I do not endorse any website in my signature.<--Yes You Do!

[TwitchySeal]

Sorry but I never had such a stupid conversation with that TwitchySeal.
Best regards.

DUDE WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK ? YOU JUST EDITED YOUR POST AND YOU WERE NOT TOO QUICK IN DOING THAT ! I read the actual post and it was way too off or say distant from this one.Dear Roslinpl,I have not archived that post but if you you have the courtesy to post the same comments,I'd appreciate it.And I read your post like 3 times so I'm aware what its contents were.Please post the same comment you posted before editing the post.  

https://archive.is/gn6Zm

TwitchySeal is a liar and a scammer, he is  a paid troll this is what I think


I NEVER talked to him and I don't speak with such idiots.

Quote from: TwitchySeal on July 10, 2016, 03:48:43 AM
And finally, an anonymous person who seems to have been your campaign manager had a conversation with me in a google document.  Whoever it was clearly considered the fact you were joining a great success:

Code:

So Lauda (a staff member) also joined the campaign today :D
6:09 AM Jul 5
Anonymous
Anonymous 
See how you are fucking with them. Its getting no influence on their campaign. LOL!
6:09 AM Jul 5
Twitchy Seal
Twitchy Seal 
this is sad
6:11 AM Jul 5•Edit•Delete
Anonymous
Anonymous 
See his profile for solid proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=101872
6:12 AM Jul 5
Anonymous
Anonymous 
Looolllllll. A staff member joined now. You will have zero influence now. And better be careful because you will be banned by Lauda now! :D
6:13 AM Jul 5
Twitchy Seal
Twitchy Seal 
They must need the money. I hope. Hopefully they wont run around acting all shilly
6:15 AM Jul 5•Edit•Delete
Twitchy Seal
Twitchy Seal 
I will always have influence though, don't be silly, :)
6:16 AM Jul 5•Edit•Delete
Anonymous
Anonymous 
Wait and watch. I hired Lauda for our benefit ;) Now post another bullshit on our thread and get banned. hahaha
6:17 AM Jul 5
Twitchy Seal
Twitchy Seal 
I post truth, not bullshit.
6:17 AM Jul 5•Edit•Delete
Anonymous
Anonymous 
you are a bullshit troll. now fuck yourself. Or get banned by bitcointalk staff :D

No, it wasn't me Smiley Sorry Twitchy.


I think that this is my boiling point. I want you to show me any REAL PROOF that Betcoin.ag has scammed anyone.

IF anyone will show me any not fabricated proof I will be no longer the Betcoin.ag Campaign Manager and also I will remove my sig.
BUT so far after reading all of this "scam accusations" I found that none of it is real.


So far as I know the guy from your famous "Jackpot" doesn't seems to have any problem. It's only you who have a problem. Paid troll.

Thank you.

[Joel_Jantsen]

This is why Forum has an "EDIT" function so you can edit your post.

Yes it was way longer because I had enough of this TwitchySeal but I decided to edit my post because I don't need to share my feelings to you if I don't feel like I want to.

Remove the EDIT function! God damn!

That is what a 12 year old kid would say.I'm sure you're a grown up.That is now how stuff works around the world,especially when you're representing a company directly/indirectly.Though I have no interest in the case but you did mentioned that "You will quit your job as a campaign manager for betcoin if someone shows at least one proof that they have been scammed by betcoin " right ? Though these weren't your exact words but that's what it implied.And like a gentlemen I request you to stick to your words.

[Lutpin]

~snip~

Where did your signature go, if you don't mind me asking?

[roslinpl]

This is why Forum has an "EDIT" function so you can edit your post.

Yes it was way longer because I had enough of this TwitchySeal but I decided to edit my post because I don't need to share my feelings to you if I don't feel like I want to.

Remove the EDIT function! God damn!

That is what a 12 year old kid would say.I'm sure you're a grown up.That is now how stuff works around the world,especially when you're representing a company directly/indirectly.Though I have no interest in the case but you did mentioned that "You will quit your job as a campaign manager for betcoin if someone shows at least one proof that they have been scammed by betcoin " right ? Though these weren't your exact words but that's what it implied.And like a gentlemen I request you to stick to your words.

Ohh much over 30! I don't need to grow up anymore, trust me.

But you need to learn how to behave to others. Indeed my friend.

