[Primedice] Beware Guyz, Scamming HR!!!!!!

[MarkMJ]

What can I say stunna! 
You are fucked.

[sonnysurya]

what is the problem of winning 80 btc? the chance of winning or losing is random. everyone can win or lose.
so, you expect all users to be lose, stunna?

[kitticat]

I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.

yeah, these fuckrs will hire a english writer now, nd will post a clean nd crystal clear content not abe to fnd any wrong int that, nd will say im cheated. do u offer? dear ass im not begging u. its my btc

I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation.

it will take time u want to read books, methods to fool users

Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.

r u kidding?. do u still think people here r stupid?

[torry28]

what is the problem of winning 80 btc? the chance of winning or losing is random. everyone can win or lose.
so, you expect all users to be lose, stunna?

it's not the problem. We already seen so many people won a lot from Primedice, also Primedice team always said "congratulations for people who won more than 100 btc" in social media (facebook), so they aren't expect/hoping all user to lose, also they have provably fair system which can't determine someone will lose or win.

[Eremitos]

I can imagin anyting I want. Yes asking someone for id could be so they track and kill or rob him. They have be en valid cases of similar things happening. If someone could go from 130btc to 0btc, why cant someone go from 0.01 btc to 80 btv or more. Why apply the logic on one side only.
Dosnt matter if those scammers pay or not. There are still scammers. People win bigger amounds on betking and jd and I dont har this shit

Yea, it's like when you are playing 2x and you get 27 reds in a row.

They say "you were unlucky".

But if you were betting with double on win, as in, stack your winnings into next bet, and started with just 0.00000010 and got 27 greens.

They would say "Impossible. Exploit!".

Yet the odds, roughly the same. The payout. More than 80BTC.

It's a 1 in ~102,596,558 chance to get 27 reds in a row.
But you don't bet just once, do you? No. You bet multiple times. Hence, more possibilities to lose.

It's a 1 in ~176,059,567 chance to get 27 greens in a row.
But you don't get more than one chance. If you falter on that 49.5% win rate on any of your 27 bets, you lose.

Do you see the difference in odds? More a 70% difference. 70% rarer to get greens than reds.

This is the house edge. This is statistics.

Every single wager you place returns you [statistically] 99% of what you wagered (given this h.e.).
Example:

You bet 1 BTC on 50% twice. You win once and you lose once. You get 0.98 BTC back.
You gained 1.98 BTC on the winning bet, and you lost 1 BTC on the losing bet. You "broke even" but still lost.

Yet the odds, roughly the same. The payout. More than 80BTC.

The odds are not roughly the same. Nowhere near.

Continuing on, the odds for red would only increase as you bet more and more. This is not an opinionated answer. These are raw facts.

Continue your ignorance, or face the fact that you don't understand how "provably fair" works.

Provably fair has nothing do with what you wrote. That's just stats. But then again - odds of losing 28 times are smaller than winning 27 times and you still be saying "unlucky, can happen". The point is, as you said before in one of your posts - "anything that can happen, eventually will". So it happened that guy won 80 BTC. Pay him. If provably fair justifies all strangest losing streaks, it does also justifies all strangest winning streaks. No matter if it's 1 in 100 or 1 in 200.

Plus, there is one more thing - security thing. If anyone's account gets hacked, PD simply says "it's not our problem, security is your issue". And then it admits there are exploits. So it is possible that account got compromised because of PD fault and not player fault. Yet we have no possibility to investigate anything, not to mention refunding. So if PD don't care about players security, players simply don't care about PD security. You have no right to investigate and expect refund just as players have no right to do it. Guy won? Pay him!

The only tool players have is bet verification. Suspicious about losing streak? Verify bets. If verification is positive, that ends the case. So I say the same - you have problem with kekeke's winnings? Verify his bets. No further questions, no further activities. How can we know, if it isn't manipulation? After so many days PD  can come up with any prepared "proofs" about kekeke's "cheating" they want. After all they are the ones who control servers. And they did extensive changes called "maintenance" in last days, so now nobody would be able to get the truth about how things really looked when kekeke was betting and who really cheated - player or maybe quite opposite.

[RichGang]

Eritus,  that the best comment here. If I get 30 reds and loosr 80btc, idioys like nlco and stunna will say verify bets. Now if I win 80btc why not verify bets you usless fuckers. Pay that dude his cssh

[RichGang]

  FROM THE WAY STUNNA IS BEHAVING, I CAN BET MY DICK,  KKK DIDNT CHEAT. Stunna is trying to m anipulate the system now

[HeyYouGuys]

Its not impossible to hit 9900x wins close together. I did it once, I think something like 130 apart.

I mean, I was betting 1 satoshi. But if I had been betting 0.00020000 rolls, I would have won 40btc.

It can happen.

As they say "you were just very unlucky".

As can also be true "wow thats very lucky".

In regards to the above posts about provably fair; no comment as provably fair has zero effect on odds of rolls.

[kitticat]

Weeeeelll said eritmos. kudos man... these ass getting for manipulation work now. yep richgang fuck that shit adm.

[Quickseller]

Weeeeelll said eritmos. kudos man... these ass getting for manipulation work now. yep richgang fuck that shit adm.

