dustboy
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July 14, 2016, 01:26:16 AM |
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This happened again? Someone has to provide his data to be able to withdrawal his balance? Hatesatoshi got the same problem before and he got his balance after sent his data to primedice owner!
Sounds a bit weird for anonymous gambling site, perhaps they need to do it to avoid something that may drain their bankroll. Is PD has any terms regarding big win should provide kyc verification?
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RichGang
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July 14, 2016, 04:36:55 AM |
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This happened again? Someone has to provide his data to be able to withdrawal his balance? Hatesatoshi got the same problem before and he got his balance after sent his data to primedice owner!
That was stupid of him. Thats cyber bully at its best. Why the fuck must he submit his id. Stunna might send assassins to kill him and get his cash or just Rob him. Primedice is unlicenced. They have no right to collect peoples id
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kitticat (OP)
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July 14, 2016, 06:34:06 AM |
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That was stupid of him. Thats cyber bully at its best. Why the fuck must he submit his id. Stunna might send assassins to kill him and get his cash or just Rob him. Primedice is unlicenced. They have no right to collect peoples id
these craps are really asswholes. do cumshot each other. and these suckers now explore themself as scammers. dont trust them and dont do any high rolls. 80>0.01=provably fair 0.01>80=cheated. this is bitches fair
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AfricaLife
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July 14, 2016, 11:24:28 AM |
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How much exactly did you win from PD? How large were your original deposit(s)? Are you using TOR/VPN?
any of this rly matter or necessary as long as if he didnt cheat or use any exploit? Well if he did in some way cheat they might not be able to detect it right away. Hufflepuff was able to use an exploit that was undetected for a long time after he stopped playing under that name. It is a she btw, and who the hell needs information for no reason?
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RichGang
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July 14, 2016, 11:41:22 AM |
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That was stupid of him. Thats cyber bully at its best. Why the fuck must he submit his id. Stunna might send assassins to kill him and get his cash or just Rob him. Primedice is unlicenced. They have no right to collect peoples id
these craps are really asswholes. do cumshot each other. and these suckers now explore themself as scammers. dont trust them and dont do any high rolls. 80>0.01=provably fair 0.01>80=cheated. this is bitches fair Yeah thats their idea of provably fair, idiots like nlco will rant provably fair if u go from 80btc to 0.01. Fuck these assholes
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HrN
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July 14, 2016, 01:18:16 PM |
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LOOOOOL !! Amazing. Why you ask him for his personal data? why you need his ID? You want to blackmail him or why? He won ! Give him the bitcoins back ! Don't scamm him. I won +3 bitcoins with 0.2 btc in 3 hours... he won 80 btc... where is the problem?
I lost few days ago 8 bitcoins and i don't asked you WHY I LOST THEM !
Don't be scammer, stunna !
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MarkMJ
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July 14, 2016, 01:20:05 PM |
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Edward had reason to suspect you for other reasons than you turning 0.01 into 80 coins there was an unusual circumstance to do with your win otherwise. He held your cashout and asked for additional information (not something I would have done personally but I stand by it) so he could in good mind process your withdrawal. There has never been a situation where we required information in order to push a withdrawal, only to potentially speed up. Your win is under investigation and will be paid if no foul play is found, if you had provided information it would have been processed on the spot.
In the past Ed did this with a user hufflepuff who refused to give information, he was cashed out for 2400 in wins despite not providing information. You were sent half your payment and I ask that you remain patient for the remainder while we investigate your case. I'll also be discussing this matter with Edward as I think him asking for that sort of information is not useful regardless and it sets a bad precedent.
You will likely be paid within the day
Hello dear, Do you see how many threads are with Primedice scam? Why don't you do something? Me personally I trust Primedice but I will stop doing that.
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I'm RED and that's GOOD, i will never be GREEN and that's not BAD! there's no one i'd rather be than me. DEV for cryptocurrency but I HATE forks
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robinH
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July 14, 2016, 01:37:40 PM |
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Primedice do the right thing and pay the OP his winnings. We don't see you investigating yourselves when you win large amounts of coins from players. It's been more than the 24 hrs you promised. I guess provably fair only works in one direction. ...
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MarkMJ
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July 14, 2016, 02:25:13 PM Last edit: July 14, 2016, 04:07:57 PM by MarkMJ |
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stunna do you get the point?
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DO you get MY POINT?
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I'm RED and that's GOOD, i will never be GREEN and that's not BAD! there's no one i'd rather be than me. DEV for cryptocurrency but I HATE forks
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Stunna
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July 14, 2016, 06:42:35 PM |
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I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.
I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.