[TwitchySeal]

This is why Forum has an "EDIT" function so you can edit your post.

Yes it was way longer because I had enough of this TwitchySeal but I decided to edit my post because I don't need to share my feelings to you if I don't feel like I want to.

Remove the EDIT function! God damn!

That is what a 12 year old kid would say.I'm sure you're a grown up.That is now how stuff works around the world,especially when you're representing a company directly/indirectly.Though I have no interest in the case but you did mentioned that "You will quit your job as a campaign manager for betcoin if someone shows at least one proof that they have been scammed by betcoin " right ? Though these weren't your exact words but that's what it implied.And like a gentlemen I request you to stick to your words.

Ohh much over 30! I don't need to grow up anymore, trust me.

But you need to learn how to behave to others. Indeed my friend.

Thank you for removing the Betcoin advertisement rosilin, I know you were in a tough spot.

[cryptosmoker]

[roslinpl]

Thank you for removing the Betcoin advertisement rosilin, I know you were in a tough spot.

Oh please, Lord have a mercy,

You are trolling the Betcoin.ag just because someone has paid you for doing that or because you are mentally ill. Because you spend whole day on trolling them. This is sick I must say.
And also you are an ignorant, you cannot even write my forumname in a correct way.

(same to cryptosmoker)

My final words about you and this whole situation.

[rizzlarolla]

Thank you for removing the Betcoin advertisement rosilin, I know you were in a tough spot.

A tough spot between calling you a lying, scamming paid troll idiot, or giving up his pay cheque?

... I will be no longer the Betcoin.ag Campaign Manager ...

Oh and mentally ill now!

[TwitchySeal]

TwitchySeal is a liar and a scammer, he is  a paid troll this is what I think


I NEVER talked to him and I don't speak with such idiots.

Thank you for removing the Betcoin advertisement rosilin, I know you were in a tough spot.

Oh please, Lord have a mercy,

You are trolling the Betcoin.ag just because someone has paid you for doing that or because you are mentally ill. Because you spend whole day on trolling them. This is sick I must say.
And also you are an ignorant, you cannot even write my forumname in a correct way.

(same to cryptosmoker)

My final words about you and this whole situation.

Wow, I always assumed you just made a typo during registration.  I'm very sorry roslinpl.

[DarkDays]

IF anyone will show me any not fabricated proof I will be no longer the Betcoin.ag Campaign Manager and also I will remove my sig.

What about when Betcoin overraked their players on ALL cash game tables for a long period of time?  And then refused to refund anyone for months and finally relented and said they would refund players if they showed absolute proof that they were overraked (when they could very easily run a database parse to look for how much everyone was overraked), but they would take money AWAY from the players if they determined that the player's "benefited" from Betcoin overraking them.  They made this announcement OVER three months after the period where they stole the money from players and of course would only consider refunding players that they stole from if the player reached out and contacted them.

So they stole money, and after three months of harassment said they would refund the stolen money IF a player saw their post about it (which was immediately buried with other self promotion), and of course they threatened to take MORE money if any player asked for their money back.  This in no way shape of form can be considered anything other than a scam.  You can read about this situation in more detail in Twitchy's Scam Accusation thread or the main Betcoin thread, although this took place over a period of 5 months so I'm shocked you don't know about it.

I feel like because of what you said, it's fair to assume that you will be stepping down as the Campaign Manager within a day, right?  Gotta stick to your word.  If you don't, I think it's fair for people to neg rep you since it's obvious that you can't be trusted, right?

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Stop cramping Lauda's style.

[Quickseller]

Addressing a complaint that you are advertising what someone believes to be a scam should be your number one priority, and should take priority over anything else in your backlog of things to get done.

No, it shouldn't. The service in question would be negatively rated if it was a clear scam and that was not the case at the time (which is what I checked while entering, and after getting the PM). If I kept prioritizing things every time I got a message from a random member, I wouldn't have time to do anything.

You should not rely on other people leaving negative trust when deciding to advertise for a company. It is ultimately your moral responsibility if someone were to get scammed as a result of you advertising for such company. If you are unable, or unwilling to research a concern that you are advertising a scam on an expedited basis, or if you are unwilling to research the legitimacy of a company prior to advertising for them, then your workload should either be significantly reduced or terminated.

