[Primedice] Beware Guyz, Scamming HR!!!!!!

[kitticat]

Beware Guyz If u Won Some Here.

U Will be forced to tell your personal details. if u want to ur withdraw amt.

The most popularity get for bitcoin, bcoz of anonymous. But these admins don't know that.

They imagine like they are running a bank, and asking my personal details. forgot a gambling site

some amount from the Gambling, should not be spent open to public.u must be anonymous, if not then u want to face govt.

asked him straight, will i get my withdraw or not. no answer from him. He is silent

EDIT: I didnt use PS. it is reply from Edward Miroslav (edward@primedice.com)
EDIT2: They said like ive rocket launch from 0.01 to 80. think that they dnt have normal eyes i have done more dep. after nd got the 80
EDIT3: muted from the chat
EDIT4: deducted around 1 btc from my account now. Removed the trace of pending withdraw from withdraw option
EDIT5: What Next? You didnt withdraw anything?

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[sonnysurya]

he should not ask that kind of questions.
by the way, how much you want to withdraw?

[james.lent]

Edward just wanted to make some friends i guess or he might have consumed one too many vodka shots

Anyways, personally never had any issues withdrawing from primedice. If withdrawal amounts are big and deposit amounts are from a mixer, i think they have the right to inquire. Just my 2cents

[Grab]

Edward just wanted to make some friends i guess or he might have consumed one too many vodka shots

Anyways, personally never had any issues withdrawing from primedice. If withdrawal amounts are big and deposit amounts are from a mixer, i think they have the right to inquire. Just my 2cents

Owners of gambling site shouldn't care from where you have money. If they care why Nizam deposit and withdraw from PD many times without any issue? If you dont know nizam just read about him. He scam+200BTC from bitcoin users and +50BTC from pd users.
For me primedice lost all reputation.

[onlinedragon]

Did you also take part in there giveaways or was it only money you deposit. Never heard before they send such emails to there users. Normally they never ask such personal information and wonder if it's really good for a Bitcoin gambling website to ask such information. But possible they have a really good reason to start asking this using a mixer make things more suspicious.

[Lutpin]

For me primedice lost all reputation.

Over one user posting screenshots? Oh, please.

Edward just wanted to make some friends i guess or he might have consumed one too many vodka shots

Yeah, or maybe he just started EdSurveyWard LLC.

U Will be forced to tell your personal details. if u want to ur withdraw amt.
The most popularity get for bitcoin, bcoz of anonymous. But these admins don't know that

This sounds hardly like any of the practices primedice uses and the formulation of this mails is odd aswell.
I wouldn't be surprised if they turn out to be fake in some way.

[robinH]

For me primedice lost all reputation.

Over one user posting screenshots? Oh, please.

Edward just wanted to make some friends i guess or he might have consumed one too many vodka shots

Yeah, or maybe he just started EdSurveyWard LLC.

It's a serious concern. They are wrong to ask for dox.

[janggernaut]

Beware Guyz If u Won Some Here.

U Will be forced to tell your personal details. if u want to ur withdraw amt.

The most popularity get for bitcoin, bcoz of anonymous. But these admins don't know that.

They imagine like they are running a bank, and asking my personal details. And they forgot they are running a gambling site

some amount from the Gambling, should not be spent open to public. then u may want to face from govt.

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Its weird from someone whos "owner" of primedice would ask question like that. Its very OOT, you asked why your wd still pending, but "edward" answered with question just like for newbie on bitcoin world

[Dank Frank]

They did the same with 'hatesatoshi' they asked a proof of ID and residence and everything.

Once you win big in PD they don't care that they advertise with anonymous gambling site.

[Quickseller]

How much exactly did you win from PD? How large were your original deposit(s)? Are you using TOR/VPN?

[Dyatrev]

How much exactly did you win from PD? How large were your original deposit(s)? Are you using TOR/VPN?

any of this rly matter or necessary as long as if he didnt cheat or use any exploit?

[Quickseller]

How much exactly did you win from PD? How large were your original deposit(s)? Are you using TOR/VPN?

any of this rly matter or necessary as long as if he didnt cheat or use any exploit?

Well if he did in some way cheat they might not be able to detect it right away. Hufflepuff was able to use an exploit that was undetected for a long time after he stopped playing under that name.

[frankmb]

How much exactly did you win from PD? How large were your original deposit(s)? Are you using TOR/VPN?

any of this rly matter or necessary as long as if he didnt cheat or use any exploit?

Well if he did in some way cheat they might not be able to detect it right away. Hufflepuff was able to use an exploit that was undetected for a long time after he stopped playing under that name.

Still not a valid reason to ask for so much info or holding his coins without explaining why.

[tigerfree]

Maybe he just want to make a friend 

[hermanhs09]

Beware Guyz If u Won Some Here.

U Will be forced to tell your personal details. if u want to ur withdraw amt.

The most popularity get for bitcoin, bcoz of anonymous. But these admins don't know that.

They imagine like they are running a bank, and asking my personal details. forgot a gambling site

some amount from the Gambling, should not be spent open to public.u must be anonymous, if not then u want to face govt.

asked him straight, will i get my withdraw or not. no answer from him. He is silent

EDIT: I didnt use PS. it is reply from Edward Miroslav (edward@primedice.com)

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Wow im just amazed?
i see something like that for a first time,never seen that pd wants to scam anyone.
Lets see how it goes further....

[Stunna]

My response here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1546299.msg15595275#msg15595275

[Zepher]

Edward had reason to suspect you for  other reasons than you turning 0.01 into 80 coins there was an unusual circumstance to do with your win otherwise. He held your cashout and asked for additional information (not something I would have done personally but I stand by it) so he could in good mind process your withdrawal. There has never been a situation where we required information in order to push a withdrawal, only to potentially speed up. Your win is under investigation and will be paid if no foul play is found, if you had provided information it would have been processed on the spot.

In the past Ed did this with a user hufflepuff who refused to give information, he was cashed out for 2400 in wins despite not providing information. You were sent half your payment and I ask that you remain patient for the remainder while we investigate your case. I'll also be discussing this matter with Edward as I think him asking for that sort of information is not useful regardless and it sets a bad precedent.

0.01BTC into 80BTC? Jesus Christ.

[mrhelpful]

How much exactly did you win from PD? How large were your original deposit(s)? Are you using TOR/VPN?

any of this rly matter or necessary as long as if he didnt cheat or use any exploit?

Well if he did in some way cheat they might not be able to detect it right away. Hufflepuff was able to use an exploit that was undetected for a long time after he stopped playing under that name.

I actually remember this.

Primedice got hit so hard it was under two different names - the other one if I remember correctly was "robinhood".

Ever since that huge hit, they have the right to be alert on everything the way I see it.

[janggernaut]

Edward had reason to suspect you for  other reasons than you turning 0.01 into 80 coins there was an unusual circumstance to do with your win otherwise. He held your cashout and asked for additional information (not something I would have done personally but I stand by it) so he could in good mind process your withdrawal. There has never been a situation where we required information in order to push a withdrawal, only to potentially speed up. Your win is under investigation and will be paid if no foul play is found, if you had provided information it would have been processed on the spot.

In the past Ed did this with a user hufflepuff who refused to give information, he was cashed out for 2400 in wins despite not providing information. You were sent half your payment and I ask that you remain patient for the remainder while we investigate your case. I'll also be discussing this matter with Edward as I think him asking for that sort of information is not useful regardless and it sets a bad precedent.

You will likely be paid within the day

Holy shit, never thought if that amount is 80 btc, and he won that just from 0.01 btc. Thanks for the clarification stunna, so we all know if hes real edward.

[RichGang]

I don't care if he cheated or not. Btc gambling is unlicenced and even coconsidered illegal. Why the fuck will an unlicenced casino try to act like a licensed one. Btc is unique for anonymity, asking anyone for id defeats that uniqueness. Am not suprised to see some of u fuckers come out to lick stunna shit openly. The only reason pd or any othersimilar btc casino will be asking u for id after a win is for them to see if they can come ROB U in person since they couldnt rob u online.
Fucker complaining of how someone won 80btc from 0.01. Dude can u also explain how people lost hundreds of btcs in ur fuckn site.??
Shit like this gets me pissed.
ANY SMART PERSON SHOULD AVOID PD FROM NOW ON. Dosnt matter if they pay him or not.
If they do that now, they will surely repeat it again.
Once again, for those of u supporting this shit like LUPTIN, ALL I CAN SAY IS FUCK U

[RichGang]

Edward had reason to suspect you for  other reasons than you turning 0.01 into 80 coins there was an unusual circumstance to do with your win otherwise. He held your cashout and asked for additional information (not something I would have done personally but I stand by it) so he could in good mind process your withdrawal. There has never been a situation where we required information in order to push a withdrawal, only to potentially speed up. Your win is under investigation and will be paid if no foul play is found, if you had provided information it would have been processed on the spot.

In the past Ed did this with a user hufflepuff who refused to give information, he was cashed out for 2400 in wins despite not providing information. You were sent half your payment and I ask that you remain patient for the remainder while we investigate your case. I'll also be discussing this matter with Edward as I think him asking for that sort of information is not useful regardless and it sets a bad precedent.

You will likely be paid within the day

Holy shit, never thought if that amount is 80 btc, and he won that just from 0.01 btc. Thanks for the clarification stunna, so we all know if hes real edward.

You are a fool. Its possible to winb10000000 btc from 0.01. And 80btc is not that big. Afterall people loose thousands of coins and fuckers like u act like its normal and fuckers like nlico come screaming provably fair. Now STUNNA , its time to GO LEARN HOW PROVABLY FAIR WORKS

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I don't gamble at all and don't know anything about primedice, but I didn't see in this thread whether all this stuff is in their TOS or not.  I realize this is the bitcoin world, but do they have regulations they have to follow?  Real physical casinos in the U.S. definitely do and you're supposed to report winnings to the irs, etc.  Just curious if anyone knows.

[Mr.Pro]

I don't gamble at all and don't know anything about primedice, but I didn't see in this thread whether all this stuff is in their TOS or not.  I realize this is the bitcoin world, but do they have regulations they have to follow?  Real physical casinos in the U.S. definitely do and you're supposed to report winnings to the irs, etc.  Just curious if anyone knows.

STFU if you dont know what you're talking about. Its not about regulations

Go whore out your signature somewhere else.

[RichGang]

I don't gamble at all and don't know anything about primedice, but I didn't see in this thread whether all this stuff is in their TOS or not.  I realize this is the bitcoin world, but do they have regulations they have to follow?  Real physical casinos in the U.S. definitely do and you're supposed to report winnings to the irs, etc.  Just curious if anyone knows.

You are right. Its not in the TOS and thats why is a scam.
Physical casinos are licenced, these scums ain't.
Physical casinos pay tax, these scums don't.
I can go on snd on.

[joksim299]

I don't gamble at all and don't know anything about primedice, but I didn't see in this thread whether all this stuff is in their TOS or not.  I realize this is the bitcoin world, but do they have regulations they have to follow?  Real physical casinos in the U.S. definitely do and you're supposed to report winnings to the irs, etc.  Just curious if anyone knows.

You are right. Its not in the TOS and thats why is a scam.
Physical casinos are licenced, these scums ain't.
Physical casinos pay tax, these scums don't.
I can go on snd on.

They should only hold coins for a reasonable period until they finish investigations if they suspect cheating was involved.
Those questions seem unreasonable they request more information than common KYC, btw whats your favourite online shop and do you like more Samsung or Apple?

[kitticat]

Hey Guys

He says, i made 80 from 0.01..nah

i just made more deposits after that, and got that 80. it is not simple to get tat. i have some coins, i just invested first 0.01 to be safe not losing big.

Am the 1 here who deposit this much small?

EDIT: They given me surprise muted me. itink tis happens to all HR

[Dyatrev]

Hey Guys

He says, i made 80 from 0.01..nah

i just made more deposits after that, and got that 80. it is not simple to get tat. i have some coins, i just invested first 0.01 to be safe not losing big.

Am the 1 here who deposit this much small?

i am sure you will get all your coins but what edward did is totaly wrong and damaged pd you cant ask anything to winners if you suspect some cheat just say we are investigating thats all who care ppl used mixer or something else (if you care so much ask them after deposit before play if answers dont satisfy you dont let them play)

[janggernaut]

Edward had reason to suspect you for  other reasons than you turning 0.01 into 80 coins there was an unusual circumstance to do with your win otherwise. He held your cashout and asked for additional information (not something I would have done personally but I stand by it) so he could in good mind process your withdrawal. There has never been a situation where we required information in order to push a withdrawal, only to potentially speed up. Your win is under investigation and will be paid if no foul play is found, if you had provided information it would have been processed on the spot.

In the past Ed did this with a user hufflepuff who refused to give information, he was cashed out for 2400 in wins despite not providing information. You were sent half your payment and I ask that you remain patient for the remainder while we investigate your case. I'll also be discussing this matter with Edward as I think him asking for that sort of information is not useful regardless and it sets a bad precedent.

You will likely be paid within the day

Holy shit, never thought if that amount is 80 btc, and he won that just from 0.01 btc. Thanks for the clarification stunna, so we all know if hes real edward.

You are a fool. Its possible to winb10000000 btc from 0.01. And 80btc is not that big. Afterall people loose thousands of coins and fuckers like u act like its normal and fuckers like nlico come screaming provably fair. STUNNA GO LEARN HOW PROVABLY FAIR WORKS

Fool? Can you made that amount from same like OP did? 0.01 -> 80 btc? If you can't, don't act like you already made decent amount from small balance.

[RichGang]

Hey Guys

He says, i made 80 from 0.01..nah

i just made more deposits after that, and got that 80. it is not simple to get tat. i have some coins, i just invested first 0.01 to be safe not losing big.

Am the 1 here who deposit this much small?

i am sure you will get all your coins but what edward did is totaly wrong and damaged pd you cant ask anything to winners if you suspect some cheat just say we are investigating thats all who care ppl used mixer or something else (if you care so much ask them after deposit before play if answers dont satisfy you dont let them play)

Best reply so far. They should stop you from playing when u deposit suspiciois coins. I he had lost all at the end, the wouldnt have said anything. This is an eye opener for HRs.  Be careful which site I go roll high

[actmyname]

Edward had reason to suspect you for  other reasons than you turning 0.01 into 80 coins there was an unusual circumstance to do with your win otherwise. He held your cashout and asked for additional information (not something I would have done personally but I stand by it) so he could in good mind process your withdrawal. There has never been a situation where we required information in order to push a withdrawal, only to potentially speed up. Your win is under investigation and will be paid if no foul play is found, if you had provided information it would have been processed on the spot.

In the past Ed did this with a user hufflepuff who refused to give information, he was cashed out for 2400 in wins despite not providing information. You were sent half your payment and I ask that you remain patient for the remainder while we investigate your case. I'll also be discussing this matter with Edward as I think him asking for that sort of information is not useful regardless and it sets a bad precedent.

You will likely be paid within the day

Holy shit, never thought if that amount is 80 btc, and he won that just from 0.01 btc. Thanks for the clarification stunna, so we all know if hes real edward.

You are a fool. Its possible to winb10000000 btc from 0.01. And 80btc is not that big. Afterall people loose thousands of coins and fuckers like u act like its normal and fuckers like nlico come screaming provably fair. STUNNA GO LEARN HOW PROVABLY FAIR WORKS

Fool? Can you made that amount from same like OP did? 0.01 -> 80 btc? If you can't, don't act like you already made decent amount from small balance.

FUCK U AND FUCK YOUR WHOLE DUMB FAMILy. I HAVE MADE MORE. I have made from 0.2 to 140btc. The fact that u are a poor dumb and sstupid gambler dosnt mean everybody is like u

You realize that although the amount you won is higher, the % increase is much greater from OP's bets?

140 / 0.2 = 700x your original deposit
80 / 0.01 = 8000x the original deposit.

If you won as many times as OP did, then you would've finished with 1600 bitcoins, more than 10x what you say that you returned with.

Even if you bet at 4950x in Primedice and then 1.617x which gives you about 8000x, that's a 0.012244% chance of happening - a 1 in 8167 chance. For someone to win at those odds and that initial deposit, it obviously seems suspicious.

You would literally be more than 5x as likely to win betting on a number twice in American roulette than you would be to win that much.

[Dyatrev]

Edward had reason to suspect you for  other reasons than you turning 0.01 into 80 coins there was an unusual circumstance to do with your win otherwise. He held your cashout and asked for additional information (not something I would have done personally but I stand by it) so he could in good mind process your withdrawal. There has never been a situation where we required information in order to push a withdrawal, only to potentially speed up. Your win is under investigation and will be paid if no foul play is found, if you had provided information it would have been processed on the spot.

In the past Ed did this with a user hufflepuff who refused to give information, he was cashed out for 2400 in wins despite not providing information. You were sent half your payment and I ask that you remain patient for the remainder while we investigate your case. I'll also be discussing this matter with Edward as I think him asking for that sort of information is not useful regardless and it sets a bad precedent.

You will likely be paid within the day

Holy shit, never thought if that amount is 80 btc, and he won that just from 0.01 btc. Thanks for the clarification stunna, so we all know if hes real edward.

You are a fool. Its possible to winb10000000 btc from 0.01. And 80btc is not that big. Afterall people loose thousands of coins and fuckers like u act like its normal and fuckers like nlico come screaming provably fair. STUNNA GO LEARN HOW PROVABLY FAIR WORKS

Fool? Can you made that amount from same like OP did? 0.01 -> 80 btc? If you can't, don't act like you already made decent amount from small balance.

FUCK U AND FUCK YOUR WHOLE DUMB FAMILy. I HAVE MADE MORE. I have made from 0.2 to 140btc. The fact that u are a poor dumb and sstupid gambler dosnt mean everybody is like u

You realize that although the amount you won is higher, the % increase is much greater from OP's bets?

140 / 0.2 = 700x your original deposit
80 / 0.01 = 8000x the original deposit.

If you won as many times as OP did, then you would've finished with 1600 bitcoins, more than 10x what you say that you returned with.

did anyone said he played with 0.01 on every bet till 80 btc?

[RichGang]

Edward had reason to suspect you for  other reasons than you turning 0.01 into 80 coins there was an unusual circumstance to do with your win otherwise. He held your cashout and asked for additional information (not something I would have done personally but I stand by it) so he could in good mind process your withdrawal. There has never been a situation where we required information in order to push a withdrawal, only to potentially speed up. Your win is under investigation and will be paid if no foul play is found, if you had provided information it would have been processed on the spot.

In the past Ed did this with a user hufflepuff who refused to give information, he was cashed out for 2400 in wins despite not providing information. You were sent half your payment and I ask that you remain patient for the remainder while we investigate your case. I'll also be discussing this matter with Edward as I think him asking for that sort of information is not useful regardless and it sets a bad precedent.

You will likely be paid within the day

Holy shit, never thought if that amount is 80 btc, and he won that just from 0.01 btc. Thanks for the clarification stunna, so we all know if hes real edward.

