How old is earth

[TooQik]

I'm willing to bet this man believes he's a direct descendant of a monkey living in a tree in Africa billions of years ago.

If you could see how hairy I am then you'd believe it too, although I don't like bananas....go figure!!!  

I also like the assumption that I'm a man.

[1715469143]

1715469143

[1715469143]

1715469143

[1715469143]

1715469143

[1715469143]

1715469143

[1715469143]

1715469143

[BADecker]

Another part is that the so-called mutations are programmed in.

Mutations don't happen because of the programming. The only reason mutations appear to happen is because we don't understand the programming.

So which is it? Are mutations part of the programming or not? You're either arguing against yourself or lack the ability to convey your true meaning.

Do you have eyes, but fail to see? Or can't you read? Or don't you have any reading comprehension at all?

Look at my statement that you quoted, below, right under this that I am saying right here: "Everything that we know in the universe comes about through cause and effect." Not just almost everything. Rather EVERYTHING... even the causes are effects of prior causes. This says PROGRAMMING.

Hahahaha!!!! I point out a contradiction you make to seek clarification and you launch into personal insults. 

If you can't see that your two above statements (highlighted and underlined for emphasis) contradict each other then continuing any conversation with you is pointless as you're not the type of person who can admit when they make a mistake.

You keep raising cause and effect as a reason a God must exist but yet you fail to recognize that the same argument can be used against the existence of a God.

And you fail to show any reasoning why you think that cause and effect has to apply to a God that exists outside of this cause and effect universe, especially considering that there was no cause and effect in existence before God made it specifically for this universe.

The reasoning is quite simple, for your God to have been able to have been the "cause" to "effect" the universe into existence means that cause and effect exist in the realm where your God exists.

God was the cause that caused the universe. The universe is the effect. Before God caused the universe, nobody knows if He caused anything else.

And, again, the word "before" is not really appropriate, because there is no time in eternity... before God made time in the universe. But in an attempt to get the idea across, because of our weakness in understanding, sometimes we need to use words that don't match reality.

[Dahhi]

I'm willing to bet this man believes he's a direct descendant of a monkey living in a tree in Africa billions of years ago.

If you could see how hairy I am then you'd believe it too, although I don't like bananas....go figure!!! 

I also like the assumption that I'm a man.

  You have a sense of humor.

I see you neither believe in God nor intend to believe in Him...

While I do not agree with your point of view, I will respect your decision.
Why?

Because everybody has a free will.

[BADecker]

I'm willing to bet this man believes he's a direct descendant of a monkey living in a tree in Africa billions of years ago.

If you could see how hairy I am then you'd believe it too, although I don't like bananas....go figure!!! 

I also like the assumption that I'm a man.

  You have a sense of humor.

I see you neither believe in God nor intend to believe in Him...

While I do not agree with your point of view, I will respect your decision.
Why?

Because everybody has a free will.

Right. And the sooner we all know it, the easier it will be to separate ourselves from them. I mean, we don't want to go along with them and burn.

[bitdumper]

the earth is about 59billion billion years old and I do not know exactly what will be the correct answer for it as you can find it on google but I know one think due to evolution we are here today

[BADecker]

the earth is about 59billion billion years old and I do not know exactly what will be the correct answer for it as you can find it on google but I know one think due to evolution we are here today

Well, probability math and cause and effect say that evolution doesn't work.

And regarding the age of the earth, you are wrong. You are off by 5 minutes.

[Gimpeline]

the earth is about 59billion billion years old and I do not know exactly what will be the correct answer for it as you can find it on google but I know one think due to evolution we are here today

Well, probability math and cause and effect say that evolution doesn't work.

And regarding the age of the earth, you are wrong. You are off by 5 minutes.

The math you showed had nothing to do with evolution.
Read up on what it is

[exemplaar]

the earth is about 59billion billion years old and I do not know exactly what will be the correct answer for it as you can find it on google but I know one think due to evolution we are here today

Well, probability math and cause and effect say that evolution doesn't work.

And regarding the age of the earth, you are wrong. You are off by 5 minutes.

Exclusively, Word for badecker:

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the LOGOS, the heavens were of OLD, and the flat earth standing out of the water and in the water.

So you are wrong. Earth is old and you are willingly ignorant. Case closed, no need to reply.

