ISIS is nothing compared to U.S. cops.

[BADecker]

^^^ The cop-shop is doing an internal briefing to its people about what to say and do if they are questioned about the incident in the above post. But they aren't letting the media cover it, 'cause the way they are going about it is illegal.


Abuse of Force: ABC15 confronts Glendale police about no-camera briefing

^^^ They are calling in the FBI. Why? Because AZ Governor Ducey saw videos of the case, and can't believe that AZ cops would act this way.


Maricopa County Attorney forwards Glendale tasing incident to FBI for review

PHOENIX — The Maricopa County Attorney's Office has asked the Federal Bureau of Investigation to review the actions of Glendale police officers at the center of a 2017 incident where a man was tased 11 times by Glendale police.

"After having personally reviewed all available video evidence, I have determined further investigation is warranted," county attorney Bill Montgomery said in a Wednesday statement. "In order to ensure the public's confidence in any future determination of whether the use of force was lawful, review by an uninvolved agency is appropriate."

Montgomery's statement comes the same day Arizona Governor Doug Ducey called the initial investigation into the actions of Officer Matthew Schneider unacceptable and said he wanted to see the investigation into the actions of the Glendale officer re-opened.

"What I saw on that videotape did not represent the law enforcement that I know in the state of Arizona. What I saw was completely unacceptable," Ducey said. "And it seems to me that the investigation was whitewashed. I'd love to see the county attorney's office re-open the investigation and get to the bottom of what happened there and hold people accountable."

In a statement, an FBI spokesperson said the agency is responsible for investigating potential violations of federal civil rights statutes.

"Any time civil rights violations are brought to the attention of the FBI, the FBI collects all available facts and evidence and will ensure they are reviewed in a fair, thorough, and impartial manner," according to spokesperson Jill McCabe. Citing department policy, McCabe said the FBI cannot confirm particular investigations or comment on cases where criminal charges have not been filed.

Watch the videos at the linked pages.

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[BADecker]

Like this is going to stop cops from taking your property. But I suppose it is a start.


US Supreme Court Rules To Limit States' Ability To Seize Property, Impose Fines

The US Supreme Court ruled unanimously on Wednesday that the Excessive Fines Clause in the 8th Amendment applies to state and local governments.

Announced in an opinion written by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg on her second day back on the bench following a December cancer surgery, the ruling limits states' abilities to seize property and impose fines deemed excessive on citizens who break the law.

"For good reason, the protection against excessive fines has been a constant shield throughout Anglo-American history: Exorbitant tolls undermine other constitutional liberties," wrote Ginsburg, as the court sided with Tyson Timbs of Marion Indiana, whose $42,000 Land Rover SUV was seized by the state following a guilty plea for selling $385 worth of heroin to an undercover detective.

Following a plea bargain, Timbs was sentenced to a year of home detention followed by five years of probation, as well as $1,200 in fees.

"Excessive fines can be used, for example, to retaliate against or chill the speech of political enemies . . . Even absent a political motive, fines may be employed in a measure out of accord with the penal goals of retribution and deterrence."

Timbs drew wide support from civil liberties organizations, according to the Washington Post.

Other USSC Justices were highly critical of property seizures and fines, with Justice Clarence Thomas suggesting that civil forfeitures had become "widespread and highly profitable."

"This system — where police can seize property with limited judicial oversight and retain it for their own use — has led to egregious and well-chronicled abuses," Thomas wrote, referring to reporting by The Washington Post and the New Yorker.

At oral argument, Timbs's lawyer said the case was a simple matter of "constitutional housekeeping." -Washington Post

[BADecker]

Since cops can't get away with it by simply doing it, they have gotten the government to say that it is okay, just so they can be at least as bad as ISIS.