You are a fool. Its possible to winb10000000 btc from 0.01. And 80btc is not that big. Afterall people loose thousands of coins and fuckers like u act like its normal and fuckers like nlico come screaming provably fair. STUNNA GO LEARN HOW PROVABLY FAIR WORKS

Fool? Can you made that amount from same like OP did? 0.01 -> 80 btc? If you can't, don't act like you already made decent amount from small balance.

FUCK U AND FUCK YOUR WHOLE DUMB FAMILy. I HAVE MADE MORE. I have made from 0.2 to 140btc. The fact that u are a poor dumb and sstupid gambler dosnt mean everybody is like u

You realize that although the amount you won is higher, the % increase is much greater from OP's bets?

140 / 0.2 = 700x your original deposit
80 / 0.01 = 8000x the original deposit.

If you won as many times as OP did, then you would've finished with 1600 bitcoins, more than 10x what you say that you returned with.

Dude, I stopped. If I had continued, I would have won 80000x my original depo. My point is, its possible.
I dont even get this. If someone losses say 300btc and say he was scammed, u guys say he was unlucky and call him a sore looser. Now somr one is winning, why not call him a winner?
Ok, where is the provably shit I always here stunna dean and puppet nlcico scream??

[xetsr]

Hey Guys

He says, i made 80 from 0.01..nah

i just made more deposits after that, and got that 80. it is not simple to get tat. i have some coins, i just invested first 0.01 to be safe not losing big.

Am the 1 here who deposit this much small?

i am sure you will get all your coins but what edward did is totaly wrong and damaged pd you cant ask anything to winners if you suspect some cheat just say we are investigating thats all who care ppl used mixer or something else (if you care so much ask them after deposit before play if answers dont satisfy you dont let them play)

Best reply so far. They should stop you from playing when u deposit suspiciois coins. I he had lost all at the end, the wouldnt have said anything. This is an eye opener for HRs.  Be careful which site I go roll high

Wait, they're holding his withdrawal because of where the coin came from? All the replies above make it sound like they're holding because of suspicious activity (hack, exploit etc) on site, not the deposit itself.

[RichGang]

Edward had reason to suspect you for  other reasons than you turning 0.01 into 80 coins there was an unusual circumstance to do with your win otherwise. He held your cashout and asked for additional information (not something I would have done personally but I stand by it) so he could in good mind process your withdrawal. There has never been a situation where we required information in order to push a withdrawal, only to potentially speed up. Your win is under investigation and will be paid if no foul play is found, if you had provided information it would have been processed on the spot.

In the past Ed did this with a user hufflepuff who refused to give information, he was cashed out for 2400 in wins despite not providing information. You were sent half your payment and I ask that you remain patient for the remainder while we investigate your case. I'll also be discussing this matter with Edward as I think him asking for that sort of information is not useful regardless and it sets a bad precedent.

You will likely be paid within the day

Holy shit, never thought if that amount is 80 btc, and he won that just from 0.01 btc. Thanks for the clarification stunna, so we all know if hes real edward.

You are a fool. Its possible to winb10000000 btc from 0.01. And 80btc is not that big. Afterall people loose thousands of coins and fuckers like u act like its normal and fuckers like nlico come screaming provably fair. STUNNA GO LEARN HOW PROVABLY FAIR WORKS

Fool? Can you made that amount from same like OP did? 0.01 -> 80 btc? If you can't, don't act like you already made decent amount from small balance.

FUCK U AND FUCK YOUR WHOLE DUMB FAMILy. I HAVE MADE MORE. I have made from 0.2 to 140btc. The fact that u are a poor dumb and sstupid gambler dosnt mean everybody is like u

You realize that although the amount you won is higher, the % increase is much greater from OP's bets?

140 / 0.2 = 700x your original deposit
80 / 0.01 = 8000x the original deposit.

If you won as many times as OP did, then you would've finished with 1600 bitcoins, more than 10x what you say that you returned with.

did anyone said he played with 0.01 on every bet till 80 btc?

Thats the point they are avoiding. They tslking llike he was betting 0.01 and won till 80btc.
If he lost 80btc, these scums will say its fair

[RichGang]

BTCTHE TRUTH IS THEY ARE ASKING FOR HIS PERSONAL DETAILS SO THEY CAN GO ROB HIM SINCE THEY COULDN'T ROB HIM ONLINE

[actmyname]

Edward had reason to suspect you for  other reasons than you turning 0.01 into 80 coins there was an unusual circumstance to do with your win otherwise. He held your cashout and asked for additional information (not something I would have done personally but I stand by it) so he could in good mind process your withdrawal. There has never been a situation where we required information in order to push a withdrawal, only to potentially speed up. Your win is under investigation and will be paid if no foul play is found, if you had provided information it would have been processed on the spot.

In the past Ed did this with a user hufflepuff who refused to give information, he was cashed out for 2400 in wins despite not providing information. You were sent half your payment and I ask that you remain patient for the remainder while we investigate your case. I'll also be discussing this matter with Edward as I think him asking for that sort of information is not useful regardless and it sets a bad precedent.

You will likely be paid within the day

Holy shit, never thought if that amount is 80 btc, and he won that just from 0.01 btc. Thanks for the clarification stunna, so we all know if hes real edward.

You are a fool. Its possible to winb10000000 btc from 0.01. And 80btc is not that big. Afterall people loose thousands of coins and fuckers like u act like its normal and fuckers like nlico come screaming provably fair. STUNNA GO LEARN HOW PROVABLY FAIR WORKS

Fool? Can you made that amount from same like OP did? 0.01 -> 80 btc? If you can't, don't act like you already made decent amount from small balance.

FUCK U AND FUCK YOUR WHOLE DUMB FAMILy. I HAVE MADE MORE. I have made from 0.2 to 140btc. The fact that u are a poor dumb and sstupid gambler dosnt mean everybody is like u

You realize that although the amount you won is higher, the % increase is much greater from OP's bets?

140 / 0.2 = 700x your original deposit
80 / 0.01 = 8000x the original deposit.

If you won as many times as OP did, then you would've finished with 1600 bitcoins, more than 10x what you say that you returned with.

did anyone said he played with 0.01 on every bet till 80 btc?

Thats the point they are avoiding. They tslking llike he was betting 0.01 and won till 80btc.
If he lost 80btc, these scums will say its fair

Irrelevant with what I stated. It doesn't matter whether you played with 0.01 until 80 BTC or if you went and doubled or anything else. It's still 8000x the original deposit. At the very best, a 1 in 8167 chance when playing at Primedice. It was probably an even lower chance if they wagered more, due to house edge.

[Sharma]

BTCTHE TRUTH IS THEY ARE ASKING FOR HIS PERSONAL DETAILS SO THEY CAN GO ROB HIM SINCE THEY COULDN'T ROB HIM ONLINE

Edward is hardly asking for anything personal. He's asking for your contact details, that's all. "When and where you bought your bitcoins", that is hardly related to the topic.

If he asks for your ID, then that wouldn't be very appropriate. But he's just asking you simple info mate.

[Dyatrev]

Hey Guys

He says, i made 80 from 0.01..nah

i just made more deposits after that, and got that 80. it is not simple to get tat. i have some coins, i just invested first 0.01 to be safe not losing big.

Am the 1 here who deposit this much small?

i am sure you will get all your coins but what edward did is totaly wrong and damaged pd you cant ask anything to winners if you suspect some cheat just say we are investigating thats all who care ppl used mixer or something else (if you care so much ask them after deposit before play if answers dont satisfy you dont let them play)

Best reply so far. They should stop you from playing when u deposit suspiciois coins. I he had lost all at the end, the wouldnt have said anything. This is an eye opener for HRs.  Be careful which site I go roll high

Wait, they're holding his withdrawal because of where the coin came from? All the replies above make it sound like they're holding because of suspicious activity (hack, exploit etc) on site, not the deposit itself.

otherwise would they ask why did you use mixer?

they have to investigate anything related to provably fair game but rest which include coins origins is not their business(at least if they dont care when stolen/hacked/scammed coins went to their pocket they shouldnt care reverse if no cheat found at provably fair game)

[RichGang]

BTCTHE TRUTH IS THEY ARE ASKING FOR HIS PERSONAL DETAILS SO THEY CAN GO ROB HIM SINCE THEY COULDN'T ROB HIM ONLINE

Edward is hardly asking for anything personal. He's asking for your contact details, that's all. "When and where you bought your bitcoins", that is hardly related to the topic.

If he asks for your ID, then that wouldn't be very appropriate. But he's just asking you simple info mate.

Dude read again, he asked for ID,
And why ask where btc is gotten after winning. Why not ask when depositing

[Dyatrev]

Edward had reason to suspect you for  other reasons than you turning 0.01 into 80 coins there was an unusual circumstance to do with your win otherwise. He held your cashout and asked for additional information (not something I would have done personally but I stand by it) so he could in good mind process your withdrawal. There has never been a situation where we required information in order to push a withdrawal, only to potentially speed up. Your win is under investigation and will be paid if no foul play is found, if you had provided information it would have been processed on the spot.

In the past Ed did this with a user hufflepuff who refused to give information, he was cashed out for 2400 in wins despite not providing information. You were sent half your payment and I ask that you remain patient for the remainder while we investigate your case. I'll also be discussing this matter with Edward as I think him asking for that sort of information is not useful regardless and it sets a bad precedent.

You will likely be paid within the day

Holy shit, never thought if that amount is 80 btc, and he won that just from 0.01 btc. Thanks for the clarification stunna, so we all know if hes real edward.

You are a fool. Its possible to winb10000000 btc from 0.01. And 80btc is not that big. Afterall people loose thousands of coins and fuckers like u act like its normal and fuckers like nlico come screaming provably fair. STUNNA GO LEARN HOW PROVABLY FAIR WORKS

Fool? Can you made that amount from same like OP did? 0.01 -> 80 btc? If you can't, don't act like you already made decent amount from small balance.

FUCK U AND FUCK YOUR WHOLE DUMB FAMILy. I HAVE MADE MORE. I have made from 0.2 to 140btc. The fact that u are a poor dumb and sstupid gambler dosnt mean everybody is like u

You realize that although the amount you won is higher, the % increase is much greater from OP's bets?

140 / 0.2 = 700x your original deposit
80 / 0.01 = 8000x the original deposit.

If you won as many times as OP did, then you would've finished with 1600 bitcoins, more than 10x what you say that you returned with.

did anyone said he played with 0.01 on every bet till 80 btc?

Thats the point they are avoiding. They tslking llike he was betting 0.01 and won till 80btc.
If he lost 80btc, these scums will say its fair

Irrelevant with what I stated. It doesn't matter whether you played with 0.01 until 80 BTC or if you went and doubled or anything else. It's still 8000x the original deposit. At the very best, a 1 in 8167 chance when playing at Primedice. It was probably an even lower chance if they wagered more, due to house edge.

genius can you calculate 32 red on 2x pls?

[Quickseller]

How much exactly did you win from PD? How large were your original deposit(s)? Are you using TOR/VPN?

any of this rly matter or necessary as long as if he didnt cheat or use any exploit?

Well if he did in some way cheat they might not be able to detect it right away. Hufflepuff was able to use an exploit that was undetected for a long time after he stopped playing under that name.

Still not a valid reason to ask for so much info or holding his coins without explaining why.

I disagree. PD has every right to ask questions when they come across something they deem to be suspicious. Just as they have the right to investigate. I would not find it to be especially out of the ordinary if a large withdrawal was delayed a few days, and don't think it is uncommon for a withdrawal to be delayed by sites for several hours.

From the looks of it, Edward is trying to find a person he can sue in the event that an investigation reveals that an exploit was used.

you turning 0.01 into 80 coins

That is crazy.

I don't care if he cheated or not.

I am pretty sure that PD cares if the OP cheated. They have no reason to pay him if in fact he did cheat.

Dude can u also explain how people lost hundreds of btcs in ur fuckn site.??

It is trivial for any player to verify every one of their loosing bets to ensure that the bet was fair. The player can verify that the outcome of the roll was decided prior to the bet being made, which would result in it being impossible for the casino to cheat the player as long as they verify their bets.

Afterall people loose thousands of coins and fuckers like u act like its normal and fuckers like nlico come screaming provably fair. Now STUNNA , its time to GO LEARN HOW PROVABLY FAIR WORKS

It is trivial to prove that the casino did not cheat the player via provably fair, however it is much more difficult to prove the player did not cheat the casino via provably fair. The casino not getting cheated depends on them being able to keep the "server seed" secret, however it is very difficult to tell if a player was somehow able to "figure out" the server seed.

--snip--

Out of curiosity, are you an alt of robertt?

[Dyatrev]

How much exactly did you win from PD? How large were your original deposit(s)? Are you using TOR/VPN?

any of this rly matter or necessary as long as if he didnt cheat or use any exploit?

Well if he did in some way cheat they might not be able to detect it right away. Hufflepuff was able to use an exploit that was undetected for a long time after he stopped playing under that name.

Still not a valid reason to ask for so much info or holding his coins without explaining why.

I disagree. PD has every right to ask questions when they come across something they deem to be suspicious. Just as they have the right to investigate. I would not find it to be especially out of the ordinary if a large withdrawal was delayed a few days, and don't think it is uncommon for a withdrawal to be delayed by sites for several hours.

From the looks of it, Edward is trying to find a person he can sue in the event that an investigation reveals that an exploit was used.

you turning 0.01 into 80 coins

That is crazy.

I don't care if he cheated or not.

I am pretty sure that PD cares if the OP cheated. They have no reason to pay him if in fact he did cheat.

Dude can u also explain how people lost hundreds of btcs in ur fuckn site.??

It is trivial for any player to verify every one of their loosing bets to ensure that the bet was fair. The player can verify that the outcome of the roll was decided prior to the bet being made, which would result in it being impossible for the casino to cheat the player as long as they verify their bets.

Afterall people loose thousands of coins and fuckers like u act like its normal and fuckers like nlico come screaming provably fair. Now STUNNA , its time to GO LEARN HOW PROVABLY FAIR WORKS

It is trivial to prove that the casino did not cheat the player via provably fair, however it is much more difficult to prove the player did not cheat the casino via provably fair. The casino not getting cheated depends on them being able to keep the "server seed" secret, however it is very difficult to tell if a player was somehow able to "figure out" the server seed.

--snip--

Out of curiosity, are you an alt of robertt?

anyone know stunnas or edwards a info which be used for sue if they scam anyone?

[Quickseller]

anyone know stunnas or edwards a info which be used for sue if they scam anyone?

I am pretty sure that Edward's info is fairly public. I am not as sure about Stunna's information.

I came across Edward's FB profile several months ago (maybe a year+) when PD was running some kind of FB giveaway, and there was a fairly decent amount of publicly available information there. Not only that but PD has been around for long enough and has been entrusted with enough money to reasonably say that they can be trusted with fairly large amounts of money, and if you don't trust them with your money, or if you don't trust them to be fair, then you do not have to play at PD.....they do not have that option.

[Dyatrev]

anyone know stunnas or edwards a info which be used for sue if they scam anyone?

I am pretty sure that Edward's info is fairly public. I am not as sure about Stunna's information.

I came across Edward's FB profile several months ago (maybe a year+) when PD was running some kind of FB giveaway, and there was a fairly decent amount of publicly available information there. Not only that but PD has been around for long enough and has been entrusted with enough money to reasonably say that they can be trusted with fairly large amounts of money, and if you don't trust them with your money, or if you don't trust them to be fair, then you do not have to play at PD.....they do not have that option.

i am not against investigation if game played fairly or not

but when things came to gather info about player or coins things will change

if you dont want to pay winnings due to dirty coins you should not accept dirty coins

if you want to run annonmyous casino you should not look for non-annonymous players

[xetsr]

anyone know stunnas or edwards a info which be used for sue if they scam anyone?

I am pretty sure that Edward's info is fairly public. I am not as sure about Stunna's information.

I came across Edward's FB profile several months ago (maybe a year+) when PD was running some kind of FB giveaway, and there was a fairly decent amount of publicly available information there. Not only that but PD has been around for long enough and has been entrusted with enough money to reasonably say that they can be trusted with fairly large amounts of money, and if you don't trust them with your money, or if you don't trust them to be fair, then you do not have to play at PD.....they do not have that option.

i am not against investigation if game played fairly or not

but when things came to gather info about player or coins things will change

if you dont want to pay winnings due to dirty coins you should not accept dirty coins

if you want to run annonmyous casino you should not look for non-annonymous players

I don't think any of this has to do with "dirty coins". Asking for all that information was probably some type of stall tactic while they investigated the possibility of a hack / exploit being used.

[Dyatrev]

anyone know stunnas or edwards a info which be used for sue if they scam anyone?

I am pretty sure that Edward's info is fairly public. I am not as sure about Stunna's information.

I came across Edward's FB profile several months ago (maybe a year+) when PD was running some kind of FB giveaway, and there was a fairly decent amount of publicly available information there. Not only that but PD has been around for long enough and has been entrusted with enough money to reasonably say that they can be trusted with fairly large amounts of money, and if you don't trust them with your money, or if you don't trust them to be fair, then you do not have to play at PD.....they do not have that option.

i am not against investigation if game played fairly or not

but when things came to gather info about player or coins things will change

if you dont want to pay winnings due to dirty coins you should not accept dirty coins

if you want to run annonmyous casino you should not look for non-annonymous players

I don't think any of this has to do with "dirty coins". Asking for all that information was probably some type of stall tactic while they investigated the possibility of a hack / exploit being used.

they would just say that at first hand who would be against that
at all they prove their trust all those times 1 2 3 day or 1 week for investigation who would care except than op?

[Quickseller]

anyone know stunnas or edwards a info which be used for sue if they scam anyone?

I am pretty sure that Edward's info is fairly public. I am not as sure about Stunna's information.

I came across Edward's FB profile several months ago (maybe a year+) when PD was running some kind of FB giveaway, and there was a fairly decent amount of publicly available information there. Not only that but PD has been around for long enough and has been entrusted with enough money to reasonably say that they can be trusted with fairly large amounts of money, and if you don't trust them with your money, or if you don't trust them to be fair, then you do not have to play at PD.....they do not have that option.

i am not against investigation if game played fairly or not

2 - but when things came to gather info about player or coins things will change

3 - if you dont want to pay winnings due to dirty coins you should not accept dirty coins

4 - if you want to run annonmyous casino you should not look for non-annonymous players

2 - I believe the reason for asking the information is to have someone they can go after in the event that an investigation reveals he was cheating. From what I understand, sufficient answers to Edward's questions would allow the OP to receive his coins prior to the conclusion of an investigation.

3 - I don't think Edward was questioning if the coins were "dirty" or not, I think he was trying to find a way to go after the OP if an investigation revealed the OP was using an exploit.  For example, if the OP sent BTC from his bitstamp account to PD, then PD could ask bitstamp whose account was being used to withdraw from bitstamp

4 - I don't believe that PD has ever advertised themselves as being "anon" nor that player's can be "anon". it is a common misconception that Bitcoin is anonymous, however that is simply not true. 

