ISIS is nothing compared to U.S. cops.

[Astargath]

'Let me in, let me in!' Witnesses say they heard white Dallas cop knocking on door and...

Neighbors of a white cop who shot dead a black man in Dallas on Thursday night after walking into his apartment have disputed her claim that his door was ajar when she arrived at it.

Seconds before Amber Guyger, 30, shot Botham Jean in the chest, one neighbor said they heard a woman in the hallway knocking on a door and yelling: 'Let me in, let me in.'

Another neighbor then heard gunshots and afterwards claimed to have heard a man shouting: 'Oh my God. Why did you do that?' 

The witness told Jean's family's lawyer Lee Merritt they think those were his last words. Jean's mother Allison said she believes there is more to her son's death than has been revealed.

Read more at https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6155249/Witnesses-dispute-white-Dallas-cops-claim-black-neighbors-door-ajar.html.

Desperate now badecker?

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[crypt0j0e]

Are you afraid of ISIS in America? Be afraid of U.S. cops!

Yes there's many stories every year about fatal police shootings in America but i don't think you should live in fear. Statistically you're more likely to die in a car accident than to be shot by a cop. But I know that doesn't excuse what's happening because it's very sad that there's even one death if it could've been prevented.

[BADecker]

Desperate now badecker?

Actually, pitying you a little.     

[Astargath]

Desperate now badecker?

Actually, pitying you a little.     

Still waiting for those statistics to back up any of your claims, I'm guessing we are not getting those, are we? Most cops are good people.

[BADecker]

Desperate now badecker?

Actually, pitying you a little.     

Still waiting for those statistics to back up any of your claims, I'm guessing we are not getting those, are we? Most cops are good people.

You have to be able to understand statistics, and know how to do your own research. Statistical compilation doesn't simply jump out at people. You need to do it yourself, since you don't believe anything I show, anyway. But if you keep waiting, we might not have to put up with more of your childish comments any longer.

[cheeseandcrackers]

Are you fucking serious?   There are seriously corrupt cops, and they often get away with things they shouldn't get away with.  I'm not going to debate that.  But are you seriously, genuinely trying to say that cops are worse than fucking ISIS?   They murder people all the time.  They destroy entire towns, they decapitate people and record video of it.  Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit, of course ISIS is worse.  Get the fuck out of your bubble and understand that there is a world outside of people being discriminated for being black, and instead of them being racially profiled they're just executed instead.  Jesus Christ, get a grip.

[BADecker]

Are you fucking serious?   There are seriously corrupt cops, and they often get away with things they shouldn't get away with.  I'm not going to debate that.  But are you seriously, genuinely trying to say that cops are worse than fucking ISIS?   They murder people all the time.  They destroy entire towns, they decapitate people and record video of it.  Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit, of course ISIS is worse.  Get the fuck out of your bubble and understand that there is a world outside of people being discriminated for being black, and instead of them being racially profiled they're just executed instead.  Jesus Christ, get a grip.

You see a cop. You trust cops. You walk up to the cop and say "hi." The cop shoots you, because he happens to be a bad cop... or he is simply scared of you for no reason. Or, he doesn't shoot you, but you never know for sure until you try it.

You see a member of ISIS. You turn and run. You don't get shot.

So, who is better? The cop who shoots you, or ISIS who doesn't?

If you KNEW the cop was going to shoot only the bad people, your trust would be well founded. As it is, you can't trust him.

But you CAN trust ISIS... to shoot you. So you run and are safe.

Cops are way worse than ISIS.

[cescudero95]

In the original thread, was the deceased suspect armed or not?  It wasn't made clear by the OP.

[cheeseandcrackers]

Are you fucking serious?   There are seriously corrupt cops, and they often get away with things they shouldn't get away with.  I'm not going to debate that.  But are you seriously, genuinely trying to say that cops are worse than fucking ISIS?   They murder people all the time.  They destroy entire towns, they decapitate people and record video of it.  Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit, of course ISIS is worse.  Get the fuck out of your bubble and understand that there is a world outside of people being discriminated for being black, and instead of them being racially profiled they're just executed instead.  Jesus Christ, get a grip.