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Dyatrev
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July 14, 2016, 06:45:32 PM |
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I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow.
oh and lets hear what kekeke gonna say about this
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hermanhs09
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July 14, 2016, 07:30:20 PM |
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Edward just wanted to make some friends i guess or he might have consumed one too many vodka shots Anyways, personally never had any issues withdrawing from primedice. If withdrawal amounts are big and deposit amounts are from a mixer, i think they have the right to inquire. Just my 2cents Owners of gambling site shouldn't care from where you have money. If they care why Nizam deposit and withdraw from PD many times without any issue? If you dont know nizam just read about him. He scam+200BTC from bitcoin users and +50BTC from pd users. For me primedice lost all reputation. It is stupid to say that primedice already lost reputation. I dont think so,because if someone wins really big,they just want to make sure he is not scamming. Also there was no cases like this before.
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RichGang
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July 14, 2016, 08:17:52 PM |
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I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.
I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.
Wtf. What a smelling fuckkkkkk. Everytime someone wins big u come up with this shit. i have seen people loose hundreds of btc on your fuckn site. I saw a guy even loose 120btc on 85%chance of winning. Can I fuckn tell us what expliot u used to scamm him? ?
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July 14, 2016, 09:16:31 PM |
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I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.
I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.
Wtf. What a smelling fuckkkkkk. Everytime someone wins big u come up with this shit. i have seen people loose hundreds of btc on your fuckn site. I saw a guy even loose 120btc on 85%chance of winning. Can I fuckn tell us what expliot u used to scamm him? ? 1. A 15% chance of losing is still a chance of losing. Any non-zero chance that can happen eventually will. 2. Of course people lose money. There's a house edge, after all. Primedice needs to make a profit somehow. 3. Why don't you wait tomorrow to see if OP returns the funds or when Stunna brings forth their evidence? Either way, it will show that OP was attempting to cheat Primedice.
That was stupid of him. Thats cyber bully at its best. Why the fuck must he submit his id. Stunna might send assassins to kill him and get his cash or just Rob him. Primedice is unlicenced. They have no right to collect peoples id
Why would they even bother sending assassins? That's a wild imagination you have there. There's a million things that can be refuted towards those statements. Besides, Primedice hardly needs to "send assassins to kill him". If there's evidence of foul play, then internet history can be tracked and linked to them. As well as this, they make enough money on a daily basis, as you've previously mentioned (angrily towards them).
Also, OP has still yet to respond (with an answer that provides evidence) to my questions that I'd asked multiple times: Did you lose any of your deposits in that timeframe? Do you have transaction ID's to prove that you deposited? (As irrelevant as this question may seem, it carries some weight)
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RichGang
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July 14, 2016, 10:11:06 PM |
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I can imagin anyting I want. Yes asking someone for id could be so they track and kill or rob him. They have be en valid cases of similar things happening. If someone could go from 130btc to 0btc, why cant someone go from 0.01 btc to 80 btv or more. Why apply the logic on one side only. Dosnt matter if those scammers pay or not. There are still scammers. People win bigger amounds on betking and jd and I dont har this shit
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HeyYouGuys
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July 14, 2016, 10:35:24 PM |
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I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.
I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.
I'm simply curious. Stunna, you've been at this how many years?
PD4 didnt change anything. You added a "animation script slider", changed colors, and moved the elements, chat area, and menu options around.
Nothing server wise, in terms of seeds, hashes, back end, encryption, or even the layout for betting changed- at all.
How is it that people are able to exploit a site thats been running for 3 years, and has made God knows how much money.
I say publicity stunt. Just like Hufflepuff. It's all smoke and mirrors folks. Exploit? Seriously. There are no exploits.
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July 14, 2016, 10:38:27 PM |
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I can imagin anyting I want. Yes asking someone for id could be so they track and kill or rob him. They have be en valid cases of similar things happening. If someone could go from 130btc to 0btc, why cant someone go from 0.01 btc to 80 btv or more. Why apply the logic on one side only. Dosnt matter if those scammers pay or not. There are still scammers. People win bigger amounds on betking and jd and I dont har this shit
Yea, it's like when you are playing 2x and you get 27 reds in a row. They say "you were unlucky". But if you were betting with double on win, as in, stack your winnings into next bet, and started with just 0.00000010 and got 27 greens. They would say "Impossible. Exploit!". Yet the odds, roughly the same. The payout. More than 80BTC.