[xetsr]

anyone know stunnas or edwards a info which be used for sue if they scam anyone?

I am pretty sure that Edward's info is fairly public. I am not as sure about Stunna's information.

I came across Edward's FB profile several months ago (maybe a year+) when PD was running some kind of FB giveaway, and there was a fairly decent amount of publicly available information there. Not only that but PD has been around for long enough and has been entrusted with enough money to reasonably say that they can be trusted with fairly large amounts of money, and if you don't trust them with your money, or if you don't trust them to be fair, then you do not have to play at PD.....they do not have that option.

i am not against investigation if game played fairly or not

but when things came to gather info about player or coins things will change

if you dont want to pay winnings due to dirty coins you should not accept dirty coins

if you want to run annonmyous casino you should not look for non-annonymous players

I don't think any of this has to do with "dirty coins". Asking for all that information was probably some type of stall tactic while they investigated the possibility of a hack / exploit being used.

they would just say that at first hand who would be against that
at all they prove their trust all those times 1 2 3 day or 1 week for investigation who would care except than op?

Why are you and RichGang trying to make this a issue with "dirty coins"? Maybe I missed something, but where is primedice claiming the coins are bad? I honestly don't think they or any other gambling site cares where coins come from as long as they're not double spends.

Sounds like you both are trying to take the focus off the real issue: Did he exploit the site and then try to withdraw 80 BTC

OP and Primedice haven't included alot of information so you guys are really jumping the gun, unless you know something that hasn't been posted public.

EDIT:

If you go back and look at OP you'll see he's claiming they are forcing him to tell personal details. I don't see that as the case:

https://postimg.org/image/3zo9nbtr5
"if you don't mind me asking"

https://postimg.org/image/40y7gqvkx
"I'd love to process the withdrawal as soon as possible"

https://postimg.org/image/ilfabkqjl
"I will need some"

He doesn't say anywhere the withdrawal can't be processed so I'm gonna assume if all information requested was provided, the withdrawal would have been much faster compared to waiting until the investigation is complete - Which is something I hope other sites do when processing large withdrawals. Letting users auto withdraw large amounts can be a huge issue, just look at the previous failed dice sites and sports books who claim hack / exploit.

[Dyatrev]

anyone know stunnas or edwards a info which be used for sue if they scam anyone?

I am pretty sure that Edward's info is fairly public. I am not as sure about Stunna's information.

I came across Edward's FB profile several months ago (maybe a year+) when PD was running some kind of FB giveaway, and there was a fairly decent amount of publicly available information there. Not only that but PD has been around for long enough and has been entrusted with enough money to reasonably say that they can be trusted with fairly large amounts of money, and if you don't trust them with your money, or if you don't trust them to be fair, then you do not have to play at PD.....they do not have that option.

i am not against investigation if game played fairly or not

but when things came to gather info about player or coins things will change

if you dont want to pay winnings due to dirty coins you should not accept dirty coins

if you want to run annonmyous casino you should not look for non-annonymous players

I don't think any of this has to do with "dirty coins". Asking for all that information was probably some type of stall tactic while they investigated the possibility of a hack / exploit being used.

they would just say that at first hand who would be against that
at all they prove their trust all those times 1 2 3 day or 1 week for investigation who would care except than op?

Why are you and RichGang trying to make this a issue with "dirty coins"? Maybe I missed something, but where is primedice claiming the coins are bad? I honestly don't think they or any other gambling site cares where coins come from as long as they're not double spends.

Sounds like you both are trying to take the focus off the real issue: Did he exploit the site and then try to withdraw 80 BTC

OP and Primedice haven't included alot of information so you guys are really jumping the gun, unless you know something that hasn't been posted public.

EDIT:

If you go back and look at OP you'll see he's claiming they are forcing him to tell personal details. I don't see that as the case:

https://postimg.org/image/3zo9nbtr5
"if you don't mind me asking"

https://postimg.org/image/40y7gqvkx
"I'd love to process the withdrawal as soon as possible"

https://postimg.org/image/ilfabkqjl
"I will need some"

He doesn't say anywhere the withdrawal can't be processed so I'm gonna assume if all information requested was provided, the withdrawal would have been much faster compared to waiting until the investigation is complete - Which is something I hope other sites do when processing large withdrawals. Letting users auto withdraw large amounts can be a huge issue, just look at the previous failed dice sites and sports books who claim hack / exploit.

which part we cant agree instead of saying your withdraw is pending because we are investigating possible cheat/exploit just bare little with us

why all those unnecesary questions?

[actmyname]

which part we cant agree instead of saying your withdraw is pending because we are investigating possible cheat/exploit just bare little with us

why all those unnecesary questions?

I think perhaps now you're starting to form the picture here. Hypothesize: if the player was in fact cheating but Edward paid him the coins, what then? Instead, if you can link the coins to someone whom you can penalize (perhaps legally) then you are able to recover the coins and also deter future cheating.

[Dyatrev]

anyone know stunnas or edwards a info which be used for sue if they scam anyone?

I am pretty sure that Edward's info is fairly public. I am not as sure about Stunna's information.

I came across Edward's FB profile several months ago (maybe a year+) when PD was running some kind of FB giveaway, and there was a fairly decent amount of publicly available information there. Not only that but PD has been around for long enough and has been entrusted with enough money to reasonably say that they can be trusted with fairly large amounts of money, and if you don't trust them with your money, or if you don't trust them to be fair, then you do not have to play at PD.....they do not have that option.

i am not against investigation if game played fairly or not

but when things came to gather info about player or coins things will change

if you dont want to pay winnings due to dirty coins you should not accept dirty coins

if you want to run annonmyous casino you should not look for non-annonymous players

I don't think any of this has to do with "dirty coins". Asking for all that information was probably some type of stall tactic while they investigated the possibility of a hack / exploit being used.

they would just say that at first hand who would be against that
at all they prove their trust all those times 1 2 3 day or 1 week for investigation who would care except than op?

Why are you and RichGang trying to make this a issue with "dirty coins"? Maybe I missed something, but where is primedice claiming the coins are bad? I honestly don't think they or any other gambling site cares where coins come from as long as they're not double spends.

Sounds like you both are trying to take the focus off the real issue: Did he exploit the site and then try to withdraw 80 BTC

OP and Primedice haven't included alot of information so you guys are really jumping the gun, unless you know something that hasn't been posted public.

EDIT:

If you go back and look at OP you'll see he's claiming they are forcing him to tell personal details. I don't see that as the case:

https://postimg.org/image/3zo9nbtr5
"if you don't mind me asking"

https://postimg.org/image/40y7gqvkx
"I'd love to process the withdrawal as soon as possible"

https://postimg.org/image/ilfabkqjl
"I will need some"

He doesn't say anywhere the withdrawal can't be processed so I'm gonna assume if all information requested was provided, the withdrawal would have been much faster compared to waiting until the investigation is complete - Which is something I hope other sites do when processing large withdrawals. Letting users auto withdraw large amounts can be a huge issue, just look at the previous failed dice sites and sports books who claim hack / exploit.

which part we cant agree instead of saying your withdraw is pending because we are investigating possible cheat/exploit just bare little with us

why all those unnecesary questions?

I think perhaps now you're starting to form the picture here. Hypothesize: if the player was in fact cheating but Edward paid him the coins, what then? Instead, if you can link the coins to someone whom you can penalize (perhaps legally) then you are able to recover the coins and also deter future cheating.

thousand of thousand bitcoins scammed by well known parties and anyone got his coins back by any legal ways?

[Quickseller]

I think there is a fairly good chance that the OP was involved in some kind of foul play. I wouldn't be surprised if a few of the people posting in this thread are alts of the OP

[Dyatrev]

I think there is a fairly good chance that the OP was involved in some kind of foul play. I wouldn't be surprised if a few of the people posting in this thread are alts of the OP

yeah maybe and i would be happy if they found out any cheating/exploit before they relase coins

[Sharma]

I think there is a fairly good chance that the OP was involved in some kind of foul play. I wouldn't be surprised if a few of the people posting in this thread are alts of the OP

Well, stunna posted here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.msg15553640#msg15553640 that they are requiring a seed change for security reasons. I wonder if that is because of OP's foul play.

[Quickseller]

I think there is a fairly good chance that the OP was involved in some kind of foul play. I wouldn't be surprised if a few of the people posting in this thread are alts of the OP

Well, stunna posted here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.msg15553640#msg15553640 that they are requiring a seed change for security reasons. I wonder if that is because of OP's foul play.

That is a big part of my basis for thinking that the OP is involved in some kind of foul play.

Another reason to be skeptical is the fact that players very rarely make 8,000x their initial deposit/bankroll for a number of reasons -- 1) it is statically very unlikely that someone will use the betting sequence(s)/seed combination(s) to potentially be able to make 8,000x their initial deposit 2) many players that do have the potential to make 8000x their deposit will stop well before reaching 8000x out of fear they might bust 3) Players that have the ability to make 8000x their deposit will continue gambling past 8000x until they bust

There is also the fact that the OP (via what appears to be shills) is attempting to put pressure on PD to process his withdrawal. In my experience whenever someone is putting pressure to give them money very quickly (and more quickly then the pace the person paying out is trying to go), there is often something going on that probably should not be going on.

All of this is speculative, however as a whole I believe it points to foul play. It may or may not result in PD failing to payout the OP's withdrawal though.

[Sharma]

I think there is a fairly good chance that the OP was involved in some kind of foul play. I wouldn't be surprised if a few of the people posting in this thread are alts of the OP

Well, stunna posted here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.msg15553640#msg15553640 that they are requiring a seed change for security reasons. I wonder if that is because of OP's foul play.

That is a big part of my basis for thinking that the OP is involved in some kind of foul play.

Another reason to be skeptical is the fact that players very rarely make 8,000x their initial deposit/bankroll for a number of reasons -- 1) it is statically very unlikely that someone will use the betting sequence(s)/seed combination(s) to potentially be able to make 8,000x their initial deposit 2) many players that do have the potential to make 8000x their deposit will stop well before reaching 8000x out of fear they might bust 3) Players that have the ability to make 8000x their deposit will continue gambling past 8000x until they bust

Yeah, definitely. I think that it would be interesting to see how things turn out for both parties.

Seems like though that PD already incurred a loss by processing half his withdrawal.

[RichGang]

I cant quote cos am on mobile. First pd is an unlicenced casino. Even regarded as illegal.
There is NO pd TOS that says u will submit ur id if they feel u are cheating. Majority of u talking aint even gamblers and even if u gamble u you aint a high roller. As a professional high rolling gambler, I must say pd is doing shit by asking for an id. If soneone cheats, its ur duty to find out how. If I was comfortable with submitting my id for gambling, I would gamble in fiat sites that are licenced.  Because I wanna be anonymouse, I choosed btc gambling and am sure most of the high rollers prefer btc gambling for this reason.
IF FOR ANY REASON A PLAYER WILL BE ASKED FOR HIS I'D, THE CASINO IN QUESTION SHOULD STATE IN IN THE TOS LIKE LICIENCED CASINOS DO.
There are several reasons for asking a big winner for id. What if stunna and edward are planning to go rob this guy?
For security reasons, an unlicenced casino should not demand id like their licensed conterparts. If you want id, then get a legal license. Plain and simple.

[Dank Frank]

I cant quote cos am on mobile. First pd is an unlicenced casino. Even regarded as illegal.
There is NO pd TOS that says u will submit ur id if they feel u are cheating. Majority of u talking aint even gamblers and even if u gamble u you aint a high roller. As a professional high rolling gambler, I must say pd is doing shit by asking for an id. If soneone cheats, its ur duty to find out how. If I was comfortable with submitting my id for gambling, I would gamble in fiat sites that are licenced.  Because I wanna be anonymouse, I choosed btc gambling and am sure most of the high rollers prefer btc gambling for this reason.
IF FOR ANY REASON A PLAYER WILL BE ASKED FOR HIS I'D, THE CASINO IN QUESTION SHOULD STATE IN IN THE TOS LIKE LICIENCED CASINOS DO.
There are several reasons for asking a big winner for id. What if stunna and edward are planning to go rob this guy?
For security reasons, an unlicenced casino should not demand id like their licensed conterparts. If you want id, then get a legal license. Plain and simple.

Dude you are exhausting, first your scam accusations against betking and now almost a full page of rage against pd. Time to ignore you.

People, stunna already replied: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1546299.msg15549556#msg15549556
And he admits that Edward made a mistake by asking those kinda dumb questions.

Next time they will just answer: Sorry we found some suspicious behavior from your side on our website and are investigating this.
Like they should have to begin with.

The rest here is just speculating, hell lets wager some on it since most of us like to gamble???

[RichGang]

I cant quote cos am on mobile. First pd is an unlicenced casino. Even regarded as illegal.
There is NO pd TOS that says u will submit ur id if they feel u are cheating. Majority of u talking aint even gamblers and even if u gamble u you aint a high roller. As a professional high rolling gambler, I must say pd is doing shit by asking for an id. If soneone cheats, its ur duty to find out how. If I was comfortable with submitting my id for gambling, I would gamble in fiat sites that are licenced.  Because I wanna be anonymouse, I choosed btc gambling and am sure most of the high rollers prefer btc gambling for this reason.
IF FOR ANY REASON A PLAYER WILL BE ASKED FOR HIS I'D, THE CASINO IN QUESTION SHOULD STATE IN IN THE TOS LIKE LICIENCED CASINOS DO.
There are several reasons for asking a big winner for id. What if stunna and edward are planning to go rob this guy?
For security reasons, an unlicenced casino should not demand id like their licensed conterparts. If you want id, then get a legal license. Plain and simple.

Dude you are exhausting, first your scam accusations against betking and now almost a full page of rage against pd. Time to ignore you.

People, stunna already replied: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1546299.msg15549556#msg15549556
And he admits that Edward made a mistake by asking those kinda dumb questions.

Next time they will just answer: Sorry we found some suspicious behavior from your side on our website and are investigating this.
Like they should have to begin with.

The rest here is just speculating, hell lets wager some on it since most of us like to gamble???

Dude stfu if u got nothing to say. I have always accused pd of scamming.  It only took tim eea nd now ots surfacing. Watchout for betking soon

[boosh]

I cant quote cos am on mobile. First pd is an unlicenced casino. Even regarded as illegal.
There is NO pd TOS that says u will submit ur id if they feel u are cheating. Majority of u talking aint even gamblers and even if u gamble u you aint a high roller. As a professional high rolling gambler, I must say pd is doing shit by asking for an id. If soneone cheats, its ur duty to find out how. If I was comfortable with submitting my id for gambling, I would gamble in fiat sites that are licenced.  Because I wanna be anonymouse, I choosed btc gambling and am sure most of the high rollers prefer btc gambling for this reason.
IF FOR ANY REASON A PLAYER WILL BE ASKED FOR HIS I'D, THE CASINO IN QUESTION SHOULD STATE IN IN THE TOS LIKE LICIENCED CASINOS DO.
There are several reasons for asking a big winner for id. What if stunna and edward are planning to go rob this guy?
For security reasons, an unlicenced casino should not demand id like their licensed conterparts. If you want id, then get a legal license. Plain and simple.

Dude you are exhausting, first your scam accusations against betking and now almost a full page of rage against pd. Time to ignore you.

People, stunna already replied: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1546299.msg15549556#msg15549556
And he admits that Edward made a mistake by asking those kinda dumb questions.

Next time they will just answer: Sorry we found some suspicious behavior from your side on our website and are investigating this.
Like they should have to begin with.

The rest here is just speculating, hell lets wager some on it since most of us like to gamble???

Dude stfu if u got nothing to say. I have always accused pd of scamming.  It only took tim eea nd now ots surfacing. Watchout for betking soon

Candy/Pierre11, they let you ouf of the looneybin ?

[Roboabhishek]

Edward had reason to suspect you for  other reasons than you turning 0.01 into 80 coins there was an unusual circumstance to do with your win otherwise. He held your cashout and asked for additional information (not something I would have done personally but I stand by it) so he could in good mind process your withdrawal. There has never been a situation where we required information in order to push a withdrawal, only to potentially speed up. Your win is under investigation and will be paid if no foul play is found, if you had provided information it would have been processed on the spot.

In the past Ed did this with a user hufflepuff who refused to give information, he was cashed out for 2400 in wins despite not providing information. You were sent half your payment and I ask that you remain patient for the remainder while we investigate your case. I'll also be discussing this matter with Edward as I think him asking for that sort of information is not useful regardless and it sets a bad precedent.

You will likely be paid within the day

Holy shit, never thought if that amount is 80 btc, and he won that just from 0.01 btc. Thanks for the clarification stunna, so we all know if hes real edward.

You are a fool. Its possible to winb10000000 btc from 0.01. And 80btc is not that big. Afterall people loose thousands of coins and fuckers like u act like its normal and fuckers like nlico come screaming provably fair. STUNNA GO LEARN HOW PROVABLY FAIR WORKS

Fool? Can you made that amount from same like OP did? 0.01 -> 80 btc? If you can't, don't act like you already made decent amount from small balance.

That's true i remember once i made 2.3 BTC from 0.01 on autobet i left it open and had to sleep @night next day what i saw was impossible to happen the balance was 2.282 i was literally shocked @the moment but @last i lost it all.After that i am avoiding gambling at all. In his case i dont think it was impossible to make 80 BTC from that 0.01

[Eremitos]

Irrelevant with what I stated. It doesn't matter whether you played with 0.01 until 80 BTC or if you went and doubled or anything else. It's still 8000x the original deposit. At the very best, a 1 in 8167 chance when playing at Primedice. It was probably an even lower chance if they wagered more, due to house edge.
[/quote]

How is that irrelevant? If the original deposit was 0.01 and then second deposit was 50 btc and he made 80 btc out of it, it's still 1 in 8000 chance to get it? WTF you talking about?

[Eremitos]

BTCTHE TRUTH IS THEY ARE ASKING FOR HIS PERSONAL DETAILS SO THEY CAN GO ROB HIM SINCE THEY COULDN'T ROB HIM ONLINE

Edward is hardly asking for anything personal. He's asking for your contact details, that's all. "When and where you bought your bitcoins", that is hardly related to the topic.

If he asks for your ID, then that wouldn't be very appropriate. But he's just asking you simple info mate.

Dude read again, he asked for ID,
And why ask where btc is gotten after winning. Why not ask when depositing

They wouldn't have problem where BTCs are from if he lost and BTCs went to them, would they? That's really fishy.

[Grab]

Any update's from PD stuff?
Kekeke still don't get his withdraw. PD change seeds this is strange.
They should made his withdraw if they cant proof that he is cheating.