Betcoin also did have numerous negative ratings from multiple users several months prior to last week, all with references. I don't think it would be difficult to look into them and reasonable conclude that betcoin.ag is a very shady site.

There is no reason to make an example out of Lauda (although it appears that is what she wants currently), nor anyone else for that matter.

If you are not going to look into claims of the site you are advertising for ~4 months then it should be safe to say that you are not going to look into it at all!

How about you stop talking nonsense? I've joined Betcoin 6 days ago.

You were aware of accusations against BetCoin months ago, but between then and now you have not had a chance to look into them being legitimate prior to you starting to advertise for them.

[ajareselde]

Funny to see how staff member can be bullied out of wearing a signature. And all this done by people from competing casinos in efforts to eliminate competition.



Jason's case with jackpot was settled, and he was paid and satisfied, atleast until he wanted more money..

I am pleased to say that this matter has been resolved to my satisfaction by all parties involved. Responsibility has been taken by Betcoin.ag for lack of clarification from their customer support, Betsoft has acknowledged that the wording on the pay table may have been cause for misunderstanding with respect to jackpot eligibility. Both parties have been very helpful and cooperative in resolving this and made the necessary adjustments.

One would think that would be the end of it, but no, people have realised that they can exploit this situation and reroute traffic from betcoin.ag to them.
That's when more of opened threats started happening :

STAGE 9 SPECIAL BONUS

It's a pleasure to announce that Lutpin has a special bonus for everyone who will participate during the Stage 9
of Betcoin.ag Signature Campaign.

No worries, I will inform them why they can wear this signature. It will be better if you will do your crusade in other place. Please.

Let me then inform you that, starting the end of this month, after all of you guys are being paid by betcoin.ag, I strongly consider leaving negative feedback to everyone who continues to advertise betcoin.ag
I have nothing against any of you participants, that's the reason why I will wait with this till after your payround, but advertising betcoin.ag in their current state should not be anything acceptable on this forum.

Exception of previous STAGE

You have not to wait the end of the stage to receive your bonus.

WANT TO JOIN?

STAGE 10 SPECIAL BONUS

It's a pleasure to announce that Lutpin has a special bonus for everyone who will participate during the Stage 10
of Betcoin.ag Signature Campaign.
A nice, shiny -VE Trust rating
The trust rating runs all day, everyday, and can be seen by anyone using Depth 2+ on bitcointalk!

Let me then inform you that, starting end of the month, after all of you guys are being paid by betcoin.ag, I strongly consider leaving negative feedback to everyone who continues to advertise betcoin.ag
I have nothing against any of you participants, that's the reason why I will wait with this till after your payround, but advertising betcoin.ag in their current state should not be anything acceptable on this forum.

It's more than obvious that Lutpin, a crypto-games manager is abusing the position on DT, not to mention morale of conflict of interests in this case.

[Heutenamos]

so he has become a thug on here now ? and he decides what is acceptable on forum ?

In many countries, terms of service are not legally binding. Traders can figure out their own legal risks. The forum will not enforce terms of service.

Open a petition in Reputation. Remember you need support , you alone shouting is a waste of time. Convince all the participants.

That's why you don't give gun's to little one's cause their 2 inch cock gets erect too often.

[DarkDays]

so he has become a thug on here now ? and he decides what is acceptable on forum ?

In many countries, terms of service are not legally binding. Traders can figure out their own legal risks. The forum will not enforce terms of service.

Open a petition in Reputation. Remember you need support , you alone shouting is a waste of time. Convince all the participants.

That's why you don't give gun's to little one's cause their 2 inch cock gets erect too often.

I have no clue what you are trying to say because you are mixing horrible metaphors, but I wouldn't count on theymos supporting Betcoin anytime soon.

5 @ 0.9

Sorry, but you currently have negative trust from my perspective, so I will not accept your bid.

[thesame12]

Funny to see how staff member can be bullied out of wearing a signature. And all this done by people from competing casinos in efforts to eliminate competition.



Jason's case with jackpot was settled, and he was paid and satisfied, atleast until he wanted more money..

Prove it, Twitchy may have a signature on his profile, but that's not even related to gambling. The accusations made by TwitchySeal against Betcoin has been supplemented with evidence to my satisfaction. Edit: I'm just wondering why how this is about the forum at all(this is me assumign what meta is about.) Edit2: sorry for the amounts of edits I did to this post. Edit3: Also, the second part's redundant considering that's the money that he was supposed to be owed for winning the jackpot.