A History of Civil Asset Forfeiture in America:

Civil asset forfeiture has become a widely-recognized term, largely because of the long train of abuses that has been brought to the public's attention over the last several years. Though few actually know from whence this practice originated, many are aware that the uptick in its use coincided with the rise of the government's War on Drugs. However, the use of civil asset forfeiture began long before the drug war. In fact, its use can be traced all the way back to medieval times and the American founding.

If It Pleases the Crown…

For anyone unfamiliar with the term, civil asset forfeiture is a practice that allows law enforcement to seize money and property from someone suspected of wrongdoing, but who has not yet been charged with a crime. Sadly, many are never charged with a crime and even still find it difficult, if not impossible, to get their seized property back.

The really funny things are:

- When asset forfeiture loses, and the stuff is returned, you don't hear about it in the news;

- Also, cops and others are opening themselves up to prosecution when the populace wakes up to the methods open to them to use common law;

- Essentially, the people are doing it to themselves, by not understanding that the courts are using the letter of the law, but not the spirit of the law, by completely hiding the fact that there is remedy for the people, where they will win if they ever used it.

[BADecker]

But it isn't only a few bad apples.


Predator Cops, Guilty of Sex Crimes Against Women and Children, Are a Menace to Society

"Sexual predation by police officers happens far more often than people in the business are willing to admit."—Former Seattle police chief Norm Stamper

How could this be happening right under our noses?

That's what readers wanted to know after my column went viral about the extent to which young children are being bought and sold for sex in America.

Where are the police when these children—some as young as 9 years old—are being raped repeatedly?

For that matter, what is the Trump Administration doing about the fact that adults purchase children for sex at least 2.5 million times a year in suburbs, cities and towns across this nation?

I'll tell you what the government is doing: little to nothing.

While America's children are being menaced by sexual predators, the Trump Administration and its congressional cohorts continue to wage endless wars, run up the national debt, and distract the populace with vitriol and kabuki political theater.

The police are not much better.

In too many instances, the cops are worse.

Indeed, while there are certainly many good cops in this country—and I've had the honor of working with a number of them—the bad cops have become symptomatic of a criminal justice system that is deeply rotten through and through.

We can no longer count on police to save us from the worst in our society.

In many cases, rather than being part of the solution, America's police forces—riddled with corruption, brutality, sexual misconduct and drug abuse—have largely become part of the problem. As the Philadelphia Inquirer reports, "Hundreds of police officers across the country have turned from protectors to predators, using the power of their badge to extort sex."

Let's start with sex trafficking.

In a number of cases, victims of sex trafficking report that police are among those "buying" young girls and women for sex.

In other words, as a recent study by the State Commission on the Status of Women and Arizona State University makes clear, "victims are being exploited by the very people who are supposed to protect them: police officers."

Check out the many links in the article to back up what is being said.

[okala]

US cops can not be any thing compared to ISIS because no matter how violent the US cops can be it can not be likened to the terrorist activities of the ISIS which kill without reason. The US cops are there to protect you from harmful attacks while the other is bringing attack to your door step.

[BADecker]

^^^ Why do you think that ISIS kills without reason? It's a religious jihad.

As you say, cops are designed to protect us. But did you read the article right above your post? It shows that cops are doing a lot of the things that ISIS is doing. EVERYBODY expects ISIS to do thos things. But people trust cops until they get screwed... something nobody does with ISIS ( trust them). But, by law, cops are not required to help with anything. And they are proving it - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046236.msg50873402#msg50873402.

The point is, cops have religion. It's religion of selfishness and greed - get away with as much as you can. If they could get away with more ISIS-like activity than they are getting away with, now, they would absolutely do it.

[Astargath]

^^^ Why do you think that ISIS kills without reason? It's a religious jihad.

As you say, cops are designed to protect us. But did you read the article right above your post? It shows that cops are doing a lot of the things that ISIS is doing. EVERYBODY expects ISIS to do thos things. But people trust cops until they get screwed... something nobody does with ISIS ( trust them). But, by law, cops are not required to help with anything. And they are proving it - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046236.msg50873402#msg50873402.