[Spendulus]

the earth is about 59billion billion years old and I do not know exactly what will be the correct answer for it as you can find it on google but I know one think due to evolution we are here today

Well, probability math and cause and effect say that evolution doesn't work.

And regarding the age of the earth, you are wrong. You are off by 5 minutes.

The math you showed had nothing to do with evolution.
Read up on what it is

I am fairly conversant with advanced probability and math.  In no fashion does it or "cause and effect" say that evolution does not work. 

What happens with people like Badecker is that someone who looks and acts sciency says things like this to them and they just go repeat it, not really knowing any better.

It's a shame, but that's the way it works.

[BADecker]

the earth is about 59billion billion years old and I do not know exactly what will be the correct answer for it as you can find it on google but I know one think due to evolution we are here today

Well, probability math and cause and effect say that evolution doesn't work.

And regarding the age of the earth, you are wrong. You are off by 5 minutes.

The math you showed had nothing to do with evolution.
Read up on what it is

You have two ways you can go with evolution. Either you go with cause and effect, or you go with random mutation that is not associated with cause and effect.

Random without cause and effect has never been shown to exist anywhere.

This means that evolution, whatever definition there is for it, comes about by cause and effect. Cause and effect essentially equals programming. And programming needs a programmer. In the case of evolution, the programmer is God.

There is nothing else except science fiction.

[dippididodaday]

How old do you think Earth is? Why?

I think the earth is really very very old. It's not even possible to adequately express it in human related terms. In terms of why I think it's that old I can say it's just a feeling I have - I sense the ancientness of earth you could say.

[BADecker]

How old do you think Earth is? Why?

I think the earth is really very very old. It's not even possible to adequately express it in human related terms. In terms of why I think it's that old I can say it's just a feeling I have - I sense the ancientness of earth you could say.

2 Corinthians 4:4

The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

But even the believers are blinded about things that they don't trust and believe God for - http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm.

[dippididodaday]

How old do you think Earth is? Why?

I think the earth is really very very old. It's not even possible to adequately express it in human related terms. In terms of why I think it's that old I can say it's just a feeling I have - I sense the ancientness of earth you could say.

2 Corinthians 4:4

The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

But even the believers are blinded about things that they don't trust and believe God for - http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm.

Genesis 1:27  Young's Literal Translation:

 And God prepareth the man in His image; in the image of God He prepared him, a male and a female He prepared them

Therefore I am in the image spoken of. I do see the glory of man. It's great, it's wonderful. It has opened my eyes and now I see. I see the earth is really really old.

[BADecker]

How old do you think Earth is? Why?

I think the earth is really very very old. It's not even possible to adequately express it in human related terms. In terms of why I think it's that old I can say it's just a feeling I have - I sense the ancientness of earth you could say.

2 Corinthians 4:4

The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

But even the believers are blinded about things that they don't trust and believe God for - http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm.

Genesis 1:27  Young's Literal Translation:

 And God prepareth the man in His image; in the image of God He prepared him, a male and a female He prepared them

Therefore I am in the image spoken of. I do see the glory of man. It's great, it's wonderful. It has opened my eyes and now I see. I see the earth is really really old.

Is that where you stopped reading? Right after the image of God part? Don't you remember that mankind lost the perfect image of God when sin came into the world? Only through belief in the death of Jesus, and His resurrection, is that image restored.

But we don't see that image restored right now. Why not? Because the restoration is by faith in God, for a time when God will destroy this universe and take His faithful ones to the New Universe He is preparing for us.

How do we know that the restored image is not for this life? We know it because we daily make mistakes. And nobody can keep himself/herself from death when his/her time is up.

The mistaken idea that the earth is really old, beyond the 6,200 years or so, is something that can be forgiven by God, if the ignorance of the age-of-the-earth fact is held a certain way. But it is dangerous to hold the wrong age in mind. Here is why.

You didn't actually watch the life, death and resurrection of Jesus while it was happening. You understand it by faith in God, that the words God directed His apostles and prophets to write is correct. Yet, it is only by this faith that you will be saved, because you didn't actually witness the things of the past. If you reject the words that God wrote about Jesus-salvation, you will lose your salvation. So, how is it that you can pick and choose which words of God to believe? Either you believe what God says or you don't. And if you don't believe Him about the age of the earth being about 6,200 years, why would you believe Him about Jesus-salvation? And if you don't believe Him about Jesus-salvation, you don't have salvation.