[RichGang]

BTCTHE TRUTH IS THEY ARE ASKING FOR HIS PERSONAL DETAILS SO THEY CAN GO ROB HIM SINCE THEY COULDN'T ROB HIM ONLINE

Edward is hardly asking for anything personal. He's asking for your contact details, that's all. "When and where you bought your bitcoins", that is hardly related to the topic.

If he asks for your ID, then that wouldn't be very appropriate. But he's just asking you simple info mate.

Dude read again, he asked for ID,
And why ask where btc is gotten after winning. Why not ask when depositing

They wouldn't have problem where BTCs are from if he lost and BTCs went to them, would they? That's really fishy.

I was wondering same too. These dice sites are scammerd

[RichGang]

BTCTHE TRUTH IS THEY ARE ASKING FOR HIS PERSONAL DETAILS SO THEY CAN GO ROB HIM SINCE THEY COULDN'T ROB HIM ONLINE

Edward is hardly asking for anything personal. He's asking for your contact details, that's all. "When and where you bought your bitcoins", that is hardly related to the topic.

If he asks for your ID, then that wouldn't be very appropriate. But he's just asking you simple info mate.

Dude read again, he asked for ID,
And why ask where btc is gotten after winning. Why not ask when depositing

They wouldn't have problem where BTCs are from if he lost and BTCs went to them, would they? That's really fishy.

I was wondering same too. These dice sites are scammerd

Check out the main thread for PD at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.23080 where the topic went on and is being addressed. Consider this thread to go off topic very soon and become a haven for richgang minions ..

What a scum, dude that thread is off topic and I dont see talks about this scam there. Fuckn primedice is accusrd of scam and this is on scam accusations. What mskes it off topic???
Is this suppose to be on " best dice sites""?

[Dank Frank]

Meanwhile, OP already got 40 btc, i hear nobody about that. And OP stopped responding.

Besides that OP stated he deposited more in between but doesn't give full disclosure of how much and his contact with PD after stunna's interference.

A discussion is only possible if we know both sides of the story and it doesn't give people rights to go so much off topic about other things and their 'being scammed' feelings.

The seed refresh happens often after such wins for security reasons. It sucks when you bet on high multipliers but after hufflepuff generating 2 of the same seeds it is necessary from time to time.

[RichGang]

OP is oonline but silent. Only posted 6 times.
Who knows, he might have actually cheated. No need supporting someone that wont even come out to explain shit. Kitkat or what ever ur username is, I got a few reasons to believe u actually cheated

[kitticat]

OP is oonline but silent. Only posted 6 times.
Who knows, he might have actually cheated. No need supporting someone that wont even come out to explain shit. Kitkat or what ever ur username is, I got a few reasons to believe u actually cheated

so people think that question r fine.? when a user in problem in withdraw asking rubbish ques. nd now my acc got muted. deducted existing bal from my acc. deleted trace of pending transc. how can we tell just a user cheated? why cant a site cheat a user?

did u see that sort of ques. before? any user posted like before?. then we shouldnt be final that problem is on one side

[Grab]

PD must pay you today or show proof that you are cheating or something. But for me primedice is unprofessional gambling site.
PD4 have so many bug's. They have so much money and cant make good site.
Still waiting for update from admin's. But i dont trust them anymore. They act like cia or fbi.

[RichGang]

OP is oonline but silent. Only posted 6 times.
Who knows, he might have actually cheated. No need supporting someone that wont even come out to explain shit. Kitkat or what ever ur username is, I got a few reasons to believe u actually cheated

so people think that question r fine.? when a user in problem in withdraw asking rubbish ques. nd now my acc got muted. deducted existing bal from my acc. deleted trace of pending transc. how can we tell just a user cheated? why cant a site cheat a user?

did u see that sort of ques. before? any user posted like before?. then we shouldnt be final that problem is on one side

Dude if I was in your shoes I won't be this silent. You behaviour makes me doubt if u won genuinely

[kitticat]

Dude if I was in your shoes I won't be this silent. You behaviour makes me doubt if u won genuinely

then how can u see this thread, if im silent?

[Dank Frank]

OP is oonline but silent. Only posted 6 times.
Who knows, he might have actually cheated. No need supporting someone that wont even come out to explain shit. Kitkat or what ever ur username is, I got a few reasons to believe u actually cheated

so people think that question r fine.? when a user in problem in withdraw asking rubbish ques. nd now my acc got muted. deducted existing bal from my acc. deleted trace of pending transc. how can we tell just a user cheated? why cant a site cheat a user?

did u see that sort of ques. before? any user posted like before?. then we shouldnt be final that problem is on one side

Actually on the first page:

They did the same with 'hatesatoshi' they asked a proof of ID and residence and everything.

And the thread is online, if your silent or not we can all read it.
And most people here + stunna also agreed the questions were stupid.

People, stunna already replied: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1546299.msg15549556#msg15549556
And he admits that Edward made a mistake by asking those kinda dumb questions.

Next time they will just answer: Sorry we found some suspicious behavior from your side on our website and are investigating this.
Like they should have to begin with.

The rest here is just speculating, hell lets wager some on it since most of us like to gamble???

So did he paid you 40 coins already or not?
Is it still under investigation or are the rest of the 40 coins also released?
And if you claim you deposited more then 0.01, how much was it then?
And did you got muted by a mod, or got a message a Admin muted you?

 

[kitticat]

So did he paid you 40 coins already or not?
Is it still under investigation or are the rest of the 40 coins also released?
And if you claim you deposited more then 0.01, how much was it then?
And did you got muted by a mod, or got a message a Admin muted you?

 

yes, i didnt get rest 40, it was btw 1 to 5, 3-4 times done deposit, i didnt get any msg just "u muted"

[Dank Frank]

So did he paid you 40 coins already or not?
Is it still under investigation or are the rest of the 40 coins also released?
And if you claim you deposited more then 0.01, how much was it then?
And did you got muted by a mod, or got a message a Admin muted you?

 

yes, i didnt get rest 40, it was btw 1 to 5, 3-4 times done deposit, i didnt get any msg just "u muted"

Well if you got a 'you muted' message this usually means one of the Mods muted you and not one of the Admins, and the mods are volunteers. (i could be wrong with last changes of the site) I don't know how you behaved in chat, but maybe you know this yourself.

I hope for you everything will be quickly solved and you get all your coins, at least you can have a nice dinner with the 40 you already have.

Good luck.

[Grab]

Come  on admin's. Make his withdraw or show proof that he is hacker.
Waiting.

[actmyname]

So did he paid you 40 coins already or not?
Is it still under investigation or are the rest of the 40 coins also released?
And if you claim you deposited more then 0.01, how much was it then?
And did you got muted by a mod, or got a message a Admin muted you?

 

yes, i didnt get rest 40, it was btw 1 to 5, 3-4 times done deposit, i didnt get any msg just "u muted"

Did you lose any of your deposits in that timeframe? Do you have transaction ID's to prove that you deposited? (As irrelevant as this question may seem, it carries some weight)

[RichGang]

Dude if I was in your shoes I won't be this silent. You behaviour makes me doubt if u won genuinely

then how can u see this thread, if im silent?

Weather u believe it or not, I am the one making this thread stay active. You just posted how u where not paid then went silent. Likr I said, u sound and behave like u did somethinh wrong.  I might be wrong but that's yhe truth

[Grab]

Stunna and edward we are still waiting for update of situation.
"You will likely be paid within the day" this is what stunna say 16h ago.

[RichGang]

I am not waiting for no update. Op seems happy with the 40btc , dosnt really care about remaining 40. Typical behaviour of someone that cheated.

[Grab]

Stunna you was online couple mins ago. Any update?

[kitticat]

Stunna you was online couple mins ago. Any update?

day over, but still no reply.how many days want to wait again

[Grab]

Stunna was online hour ago.. Please admin's give us some update. Thank's.

[RichGang]

Stunna you was online couple mins ago. Any update?

day over, but still no reply.how many days want to wait again

Dude,  its too late to be pouring fuel into this fire now. That money is gone. U never even acted like u actually won anything. I dont see u getting paid even if u won genuinely which I doubt because of ur actions and behaviour

[kitticat]

Stunna you was online couple mins ago. Any update?

day over, but still no reply.how many days want to wait again

Dude,  its too late to be pouring fuel into this fire now. That money is gone. U never even acted like u actually won anything. I dont see u getting paid even if u won genuinely which I doubt because of ur actions and behaviour

tnx for keeping this thread running. by these fucknig admins didnt say anything, either refuse/accept. they r just keeping their mouth shut. and they dont know what to do in this case. u saying im silent. just think on that side, what that bad ass guyz doing.tey said process withdraw within a day. have these asssuckrs done that?

[Grab]

Come on admins... Give us some update !

[RichGang]

Ok man., I get your point. Its obvious those fuckn scums scammed you. Am surprised that idiots like nlco and the rest aint saying anything about this.
40btc is a big amount to be scammed.
I have always pinned pd on scam site list.
Now people will be careful about them. Only an idiot will keep play there.

[frankmb]

I still wonder how this ends, still to early to jump to any conclusions.

But stunna did say if they found nothing you would get paid within 24 hours, so either they found something and are still investigating or he try's to avoid the topic. Either way he should had at least replied in his own given time frame.

[NLNico]

Am surprised that idiots like nlco and the rest aint saying anything about this.

I am wondering who that "nlco" idiot is.

Anyway, Stunna said "More to come" in his last update, so I personally simply wait for that first.

Actually I have been following this thread since start too, very curious about the outcome just like you. I just didn't see any reason to write 18 replies in here making mixed accusations ("OP is scammer", "PD is scammer", ..) without hearing the "investigation results" and full context first, especially since he at least got 40 coins already (so taking a little bit time to investigate before processing the other half seems fair to me.)

[shanghai]

It's hard to believe you turn 0.01 to 80BTC. Congrat lucky guy. Hope to see giveaway in game and round

[kitticat]

It's hard to believe you turn 0.01 to 80BTC. Congrat lucky guy. Hope to see giveaway in game and round

dude, it is very hard to do tat. nd i didnt got 80 simple in from0.01, made deposits after tat. atlast played nd got tat 80.

these fuking admins trying to advertise "he made 80 from 0.01", "sounds cheated huh?" nd to brush it, paint it to make it mega look to mirror like cheat by user.

ill repeat " i didnt make 80 from just with 0.01" "ive done more dep. between 1-5 btc in 3-4txn" nd standed in 80

[actmyname]

It's hard to believe you turn 0.01 to 80BTC. Congrat lucky guy. Hope to see giveaway in game and round

dude, it is very hard to do tat. nd i didnt got 80 simple in from0.01, made deposits after tat. atlast played nd got tat 80.

these fuking admins trying to advertise "he made 80 from 0.01", "sounds cheated huh?" nd to brush it, paint it to make it mega look to mirror like cheat by user.

ill repeat " i didnt make 80 from just with 0.01" "ive done more dep. between 1-5 btc in 3-4txn" nd standed in 80

And I'll repeat:

Did you lose any of your deposits in that timeframe? Do you have transaction ID's to prove that you deposited? (As irrelevant as this question may seem, it carries some weight)

If you have only words and no evidence of this, then what do we have to believe you?

[kitticat]

If you have only words and no evidence of this, then what do we have to believe you?

Yes, ive lost the dep. inbet, but i got recovered. yeh i will post the txn id, dep.addr. soon, as they r confi. to recover the acc. im waiting for wat thse big ass admins going to say here.

[Grab]

If you have only words and no evidence of this, then what do we have to believe you?

Yes, ive lost the dep. inbet, but i got recovered. yeh i will post the txn id, dep.addr. soon, as they r confi. to recover the acc. im waiting for wat thse big ass admins going to say here.

Yes this is  annyoing. You waiting and they ignore this thread... Come on admins !

[janggernaut]

If you have only words and no evidence of this, then what do we have to believe you?

Yes, ive lost the dep. inbet, but i got recovered. yeh i will post the txn id, dep.addr. soon, as they r confi. to recover the acc. im waiting for wat thse big ass admins going to say here.

Yes this is  annyoing. You waiting and they ignore this thread... Come on admins !

Curious whats your relation with OP, seems like you're act like OP, lol. Stunna already said if hes still need investigate with that amount, so better just wait.

[Grab]

Stunna was online hour ago but he still ignore this thread.This is fucking not ok! You cant solve this problem? Maybe close this scamming and bugged site!

[Grab]

If you have only words and no evidence of this, then what do we have to believe you?

Yes, ive lost the dep. inbet, but i got recovered. yeh i will post the txn id, dep.addr. soon, as they r confi. to recover the acc. im waiting for wat thse big ass admins going to say here.

Yes this is  annyoing. You waiting and they ignore this thread... Come on admins !

Curious whats your relation with OP, seems like you're act like OP, lol. Stunna already said if hes still need investigate with that amount, so better just wait.

This is not your problem who i am. And please don't tell me what to do thank's.

[RichGang]

Op dosnt need to post any more fuckn proof. Stunna already confirmed he won. So asking for proof is stupid. Stunna is delaying to manipulate the outcome.
Nlco ask YOUR stunna to verify the rolls. It takes 1 min to do so.
That scum is a scammer, plain and simple.

[emberbekas]

This happened again? Someone has to provide his data to be able to withdrawal his balance? Hatesatoshi got the same problem before and he got his balance after sent his data to primedice owner!

[janggernaut]

This happened again? Someone has to provide his data to be able to withdrawal his balance? Hatesatoshi got the same problem before and he got his balance after sent his data to primedice owner!

Actually this just for people who won a lot btc and i think those question is very easy for him. like stunna said, this is not first time edward did, they already did to another person too back then (maybe hatesatoshi is one of that people).

[dustboy]

This happened again? Someone has to provide his data to be able to withdrawal his balance? Hatesatoshi got the same problem before and he got his balance after sent his data to primedice owner!

Sounds a bit weird for anonymous gambling site, perhaps they need to do it to avoid something that may drain their bankroll. Is PD has any terms regarding big win should provide kyc verification?

[RichGang]

This happened again? Someone has to provide his data to be able to withdrawal his balance? Hatesatoshi got the same problem before and he got his balance after sent his data to primedice owner!

That was stupid of him. Thats cyber bully at its best. Why the fuck must he submit his id. Stunna might send assassins to kill him and get his cash or just Rob him. Primedice is unlicenced.  They have no right to collect peoples id

[kitticat]

That was stupid of him. Thats cyber bully at its best. Why the fuck must he submit his id. Stunna might send assassins to kill him and get his cash or just Rob him. Primedice is unlicenced.  They have no right to collect peoples id

these craps are really asswholes. do cumshot each other. and these suckers now explore themself as scammers. dont trust them and dont do any high rolls. 80>0.01=provably fair 0.01>80=cheated. this is bitches fair 

[AfricaLife]

How much exactly did you win from PD? How large were your original deposit(s)? Are you using TOR/VPN?

any of this rly matter or necessary as long as if he didnt cheat or use any exploit?

Well if he did in some way cheat they might not be able to detect it right away. Hufflepuff was able to use an exploit that was undetected for a long time after he stopped playing under that name.

   It is a she btw, and who the hell needs information for no reason?

[RichGang]

That was stupid of him. Thats cyber bully at its best. Why the fuck must he submit his id. Stunna might send assassins to kill him and get his cash or just Rob him. Primedice is unlicenced.  They have no right to collect peoples id

these craps are really asswholes. do cumshot each other. and these suckers now explore themself as scammers. dont trust them and dont do any high rolls. 80>0.01=provably fair 0.01>80=cheated. this is bitches fair 

Yeah thats their idea of provably fair, idiots like nlco will rant provably fair if u go from 80btc to 0.01. Fuck these assholes

[HrN]

LOOOOOL !!
Amazing.
Why you ask him for his personal data? why you need his ID?
You want to blackmail him or why?
He won ! Give him the bitcoins back ! Don't scamm him.
I won +3 bitcoins with 0.2 btc in 3 hours... he won 80 btc... where is the problem?

I lost few days ago 8 bitcoins and i don't asked you WHY I LOST THEM !

Don't be scammer, stunna !

[MarkMJ]

Edward had reason to suspect you for  other reasons than you turning 0.01 into 80 coins there was an unusual circumstance to do with your win otherwise. He held your cashout and asked for additional information (not something I would have done personally but I stand by it) so he could in good mind process your withdrawal. There has never been a situation where we required information in order to push a withdrawal, only to potentially speed up. Your win is under investigation and will be paid if no foul play is found, if you had provided information it would have been processed on the spot.

In the past Ed did this with a user hufflepuff who refused to give information, he was cashed out for 2400 in wins despite not providing information. You were sent half your payment and I ask that you remain patient for the remainder while we investigate your case. I'll also be discussing this matter with Edward as I think him asking for that sort of information is not useful regardless and it sets a bad precedent.

You will likely be paid within the day

Hello dear,

Do you see how many threads are with Primedice scam?
Why don't you do something?
Me personally I trust Primedice but I will stop doing that.

[robinH]

Primedice do the right thing and pay the OP his winnings.  We don't see you investigating yourselves when you win large amounts of coins from players. It's been more than the 24 hrs you promised.  I guess provably fair only works in one direction. ...

[MarkMJ]

stunna do you get the point?

edit:

DO you get MY POINT?

[Stunna]

I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.

I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.

[Dyatrev]

I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow.

oh and lets hear what kekeke gonna say about this

[hermanhs09]

Edward just wanted to make some friends i guess or he might have consumed one too many vodka shots

Anyways, personally never had any issues withdrawing from primedice. If withdrawal amounts are big and deposit amounts are from a mixer, i think they have the right to inquire. Just my 2cents

Owners of gambling site shouldn't care from where you have money. If they care why Nizam deposit and withdraw from PD many times without any issue? If you dont know nizam just read about him. He scam+200BTC from bitcoin users and +50BTC from pd users.
For me primedice lost all reputation.

It is stupid to say that primedice already lost reputation.
I dont think so,because if someone wins really big,they just want to make sure he is not scamming.
Also there was no cases like this before.

[RichGang]

I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.

I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.

Wtf. What a smelling fuckkkkkk.
Everytime someone wins big u come up with this shit. i have seen people loose hundreds of btc on your fuckn site. I saw a guy even loose 120btc on 85%chance of winning. Can I fuckn tell us what expliot u used to scamm him??

[actmyname]

I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.

I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.

Wtf. What a smelling fuckkkkkk.
Everytime someone wins big u come up with this shit. i have seen people loose hundreds of btc on your fuckn site. I saw a guy even loose 120btc on 85%chance of winning. Can I fuckn tell us what expliot u used to scamm him??

1. A 15% chance of losing is still a chance of losing. Any non-zero chance that can happen eventually will.
2. Of course people lose money. There's a house edge, after all. Primedice needs to make a profit somehow.
3. Why don't you wait tomorrow to see if OP returns the funds or when Stunna brings forth their evidence? Either way, it will show that OP was attempting to cheat Primedice.

