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“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.”
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Probably will make it go even higher. I can not figure out the market cap as-is. Pre-mined VB runs the coin/network Forked for third party screw up Unlimited supply Going to be PoS It is truly an enigma! Any other coin would have pumped/dumped and gone by now...
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July 09, 2016, 12:03:38 AM |
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Probably will make it go even higher. I can not figure out the market cap as-is. Pre-mined VB runs the coin/network Forked for third party screw up Unlimited supply Going to be PoS It is truly an enigma! Any other coin would have pumped/dumped and gone by now... Only because cap is so high, too many delusional investors holding onto pipe dream. Unfortunately they will be the last to leave and will lose the most.
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July 09, 2016, 12:12:03 AM |
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This could just be the move some people in crypto have been waiting for. And I don't mean that in a positive sense. But we'll see what happens, the plot's twists and turns have yet to reveal itself. We are entirely focusing on Ethereum that we forgot there's a big piece in the puzzle that needs attention. Who and where is the attacker, and what are his plans?
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First they create a smart contract that I'm sure was vetted by Ethereum foundation notables. Especially since many of them were curators and invested in the DAO. Then they come up with a soft fork and quickly figure out that the attacker could spam the network, so empty blocks could go on for days or weeks. Now they are going to do a hard fork? With the way things have been playing out lately, I'm not very confident that they won't screw it up. I better go to the store and buy some more popcorn. This will be quite the show.
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July 09, 2016, 12:38:56 AM |
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Congratulations you essentially have now established the legacy banking system. A precedent has been set for ETH now. If you ever have ETH stolen or hacked, just do a HARD FORK. One time only, we promise. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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July 09, 2016, 12:59:00 AM |
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Congratulations you essentially have now established the legacy banking system. A precedent has been set for ETH now. If you ever have ETH stolen or hacked, just do a HARD FORK. One time only, we promise. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) You just have to make sure the devs are also invested and you get a guaranteed do-over!
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July 09, 2016, 01:10:45 AM |
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Ethereum may show to the world that it contains safeguards when things go wrong. The first safeguard was the smart contract’s lock in period which trapped the funds and the thief, giving the ecosystem the option to revert the theft. If this was a transaction based hack in bitcoin or ethereum, the funds would have long since dispersed in tens of thousands of addresses, making any enforcement action impossible. As counterintuitive as it is, therefore, this may show that smart contracts are actually safer. what people think of this. A possible catastrophe avoided with built in smart contract safeguards.
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July 09, 2016, 01:16:40 AM |
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All these envious persons , watch ETH do everything your faecescoin cant ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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July 09, 2016, 03:21:34 AM |
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Bankers doing what bankers do. No surprise we already knew it was all centralized anyway.
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July 09, 2016, 03:52:53 AM |
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Bankers doing what bankers do. No surprise we already knew it was all centralized anyway. This is a classic example of the fundamental weakness of proof of stake. There is no way for the blockchain to tell who is the beneficial as opposed to the nominal owner of the coins. Edit: The economic crisis of 2008 was due to a large degree to the very same weakness in fiat banking.
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July 09, 2016, 04:00:04 AM |
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Just over $10 is "soaring" ? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Your a fucking liar.. it was already at that exact price lately. People this guy WORKS for the ETHEREUM FRAUD TEAM. He is a fucking liar period . Coinmarketcap as at 22:07 GMT ETH UP 24Hr 13% DAO UP 24hr 18% Consensus wins. People like HF. Why you BTC shills care so much to spend sooo much time trying to spread your lies and FUD over hard facts. It really is strange that you care to hate. Suspicious even. You are a liar and i bet you seen my many topics around here commenting on the price lately. It has not moved (it's hovered between $10.00 & $10.50 for a week or so) ..yet you say it's soaring. THAT IS COLOSSAL MONUMENTAL DECEIT DESIGNED TO TRICK PEOPLE HERE Of course i can prove it and back up my mouth it's sitting in my post history ..as i quoted the price lately. As usual you are a liar and a fraud and are only here to scam us with ETH ICO fuel tokens. You do realize if you said something honest for once i would ignore your comment(s) right ? I HAVE to speak up when you post lies here preying on people for money (REAL money) I also have already pointed out a bunch of commentary from you that was deliberately dishonest for a clear cut financial agenda. It's one thing to lie about how big your penis is and another.. When you come here and post "Rumor has it big banks are buying shitloads of ETH to use it" Or saying after the DAO attack, ETH will be $100 a coin I could go on and on with examples. That is not FUD. That is you lying your ass off and crying FUD for bucks $$ You are a fraud .