The point is, cops have religion. It's religion of selfishness and greed - get away with as much as you can. If they could get away with more ISIS-like activity than they are getting away with, now, they would absolutely do it.

It shows that 0.001% of cops (humans) do bad things, as usual. Nothing relevant there.

[Naida_BR]

I am not living in the US but your point is not accurate at all I think.
US police may be violent but they should not compared to the ISIS Fighters.
ISIS trains young children to kill and to spread hatred. US cops are violent but I think in special cases and of course they are not terrorists.

[BADecker]

^^^ If you see an ISIS member coming with his gun, you run because you know he is a terrorist.

If you see a cop coming with his gun, you don't run, because you don' know he has tricked you into thinking that he is not a terrorist... but he is.

[Astargath]

^^^ If you see an ISIS member coming with his gun, you run because you know he is a terrorist.

If you see a cop coming with his gun, you don't run, because you don' know he has tricked you into thinking that he is not a terrorist... but he is.

If you see badecker running into you, you don't run because he tricked you into believing he is a good person but he is in fact a terrorist and might just kill you if you are a homosexual or enslave you

[BADecker]

Get your cameras installed... with direct uplinks to Google and Youtube and the Net... so that they can't easily be erased if cops grab the cameras.


After being repeatedly harassed by cops, an innocent man installed cameras which caught them beating him instead

Palo Alto, CA — Gustavo Alvarez — despite not having a criminal record — says he's been repeated harassed by Palo Alto police. So, two years ago, he had surveillance cameras installed on his home in case his fears of police harassment ever materialized on his doorstep. Earlier this year, that is exactly what happened. Only because Alvarez had these cameras installed is he a free man today.

"I wanted to have proof of what they were doing because I want them to stop harassing me," Alvarez said of why he installed the cameras.

Earlier this year, police accused Alvarez — without any evidence — of driving on a suspended license. Instead of issuing a summons or a citation, the Palo Alto police department sent a unit to Alvarez's residence. When the officer confronted Alvarez, Alvarez asked him if he saw him driving a car, to which the officer replied, "No I did not."

After realizing he was simply receiving more harassment without any evidence of a crime, Alvarez went inside his home and closed the door.

"His opinion [was] that there was no legal justification to detain him," said Alvarez's attorney Cody Salfen. "And that ended up being true because the judge at the Superior Court level found that the officers lacked reasonable suspicion to detain him."

Instead of realizing they had no legal reason to detain him, the officer called for backup and a half dozen heavily armed cops showed up at Alvarez's home — over an alleged traffic ticket. One of those cops was Sgt. Wayne Benitez who appeared to take pleasure in doling out pain to the innocent gay man.

As the video shows, police rip Alvarez from his home where he is slammed on the hood of his car. Benitez then begins punching and slamming Alvarez for no reason at all. He punches Alvarez in the ribs, then the face, and then slams his face into the windshield causing Alvarez to start bleeding as a tooth is knocked loose.

Watch the video at the site.

[Astargath]

Get your cameras installed... with direct uplinks to Google and Youtube and the Net... so that they can't easily be erased if cops grab the cameras.


After being repeatedly harassed by cops, an innocent man installed cameras which caught them beating him instead

Palo Alto, CA — Gustavo Alvarez — despite not having a criminal record — says he's been repeated harassed by Palo Alto police. So, two years ago, he had surveillance cameras installed on his home in case his fears of police harassment ever materialized on his doorstep. Earlier this year, that is exactly what happened. Only because Alvarez had these cameras installed is he a free man today.

"I wanted to have proof of what they were doing because I want them to stop harassing me," Alvarez said of why he installed the cameras.

Earlier this year, police accused Alvarez — without any evidence — of driving on a suspended license. Instead of issuing a summons or a citation, the Palo Alto police department sent a unit to Alvarez's residence. When the officer confronted Alvarez, Alvarez asked him if he saw him driving a car, to which the officer replied, "No I did not."