You see a cop. You trust cops. You walk up to the cop and say "hi." The cop shoots you, because he happens to be a bad cop... or he is simply scared of you for no reason. Or, he doesn't shoot you, but you never know for sure until you try it.

You see a member of ISIS. You turn and run. You don't get shot.

So, who is better? The cop who shoots you, or ISIS who doesn't?

If you KNEW the cop was going to shoot only the bad people, your trust would be well founded. As it is, you can't trust him.

But you CAN trust ISIS... to shoot you. So you run and are safe.

Cops are way worse than ISIS.

You're ignoring the fact that the staggering majority of cops are not corrupt.  Most of the time you walk up to the cop and say hi he just says hi right back.  Stop talking shit. 

Corrupt cops are a problem for sure, but you can't just ignore all the average to good ones just because some of them are scum. 

[Astargath]

Are you fucking serious?   There are seriously corrupt cops, and they often get away with things they shouldn't get away with.  I'm not going to debate that.  But are you seriously, genuinely trying to say that cops are worse than fucking ISIS?   They murder people all the time.  They destroy entire towns, they decapitate people and record video of it.  Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit, of course ISIS is worse.  Get the fuck out of your bubble and understand that there is a world outside of people being discriminated for being black, and instead of them being racially profiled they're just executed instead.  Jesus Christ, get a grip.

You see a cop. You trust cops. You walk up to the cop and say "hi." The cop shoots you, because he happens to be a bad cop... or he is simply scared of you for no reason. Or, he doesn't shoot you, but you never know for sure until you try it.

You see a member of ISIS. You turn and run. You don't get shot.

So, who is better? The cop who shoots you, or ISIS who doesn't?

If you KNEW the cop was going to shoot only the bad people, your trust would be well founded. As it is, you can't trust him.

But you CAN trust ISIS... to shoot you. So you run and are safe.

Cops are way worse than ISIS.

That particular cop is indeed not good, however majority of cops 99.99% wont shoot you like that, therefore the majority of cops are good.

[BADecker]

Are you fucking serious?   There are seriously corrupt cops, and they often get away with things they shouldn't get away with.  I'm not going to debate that.  But are you seriously, genuinely trying to say that cops are worse than fucking ISIS?   They murder people all the time.  They destroy entire towns, they decapitate people and record video of it.  Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit, of course ISIS is worse.  Get the fuck out of your bubble and understand that there is a world outside of people being discriminated for being black, and instead of them being racially profiled they're just executed instead.  Jesus Christ, get a grip.

You see a cop. You trust cops. You walk up to the cop and say "hi." The cop shoots you, because he happens to be a bad cop... or he is simply scared of you for no reason. Or, he doesn't shoot you, but you never know for sure until you try it.

You see a member of ISIS. You turn and run. You don't get shot.

So, who is better? The cop who shoots you, or ISIS who doesn't?

If you KNEW the cop was going to shoot only the bad people, your trust would be well founded. As it is, you can't trust him.

But you CAN trust ISIS... to shoot you. So you run and are safe.

Cops are way worse than ISIS.

That particular cop is indeed not good, however majority of cops 99.99% wont shoot you like that, therefore the majority of cops are good.

If you are talking about https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1543343.msg45595151#msg45595151...

But at her trial, if the police union stood up for her, 99+% of cops would stand up for her, no matter how guilty she was.

[Astargath]

Are you fucking serious?   There are seriously corrupt cops, and they often get away with things they shouldn't get away with.  I'm not going to debate that.  But are you seriously, genuinely trying to say that cops are worse than fucking ISIS?   They murder people all the time.  They destroy entire towns, they decapitate people and record video of it.  Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit, of course ISIS is worse.  Get the fuck out of your bubble and understand that there is a world outside of people being discriminated for being black, and instead of them being racially profiled they're just executed instead.  Jesus Christ, get a grip.

You see a cop. You trust cops. You walk up to the cop and say "hi." The cop shoots you, because he happens to be a bad cop... or he is simply scared of you for no reason. Or, he doesn't shoot you, but you never know for sure until you try it.

You see a member of ISIS. You turn and run. You don't get shot.

So, who is better? The cop who shoots you, or ISIS who doesn't?

If you KNEW the cop was going to shoot only the bad people, your trust would be well founded. As it is, you can't trust him.