EDIT: I feel i should speak up too because you don't stop. You have spammed the living fucking shit out of this forum section with your scammy ETH Fraud. Once you are exposed *again* You will of course wait a bit then try again. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Don't you just love bail outs?
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July 09, 2016, 05:42:22 AM |
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To new users, it should say something when Legendary and hero's speak out against something suspicious. Agreed. The disgusting vile FUD that's been spread by the haters has been pathetic. If you don't hold ETH you don't get a say in how it's run so why spread FUD? The ETH community has spoke in a landslide consensus. Bullshit, this is a COMMUNITY problem at large, not just with Eth. You claim that eth isnt BTC, yet promote it as a crypto currency, standing on the shoulders of giants in order to continue to promote what is increasingly seen as grandiose plans but garbage at the end of the day (multiple times in history). Your greed allows to buy you rose colored glasses inevitably unable to see the vast ramifications of this hard fork and the ramifications this will propagate. Or worse yet, you see it yet dont care. I am becoming increasingly pissed in how this is handled, from stern yet polite, to angry. I already made a statement about this, and you can read it here (which you wont, because either you are either a bought shill or someone so heavily invested that its against your best interests to do so) http://freepdfhosting.com/6047c65a73.pdfPicked up by some news orgs TheVerge: http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/21/11985832/ethereum-cryptocurrency-dao-theft-fork-buterinBitcoinist: http://bitcoinist.net/litecoin-assoc-director-opposes-the-dao-fork-in-open-letter/This hard fork is unprecedented, and shows how much your "leader" has failed as a leader. The amount of conflict of interest is monumental, and his failure of leadership is disgusting. The simple fact that the promotion that he and his team has done with unreliable software, failing to heed experts in other disciplines (because god forbid, someone with knowledge outside software engineering has a point), is disturbing and tantamount to get rich quick scheme. Troll, shill, or other, you have no point and I will shut your ass down faster than 186,000 miles per second. So please, respond back to me, I look forward to it. Lastly dont forget, The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks
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July 09, 2016, 08:23:33 AM |
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Congratulations you essentially have now established the legacy banking system. A precedent has been set for ETH now. If you ever have ETH stolen or hacked, just do a HARD FORK. One time only, we promise. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) lol the same approach as the debt ceiling in the USS of A?
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July 09, 2016, 08:41:12 AM |
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To new users, it should say something when Legendary and hero's speak out against something suspicious. Agreed. The disgusting vile FUD that's been spread by the haters has been pathetic. If you don't hold ETH you don't get a say in how it's run so why spread FUD? The ETH community has spoke in a landslide consensus. Bullshit, this is a COMMUNITY problem at large, not just with Eth. You claim that eth isnt BTC, yet promote it as a crypto currency, standing on the shoulders of giants in order to continue to promote what is increasingly seen as grandiose plans but garbage at the end of the day (multiple times in history). Your greed allows to buy you rose colored glasses inevitably unable to see the vast ramifications of this hard fork and the ramifications this will propagate. Or worse yet, you see it yet dont care. I am becoming increasingly pissed in how this is handled, from stern yet polite, to angry. I already made a statement about this, and you can read it here (which you wont, because either you are either a bought shill or someone so heavily invested that its against your best interests to do so) http://freepdfhosting.com/6047c65a73.pdfPicked up by some news orgs TheVerge: http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/21/11985832/ethereum-cryptocurrency-dao-theft-fork-buterinBitcoinist: http://bitcoinist.net/litecoin-assoc-director-opposes-the-dao-fork-in-open-letter/This hard fork is unprecedented, and shows how much your "leader" has failed as a leader. The amount of conflict of interest is monumental, and his failure of leadership is disgusting. The simple fact that the promotion that he and his team has done with unreliable software, failing to heed experts in other disciplines (because god forbid, someone with knowledge outside software engineering has a point), is disturbing and tantamount to get rich quick scheme. Troll, shill, or other, you have no point and I will shut your ass down faster than 186,000 miles per second. So please, respond back to me, I look forward to it. Lastly dont forget, The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks Perfect example of useless rant.