[Heutenamos]

Edit: I'm just wondering why how this is about the forum at all

Correct. Nobody other then theymos has rights to say what is acceptable or not . The signature campaign & casino is their service & as clearly stated by the admin the forum doesn't has any TOS on how to.

If some idiot thinks that theymos is not advertising them & hence it is not acceptable on forum then its obvious that his senseless brain is not able to understand anything of logic. Theymos could actually waste all the ad spots, it's his call.

The negative rating is because you think the person is shady etc etc.. not just because u think it is unacceptable on forum llol lol lol.You are definitely not the one to decide that.

as we all have seen blazed was enjoying the drama & the only solution to ajareselde or participants problem is by making an appeal to remove the person from Default.

[TwitchySeal]

Edit: I'm just wondering why how this is about the forum at all

Correct. Nobody other then theymos has rights to say what is acceptable or not . The signature campaign & casino is their service & as clearly stated by the admin the forum doesn't has any TOS on how to.

If some idiot thinks that theymos is not advertising them & hence it is not acceptable on forum then its obvious that his senseless brain is not able to understand anything of logic. Theymos could actually waste all the ad spots, it's his call.

The negative rating is because you think the person is shady etc etc.. not just because u think it is unacceptable on forum llol lol lol.You are definitely not the one to decide that.

as we all have seen blazed was enjoying the drama & the only solution to ajareselde or participants problem is by making an appeal to remove the person from Default.

Users should be held responsible for who they choose to advertise on this forum.  

Thats the point I'm trying to make in this thread.

Signature campaigns give sites credibility.  So does advertising on this forum through paid ads.  The fact that Theymos denied Betcoin.ag from advertising on this forum is totally relevant information that should be considered when making your own opinion on the situation.  But in the end, we each have our own opinion of the situation and have the right to leave whatever trust we see fit.

Personally I don't think "I don't know enough about the site thats paying me to advertise for them to decide whether or not they are trustworthy" is a valid defense for advertising a questionable site.

If anyone has a problem with Lutpin, please research Betcoin.ag before jumping to the conclusion that he's just being a bully here for his own enjoyment.  Betcoin.ag has refused to address numerous serious issues for over a year now. For the past 9 months they have usedtheir signature campaign to create the illusion that they are transparent and willing to answer any and all questions.  When, in reality, they are ignoring many of the real players on their site.

If anyone has any questions about the issues, please ask me or anyone familiar with the world of online poker/gambling to clarify.

[botany]

Signature campaigns give sites credibility.  So does advertising on this forum through paid ads.  The fact that Theymos denied Betcoin.ag from advertising on this forum is totally relevant information that should be considered when making your own opinion on the situation.  But in the end, we each have our own opinion of the situation and have the right to leave whatever trust we see fit.

Just a small point. Theymos did not accept ads from bitmixer. But Bitmixer's signature campaign is alive and kicking.
The forum did carry ads of Bitcoin Black Friday, which turned out to be a scam.
So we shouldn't be linking everything to the forum's ad policy.

[Heutenamos]

Signature campaigns give sites credibility.  So does advertising on this forum through paid ads.  The fact that Theymos denied Betcoin.ag from advertising on this forum is totally relevant information that should be considered when making your own opinion on the situation.  But in the end, we each have our own opinion of the situation and have the right to leave whatever trust we see fit.

Just a small point. Theymos did not accept ads from bitmixer. But Bitmixer's signature campaign is alive and kicking.
The forum did carry ads of Bitcoin Black Friday, which turned out to be a scam.
So we shouldn't be linking everything to the forum's ad policy.

Exactly. What theymos does is his call, not mine & not anybody Else's. Someone is a fan of him ? sure follow him but don't censor others to do it too.
Fortune jack openly lied about their video contest & didn't payed the 50+ btc bonuses but nobody has problems with them. Their campaign runs smoothly too.

'Extorting participants & saying what is acceptable and what is not' is not your right.What duties do you fulfill so you get the rights to say me what is wrong or what is acceptable ? do u pay my taxes ? do u pay my rent ? do u pay forum bills ? do u pay forum taxes ? do you come and speak in the court for me ? updating that fucking signature thread are your Duties ? are you even fucking serious ?