, which are little pieces of the block. If I understand it correctly Stratum is a way to handle distributing a larger number of shares at a faster rate- previously we had long poll which told us when someone else already solved our block, so we could stop working on it (otherwise we would continue to solve it, and when we did the network would reject it as already solved).

Does that help you out? It's still blocks and shares, Stratus is just a more efficient way of organising things for the miners. 

yeah thats perfect. I was getting confused with it all. I just dont get why am not finding blocks tho. I guess tihs is due to diff going up a lot and going to take more time than it use to when diff was at like 500 to 700 lol

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March 17, 2013, 03:50:36 PM
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Hey crazyearning, I don't really understand your question. Blocks are solved on the level of the Blockchain- it has to do with coin. When you are pool mining your are solving shares, which are little pieces of the block. If I understand it correctly Stratum is a way to handle distributing a larger number of shares at a faster rate- previously we had long poll which told us when someone else already solved our block, so we could stop working on it (otherwise we would continue to solve it, and when we did the network would reject it as already solved).

Does that help you out? It's still blocks and shares, Stratus is just a more efficient way of organising things for the miners. 

yeah thats perfect. I was getting confused with it all. I just dont get why am not finding blocks tho. I guess tihs is due to diff going up a lot and going to take more time than it use to when diff was at like 500 to 700 lol

Well, if you're pool mining- you won't find a block yourself, but you'll solve a share of a block, for which the pool pays you a proportional percentage. But you're right about the Diff, back when the diff was like 400, I was mining like 800 coins a day, now I get around 20-30. So, big changes! But it's a good thing. You can still mine, and hopefully the value of the coin will go up (I believe it will!) to the point that your investment now will pay off in the future.

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March 17, 2013, 04:42:55 PM
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Hey crazyearning, I don't really understand your question. Blocks are solved on the level of the Blockchain- it has to do with coin. When you are pool mining your are solving shares, which are little pieces of the block. If I understand it correctly Stratum is a way to handle distributing a larger number of shares at a faster rate- previously we had long poll which told us when someone else already solved our block, so we could stop working on it (otherwise we would continue to solve it, and when we did the network would reject it as already solved).

Does that help you out? It's still blocks and shares, Stratus is just a more efficient way of organising things for the miners. 

yeah thats perfect. I was getting confused with it all. I just don't get why am not finding blocks tho. I guess this is due to diff going up a lot and going to take more time than it use to when diff was at like 500 to 700 lol

Well, if you're pool mining- you won't find a block yourself, but you'll solve a share of a block, for which the pool pays you a proportional percentage. But you're right about the Diff, back when the diff was like 400, I was mining like 800 coins a day, now I get around 20-30. So, big changes! But it's a good thing. You can still mine, and hopefully the value of the coin will go up (I believe it will!) to the point that your investment now will pay off in the future.

Yeah am sad this weekend due to selling most of my TRC start of the month. Should of held on to it Sad now seeing how much I sold and how much its worth at the min epic fail but you live and learn sometimes Sad

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March 17, 2013, 04:44:12 PM
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Hey crazyearning, I don't really understand your question. Blocks are solved on the level of the Blockchain- it has to do with coin. When you are pool mining your are solving shares, which are little pieces of the block. If I understand it correctly Stratum is a way to handle distributing a larger number of shares at a faster rate- previously we had long poll which told us when someone else already solved our block, so we could stop working on it (otherwise we would continue to solve it, and when we did the network would reject it as already solved).

Does that help you out? It's still blocks and shares, Stratus is just a more efficient way of organising things for the miners. 

yeah thats perfect. I was getting confused with it all. I just don't get why am not finding blocks tho. I guess this is due to diff going up a lot and going to take more time than it use to when diff was at like 500 to 700 lol

Well, if you're pool mining- you won't find a block yourself, but you'll solve a share of a block, for which the pool pays you a proportional percentage. But you're right about the Diff, back when the diff was like 400, I was mining like 800 coins a day, now I get around 20-30. So, big changes! But it's a good thing. You can still mine, and hopefully the value of the coin will go up (I believe it will!) to the point that your investment now will pay off in the future.

Yeah am sad this weekend due to selling most of my TRC start of the month. Should of held on to it Sad now seeing how much I sold and how much its worth at the min epic fail but you live and learn sometimes Sad

Well, keep on mining!

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March 23, 2013, 06:24:04 PM
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I wanted to know if when solo mining and I am connect to a pool for status update and it has Stratum support on it. Are the blocks different as appose to normal pools without Stratum support do they use different block change and blocks or is it the same as normal Huh or just a different method of mining and blocks will still be updated as normal ?

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March 24, 2013, 12:02:03 AM
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I wanted to know if when solo mining and I am connect to a pool for status update and it has Stratum support on it. Are the blocks different as appose to normal pools without Stratum support do they use different block change and blocks or is it the same as normal Huh or just a different method of mining and blocks will still be updated as normal ?

The blocks that are ultimately submitted are the same, the change is in the way the pool and the mining software communicate.

Stratum pools basically sends a "block template" to the miner.

Quote from the BIP 022 Wikki: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP_0022

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Instead of sending a simple block header for hashing, the entire block structure is sent, and left to the miner to (optionally) customize and assemble.

This allows more of the actual work to be done by the miners instead of the pool. As hash rates increase, especially in the coming days of ASIC's, both network traffic and the work required by pool servers using LP will be astronomical.

In the realm of alt-coins, not as large of an issue for now, but it is still nice to use stratum. One will not see as large of a gain as with BTC, but still every little percentage of efficiency helps.  Smiley

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