But you CAN trust ISIS... to shoot you. So you run and are safe.

Cops are way worse than ISIS.

That particular cop is indeed not good, however majority of cops 99.99% wont shoot you like that, therefore the majority of cops are good.

If you are talking about https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1543343.msg45595151#msg45595151...

But at her trial, if the police union stood up for her, 99+% of cops would stand up for her, no matter how guilty she was.

Stood up for her? Why would anyone do that without evidence? That's how you think trials and judges work? Both parties need to provide the necessary evidence and the judge or judges will provide a sentence. If someone is accused of rape I guess you consider him guilty just because he is accused and everyone should support the other party even though you don't know if it really happened. Again, stop with the idiotic arguments mate, you are not getting anywhere.

[BADecker]

If you are talking about https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1543343.msg45595151#msg45595151...

But at her trial, if the police union stood up for her, 99+% of cops would stand up for her, no matter how guilty she was.

Stood up for her? Why would anyone do that without evidence? That's how you think trials and judges work? Both parties need to provide the necessary evidence and the judge or judges will provide a sentence. If someone is accused of rape I guess you consider him guilty just because he is accused and everyone should support the other party even though you don't know if it really happened. Again, stop with the idiotic arguments mate, you are not getting anywhere.

Again, the point isn't why anyone would or wouldn't stand up for her. It's what the cops would do. They might not be happy with whatever the police union said and did. But they would follow the police union almost 100%. ISIS follows THEIR union almost 100%, as well. Way more cops. Cops way worse.

[BLAST2MARS]

ISIS has a different level of evil inside them and those US cops have just racism inside them. ISIS are commiting crimes while those US cops are implementing selective judgement which is really not good for the black people.

[mzimino]

Young was first contacted by the FBI in 2010 as authorities were investigating an acquaintance he knew through college and a local mosque. Court papers say Young told agents he was shocked by the allegations against Zachary Chesser , who was ultimately convicted of trying to join an al-Qaeda-linked terrorist group and threatening the creators of “South Park.” (Chesser, the defense says, later indicated he remembered Young as a conservative police officer “not interested in jihad.”)

[Astargath]

If you are talking about https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1543343.msg45595151#msg45595151...

But at her trial, if the police union stood up for her, 99+% of cops would stand up for her, no matter how guilty she was.

Stood up for her? Why would anyone do that without evidence? That's how you think trials and judges work? Both parties need to provide the necessary evidence and the judge or judges will provide a sentence. If someone is accused of rape I guess you consider him guilty just because he is accused and everyone should support the other party even though you don't know if it really happened. Again, stop with the idiotic arguments mate, you are not getting anywhere.

Again, the point isn't why anyone would or wouldn't stand up for her. It's what the cops would do. They might not be happy with whatever the police union said and did. But they would follow the police union almost 100%. ISIS follows THEIR union almost 100%, as well. Way more cops. Cops way worse.

''But they would follow the police union almost 100%'' What does this mean? Follow what exactly? This was a particular cop that is accused of doing something bad. What are you talking about?

[BADecker]

If you are talking about https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1543343.msg45595151#msg45595151...

But at her trial, if the police union stood up for her, 99+% of cops would stand up for her, no matter how guilty she was.

Stood up for her? Why would anyone do that without evidence? That's how you think trials and judges work? Both parties need to provide the necessary evidence and the judge or judges will provide a sentence. If someone is accused of rape I guess you consider him guilty just because he is accused and everyone should support the other party even though you don't know if it really happened. Again, stop with the idiotic arguments mate, you are not getting anywhere.

Again, the point isn't why anyone would or wouldn't stand up for her. It's what the cops would do. They might not be happy with whatever the police union said and did. But they would follow the police union almost 100%. ISIS follows THEIR union almost 100%, as well. Way more cops. Cops way worse.

''But they would follow the police union almost 100%'' What does this mean? Follow what exactly? This was a particular cop that is accused of doing something bad. What are you talking about?

This means that cops would formally agree with the police union almost 100%, even if they personally and informally did not agree.

ISIS doesn't have a police union, because they are all their own union. So, they are good by agreeing with themselves.

Cops aren't so good in agreeing with themselves. They are duplicitously bad at the same time:
1. Agreeing with their own police union;
2. Disagreeing with their own police union.