That was stupid of him. Thats cyber bully at its best. Why the fuck must he submit his id. Stunna might send assassins to kill him and get his cash or just Rob him. Primedice is unlicenced.  They have no right to collect peoples id

Why would they even bother sending assassins? That's a wild imagination you have there. There's a million things that can be refuted towards those statements. Besides, Primedice hardly needs to "send assassins to kill him". If there's evidence of foul play, then internet history can be tracked and linked to them. As well as this, they make enough money on a daily basis, as you've previously mentioned (angrily towards them).
Also, OP has still yet to respond (with an answer that provides evidence) to my questions that I'd asked multiple times:

Did you lose any of your deposits in that timeframe? Do you have transaction ID's to prove that you deposited? (As irrelevant as this question may seem, it carries some weight)

[RichGang]

I can imagin anyting I want. Yes asking someone for id could be so they track and kill or rob him. They have be en valid cases of similar things happening. If someone could go from 130btc to 0btc, why cant someone go from 0.01 btc to 80 btv or more. Why apply the logic on one side only.
Dosnt matter if those scammers pay or not. There are still scammers. People win bigger amounds on betking and jd and I dont har this shit

[HeyYouGuys]

I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.

I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.

I'm simply curious. Stunna, you've been at this how many years?

PD4 didnt change anything. You added a "animation script slider", changed colors, and moved the elements, chat area, and menu options around.

Nothing server wise, in terms of seeds, hashes, back end, encryption, or even the layout for betting changed- at all.

How is it that people are able to exploit a site thats been running for 3 years, and has made God knows how much money.

I say publicity stunt. Just like Hufflepuff. It's all smoke and mirrors folks. Exploit? Seriously. There are no exploits.

[HeyYouGuys]

I can imagin anyting I want. Yes asking someone for id could be so they track and kill or rob him. They have be en valid cases of similar things happening. If someone could go from 130btc to 0btc, why cant someone go from 0.01 btc to 80 btv or more. Why apply the logic on one side only.
Dosnt matter if those scammers pay or not. There are still scammers. People win bigger amounds on betking and jd and I dont har this shit

Yea, it's like when you are playing 2x and you get 27 reds in a row.

They say "you were unlucky".

But if you were betting with double on win, as in, stack your winnings into next bet, and started with just 0.00000010 and got 27 greens.

They would say "Impossible. Exploit!".

Yet the odds, roughly the same. The payout. More than 80BTC.

[actmyname]

I can imagin anyting I want. Yes asking someone for id could be so they track and kill or rob him. They have be en valid cases of similar things happening. If someone could go from 130btc to 0btc, why cant someone go from 0.01 btc to 80 btv or more. Why apply the logic on one side only.
Dosnt matter if those scammers pay or not. There are still scammers. People win bigger amounds on betking and jd and I dont har this shit

Yea, it's like when you are playing 2x and you get 27 reds in a row.

They say "you were unlucky".

But if you were betting with double on win, as in, stack your winnings into next bet, and started with just 0.00000010 and got 27 greens.

They would say "Impossible. Exploit!".

Yet the odds, roughly the same. The payout. More than 80BTC.

It's a 1 in ~102,596,558 chance to get 27 reds in a row.
But you don't bet just once, do you? No. You bet multiple times. Hence, more possibilities to lose.

It's a 1 in ~176,059,567 chance to get 27 greens in a row.
But you don't get more than one chance. If you falter on that 49.5% win rate on any of your 27 bets, you lose.

Do you see the difference in odds? More a 70% difference. 70% rarer to get greens than reds.

This is the house edge. This is statistics.

Every single wager you place returns you [statistically] 99% of what you wagered (given this h.e.).
Example:

You bet 1 BTC on 50% twice. You win once and you lose once. You get 0.98 BTC back.
You gained 1.98 BTC on the winning bet, and you lost 1 BTC on the losing bet. You "broke even" but still lost.

Yet the odds, roughly the same. The payout. More than 80BTC.

The odds are not roughly the same. Nowhere near.

Continuing on, the odds for red would only increase as you bet more and more. This is not an opinionated answer. These are raw facts.

Continue your ignorance, or face the fact that you don't understand how "provably fair" works.

[LittleShort]

I can imagin anyting I want. Yes asking someone for id could be so they track and kill or rob him. They have be en valid cases of similar things happening. If someone could go from 130btc to 0btc, why cant someone go from 0.01 btc to 80 btv or more. Why apply the logic on one side only.
Dosnt matter if those scammers pay or not. There are still scammers. People win bigger amounds on betking and jd and I dont har this shit

Yea, it's like when you are playing 2x and you get 27 reds in a row.

They say "you were unlucky".

But if you were betting with double on win, as in, stack your winnings into next bet, and started with just 0.00000010 and got 27 greens.

They would say "Impossible. Exploit!".

Yet the odds, roughly the same. The payout. More than 80BTC.

It's a 1 in ~102,596,558 chance to get 27 reds in a row.
But you don't bet just once, do you? No. You bet multiple times. Hence, more possibilities to lose.

It's a 1 in ~176,059,567 chance to get 27 greens in a row.
But you don't get more than one chance. If you falter on that 49.5% win rate on any of your 27 bets, you lose.

Do you see the difference in odds? More a 70% difference. 70% rarer to get greens than reds.

This is the house edge. This is statistics.

Every single wager you place returns you [statistically] 99% of what you wagered (given this h.e.).
Example:

You bet 1 BTC on 50% twice. You win once and you lose once. You get 0.98 BTC back.
You gained 1.98 BTC on the winning bet, and you lost 1 BTC on the losing bet. You "broke even" but still lost.

Yet the odds, roughly the same. The payout. More than 80BTC.

The odds are not roughly the same. Nowhere near.

Continuing on, the odds for red would only increase as you bet more and more. This is not an opinionated answer. These are raw facts.

Continue your ignorance, or face the fact that you don't understand how "provably fair" works.

^^This.^^

[Dyatrev]

I can imagin anyting I want. Yes asking someone for id could be so they track and kill or rob him. They have be en valid cases of similar things happening. If someone could go from 130btc to 0btc, why cant someone go from 0.01 btc to 80 btv or more. Why apply the logic on one side only.
Dosnt matter if those scammers pay or not. There are still scammers. People win bigger amounds on betking and jd and I dont har this shit

Yea, it's like when you are playing 2x and you get 27 reds in a row.

They say "you were unlucky".

But if you were betting with double on win, as in, stack your winnings into next bet, and started with just 0.00000010 and got 27 greens.

They would say "Impossible. Exploit!".

Yet the odds, roughly the same. The payout. More than 80BTC.

It's a 1 in ~102,596,558 chance to get 27 reds in a row.
But you don't bet just once, do you? No. You bet multiple times. Hence, more possibilities to lose.

It's a 1 in ~176,059,567 chance to get 27 greens in a row.
But you don't get more than one chance. If you falter on that 49.5% win rate on any of your 27 bets, you lose.

Do you see the difference in odds? More a 70% difference. 70% rarer to get greens than reds.

This is the house edge. This is statistics.

Every single wager you place returns you [statistically] 99% of what you wagered (given this h.e.).
Example:

You bet 1 BTC on 50% twice. You win once and you lose once. You get 0.98 BTC back.
You gained 1.98 BTC on the winning bet, and you lost 1 BTC on the losing bet. You "broke even" but still lost.

Yet the odds, roughly the same. The payout. More than 80BTC.

The odds are not roughly the same. Nowhere near.

Continuing on, the odds for red would only increase as you bet more and more. This is not an opinionated answer. These are raw facts.

Continue your ignorance, or face the fact that you don't understand how "provably fair" works.

those genious are killing me provably fair has nothing what you explained it just means your roll outcomes can be proven thats all why messing with house edge or billion possibility

[MarkMJ]

What can I say stunna! 
You are fucked.

[sonnysurya]

what is the problem of winning 80 btc? the chance of winning or losing is random. everyone can win or lose.
so, you expect all users to be lose, stunna?

[kitticat]

I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.

yeah, these fuckrs will hire a english writer now, nd will post a clean nd crystal clear content not abe to fnd any wrong int that, nd will say im cheated. do u offer? dear ass im not begging u. its my btc

I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation.

it will take time u want to read books, methods to fool users

Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.

r u kidding?. do u still think people here r stupid?

[torry28]

what is the problem of winning 80 btc? the chance of winning or losing is random. everyone can win or lose.
so, you expect all users to be lose, stunna?

it's not the problem. We already seen so many people won a lot from Primedice, also Primedice team always said "congratulations for people who won more than 100 btc" in social media (facebook), so they aren't expect/hoping all user to lose, also they have provably fair system which can't determine someone will lose or win.

[Eremitos]

I can imagin anyting I want. Yes asking someone for id could be so they track and kill or rob him. They have be en valid cases of similar things happening. If someone could go from 130btc to 0btc, why cant someone go from 0.01 btc to 80 btv or more. Why apply the logic on one side only.
Dosnt matter if those scammers pay or not. There are still scammers. People win bigger amounds on betking and jd and I dont har this shit

Yea, it's like when you are playing 2x and you get 27 reds in a row.

They say "you were unlucky".

But if you were betting with double on win, as in, stack your winnings into next bet, and started with just 0.00000010 and got 27 greens.

They would say "Impossible. Exploit!".

Yet the odds, roughly the same. The payout. More than 80BTC.

It's a 1 in ~102,596,558 chance to get 27 reds in a row.
But you don't bet just once, do you? No. You bet multiple times. Hence, more possibilities to lose.

It's a 1 in ~176,059,567 chance to get 27 greens in a row.
But you don't get more than one chance. If you falter on that 49.5% win rate on any of your 27 bets, you lose.

Do you see the difference in odds? More a 70% difference. 70% rarer to get greens than reds.

This is the house edge. This is statistics.

Every single wager you place returns you [statistically] 99% of what you wagered (given this h.e.).
Example:

You bet 1 BTC on 50% twice. You win once and you lose once. You get 0.98 BTC back.
You gained 1.98 BTC on the winning bet, and you lost 1 BTC on the losing bet. You "broke even" but still lost.

Yet the odds, roughly the same. The payout. More than 80BTC.

The odds are not roughly the same. Nowhere near.

Continuing on, the odds for red would only increase as you bet more and more. This is not an opinionated answer. These are raw facts.

Continue your ignorance, or face the fact that you don't understand how "provably fair" works.

Provably fair has nothing do with what you wrote. That's just stats. But then again - odds of losing 28 times are smaller than winning 27 times and you still be saying "unlucky, can happen". The point is, as you said before in one of your posts - "anything that can happen, eventually will". So it happened that guy won 80 BTC. Pay him. If provably fair justifies all strangest losing streaks, it does also justifies all strangest winning streaks. No matter if it's 1 in 100 or 1 in 200.

Plus, there is one more thing - security thing. If anyone's account gets hacked, PD simply says "it's not our problem, security is your issue". And then it admits there are exploits. So it is possible that account got compromised because of PD fault and not player fault. Yet we have no possibility to investigate anything, not to mention refunding. So if PD don't care about players security, players simply don't care about PD security. You have no right to investigate and expect refund just as players have no right to do it. Guy won? Pay him!

The only tool players have is bet verification. Suspicious about losing streak? Verify bets. If verification is positive, that ends the case. So I say the same - you have problem with kekeke's winnings? Verify his bets. No further questions, no further activities. How can we know, if it isn't manipulation? After so many days PD  can come up with any prepared "proofs" about kekeke's "cheating" they want. After all they are the ones who control servers. And they did extensive changes called "maintenance" in last days, so now nobody would be able to get the truth about how things really looked when kekeke was betting and who really cheated - player or maybe quite opposite.

[RichGang]

Eritus,  that the best comment here. If I get 30 reds and loosr 80btc, idioys like nlco and stunna will say verify bets. Now if I win 80btc why not verify bets you usless fuckers. Pay that dude his cssh

[RichGang]

  FROM THE WAY STUNNA IS BEHAVING, I CAN BET MY DICK,  KKK DIDNT CHEAT. Stunna is trying to m anipulate the system now

[HeyYouGuys]

Its not impossible to hit 9900x wins close together. I did it once, I think something like 130 apart.

I mean, I was betting 1 satoshi. But if I had been betting 0.00020000 rolls, I would have won 40btc.

It can happen.

As they say "you were just very unlucky".

As can also be true "wow thats very lucky".

In regards to the above posts about provably fair; no comment as provably fair has zero effect on odds of rolls.

[kitticat]

Weeeeelll said eritmos. kudos man... these ass getting for manipulation work now. yep richgang fuck that shit adm.

[Quickseller]

Weeeeelll said eritmos. kudos man... these ass getting for manipulation work now. yep richgang fuck that shit adm.

You do realize that it is bliently obvious that you are using a ridiculous number of sockpuppets in this and other PD threads?

[HeyYouGuys]

FROM THE WAY STUNNA IS BEHAVING, I CAN BET MY DICK,  KKK DIDNT CHEAT. Stunna is trying to m anipulate the system now

I do find it so bizarre the way they run their site. The site just "poof" vanishes. No comments from mods, anything for like an hour or so. No tweets since March on their Twitter page.

2 Hours go by, and a mod MICRO says "yeah we have maintenance regularly".

Ummmm ok, well why not announce it first so people can stop betting, withdraw if need be.

Then like 12 hours later Stunna chimes in, "We have server problems, it's our hosting company".

I thought you were doing maintenance?

The site was working just fine, for me and everyone. Why don't you stop doing maintenance. I mean, its all pointing fingers at their service providers, passing blame, and treating their customers disrespectfully.

I mean, to just kick everyone, not allow withdraws, no information. Its just bad business.

Lastly, he said 5 hours ago "should be up in 3.5 hours".

Primedice... The world's most unreliable and unmanaged bitcoin casino dice site.

[RichGang]

Weeeeelll said eritmos. kudos man... these ass getting for manipulation work now. yep richgang fuck that shit adm.

You do realize that it is bliently obvious that you are using a ridiculous number of sockpuppets in this and other PD threads?

Who are the puppets?
Man u should stfu. You dont know shit about gambling. When u ever bet 5 btc amd losse and then have this scammers say u lost because u where unlucky, then come comment here. For now, ur opinion dont matter cos u aint even a gambler

[RichGang]

FROM THE WAY STUNNA IS BEHAVING, I CAN BET MY DICK,  KKK DIDNT CHEAT. Stunna is trying to m anipulate the system now

I do find it so bizarre the way they run their site. The site just "poof" vanishes. No comments from mods, anything for like an hour or so. No tweets since March on their Twitter page.

2 Hours go by, and a mod MICRO says "yeah we have maintenance regularly".

Ummmm ok, well why not announce it first so people can stop betting, withdraw if need be.

Then like 12 hours later Stunna chimes in, "We have server problems, it's our hosting company".

I thought you were doing maintenance?

The site was working just fine, for me and everyone. Why don't you stop doing maintenance. I mean, its all pointing fingers at their service providers, passing blame, and treating their customers disrespectfully.

I mean, to just kick everyone, not allow withdraws, no information. Its just bad business.

Lastly, he said 5 hours ago "should be up in 3.5 hours".

Primedice... The world's most unreliable and unmanaged bitcoin casino dice site.

Well said dude. Its strange how they suddenly started site maintance after scam accusations. Then suddenly, they say its from the service provider. Be smart guys,  THE ANSWERS ARE CLEAR

[Noctis Connor]

For me this is not necessary to ask that kind of details, its too dangerous to give your profile. Once your profile is on the internet, it will stay forever and you cannot erase it. And I am wondering why would he ask that questions?

[Quickseller]

Weeeeelll said eritmos. kudos man... these ass getting for manipulation work now. yep richgang fuck that shit adm.

You do realize that it is bliently obvious that you are using a ridiculous number of sockpuppets in this and other PD threads?

Who are the puppets?
Man u should stfu. You dont know shit about gambling. When u ever bet 5 btc amd losse and then have this scammers say u lost because u where unlucky, then come comment here. For now, ur opinion dont matter cos u aint even a gambler

Pretty much anyone who has posted negatively about PD in this thread is clearly a sockpuppet, it is very clear (at least to me.

I do gamble occasionally, however I do not gamble more then I am willing to lose as I understand that gambling is well gambling. With provably fair, it is possible for the gambler to ensure that the casino did not cheat the player, however it is not possible to verify that the player did not cheat the casino using provably fair alone.

With provably fair, two seeds, one from the casino and one from the player (and sometimes a nonce) will be added together using some formula that the casino discloses to players ahead of time. To ensure that a casino is in fact provably fair, the casino will first commit to a "server" seed, and will give you the hash of the server seed, the player then selects a client seed (and writes down/copies both the server and client seed, and nonce if applicable), then the player places his bet. After the result of the bet is determined, the casino will reveal the actual server seed, and the player can verify that the hash they were provided is in fact the has of the actual server seed. The player can them independently verify that the bet/roll was calculated correctly.

In the case of what the OP/you did is that you somehow were able to figure out the actual server seed prior to it being disclosed to you, either by tricking the server to select a certain server seed, somehow tricking the server into disclosing the server seed to you prior to the bet, or something similar. By knowing both the server seed and the client seed in advance, then you can calculate the outcome of the roll ahead of time and bet accordingly. So it is not as simple to "verify the bets" when checking if someone cheated the casino, but you already knew that, didn't you Danny?

[Daneric]

This is becoming scary. Why is the site down? So many reasons given and it is taking a lot of time.I had a few in my account but they can not make me go bankrupt just in case PD disappears forever. Any suggestions on a similar gambling site but which is very reliable. I would appreciate some suggestions.

[RichGang]

This quickseller needs to ve forced to eat rotten dog shit. I never knew peoole could be this stupid

[BayAreaCoins]

I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.

I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.

So he made the withdraw to kekeke... then why are people saying it is down to steal some dudes 80 BTC if he has them?

[RichGang]

This is becoming scary. Why is the site down? So ma reasons given and it is taking a lot of time.I had a few in my account but they can not make me go bankrupt just in case PD disappears forever. Any suggestions on a similar gambling site but which is very reliable. I would appreciate some suggestions.

BETKING AND JUSTDICE. Stay off of and rollin. They will try to rig you, if they cant they will say u cheatedvand wont pay u.

[RichGang]

I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.

I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.

So he made the withdraw to kekeke... then why are people saying it is down to steal some dudes 80 BTC if he has them?

They are holding his 40btc

[Quickseller]

This quickseller needs to ve forced to eat rotten dog shit. I never knew peoole could be this stupid

I apologize, do you prefer that I call you Zeyue?

[BayAreaCoins]

I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.

I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.

So he made the withdraw to kekeke... then why are people saying it is down to steal some dudes 80 BTC if he has them?

They are holding his 40btc

Ah so they processed half is withdraw and are making up an excuse for the other half?

Betcoin.ag did something similar not long ago.  Paid enough to keep the winner quiet but weaseled out on the other chunk.

Super lame

[Noctis Connor]

I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.

I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.