After realizing he was simply receiving more harassment without any evidence of a crime, Alvarez went inside his home and closed the door.

"His opinion [was] that there was no legal justification to detain him," said Alvarez's attorney Cody Salfen. "And that ended up being true because the judge at the Superior Court level found that the officers lacked reasonable suspicion to detain him."

Instead of realizing they had no legal reason to detain him, the officer called for backup and a half dozen heavily armed cops showed up at Alvarez's home — over an alleged traffic ticket. One of those cops was Sgt. Wayne Benitez who appeared to take pleasure in doling out pain to the innocent gay man.

As the video shows, police rip Alvarez from his home where he is slammed on the hood of his car. Benitez then begins punching and slamming Alvarez for no reason at all. He punches Alvarez in the ribs, then the face, and then slams his face into the windshield causing Alvarez to start bleeding as a tooth is knocked loose.

Watch the video at the site.

Low iq people have a really tough time understanding personal or individual experiences vs overall statistics, that's why feminists still insist there is a wage gap or badecker still insists police is worse than ISIS because 0.001% of police does bad things.

[BADecker]

Watch the video. It's getting safer to be attacked by gang members, than to be protected from them by cops.


Infuriating Video Shows Cops Dole Out Gang-Style Beating on Innocent 17yo Boy

In what looks like a scene out of 1930s Germany, over a dozen Fresno police department cops are seen on body camera footage raiding an apartment complex in July. They demand everyone get out of their homes and sit on the floor, treating everyone like criminals as they allegedly searched the apartment for gang members. Wallace has no ties to gangs and has never received so much as a traffic ticket.

"Attention, apartment 204, this is the Fresno Police Department. If you're inside make your presence known," and officer can be heard yelling over a bullhorn.

At this point, Wallace — who hadn't done anything wrong — was being frisked and told to sit down. As he backs up and tries to comply with the officer's order, he apparently didn't move fast enough for the tyrant cop who then shoved him.

Wallace pulled back his arm when the cop shoved him once more, which made the officer snap.

Officer Christopher Martinez then started punching Wallace in the face, over and over. As the video shows, Wallace is pleading with the officers to stop hitting him as he is not resisting and simply trying to cover his face from the punches.

As the officers pile their weight on top of Wallace, the teen cannot get off of his own arm. He tries telling the cops this, but they do not listen and instead respond with more blows to the face. Once Wallace is handcuffed, he is left crying, bleeding from his mouth, nose, and forehead.

Martinez would go on to justify this abuse and subsequent beat down by writing in his report that he thought Wallace was going to try to run away.

He would then charge Wallace with resisting arrest. Case closed.

[BADecker]

Cops Skip Class, Still Get A’s. Any Questions?

Yes! How often do they skip class?
A. Some don't go at all.

https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/267394-2019-09-01-cops-skip-class-still-get-as-any-questions.htm

http://professorconfess.blogspot.com/2019/08/cops-skip-class-still-get-as-any.html

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/investigations/2019/02/03/for-years-ut-dallas-instructors-told-officers-to-skip-class-and-the-cops-got-a-s-how-did-it-go-on-so-long/

[BADecker]

The absolute only reason cops don't simply go around killing people off more than they do (like ISIS does) is, we still have some laws that protect us from these ISIS-like monsters that many people still think are peace-keepers and public servants.


Disturbing video shows sheriff's deputies tasering a woman while she was strapped in a chair with a spit hood on - after she was arrested for allowing her service dog off its leash

Lauren Gotthelf, 34, was arrested on November 25, 2017, in Boulder, Colorado

Police gave her ticket for smoking at a mall and letting her service dog off-leash

When she refused to sign the ticket, the officer took her to Boulder County Jail  

Body cam video shows Gotthelf arguing with multiple deputies in her jail cell

Sgt Chris Reiss is then heard telling her that she will be placed on suicide watch

The sergeant claimed in the video that Gotthelf had made suicidal statements

When the deputies took Gotthelf out of her cell, they restrained her in a chair

Gotthelf appeared to be resisting the restraints when Sgt Reiss tasered her

On Tuesday, Gotthelf filed a lawsuit against Boulder County sheriff's deputies  

The sheriff's office said they have 'factual disagreements with the allegations'

Video - https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/video/backup/2019/11/06/7214385189340793672/640x360_MP4_7214385189340793672.mp4.