You can trust ISIS to do exactly what they are there for.

You never can tell about cops.

Cops are way worse than ISIS.

[Astargath]

If you are talking about https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1543343.msg45595151#msg45595151...

But at her trial, if the police union stood up for her, 99+% of cops would stand up for her, no matter how guilty she was.

Stood up for her? Why would anyone do that without evidence? That's how you think trials and judges work? Both parties need to provide the necessary evidence and the judge or judges will provide a sentence. If someone is accused of rape I guess you consider him guilty just because he is accused and everyone should support the other party even though you don't know if it really happened. Again, stop with the idiotic arguments mate, you are not getting anywhere.

Again, the point isn't why anyone would or wouldn't stand up for her. It's what the cops would do. They might not be happy with whatever the police union said and did. But they would follow the police union almost 100%. ISIS follows THEIR union almost 100%, as well. Way more cops. Cops way worse.

''But they would follow the police union almost 100%'' What does this mean? Follow what exactly? This was a particular cop that is accused of doing something bad. What are you talking about?

This means that cops would formally agree with the police union almost 100%, even if they personally and informally did not agree.

ISIS doesn't have a police union, because they are all their own union. So, they are good by agreeing with themselves.

Cops aren't so good in agreeing with themselves. They are duplicitously bad at the same time:
1. Agreeing with their own police union;
2. Disagreeing with their own police union.

You can trust ISIS to do exactly what they are there for.

You never can tell about cops.

Cops are way worse than ISIS.

This is badecker's logic:

Let's say you have a group of 2000 people tell you that they are going to murder people.

Then you have a group of 2000 people that do not tell you that but 2 of them go and murder people.

From badeckers logic, the first group is better because they tell you, the second group is worse than the first because they werent supposed to murder anyone.

Crazy.

[BADecker]

This is badecker's logic:

Let's say you have a group of 2000 people tell you that they are going to murder people.

Then you have a group of 2000 people that do not tell you that but 2 of them go and murder people.

From badeckers logic, the first group is better because they tell you, the second group is worse than the first because they werent supposed to murder anyone.

Crazy.

Since Astargath won't tell us what groups he is talking about, what he says is irrelevant for this topic.

ISIS follow their Islam government/religion better than all the major Islamic groups. They obey their religious laws even to the point of executing religious heretics within their own group, as their religion tells them.

Cops obey much of the law of their land, get away with lots of crap because of the position they are in, kill and beat innocent people against their laws, and side with the police union no matter what the police union does, rescue cats out of trees.

ISIS is honest and upright according to their Islamic religion/government. Cops are all over the place with regard to theirs.

Nobody ever knows about cops. Everybody can tell about ISIS.

Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.

[Astargath]

This is badecker's logic:

Let's say you have a group of 2000 people tell you that they are going to murder people.

Then you have a group of 2000 people that do not tell you that but 2 of them go and murder people.

From badeckers logic, the first group is better because they tell you, the second group is worse than the first because they werent supposed to murder anyone.

Crazy.

Since Astargath won't tell us what groups he is talking about, what he says is irrelevant for this topic.

ISIS follow their Islam government/religion better than all the major Islamic groups. They obey their religious laws even to the point of executing religious heretics within their own group, as their religion tells them.

Cops obey much of the law of their land, get away with lots of crap because of the position they are in, kill and beat innocent people against their laws, and side with the police union no matter what the police union does, rescue cats out of trees.

ISIS is honest and upright according to their Islamic religion/government. Cops are all over the place with regard to theirs.

Nobody ever knows about cops. Everybody can tell about ISIS.

Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.

''kill and beat innocent people against their laws'' A small percentage <0.09% of them do that.

''Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.''

Again badecker's logic. Let's say you have 50.000 ISIS members, we don't know the exact number.

Then you have around 765.000 cops in the US. 0.09% of those are involved in police shootings which most of them are justified, so it's probably around 0.001% unjustified shootings but let's use 0.09% That's around 680 cops involved in shootings. Again not counting how many were justified.

You basically believe that all cops are worse than isis because 0.09% of them do bad things (again not counting justified cases) when 100% of ISIS does bad things. Badecker's logic is 0.09% > 100%

A 10 year old would have better logic than you.