So he made the withdraw to kekeke... then why are people saying it is down to steal some dudes 80 BTC if he has them?

So this is the reason now why the admin was asking that questions. This is a big loss for primedice, if it is true that he used an exploit then the admin has the right to know the details about him, but if not, it will not be necessary. They really need to fix that problem as soon as possible, people are growing impatient.

[RichGang]

I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.

I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.

So he made the withdraw to kekeke... then why are people saying it is down to steal some dudes 80 BTC if he has them?

They are holding his 40btc

Ah so they processed half is withdraw and are making up an excuse for the other half?

Betcoin.ag did something similar not long ago.  Paid enough to keep the winner quiet but weaseled out on the other chunk.

Super lame

betcoin are smart thieves. Stunna is a brainless thief

[RichGang]

This quickseller needs to ve forced to eat rotten dog shit. I never knew peoole could be this stupid

I apologize, do you prefer that I call you Zeyue?

Call me any shit. I will only call u a stupid idiot

[Eremitos]

Weeeeelll said eritmos. kudos man... these ass getting for manipulation work now. yep richgang fuck that shit adm.

You do realize that it is bliently obvious that you are using a ridiculous number of sockpuppets in this and other PD threads?

Really? I expected more of you than just simply considering me an alt of kitticat. So should I say you're just an alt or employee of stunna? I brought some arguments and you didn't reponse to them at all. All you do is praising PD. That's quite pathetic.

So it is not as simple to "verify the bets" when checking if someone cheated the casino, but you already knew that, didn't you Danny?

Well I guess it's not as simple as "verify the bets" when checking if casino cheated you. At least as long as its code isn't open-source.

[Dank Frank]

Just wait on stunna's explanation. He said the user exploited the site and would do his story later on.

[Dyatrev]

quickseller just because ppl saying something is wrong that doesnt make them sockpuppets otherwise you would be called sockpuppet too btw you are proven scammer at this community too with your failed many personality same escrow thingy right?

[David19]

I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.

I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.

So he made the withdraw to kekeke... then why are people saying it is down to steal some dudes 80 BTC if he has them?

They are holding his 40btc

Ah so they processed half is withdraw and are making up an excuse for the other half?

Betcoin.ag did something similar not long ago.  Paid enough to keep the winner quiet but weaseled out on the other chunk.

Super lame

I'm fairly certain the user exploited primedice. I also have an idea how he did it. It has been patched now for few days. I'm waiting for Stunna's explanation to see if i am correct or not.

[Stunna]

Just wait on stunna's explanation. He said the user exploited the site and would do his story later on.

This has gone too far.

During the development of PD4 we kept a testserver where we did our testing. A user named jlairy was assisting with the testing which you can see via his post history and profile. We finished testing and launched PD4 but the test server remained up. Without my knowledge our developers ran a test environment on this server shortly after launch which ran a fork of the DB.  Jlairy aka fundice aka kekeke aka kittikat figured this out and changed his seed on the test server which reflected his next seed on Primedice (PD was storing the next seed to save a request).

We came to this realization after briefly looking into him when he had turned 0.01 into 80 coins. I checked his depositing address which he sent the 0.01 from: https://blockchain.info/address/1BMmWpSq6N3swc5RYs7dSn2HewELKRdzv2 and found a blockchain note that said "Public Note: Withdraw to niti201012 from In India LIMITED" for a few transactions from a couple years ago.


Looking up Niti201012 resulted in finding this reddit thread: https://m.reddit.com/r/Primedice/comments/36cgna/happy_hour_starting_now/  . If you look at the comments you'll see the reddit account Niti201012 posting for one of our giveaways.

https://www.reddit.com/user/niti201012  Look at this account and view the first comment
"usr:fundice date:sep 7 2015 pd awesome while playing and fun still i dont earn nothing"

This was the eureka moment for me as kekeke who I had suspected of cheating was linked to "fundice" one of our testers . Immediately I talked to my developers and found out about the new irresponsible test environment on that same test server ip address which he had tested on at some point. When we looked at our test environment DB this is what we saw.

List of users registered on test environment:



Note Kekeke (the abusing account) on that list.

When comparing seeds on test environment versus primedice:





Note the 41c8 seed match between the test environment and the live website. This could have been worse than hufflepuff if Kittikat was not as sloppy as he was, fortunately he only managed to cashout 40 bitcoins before we figured this out. Edward was right to stop this cashout and demand information and his instinct was correct. I chose not to post any identifying information about fundice/kekeke/kittikat in this thread, we are pursuing legal action.

In summary kekeke revealed his seed on the test server, which allowed him to predict his next bets, allowing him to wager 0.01 into 80 btc. This threw up a red flag and when investigated we figured out how he had cheated us and put a stop to it. I'm honestly shocked he continued to post on this forum after we took down the test server and forced a seed reset the same day as his post. The test enviroment was a huge oversight on our side but I'm glad we were able to resolve this quickly, what fundice/kekeke did was still a major abuse of trust.

Here are where some of the funds ended up so far:
https://blockchain.info/address/18Z2y6T2t6g7Bbo4pLpmZ8Fbkcgpy98EYQ

https://blockchain.info/address/1FH7ZgWZpaxSZd29Tdra6rH9snSmwCAxe1

This thread should be closed.

[Dyatrev]

Just wait on stunna's explanation. He said the user exploited the site and would do his story later on.

This has gone too far.

During the development of PD4 we kept a testserver where we did our testing. A user named jlairy was assisting with the testing which you can see via his post history and profile. We finished testing and launched PD4 but the test server remained up. Without my knowledge our developers ran a test environment on this server shortly after launch which ran a fork of the DB.  Jlairy aka fundice aka kekeke aka kittikat figured this out and changed his seed on the test server which reflected his next seed on Primedice (PD was storing the next seed to save a request).

We came to this realization after briefly looking into him when he had turned 0.01 into 80 coins. I checked his depositing address which he sent the 0.01 from: https://blockchain.info/address/1BMmWpSq6N3swc5RYs7dSn2HewELKRdzv2 and found a blockchain note that said "Public Note: Withdraw to niti201012 from In India LIMITED" for a few transactions from a couple years ago.


Looking up Niti201012 resulted in finding this reddit thread: https://m.reddit.com/r/Primedice/comments/36cgna/happy_hour_starting_now/  . If you look at the comments you'll see the reddit account Niti201012 posting for one of our giveaways.

https://www.reddit.com/user/niti201012  Look at this account and view the first comment
"usr:fundice date:sep 7 2015 pd awesome while playing and fun still i dont earn nothing"

This was the eureka moment for me as kekeke who I had suspected of cheating was linked to "fundice" one of our testers . Immediately I talked to my developers and found out about the new irresponsible test environment on that same test server ip address which he had tested on at some point. When we looked at our test environment DB this is what we saw.

List of users registered on test environment:



Note Kekeke (the abusing account) on that list.

When comparing seeds on test environment versus primedice:





Note the 41c8 seed match between the test environment and the live website. This could have been worse than hufflepuff if Kittikat was not as sloppy as he was, fortunately he only managed to cashout 40 bitcoins before we figured this out. Edward was right to stop this cashout and demand information and his instinct was correct. I chose not to post any identifying information about fundice/kekeke/kittikat in this thread, we are pursuing legal action.

In summary kekeke revealed his seed on the test server, which allowed him to predict his next bets, allowing him to wager 0.01 into 80 btc. This threw up a red flag and when investigated we figured out how he had cheated us and put a stop to it. I'm honestly shocked he continued to post on this forum after we took down the test server and forced a seed reset the same day as his post. The test enviroment was a huge oversight on our side but I'm glad we were able to resolve this quickly, what fundice/kekeke did was still a major abuse of trust.

This thread should be closed.

so you tested your site with some stranger?

and i know fundice at pd his way of speaking not even close to kekeke i know fundice because i didnt believe him when he said he was on test server and i mocked him for days then when pd4 released i appologized to him

[David19]

Interesting. I thought he used another exploit.

[suchmoon]

so you tested your site with some stranger?

and i know fundice at pd his way of speaking not even close to kekeke i know fundice because i didnt believe him when he said he was on test server and i mocked him for days then when pd4 released i appologized to him

Stranger or not - that wasn't the problem, not the biggest problem anyway. It's the PD geniuses who used production seeds on the test server, if I'm reading this correctly. Luckily the perp wasn't smart enough to keep a low profile and drain it slowly. Dodged a serious bullet there Stunna.

[Stunna]

so you tested your site with some stranger?

and i know fundice at pd his way of speaking not even close to kekeke i know fundice because i didnt believe him when he said he was on test server and i mocked him for days then when pd4 released i appologized to him

Stranger or not - that wasn't the problem, not the biggest problem anyway. It's the PD geniuses who used production seeds on the test server, if I'm reading this correctly. Luckily the perp wasn't smart enough to keep a low profile and drain it slowly. Dodged a serious bullet there Stunna.

Yeah, certainly a mistake. Our developer also forgot that we store the next seed, we'll be changing how that works most likely. I'm curious to see if kekeke will duck his head back on this forum or not.

[David19]

so you tested your site with some stranger?

and i know fundice at pd his way of speaking not even close to kekeke i know fundice because i didnt believe him when he said he was on test server and i mocked him for days then when pd4 released i appologized to him

Stranger or not - that wasn't the problem, not the biggest problem anyway. It's the PD geniuses who used production seeds on the test server, if I'm reading this correctly. Luckily the perp wasn't smart enough to keep a low profile and drain it slowly. Dodged a serious bullet there Stunna.

I agree. This was certainly PD developers fault of leaving the beta site up. Fortunately for primedice the exploiter wasn't one of the brightest guys in the world. They should feel lucky that they only lost 40BTC.

[Stunna]

so you tested your site with some stranger?

and i know fundice at pd his way of speaking not even close to kekeke i know fundice because i didnt believe him when he said he was on test server and i mocked him for days then when pd4 released i appologized to him

Stranger or not - that wasn't the problem, not the biggest problem anyway. It's the PD geniuses who used production seeds on the test server, if I'm reading this correctly. Luckily the perp wasn't smart enough to keep a low profile and drain it slowly. Dodged a serious bullet there Stunna.

I agree. This was certainly PD developers fault of leaving the beta site up. Fortunately for primedice the exploiter wasn't one of the brightest guys in the world. They should feel lucky that they only lost 40BTC.

We really do feel lucky. This would have been pretty undetectable.

[RichGang]

Now ke ke ke reply to this accusations.
From the way you where responding to this thread, I told you,  I feel u cheated.
Well I will like to hear your side of this story. I wont be fast to believe everything stunna posted here till u say something.
But. I see so many proofs pointing to the ditection that you cheated. Well waiting for ur response.
And now to you stunna, if a random dude could cheat, it means u can also cheat rollers. Are u gonna tell me that a random dude can access ur site and cheat but u cant access ur site and cheat high rollers?

[Dyatrev]

Now ke ke ke reply to this accusations.
From the way you where responding to this thread, I told you,  I feel u cheated.
Well I will like to hear your side of this story. I wont be fast to believe everything stunna posted here till u say something.
But. I see so many proofs pointing to the ditection that you cheated. Well waiting for ur response.
And now to you stunna, if a random dude could cheat, it means u can also cheat rollers. Are u gonna tell me that a random dude can access ur site and cheat but u cant access ur site and cheat high rollers?

richgang this kind of cheat is possible if players invest at pd and stunna start to play against this money but as you know there is nothing like that

stunna investing money players playing against that money

[MICRO]

Now ke ke ke reply to this accusations.
From the way you where responding to this thread, I told you,  I feel u cheated.
Well I will like to hear your side of this story. I wont be fast to believe everything stunna posted here till u say something.
But. I see so many proofs pointing to the ditection that you cheated. Well waiting for ur response.
And now to you stunna, if a random dude could cheat, it means u can also cheat rollers. Are u gonna tell me that a random dude can access ur site and cheat but u cant access ur site and cheat high rollers?

LOL. If you would to understand how he cheated and to understand provably fair you would know answer to that question.

[MarkMJ]

richgang this kind of cheat is possible if players invest at pd and stunna start to play against this money but as you know there is nothing like that

stunna investing money players playing against that money

I just made a copy past!
Because you said well.

[janggernaut]

so you tested your site with some stranger?

and i know fundice at pd his way of speaking not even close to kekeke i know fundice because i didnt believe him when he said he was on test server and i mocked him for days then when pd4 released i appologized to him

Stranger or not - that wasn't the problem, not the biggest problem anyway. It's the PD geniuses who used production seeds on the test server, if I'm reading this correctly. Luckily the perp wasn't smart enough to keep a low profile and drain it slowly. Dodged a serious bullet there Stunna.

Yeah, certainly a mistake. Our developer also forgot that we store the next seed, we'll be changing how that works most likely. I'm curious to see if kekeke will duck his head back on this forum or not.

I think he won't (or maybe he will, but using his alt acount). He already happy  scam primedice for 40 btc "only" with 0.01 btc

[BayAreaCoins]

so you tested your site with some stranger?

and i know fundice at pd his way of speaking not even close to kekeke i know fundice because i didnt believe him when he said he was on test server and i mocked him for days then when pd4 released i appologized to him

Stranger or not - that wasn't the problem, not the biggest problem anyway. It's the PD geniuses who used production seeds on the test server, if I'm reading this correctly. Luckily the perp wasn't smart enough to keep a low profile and drain it slowly. Dodged a serious bullet there Stunna.

Yeah, certainly a mistake. Our developer also forgot that we store the next seed, we'll be changing how that works most likely. I'm curious to see if kekeke will duck his head back on this forum or not.

I think he won't (or maybe he will, but using his alt acount). He already happy  scam primedice for 40 btc "only" with 0.01 btc

I just wonder where he bought that .01 BTC from.... (har har)

[joksim299]

If he had been smart this would end up horrible for Primedice...
Pretty dumb to deposit just 0.01 and 'win' 80BTC and pass undetected, and he even opened scam accusation thread which was even worse move.
Primedice was under public pressure to deliver PD4, do not announce new version next time until you are sure it is safe and bug free.

[emberbekas]

Just wait on stunna's explanation. He said the user exploited the site and would do his story later on.

This has gone too far.

During the development of PD4 we kept a testserver where we did our testing. A user named jlairy was assisting with the testing which you can see via his post history and profile. We finished testing and launched PD4 but the test server remained up. Without my knowledge our developers ran a test environment on this server shortly after launch which ran a fork of the DB.  Jlairy aka fundice aka kekeke aka kittikat figured this out and changed his seed on the test server which reflected his next seed on Primedice (PD was storing the next seed to save a request).

We came to this realization after briefly looking into him when he had turned 0.01 into 80 coins. I checked his depositing address which he sent the 0.01 from: https://blockchain.info/address/1BMmWpSq6N3swc5RYs7dSn2HewELKRdzv2 and found a blockchain note that said "Public Note: Withdraw to niti201012 from In India LIMITED" for a few transactions from a couple years ago.


Looking up Niti201012 resulted in finding this reddit thread: https://m.reddit.com/r/Primedice/comments/36cgna/happy_hour_starting_now/  . If you look at the comments you'll see the reddit account Niti201012 posting for one of our giveaways.

https://www.reddit.com/user/niti201012  Look at this account and view the first comment
"usr:fundice date:sep 7 2015 pd awesome while playing and fun still i dont earn nothing"

This was the eureka moment for me as kekeke who I had suspected of cheating was linked to "fundice" one of our testers . Immediately I talked to my developers and found out about the new irresponsible test environment on that same test server ip address which he had tested on at some point. When we looked at our test environment DB this is what we saw.

List of users registered on test environment:



Note Kekeke (the abusing account) on that list.

When comparing seeds on test environment versus primedice:





Note the 41c8 seed match between the test environment and the live website. This could have been worse than hufflepuff if Kittikat was not as sloppy as he was, fortunately he only managed to cashout 40 bitcoins before we figured this out. Edward was right to stop this cashout and demand information and his instinct was correct. I chose not to post any identifying information about fundice/kekeke/kittikat in this thread, we are pursuing legal action.

In summary kekeke revealed his seed on the test server, which allowed him to predict his next bets, allowing him to wager 0.01 into 80 btc. This threw up a red flag and when investigated we figured out how he had cheated us and put a stop to it. I'm honestly shocked he continued to post on this forum after we took down the test server and forced a seed reset the same day as his post. The test enviroment was a huge oversight on our side but I'm glad we were able to resolve this quickly, what fundice/kekeke did was still a major abuse of trust.

Here are where some of the funds ended up so far:
https://blockchain.info/address/18Z2y6T2t6g7Bbo4pLpmZ8Fbkcgpy98EYQ

https://blockchain.info/address/1FH7ZgWZpaxSZd29Tdra6rH9snSmwCAxe1

This thread should be closed.

Yet another prove that Primedice's provably fair system is really fair. AFAIK, two people already proved it, hufflepuff and kekeke(the recent one). They indirectly help promoting the fairness system from this site although that wasnt their primary goals.

[Quickseller]

I checked his depositing address which he sent the 0.01 from: https://blockchain.info/address/1BMmWpSq6N3swc5RYs7dSn2HewELKRdzv2

Out of curiosity, does your hacker appear to be the same person who has/had a PD deposit address of 17YrFfqBFhxut9cBnLWjqVF62JGzoWySjP (2015)?

Also slightly off topic, but do you think this is in any way connected to the recent hackings of several forum accounts? He apparently hacked ~10 forum accounts from the leaked password hashes that were leaked last year, and he apparently has a "vendetta" against you because he last "$10 grand" (50x $200). The timing of the hacks and the exploit match up to both starting at roughly the same time.

[kitticat]

atlast happy to see your shit, blaming itself in ur team ( i tink is tat 1 of ur acc.) .as asked before, hw do u set stranger nd give ur server details? is like sometinh weird?.

Without my knowledge our developers ran a test environment on this server shortly after launch which ran a fork of the DB.

witout my knowl.? insane. a site with big bankroll will give ur dev full permission to alter anyting?
well stunna, u forgot some link here from niti201012 https://twitter.com/theonline_works . ill help you  i got btc from ifunds.biz  . but why dnt you post my dep. adress? if u r genuine u have done tat! sounds strange huh? . nd here 13WvCyryHb9sgquirU88nTC6maCpgHqGFX . created nice story wih test server bla bla. i can buy a server for 10$ nd can create  record instead of giving 40btc

u talking abt huffle?. regarding hufflepuff ther r two facts

1 "we lost 2400btc nd we fixed holes".  Trusted +1
2 "we lost 2400btc and we still run" trusted +5

In the past Ed did this with a user hufflepuff who refused to give information, he was cashed out for 2400 in wins despite not providing information.