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actmyname
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July 14, 2016, 11:08:23 PM |
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I can imagin anyting I want. Yes asking someone for id could be so they track and kill or rob him. They have be en valid cases of similar things happening. If someone could go from 130btc to 0btc, why cant someone go from 0.01 btc to 80 btv or more. Why apply the logic on one side only. Dosnt matter if those scammers pay or not. There are still scammers. People win bigger amounds on betking and jd and I dont har this shit
Yea, it's like when you are playing 2x and you get 27 reds in a row. They say "you were unlucky". But if you were betting with double on win, as in, stack your winnings into next bet, and started with just 0.00000010 and got 27 greens. They would say "Impossible. Exploit!". Yet the odds, roughly the same. The payout. More than 80BTC. It's a 1 in ~102,596,558 chance to get 27 reds in a row. But you don't bet just once, do you? No. You bet multiple times. Hence, more possibilities to lose. It's a 1 in ~176,059,567 chance to get 27 greens in a row. But you don't get more than one chance. If you falter on that 49.5% win rate on any of your 27 bets, you lose. Do you see the difference in odds? More a 70% difference. 70% rarer to get greens than reds. This is the house edge. This is statistics. Every single wager you place returns you [statistically] 99% of what you wagered (given this h.e.). Example: You bet 1 BTC on 50% twice. You win once and you lose once. You get 0.98 BTC back. You gained 1.98 BTC on the winning bet, and you lost 1 BTC on the losing bet. You "broke even" but still lost. Yet the odds, roughly the same. The payout. More than 80BTC.
The odds are not roughly the same. Nowhere near. Continuing on, the odds for red would only increase as you bet more and more. This is not an opinionated answer. These are raw facts. Continue your ignorance, or face the fact that you don't understand how "provably fair" works.
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July 14, 2016, 11:10:37 PM |
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I can imagin anyting I want. Yes asking someone for id could be so they track and kill or rob him. They have be en valid cases of similar things happening. If someone could go from 130btc to 0btc, why cant someone go from 0.01 btc to 80 btv or more. Why apply the logic on one side only. Dosnt matter if those scammers pay or not. There are still scammers. People win bigger amounds on betking and jd and I dont har this shit
Yea, it's like when you are playing 2x and you get 27 reds in a row. They say "you were unlucky". But if you were betting with double on win, as in, stack your winnings into next bet, and started with just 0.00000010 and got 27 greens. They would say "Impossible. Exploit!". Yet the odds, roughly the same. The payout. More than 80BTC. It's a 1 in ~102,596,558 chance to get 27 reds in a row. But you don't bet just once, do you? No. You bet multiple times. Hence, more possibilities to lose. It's a 1 in ~176,059,567 chance to get 27 greens in a row. But you don't get more than one chance. If you falter on that 49.5% win rate on any of your 27 bets, you lose. Do you see the difference in odds? More a 70% difference. 70% rarer to get greens than reds. This is the house edge. This is statistics. Every single wager you place returns you [statistically] 99% of what you wagered (given this h.e.). Example: You bet 1 BTC on 50% twice. You win once and you lose once. You get 0.98 BTC back. You gained 1.98 BTC on the winning bet, and you lost 1 BTC on the losing bet. You "broke even" but still lost. Yet the odds, roughly the same. The payout. More than 80BTC.
The odds are not roughly the same. Nowhere near. Continuing on, the odds for red would only increase as you bet more and more. This is not an opinionated answer. These are raw facts. Continue your ignorance, or face the fact that you don't understand how "provably fair" works. ^^This.^^
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Dyatrev
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July 14, 2016, 11:14:54 PM |
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I can imagin anyting I want. Yes asking someone for id could be so they track and kill or rob him. They have be en valid cases of similar things happening. If someone could go from 130btc to 0btc, why cant someone go from 0.01 btc to 80 btv or more. Why apply the logic on one side only. Dosnt matter if those scammers pay or not. There are still scammers. People win bigger amounds on betking and jd and I dont har this shit
Yea, it's like when you are playing 2x and you get 27 reds in a row. They say "you were unlucky". But if you were betting with double on win, as in, stack your winnings into next bet, and started with just 0.00000010 and got 27 greens. They would say "Impossible. Exploit!". Yet the odds, roughly the same. The payout. More than 80BTC. It's a 1 in ~102,596,558 chance to get 27 reds in a row. But you don't bet just once, do you? No. You bet multiple times. Hence, more possibilities to lose. It's a 1 in ~176,059,567 chance to get 27 greens in a row. But you don't get more than one chance. If you falter on that 49.5% win rate on any of your 27 bets, you lose. Do you see the difference in odds? More a 70% difference. 70% rarer to get greens than reds. This is the house edge. This is statistics. Every single wager you place returns you [statistically] 99% of what you wagered (given this h.e.). Example: You bet 1 BTC on 50% twice. You win once and you lose once. You get 0.98 BTC back. You gained 1.98 BTC on the winning bet, and you lost 1 BTC on the losing bet. You "broke even" but still lost. Yet the odds, roughly the same. The payout. More than 80BTC.
The odds are not roughly the same. Nowhere near. Continuing on, the odds for red would only increase as you bet more and more. This is not an opinionated answer. These are raw facts. Continue your ignorance, or face the fact that you don't understand how "provably fair" works. those genious are killing me provably fair has nothing what you explained it just means your roll outcomes can be proven thats all why messing with house edge or billion possibility
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