The Bible is a complex thing. Anybody can hold a mistaken understanding of some of it and be forgiven. If you mistakenly think that this explanation is not the thing that God was expressing - http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm - but that God was expressing something else by those words, then you could still be believing God, and that is what is important for you salvation.

But the words at http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm are quite clear. So don't reject them if you want to believe what God says. Otherwise you just might not believe Him for salvation, either.

[Harry Callahan]

this is quite an strange topic asked in bitcoin related forum,take a look at stones and think about how old it might be,since those matters existed as long as the earth and was formed and as old as the earth iteself,be it in solid or molten form.

[BADecker]

this is quite an strange topic asked in bitcoin related forum,take a look at stones and think about how old it might be,since those matters existed as long as the earth and was formed and as old as the earth iteself,be it in solid or molten form.

Perhaps this topic should be in the Off-topic section.

If your grandparents tell you how old the stones are, and they say that their grandparents told them, you need to believe them. Other than that, the stones are only as old as when you remember seeing them the first time. They aren't really that old at all.

The only real record we have for the age of the earth is right here http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm.

[Kotone]

How old do you think Earth is? Why?

i think no one knows how olds earth now scienetist may given the year but not the exactly because i know that its almost centuries past and still rhe earth and other planet are there except one planet i think pluto was gone long time ago right? no one can give the exact date others tells that lord created earth

[Sunfire_99]

About 500 Million Years . Lol no one knows , else God who created it .

[dippididodaday]

How old do you think Earth is? Why?

I think the earth is really very very old. It's not even possible to adequately express it in human related terms. In terms of why I think it's that old I can say it's just a feeling I have - I sense the ancientness of earth you could say.

2 Corinthians 4:4

The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

But even the believers are blinded about things that they don't trust and believe God for - http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm.

Genesis 1:27  Young's Literal Translation:

 And God prepareth the man in His image; in the image of God He prepared him, a male and a female He prepared them

Therefore I am in the image spoken of. I do see the glory of man. It's great, it's wonderful. It has opened my eyes and now I see. I see the earth is really really old.

Is that where you stopped reading? Right after the image of God part? Don't you remember that mankind lost the perfect image of God when sin came into the world? Only through belief in the death of Jesus, and His resurrection, is that image restored.

But we don't see that image restored right now. Why not? Because the restoration is by faith in God, for a time when God will destroy this universe and take His faithful ones to the New Universe He is preparing for us.

How do we know that the restored image is not for this life? We know it because we daily make mistakes. And nobody can keep himself/herself from death when his/her time is up.

The mistaken idea that the earth is really old, beyond the 6,200 years or so, is something that can be forgiven by God, if the ignorance of the age-of-the-earth fact is held a certain way. But it is dangerous to hold the wrong age in mind. Here is why.

You didn't actually watch the life, death and resurrection of Jesus while it was happening. You understand it by faith in God, that the words God directed His apostles and prophets to write is correct. Yet, it is only by this faith that you will be saved, because you didn't actually witness the things of the past. If you reject the words that God wrote about Jesus-salvation, you will lose your salvation. So, how is it that you can pick and choose which words of God to believe? Either you believe what God says or you don't. And if you don't believe Him about the age of the earth being about 6,200 years, why would you believe Him about Jesus-salvation? And if you don't believe Him about Jesus-salvation, you don't have salvation.

The Bible is a complex thing. Anybody can hold a mistaken understanding of some of it and be forgiven. If you mistakenly think that this explanation is not the thing that God was expressing - http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm - but that God was expressing something else by those words, then you could still be believing God, and that is what is important for you salvation.

But the words at http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm are quite clear. So don't reject them if you want to believe what God says. Otherwise you just might not believe Him for salvation, either.

BADecker, you are a little off track here my friend.    Once created in an image > always created in an image - it's the image of GOD. I have it, you have, every body has it. Be it distorted, twisted, contorted, bent, flipped, cracked, crushed, bruised or even broken, it still is the image of GOD, and always will be.

[gabmen]

About 500 Million Years . Lol no one knows , else God who created it .

yeah I'm not really sure how we can measure or what metrics are we going to use to know how old the earth is. and I don't think we should concern ourselves about that haha we should worry more on how to take care of this earth because it's pretty much the only one that we have