Lost 2400+, was pretty depressing . We know who did it and there is little we can do to recover the funds.

anybody hve strong proof tht hufflepuff is nothing related to the team of pd?they stop me for just 80btc. will they give 2400btc? to unknown without providing any proof?

tey r using these cock strat. to increase visitor to their site.tey will keep seed if someone loose big, nd force the users to change seed if someone wn big. is tis fair? tey wont intimate users before seed change. nd below usr dynam1c https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=870219

https://postimg.org/image/y714lyhn5/

here, this user is offensive in public (now he del. all his posts) but he defense for pd in pm. they will enter into pd with new acc. nd they will praise tey site by themself promote by winning big nd say they have wdw.yes i accept, some real people wll won some, nd they will cash out success, only if it is auto instant. if it goes to manual, u will not get that. i see ac like dynam1c,daftpunk,uberin etc. nd more, act so smart like users. moreover they admins
this daftpunk asked. but sorry guyz it was asked in pd chat, nd i didnt snap that, just listing
1 i have found some bug, can we join and win together?
2 i think u have found some exploit and won?
3 wat u will do if pd refuse to pay ur wdw?
4 do u think u can win more?

stuna why u r in hurry to close tis thread? do u stay u genuine?.dont trust any guyz, tey will act and cheat one by one, nd tey recover funds from lost before

[5leepyJoe]

atlast happy to see your shit, blaming itself in ur team ( i tink is tat 1 of ur acc.) .as asked before, hw do u set stranger nd give ur server details? is like sometinh weird?.

Without my knowledge our developers ran a test environment on this server shortly after launch which ran a fork of the DB.

witout my knowl.? insane. a site with big bankroll will give ur dev full permission to alter anyting?
well stunna, u forgot some link here from niti201012 https://twitter.com/theonline_works . ill help you  i got btc from ifunds.biz  . but why dnt you post my dep. adress? if u r genuine u have done tat! sounds strange huh? . nd here 13WvCyryHb9sgquirU88nTC6maCpgHqGFX . created nice story wih test server bla bla. i can buy a server for 10$ nd can create  record instead of giving 40btc

u talking abt huffle?. regarding hufflepuff ther r two facts

1 "we lost 2400btc nd we fixed holes".  Trusted +1
2 "we lost 2400btc and we still run" trusted +5

In the past Ed did this with a user hufflepuff who refused to give information, he was cashed out for 2400 in wins despite not providing information.

Lost 2400+, was pretty depressing . We know who did it and there is little we can do to recover the funds.

anybody hve strong proof tht hufflepuff is nothing related to the team of pd?they stop me for just 80btc. will they give 2400btc? to unknown without providing any proof?

tey r using these cock strat. to increase visitor to their site.tey will keep seed if someone loose big, nd force the users to change seed if someone wn big. is tis fair? tey wont intimate users before seed change. nd below usr dynam1c https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=870219

https://postimg.org/image/y714lyhn5/

here, this user is offensive in public (now he del. all his posts) but he defense for pd in pm. they will enter into pd with new acc. nd they will praise tey site by themself promote by winning big nd say they have wdw.yes i accept, some real people wll won some, nd they will cash out success, only if it is auto instant. if it goes to manual, u will not get that. i see ac like dynam1c,daftpunk,uberin etc. nd more, act so smart like users. moreover they admins
this daftpunk asked. but sorry guyz it was asked in pd chat, nd i didnt snap that, just listing
1 i have found some bug, can we join and win together?
2 i think u have found some exploit and won?
3 wat u will do if pd refuse to pay ur wdw?
4 do u think u can win more?

stuna why u r in hurry to close tis thread? do u stay u genuine?.dont trust any guyz, tey will act and cheat one by one, nd tey recover funds from lost before

We need a translator...

[dynam1c]

My dear little kidden,

I only sent that private message in order to find more about you and help the Primedice team recover the funds that you stole.  I know that you are pretending to type horribly, so that Edward wouldn't be able to communicate with you totally.  Why would you do that? - Well if Edward asked you a question, you can always dodge it by not answering it, and it'll seem alright because you lack the English skills to communicate.  I suggest if you are genuine about this, you hire an English translator with your stolen funds, so that he can make semi valid points and steal the remainder 40 for you.

Regards,
Me

[actmyname]

My dear little kidden,

I only sent that private message in order to find more about you and help the Primedice team recover the funds that you stole.  I know that you are pretending to type horribly, so that Edward wouldn't be able to communicate with you totally.  Why would you do that? - Well if Edward asked you a question, you can always dodge it by not answering it, and it'll seem alright because you lack the English skills to communicate.  I suggest if you are genuine about this, you hire an English translator with your stolen funds, so that he can make semi valid points and steal the remainder 40 for you.

Regards,
Me

tey r using these cock strat. to increase visitor to their site.tey will keep seed if someone loose big, nd force the users to change seed if someone wn big. is tis fair? tey wont intimate users before seed change. nd below usr dynam1c https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=870219

https://postimg.org/image/y714lyhn5/

here, this user is offensive in public (now he del. all his posts) but he defense for pd in pm. they will enter into pd with new acc. nd they will praise tey site by themself promote by winning big nd say they have wdw.yes i accept, some real people wll won some, nd they will cash out success, only if it is auto instant. if it goes to manual, u will not get that. i see ac like dynam1c,daftpunk,uberin etc. nd more, act so smart like users. moreover they admins
this daftpunk asked. but sorry guyz it was asked in pd chat, nd i didnt snap that, just listing
1 i have found some bug, can we join and win together?
2 i think u have found some exploit and won?
3 wat u will do if pd refuse to pay ur wdw?
4 do u think u can win more?

stuna why u r in hurry to close tis thread? do u stay u genuine?.dont trust any guyz, tey will act and cheat one by one, nd tey recover funds from lost before

I think continuity errors are funny. But I guess kekeke, whoever tey are, they don't care about that. It's easy to look like you don't know how to type if you just go fully lowercase, occasionally avoid spacing out punctuation, and delete some letters from common words. I love how the English gets progressively worse as time goes on.

Funny question: why were you reluctant to post more evidence for yourself?

Yes, ive lost the dep. inbet, but i got recovered. yeh i will post the txn id, dep.addr. soon

What specifically happened in your bets? Every single deposit ended in a loss until the last one?

[Quickseller]

atlast happy to see your shit, blaming itself in ur team ( i tink is tat 1 of ur acc.) .as asked before, hw do u set stranger nd give ur server details? is like sometinh weird?.

Without my knowledge our developers ran a test environment on this server shortly after launch which ran a fork of the DB.

witout my knowl.? insane. a site with big bankroll will give ur dev full permission to alter anyting?
well stunna, u forgot some link here from niti201012 https://twitter.com/theonline_works . ill help you  i got btc from ifunds.biz  . but why dnt you post my dep. adress? if u r genuine u have done tat! sounds strange huh? . nd here 13WvCyryHb9sgquirU88nTC6maCpgHqGFX . created nice story wih test server bla bla. i can buy a server for 10$ nd can create  record instead of giving 40btc

u talking abt huffle?. regarding hufflepuff ther r two facts

1 "we lost 2400btc nd we fixed holes".  Trusted +1
2 "we lost 2400btc and we still run" trusted +5

In the past Ed did this with a user hufflepuff who refused to give information, he was cashed out for 2400 in wins despite not providing information.

Lost 2400+, was pretty depressing . We know who did it and there is little we can do to recover the funds.

anybody hve strong proof tht hufflepuff is nothing related to the team of pd?they stop me for just 80btc. will they give 2400btc? to unknown without providing any proof?

tey r using these cock strat. to increase visitor to their site.tey will keep seed if someone loose big, nd force the users to change seed if someone wn big. is tis fair? tey wont intimate users before seed change. nd below usr dynam1c https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=870219

https://postimg.org/image/y714lyhn5/

here, this user is offensive in public (now he del. all his posts) but he defense for pd in pm. they will enter into pd with new acc. nd they will praise tey site by themself promote by winning big nd say they have wdw.yes i accept, some real people wll won some, nd they will cash out success, only if it is auto instant. if it goes to manual, u will not get that. i see ac like dynam1c,daftpunk,uberin etc. nd more, act so smart like users. moreover they admins
this daftpunk asked. but sorry guyz it was asked in pd chat, nd i didnt snap that, just listing
1 i have found some bug, can we join and win together?
2 i think u have found some exploit and won?
3 wat u will do if pd refuse to pay ur wdw?
4 do u think u can win more?

stuna why u r in hurry to close tis thread? do u stay u genuine?.dont trust any guyz, tey will act and cheat one by one, nd tey recover funds from lost before

We need a translator...

He is intentionally misspelling words to make it difficult to link him with his "real world" identity as well as his other "online" identities.

I am fairly confident as to who the OP is, and I would be more confident if stunna would answer my above questions, especially if someone had recently lost ~$10k somewhat recently (I would think that this would be fairly uncommon even for a site as popular as PD). I also somewhat suspect that the person who originally had access to the PD testing servers actually gave away/sold his access to a third party (this is just as bad as personally exploiting PD himself, and likely will come with the same legal liabilities) who exploited PD's test server. I suspect that the OP is that third party.

Yes, ive lost the dep. inbet, but i got recovered. yeh i will post the txn id, dep.addr. soon

What specifically happened in your bets? Every single deposit ended in a loss until the last one?

His deposit address is 13WvCyryHb9sgquirU88nTC6maCpgHqGFX. From the looks of it the OP's deposit/withdrawal history contains the following (this is not necessarily an inclusive list).

Deposit 0.01 txid - total deposit 0.01 - total w/d 0.00 - 2016-07-08 13:02:54
W/D 1.2898 txid - total deposit 0.01 - total w/d 1.2898 - profit 1.2798 - 2016-07-08 13:35:33 (~30 mins from original deposit)
Deposit 0.3 txid] - total deposit 0.31 - total w/d 1.2898 - 2016-07-08 14:02:23
W/D 10.7998 txid - total deposit 0.31 - total w/d 12.0896 - profit 11.7796 - 2016-07-08 14:46:52 (~40 minutes from last deposit)
Deposit 1.0 txid - total deposit 1.31 - total w/d 12.0896 - 2016-07-09 01:09:3
W/D 10.3998 - txid - total deposit 1.31 - total w/d 22.4894 - profit 21.1794 - 2016-07-09 01:47:08 (~30 minutes from last deposit)
Deposit 4.0 txid - total deposit 5.31 - total w/d 22.4894 - 2016-07-09 10:29:41
w/d 24.9998 txid - total deposit 5.31 - total w/d 47.4892 - profit 42.1792 - 2016-07-09 10:52:18 (~20 minutes after last deposit)
Deposit 5.0 txid - total deposit 10.31 - total w/d 22.4894 - 2016-07-10 02:15:56 - total profit 37.1792

The most unlikely deposit/withdrawal combo is actually the first one as the OP managed to cause his initial deposit to grow by ~127x in all of 32 minutes. I am not sure how fast rolls are at PD, however if you assume one roll per second then the OP would have accomplished this in all of 1,920 bets (at most).

Based on the list of "test" users posted by stunna, it also looks like the OP might have been looking for a second exploit, I have no way of determining if he found one or not though.

[Roboabhishek]

so you tested your site with some stranger?

and i know fundice at pd his way of speaking not even close to kekeke i know fundice because i didnt believe him when he said he was on test server and i mocked him for days then when pd4 released i appologized to him

Stranger or not - that wasn't the problem, not the biggest problem anyway. It's the PD geniuses who used production seeds on the test server, if I'm reading this correctly. Luckily the perp wasn't smart enough to keep a low profile and drain it slowly. Dodged a serious bullet there Stunna.

Yeah, certainly a mistake. Our developer also forgot that we store the next seed, we'll be changing how that works most likely. I'm curious to see if kekeke will duck his head back on this forum or not.

I'm sure kekeke would be watching this thread closely.
Also stunna you were lucky that he made 80 time btc with draw it could be worse if he was draining 4-5 btc every time.

[Roboabhishek]

Now ke ke ke reply to this accusations.
From the way you where responding to this thread, I told you,  I feel u cheated.
Well I will like to hear your side of this story. I wont be fast to believe everything stunna posted here till u say something.
But. I see so many proofs pointing to the ditection that you cheated. Well waiting for ur response.
And now to you stunna, if a random dude could cheat, it means u can also cheat rollers. Are u gonna tell me that a random dude can access ur site and cheat but u cant access ur site and cheat high rollers?

LOL. If you would to understand how he cheated and to understand provably fair you would know answer to that question.

Micro you remember once I told you about the seed which sticks on the button when you click change seed in a ticket that could be used to exploit.I think evertime you click change seed button hashed seed should change or maybe in a day or 2 for more security

[Roboabhishek]

atlast happy to see your shit, blaming itself in ur team ( i tink is tat 1 of ur acc.) .as asked before, hw do u set stranger nd give ur server details? is like sometinh weird?.

Without my knowledge our developers ran a test environment on this server shortly after launch which ran a fork of the DB.

witout my knowl.? insane. a site with big bankroll will give ur dev full permission to alter anyting?
well stunna, u forgot some link here from niti201012 https://twitter.com/theonline_works . ill help you  i got btc from ifunds.biz  . but why dnt you post my dep. adress? if u r genuine u have done tat! sounds strange huh? . nd here 13WvCyryHb9sgquirU88nTC6maCpgHqGFX . created nice story wih test server bla bla. i can buy a server for 10$ nd can create  record instead of giving 40btc

u talking abt huffle?. regarding hufflepuff ther r two facts

1 "we lost 2400btc nd we fixed holes".  Trusted +1
2 "we lost 2400btc and we still run" trusted +5

In the past Ed did this with a user hufflepuff who refused to give information, he was cashed out for 2400 in wins despite not providing information.

Lost 2400+, was pretty depressing . We know who did it and there is little we can do to recover the funds.

anybody hve strong proof tht hufflepuff is nothing related to the team of pd?they stop me for just 80btc. will they give 2400btc? to unknown without providing any proof?

tey r using these cock strat. to increase visitor to their site.tey will keep seed if someone loose big, nd force the users to change seed if someone wn big. is tis fair? tey wont intimate users before seed change. nd below usr dynam1c https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=870219

https://postimg.org/image/y714lyhn5/

here, this user is offensive in public (now he del. all his posts) but he defense for pd in pm. they will enter into pd with new acc. nd they will praise tey site by themself promote by winning big nd say they have wdw.yes i accept, some real people wll won some, nd they will cash out success, only if it is auto instant. if it goes to manual, u will not get that. i see ac like dynam1c,daftpunk,uberin etc. nd more, act so smart like users. moreover they admins
this daftpunk asked. but sorry guyz it was asked in pd chat, nd i didnt snap that, just listing
1 i have found some bug, can we join and win together?
2 i think u have found some exploit and won?
3 wat u will do if pd refuse to pay ur wdw?
4 do u think u can win more?

stuna why u r in hurry to close tis thread? do u stay u genuine?.dont trust any guyz, tey will act and cheat one by one, nd tey recover funds from lost before

We need a translator...

he means that if PD can hold his 80 btc and asked for his personal info then how could have PD given Hufflepuff 2400 btc without knowing him will. also he says if stunna is genuine then why he want to close the thread

[xetsr]

he means that if PD can hold his 80 btc and asked for his personal info then how could have PD given Hufflepuff 2400 btc without knowing him will. also he says if stunna is genuine then why he want to close the thread

Where did primedice say they required personal information for the withdrawal? From what I see, that was only to speed the withdrawal process up. He could have denied and waiting for them to finish the review but no, he wanted to try and pressure them by posting here. Stunna also posted something earlier in the thread that this information was asked because of the Hufflepuff incident.

Amazing thread, if you're a sig spammer, troll or one of OPs alts 

[Roboabhishek]

he means that if PD can hold his 80 btc and asked for his personal info then how could have PD given Hufflepuff 2400 btc without knowing him will. also he says if stunna is genuine then why he want to close the thread

Where did primedice say they required personal information for the withdrawal? From what I see, that was only to speed the withdrawal process up. He could have denied and waiting for them to finish the review but no, he wanted to try and pressure them by posting here. Stunna also posted something earlier in the thread that this information was asked because of the Hufflepuff incident.

Amazing thread, if you're a sig spammer, troll or one of OPs alts  

xet -_- I just translated his words into easy language don't point finger on me without any reason

forgotten to quote "5leepyJoe" there

[xetsr]

he means that if PD can hold his 80 btc and asked for his personal info then how could have PD given Hufflepuff 2400 btc without knowing him will. also he says if stunna is genuine then why he want to close the thread

Where did primedice say they required personal information for the withdrawal? From what I see, that was only to speed the withdrawal process up. He could have denied and waiting for them to finish the review but no, he wanted to try and pressure them by posting here. Stunna also posted something earlier in the thread that this information was asked because of the Hufflepuff incident.

Amazing thread, if you're a sig spammer, troll or one of OPs alts  

xet -_- I just translated his words into easy language don't point finger on me without any reason

forgotten to quote "5leepyJoe" there

My post was for the others who keep asking that same question about why info was being required.

[MICRO]

he means that if PD can hold his 80 btc and asked for his personal info then how could have PD given Hufflepuff 2400 btc without knowing him will. also he says if stunna is genuine then why he want to close the thread

Where did primedice say they required personal information for the withdrawal? From what I see, that was only to speed the withdrawal process up. He could have denied and waiting for them to finish the review but no, he wanted to try and pressure them by posting here. Stunna also posted something earlier in the thread that this information was asked because of the Hufflepuff incident.

Amazing thread, if you're a sig spammer, troll or one of OPs alts 

xet -_- I just translated his words into easy language don't point finger on me without any reason

forgotten to quote "5leepyJoe" there

My post was for the others who keep asking that same question about why info was being required.

Yes, exactly if he would provided the info that was asked he would get that cashout instantly.
Otherwise he would have to wait for full review of his bets, account, etc...

Also stunna wanted this thread closed because there is nothing more to say and also title is misleading and totally false.

[RichGang]

Its obvious he cheated. Even from the way he was responding after opening the thread. But one question that will like stunna or pd team to answer is,  why do you always ask for id once some wins big??? Why not ask for id when the person deposits big. Atleast I have heard u asking big winners for IDs.
This question is important so high rollers know what they are getting themselves into.
Do u just assume t hat everyone that wins big cheated? Or do u just think everybody that gambles must loose?

[PuraPuraBego]

Oh man why you yell Primedice are scam? This are gambling, as we know gambling it's talking about for "strategy and luck" , "Lost and Win" . With good strategy it's not enough, sometimes you need some ball.

[Daneric]

Just like Micro said, I think this thread should be closed because I feel that it has no basis. When the person joined primedice he knew it is a gambling site and depends on luck to win. Most of us have won and lost knowing very well that it depends on luck to win.

[dooglus]

Any suggestions on a similar gambling site but which is very reliable. I would appreciate some suggestions.

BETKING AND JUSTDICE. Stay off of and rollin. They will try to rig you, if they cant they will say u cheatedvand wont pay u.

Are you recommending betking and just-dice or saying they will "try to rig you"?