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July 09, 2016, 09:22:59 AM |
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To new users, it should say something when Legendary and hero's speak out against something suspicious. Agreed. The disgusting vile FUD that's been spread by the haters has been pathetic. If you don't hold ETH you don't get a say in how it's run so why spread FUD? The ETH community has spoke in a landslide consensus. Bullshit, this is a COMMUNITY problem at large, not just with Eth. You claim that eth isnt BTC, yet promote it as a crypto currency, standing on the shoulders of giants in order to continue to promote what is increasingly seen as grandiose plans but garbage at the end of the day (multiple times in history). Your greed allows to buy you rose colored glasses inevitably unable to see the vast ramifications of this hard fork and the ramifications this will propagate. Or worse yet, you see it yet dont care. I am becoming increasingly pissed in how this is handled, from stern yet polite, to angry. I already made a statement about this, and you can read it here (which you wont, because either you are either a bought shill or someone so heavily invested that its against your best interests to do so) http://freepdfhosting.com/6047c65a73.pdfPicked up by some news orgs TheVerge: http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/21/11985832/ethereum-cryptocurrency-dao-theft-fork-buterinBitcoinist: http://bitcoinist.net/litecoin-assoc-director-opposes-the-dao-fork-in-open-letter/This hard fork is unprecedented, and shows how much your "leader" has failed as a leader. The amount of conflict of interest is monumental, and his failure of leadership is disgusting. The simple fact that the promotion that he and his team has done with unreliable software, failing to heed experts in other disciplines (because god forbid, someone with knowledge outside software engineering has a point), is disturbing and tantamount to get rich quick scheme. Troll, shill, or other, you have no point and I will shut your ass down faster than 186,000 miles per second. So please, respond back to me, I look forward to it. Lastly dont forget, The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks Perfect example of useless rant. Indeed. I read 2 lines then filed it under the usual FUD alongside Spoetniktards. I have an ETH bag like I have a BTC bag so I couldn't care less for their BTC shilling.
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July 09, 2016, 09:25:54 AM |
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The title is misleading. Nobody ever said or directly-indirectly implied such a stupid thing u wrote in the OP. The hardfork was proposed for consideration by eth crew and doesnt mean theyre wiling to proceed with the implementation until the definitive consensus is reached. They neither said nor officially-unofficially implied that this boat should swim where loudly chanting dao bagholder wants. U do ur fucking DD and read what was posted on the slock blog: From this point on, it is up to the developers of each Ethereum client to integrate the hardfork specifications, and ultimately for the community to adopt the hard fork if and only if consensus is reached.Going further this road may raise another yet unanswered question: how about the voting quorum? What the fuck, how come a carbon ballot http://carbonvote.com/ make any sense to this when it has been said and repeated many times that hardfork would pass only when its consented to pass by 95% of miners.
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July 09, 2016, 09:43:12 AM |
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Mostly people simply dont care to vote, like myself, since i know it doesnt matter. I voted on pools when there was a vote for soft fork, but i wont vote on every obscure site thats starting a vote. However i support and i will upgrade to HF client. There are many reasons for people to fud, and i understand them : 1.daytraders, fud when they want to buy, praise / shut up when they want to sell. 2. BTC bagholders (or shitcoin holders, like smooth) fearing a rival. @Smooth, sorry darling, but monero has such a bad crypto name it doesnt even worth checking out. I'd rather invest in Coynie west. 3. Jealous people. So which one are you guys ?
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