[PopoJeff]

Nice, never saw this thread. I'm late to the party.  This should be fun.

The latest story looks interesting.... woman escalates simple situation, becomes violent, officers have to respond with force in accordance with law. Use of force continuum to be evaluated to determine if appropriate legal force was used or exceeded.



Once every few months, one of the 900,000 officers in the US makes a questionable judgement call, based on reacting to a suspect's actions. Statistically raising huge abuse concerns for this 0.0001% rate of questionable activity.

[Spendulus]

Nice, never saw this thread. I'm late to the party.  This should be fun.

The latest story looks interesting.... woman escalates simple situation, becomes violent, officers have to respond with force in accordance with law. Use of force continuum to be evaluated to determine if appropriate legal force was used or exceeded.



Once every few months, one of the 900,000 officers in the US makes a questionable judgement call, based on reacting to a suspect's actions. Statistically raising huge abuse concerns for this 0.0001% rate of questionable activity.

Well, that's the very reason why cops train with pop up targets, in which some are innocents and some are the bad guys. But not all cops get such training. A lot of police departments only require firearm training to be one box of 50 shells at a range PER YEAR.

[BADecker]

Over 35 million hits in Google on "police brutality" search.     

[PopoJeff]

Nice, never saw this thread. I'm late to the party.  This should be fun.

The latest story looks interesting.... woman escalates simple situation, becomes violent, officers have to respond with force in accordance with law. Use of force continuum to be evaluated to determine if appropriate legal force was used or exceeded.



Once every few months, one of the 900,000 officers in the US makes a questionable judgement call, based on reacting to a suspect's actions. Statistically raising huge abuse concerns for this 0.0001% rate of questionable activity.

Well, that's the very reason why cops train with pop up targets, in which some are innocents and some are the bad guys. But not all cops get such training. A lot of police departments only require firearm training to be one box of 50 shells at a range PER YEAR.

And upwards of 95% of cops will never fire a shot at a human over their 25yr career.

But to go on, most of your information is incorrect.  Very few police train with pop-up targets. That's a rarity, and usually only seen in a few federal LE depts, and Special Forces military.  

The basic requirement is not one box of 50 "shells", it's a two part course consisting of 60 rounds fired under timed exercises between 3-25 yds, which incorporates reload and malfunction drills.   And that's just for pistol.  Required annually, most departments run it every 6 months.
   Then add in qualification courses for rifle and shotgun.  Patrol Rifle course is 40 rds, prone and kneeling at 75 & 50 yds, standing and kneeling at 50 & 25 yds, then standing 25yds and closer, with sone movement drills.
Shotgun is a total of 15 shells, 50yds and in, with 5 slug, 10 buck.

  Now, the above is just the basic minimum require to certify.  Most depts run additional drills as time/budget allow. In our case, we work 10hr shifts, and a range day is usually about 6-8 guys with two instructors.  We get thru the basic qualification courses within two hours, and spend the rest of the day running drills. We've done everything from cover to cover leapfrog drills, active school shooter drills, shooting from/at vehicle, moving targets, etc....


And for CV reference... I'm a USN Vet '90-'94, and current police officer in PA since 2002.  Current K/D ratio is 0/0

[PopoJeff]

Over 35 million hits in Google on "police brutality" search.     

And you're certain none of those hits are duplicates, factual, debunked, or false claims?

If, in 1976, you "googled" police brutality, and received no hits because the internet didn't exist, does that mean there was no police brutality back then?