Both sites are provably fair. just-dice.com has never refused a withdrawal to any player, never accused any player of cheating, and never "tried to rig" anyone. I remember one case where betking (in a previous life) refused to pay one player who had cheated them, but nothing of the kind ever happened on just-dice.com. We did pay one guy 1300 BTC too much one time by mistake, but that's different.

[HrN]

Any suggestions on a similar gambling site but which is very reliable. I would appreciate some suggestions.

BETKING AND JUSTDICE. Stay off of and rollin. They will try to rig you, if they cant they will say u cheatedvand wont pay u.

Are you recommending betking and just-dice or saying they will "try to rig you"?

Both sites are provably fair. just-dice.com has never refused a withdrawal to any player, never accused any player of cheating, and never "tried to rig" anyone. I remember one case where betking (in a previous life) refused to pay one player who had cheated them, but nothing of the kind ever happened on just-dice.com. We did pay one guy 1300 BTC too much one time by mistake, but that's different.

Nice bro ! Respect for you !
Stunna is a scammer. If really kekeke had a exploit, is Stunna's fault.. So send him the money; +80 BITCOIN. Like dooglus.
Don't be scammer, Stunna ! I don't know you. I don't use your dice site.. I just tested it for time wasting... Damn... you are so...................... :|

[RichGang]

Any suggestions on a similar gambling site but which is very reliable. I would appreciate some suggestions.

BETKING AND JUSTDICE. Stay off of and rollin. They will try to rig you, if they cant they will say u cheatedvand wont pay u.

Are you recommending betking and just-dice or saying they will "try to rig you"?

Both sites are provably fair. just-dice.com has never refused a withdrawal to any player, never accused any player of cheating, and never "tried to rig" anyone. I remember one case where betking (in a previous life) refused to pay one player who had cheated them, but nothing of the kind ever happened on just-dice.com. We did pay one guy 1300 BTC too much one time by mistake, but that's different.

Hi, I meant,  the only 2 trusted sites for me are just dice and betking.
Rollin and co. Are shit sites.
Pd always has one issue or the other to keep them ib the news. All this pd stories are beginning to look like publicity stunts.

[dooglus]

So send him the money; +80 BITCOIN. Like dooglus.

I'm not saying I would pay out cheaters. I am saying that to my knowledge Just-Dice hasn't suffered from any cheaters.

Hi, I meant,  the only 2 trusted sites for me are just dice and betking.

Oh, sweet.

Pd always has one issue or the other to keep them ib the news. All this pd stories are beginning to look like publicity stunts.

But this is bad publicity. Why would they do this on purpose? It makes them look bad.

[RichGang]

Stunna I just made 0.002btc to 0.45btc on another siy. I bet if I did that on pd, stunna an d ed would ask me for ID

[RichGang]

So send him the money; +80 BITCOIN. Like dooglus.

I'm not saying I would pay out cheaters. I am saying that to my knowledge Just-Dice hasn't suffered from any cheaters.

Hi, I meant,  the only 2 trusted sites for me are just dice and betking.

Oh, sweet.

Pd always has one issue or the other to keep them ib the news. All this pd stories are beginning to look like publicity stunts.

But this is bad publicity. Why would they do this on purpose? It makes them look bad.

Yeah it might be bad publicity but it still publicizes the site. I can bet you there are new players there now as a result of this.
Dont mean to be back whipping but the truth is this is stunna does too much publicity stunts. Am even tempted not to believe the hufflepiff story

[Robertt-]

Stunna can afford to pay hackers and cheaters millions, but not my money that I was robbed of.

just-dice and BetKing are probably the most legitimate sites that I know of so far.

[RichGang]

Stunna can afford to pay hackers and cheaters millions, but not my money that I was robbed of.

just-dice and BetKing are probably the most legitimate sites that I know of so far.

As a certified casino critic, I most say yes. Testing out bettetbets soon

[David19]

This thread is turning into a shit storm

[Roboabhishek]

he means that if PD can hold his 80 btc and asked for his personal info then how could have PD given Hufflepuff 2400 btc without knowing him will. also he says if stunna is genuine then why he want to close the thread

Where did primedice say they required personal information for the withdrawal? From what I see, that was only to speed the withdrawal process up. He could have denied and waiting for them to finish the review but no, he wanted to try and pressure them by posting here. Stunna also posted something earlier in the thread that this information was asked because of the Hufflepuff incident.

Amazing thread, if you're a sig spammer, troll or one of OPs alts 

xet -_- I just translated his words into easy language don't point finger on me without any reason

forgotten to quote "5leepyJoe" there

My post was for the others who keep asking that same question about why info was being required.

Yes, exactly if he would provided the info that was asked he would get that cashout instantly.
Otherwise he would have to wait for full review of his bets, account, etc...

Also stunna wanted this thread closed because there is nothing more to say and also title is misleading and totally false.

I now stunna is correct but still I can't understand how he got access to prime dice test server

[MICRO]

Any suggestions on a similar gambling site but which is very reliable. I would appreciate some suggestions.

BETKING AND JUSTDICE. Stay off of and rollin. They will try to rig you, if they cant they will say u cheatedvand wont pay u.

Are you recommending betking and just-dice or saying they will "try to rig you"?

Both sites are provably fair. just-dice.com has never refused a withdrawal to any player, never accused any player of cheating, and never "tried to rig" anyone. I remember one case where betking (in a previous life) refused to pay one player who had cheated them, but nothing of the kind ever happened on just-dice.com. We did pay one guy 1300 BTC too much one time by mistake, but that's different.

There is one big difference here.

Justdice can payout somebody who is cheating with no problems because its not paying from its own bank, instead its paying from investors money so its much easier to just payout and not be asking any questions.

Primedice does not ask big winners for theirs personal info. Primedice is asking that only the players we have reasonable suspicion that they are cheating.
If we cant prove it we will payout (like we did hufllepuff) , if you provide all the info we will payout.
If you don't do that then you will be under investigation and eventually if we cant find proof of you cheating you will be paid out.

So just to be clear, primedice is not asking big winners for theirs info. Most recent huge winner is MrVicenzo88 he won 400+ bitcons at some point and we never asked him anything. Because we had no reason to suspect he is cheating.

[MICRO]

So send him the money; +80 BITCOIN. Like dooglus.

I'm not saying I would pay out cheaters. I am saying that to my knowledge Just-Dice hasn't suffered from any cheaters.

Hi, I meant,  the only 2 trusted sites for me are just dice and betking.

Oh, sweet.

Pd always has one issue or the other to keep them ib the news. All this pd stories are beginning to look like publicity stunts.

But this is bad publicity. Why would they do this on purpose? It makes them look bad.

Yeah it might be bad publicity but it still publicizes the site. I can bet you there are new players there now as a result of this.
Dont mean to be back whipping but the truth is this is stunna does too much publicity stunts. Am even tempted not to believe the hufflepiff story

Ohhh trust me... Stunna wishes that it was just a publicity stunt... Would cost him 2000+ coins less .

[Roboabhishek]

So send him the money; +80 BITCOIN. Like dooglus.

I'm not saying I would pay out cheaters. I am saying that to my knowledge Just-Dice hasn't suffered from any cheaters.

Hi, I meant,  the only 2 trusted sites for me are just dice and betking.

Oh, sweet.

Pd always has one issue or the other to keep them ib the news. All this pd stories are beginning to look like publicity stunts.

But this is bad publicity. Why would they do this on purpose? It makes them look bad.

Yeah it might be bad publicity but it still publicizes the site. I can bet you there are new players there now as a result of this.
Dont mean to be back whipping but the truth is this is stunna does too much publicity stunts. Am even tempted not to believe the hufflepiff story

Yup in this cass totally agreed with you there's no proof that Hufflepuff was not the alt of PD

[actmyname]

Its obvious he cheated. Even from the way he was responding after opening the thread.

You're funny. Let me fetch some quotes from you, who obviously thought that he cheated.

Ok man., I get your point. Its obvious those fuckn scums scammed you. Am surprised that idiots like nlco and the rest aint saying anything about this.
40btc is a big amount to be scammed.
I have always pinned pd on scam site list.
Now people will be careful about them. Only an idiot will keep play there.

But before it was obvious that Primedice scammed him.

I am not waiting for no update. Op seems happy with the 40btc , dosnt really care about remaining 40. Typical behaviour of someone that cheated.

And actually just the day before that, you had the complete opposite opinion again. What are you, a see-saw?

betcoin are smart thieves. Stunna is a brainless thief

[in context of holding the 40 BTC, half of the withdrawal]

Fool shut your smelling mouth up. If he used what ever u fuvker claim he used, why cant u prove iy.
If he lost 80btc stunna will say he was unluvky and idiots like nlco will ask him to verify nets. Why cant I fuckers verify bets and pay him. Pd is down so they can comeup with shit and steal this dude money.

(the hypocrisy is evident)

FROM THE WAY STUNNA IS BEHAVING, I CAN BET MY DICK,  KKK DIDNT CHEAT. Stunna is trying to m anipulate the system now

Now you lose your dick?

Best question.  Am happy u are wiser than the rest just nodding to whatever he say.
The BITTER. TRUTH IS THE SITE IS DOWN SO HE CAN MANIPULATE SSOME SHIT AND THEN SAY KKK CHEATED. He wants to steal the 80btc

Whoops!

Wtf. What a smelling fuckkkkkk.
Everytime someone wins big u come up with this shit. i have seen people loose hundreds of btc on your fuckn site. I saw a guy even loose 120btc on 85%chance of winning. Can I fuckn tell us what expliot u used to scamm him??

Of course. What exploit did PD use to scam kekeke?

Op dosnt need to post any more fuckn proof. Stunna already confirmed he won. So asking for proof is stupid. Stunna is delaying to manipulate the outcome.
Nlco ask YOUR stunna to verify the rolls. It takes 1 min to do so.
That scum is a scammer, plain and simple.

Dude did u read my post. I said no mention of pd orvrillin. Pd just scamned someone of 40btc. Why ask people to go there??

Primedice scam.
If u are a big gambler, avoid it. Here is proof.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1546299.0

You fuckers shouldn't be advertising this scam site.
Here is proof
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1546299.0

And there's a lot more I won't quote.

Stunna can afford to pay hackers and cheaters millions, but not my money that I was robbed of.

just-dice and BetKing are probably the most legitimate sites that I know of so far.

As a certified casino critic, I most say yes. Testing out bettetbets soon

You're certified? Where? And you also state:

You better stop gambling if you can still manage to do so. Gambling addiction is a very serious thing

Not when I make thousands of dollars weekly from it. An a happy addict

That's probably not true. Unless you're a ridiculously strong poker player or have the luck of the gods (and by now you wouldn't even bother going on bitcointalk) you don't make thousands of dollars weekly. Because house edge will make you lose in luck-based games, and all I've seen you post about is in relation to luck-based games.

I now stunna is correct but still I can't understand how he got access to prime dice test server

Please re-read the post.

[RichGang]

Actyourshit, first you are stupid, secondly, you are jobless to go reading everypost on btc talk.
Thirdly, you are a broke and stupid idiot to doubt howbmuch I make. Gambling aint for idiots. Idiots contribute by loosing and the few. Wise ones take the cash by winning using complicated strategys. I am popular in all the sites. I wont disclose my real name. U will get to know me more when I hit my 1000btc goal.  Idiots like u are the reson for the trouble on earth.
THE GUY CHEATED DOSNT MEAN STUNNA OS NOT A SCAMMER. I said it and I never changed with I said.
What happened here is a scammer scamming another scammer. Infact both of them are stupid scammers.
Imagin stunna saying he left a thousand dollar site for some random dude to test. Also imagin op having the opportinity to make millions gradually but insted he opted to suspicioisly turning 0.01 to 80.
How else can stupidity be displayed. Both of them just wasted wasted my time and btctalk space talking this shit and publicizing the site.
Well act, omce again, lemme say FUXK U

[Robertt-]

Actyourshit, first you are stupid, secondly, you are jobless to go reading everypost on btc talk.
Thirdly, you are a broke and stupid idiot to doubt howbmuch I make. Gambling aint for idiots. Idiots contribute by loosing and the few. Wise ones take the cash by winning using complicated strategys. I am popular in all the sites. I wont disclose my real name. U will get to know me more when I hit my 1000btc goal.  Idiots like u are the reson for the trouble on earth.
THE GUY CHEATED DOSNT MEAN STUNNA OS NOT A SCAMMER. I said it and I never changed with I said.
What happened here is a scammer scamming another scammer. Infact both of them are stupid scammers.
Imagin stunna saying he left a thousand dollar site for some random dude to test. Also imagin op having the opportinity to make millions gradually but insted he opted to suspicioisly turning 0.01 to 80.
How else can stupidity be displayed. Both of them just wasted btctalk space talking this shit and publicizing the site.
Well act, omce again, lemme say FUXK U

if you're a billionaire send me 13 BTC

[RichGang]

[quotI author=Robertt- link=topic=1546299.msg15615272#msg15615272 date=1468768225]

Actyourshit, first you are stupid, secondly, you are jobless to go reading everypost on btc talk.
Thirdly, you are a broke and stupid idiot to doubt howbmuch I make. Gambling aint for idiots. Idiots contribute by loosing and the few. Wise ones take the cash by winning using complicated strategys. I am popular in all the sites. I wont disclose my real name. U will get to know me more when I hit my 1000btc goal.  Idiots like u are the reson for the trouble on earth.
THE GUY CHEATED DOSNT MEAN STUNNA OS NOT A SCAMMER. I said it and I never changed with I said.
What happened here is a scammer scamming another scammer. Infact both of them are stupid scammers.
Imagin stunna saying he left a thousand dollar site for some random dude to test. Also imagin op having the opportinity to make millions gradually but insted he opted to suspicioisly turning 0.01 to 80.
How else can stupidity be displayed. Both of them just wasted btctalk space talking this shit and publicizing the site.
Well act, omce again, lemme say FUXK U

if you're a billionaire send me 13 BTC
[/quote]
Lol dude I didnt say I am. I only side I make a few thousands weekly gambling.
Now your 13btc disappeared nd they say its urfault. How else can scam be described.
Like i said stick to betking or jd. I don't hear all tthis shit there

[Roboabhishek]

this thread is becoming a shit storm the OP won't close it is it possible for a mod to close it ?

[anoufal]

well i need to say something here!

My main account in PD is abbas50.

i really hate PD for what they done to my account and muted him permantly for faucet abuse anyway.

i have won once +60 btcs from in less than 1 hour in pd and i had no problems withdrawing what so ever and it was instant !!!! so i dont believe they r scammers but i do believe they dont care about their customers

anyway good luck to u guys

[RichGang]

Kitkat please close this thread. You must be enjoying your cash in an indian strip club now.
Enjoy dude. Afterall stunna scams us of hundreds of bitcoins daily and spemds it with strippers too

[Joel_Jantsen]

Kitkat please close this thread. You must be enjoying your cash in an indian strip club now.
Enjoy dude. Afterall stunna scams us of hundreds of bitcoins daily and spemds it with strippers too

And you're a fuckin idiot.

@Stunna,I'm from India ,if you need any help with suing Kekeke ,I'm the right guy to talk to.We can probably set-up a live team meeting with one of my lawyers and accordingly register a FIR for cyber crime and scam.If you have his personal information,we can directly contact his nearest Superintendent of Police and have this sucker behind the bars.

[Roboabhishek]

Kitkat please close this thread. You must be enjoying your cash in an indian strip club now.
Enjoy dude. Afterall stunna scams us of hundreds of bitcoins daily and spemds it with strippers too

And you're a fuckin idiot.

@Stunna,I'm from India ,if you need any help with suing Kekeke ,I'm the right guy to talk to.We can probably set-up a live team meeting with one of my lawyers and accordingly register a FIR for cyber crime and scam.If you have his personal information,we can directly contact his nearest Superintendent of Police and have this sucker behind the bars.

Instead of lurking around better PM him also how much your lawyer will charge
I don't think he will offer free service just for a gambling issue

[Joel_Jantsen]

Instead of lurking around better PM him also how much your lawyer will charge
I don't think he will for free just for a gambling issue

>Define Lurking.

>Of course not.Does any law or crime registration work in India without bribing the cops ?Unless you have a family background with Indian Police Service.I think/I may know/have people with that and personally I'm keen on nailing Indian scammers.

[Trayber]

Kitkat please close this thread. You must be enjoying your cash in an indian strip club now.
Enjoy dude. Afterall stunna scams us of hundreds of bitcoins daily and spemds it with strippers too

And you're a fuckin idiot.

@Stunna,I'm from India ,if you need any help with suing Kekeke ,I'm the right guy to talk to.We can probably set-up a live team meeting with one of my lawyers and accordingly register a FIR for cyber crime and scam.If you have his personal information,we can directly contact his nearest Superintendent of Police and have this sucker behind the bars.

Is this a bought account? I'm sorry but I call bs I never met an Indian guy named Joel 

[suchmoon]

Kitkat please close this thread. You must be enjoying your cash in an indian strip club now.
Enjoy dude. Afterall stunna scams us of hundreds of bitcoins daily and spemds it with strippers too

And you're a fuckin idiot.

@Stunna,I'm from India ,if you need any help with suing Kekeke ,I'm the right guy to talk to.We can probably set-up a live team meeting with one of my lawyers and accordingly register a FIR for cyber crime and scam.If you have his personal information,we can directly contact his nearest Superintendent of Police and have this sucker behind the bars.

Is this a bought account? I'm sorry but I call bs I never met an Indian guy named Joel 

You've met every person in India and verified that everyone is using their real names on the intertubes? That's quite impressive. I suggest you do China next.

[RichGang]

Kitkat please close this thread. You must be enjoying your cash in an indian strip club now.
Enjoy dude. Afterall stunna scams us of hundreds of bitcoins daily and spemds it with strippers too

And you're a fuckin idiot.

@Stunna,I'm from India ,if you need any help with suing Kekeke ,I'm the right guy to talk to.We can probably set-up a live team meeting with one of my lawyers and accordingly register a FIR for cyber crime and scam.If you have his personal information,we can directly contact his nearest Superintendent of Police and have this sucker behind the bars.

Scammer spotted. So you want stunna to pay you say 5btc to hire a lawyer and maybe bribe some indian cops right?
You are a definition of a stupid ass moron. That dude got 2million rupees in his arsenal. So u think he wont bribe those currupt cops too?
Try harder fag. Instead of trying out this senseless scam, learm how to hack and destroys stunnas siteblike kitkat and hufflepuff.
But u brain os filled with cum so learning that will be too complicated. Best is go back to the farm

[Roboabhishek]

Guys really this thread is becoming a shit storm as it was told earlier. I don't know what is wrong with MODS they are not closing this topic.
This topic has totally gone in Off direction " suchmoon " Please report this thread and its starter for not obeying to the rules of Bitcointalk.

[moooonu]

well there are a few legit players in here who can do it without cheating one of the perfect example is MrVincenzo88 and myata0261. I never doubted pd ever about its provably fair system.