You do realize that it is bliently obvious that you are using a ridiculous number of sockpuppets in this and other PD threads?

[HeyYouGuys]

FROM THE WAY STUNNA IS BEHAVING, I CAN BET MY DICK,  KKK DIDNT CHEAT. Stunna is trying to m anipulate the system now

I do find it so bizarre the way they run their site. The site just "poof" vanishes. No comments from mods, anything for like an hour or so. No tweets since March on their Twitter page.

2 Hours go by, and a mod MICRO says "yeah we have maintenance regularly".

Ummmm ok, well why not announce it first so people can stop betting, withdraw if need be.

Then like 12 hours later Stunna chimes in, "We have server problems, it's our hosting company".

I thought you were doing maintenance?

The site was working just fine, for me and everyone. Why don't you stop doing maintenance. I mean, its all pointing fingers at their service providers, passing blame, and treating their customers disrespectfully.

I mean, to just kick everyone, not allow withdraws, no information. Its just bad business.

Lastly, he said 5 hours ago "should be up in 3.5 hours".

Primedice... The world's most unreliable and unmanaged bitcoin casino dice site.

[RichGang]

Weeeeelll said eritmos. kudos man... these ass getting for manipulation work now. yep richgang fuck that shit adm.

You do realize that it is bliently obvious that you are using a ridiculous number of sockpuppets in this and other PD threads?

Who are the puppets?
Man u should stfu. You dont know shit about gambling. When u ever bet 5 btc amd losse and then have this scammers say u lost because u where unlucky, then come comment here. For now, ur opinion dont matter cos u aint even a gambler

[RichGang]

FROM THE WAY STUNNA IS BEHAVING, I CAN BET MY DICK,  KKK DIDNT CHEAT. Stunna is trying to m anipulate the system now

I do find it so bizarre the way they run their site. The site just "poof" vanishes. No comments from mods, anything for like an hour or so. No tweets since March on their Twitter page.

2 Hours go by, and a mod MICRO says "yeah we have maintenance regularly".

Ummmm ok, well why not announce it first so people can stop betting, withdraw if need be.

Then like 12 hours later Stunna chimes in, "We have server problems, it's our hosting company".

I thought you were doing maintenance?

The site was working just fine, for me and everyone. Why don't you stop doing maintenance. I mean, its all pointing fingers at their service providers, passing blame, and treating their customers disrespectfully.

I mean, to just kick everyone, not allow withdraws, no information. Its just bad business.

Lastly, he said 5 hours ago "should be up in 3.5 hours".

Primedice... The world's most unreliable and unmanaged bitcoin casino dice site.

Well said dude. Its strange how they suddenly started site maintance after scam accusations. Then suddenly, they say its from the service provider. Be smart guys,  THE ANSWERS ARE CLEAR

[Noctis Connor]

For me this is not necessary to ask that kind of details, its too dangerous to give your profile. Once your profile is on the internet, it will stay forever and you cannot erase it. And I am wondering why would he ask that questions?

[Quickseller]

Weeeeelll said eritmos. kudos man... these ass getting for manipulation work now. yep richgang fuck that shit adm.

You do realize that it is bliently obvious that you are using a ridiculous number of sockpuppets in this and other PD threads?

Who are the puppets?
Man u should stfu. You dont know shit about gambling. When u ever bet 5 btc amd losse and then have this scammers say u lost because u where unlucky, then come comment here. For now, ur opinion dont matter cos u aint even a gambler

Pretty much anyone who has posted negatively about PD in this thread is clearly a sockpuppet, it is very clear (at least to me.

I do gamble occasionally, however I do not gamble more then I am willing to lose as I understand that gambling is well gambling. With provably fair, it is possible for the gambler to ensure that the casino did not cheat the player, however it is not possible to verify that the player did not cheat the casino using provably fair alone.

With provably fair, two seeds, one from the casino and one from the player (and sometimes a nonce) will be added together using some formula that the casino discloses to players ahead of time. To ensure that a casino is in fact provably fair, the casino will first commit to a "server" seed, and will give you the hash of the server seed, the player then selects a client seed (and writes down/copies both the server and client seed, and nonce if applicable), then the player places his bet. After the result of the bet is determined, the casino will reveal the actual server seed, and the player can verify that the hash they were provided is in fact the has of the actual server seed. The player can them independently verify that the bet/roll was calculated correctly.

In the case of what the OP/you did is that you somehow were able to figure out the actual server seed prior to it being disclosed to you, either by tricking the server to select a certain server seed, somehow tricking the server into disclosing the server seed to you prior to the bet, or something similar. By knowing both the server seed and the client seed in advance, then you can calculate the outcome of the roll ahead of time and bet accordingly. So it is not as simple to "verify the bets" when checking if someone cheated the casino, but you already knew that, didn't you Danny?

[Daneric]

This is becoming scary. Why is the site down? So many reasons given and it is taking a lot of time.I had a few in my account but they can not make me go bankrupt just in case PD disappears forever. Any suggestions on a similar gambling site but which is very reliable. I would appreciate some suggestions.

[RichGang]

This quickseller needs to ve forced to eat rotten dog shit. I never knew peoole could be this stupid

[BayAreaCoins]

I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.

I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.

So he made the withdraw to kekeke... then why are people saying it is down to steal some dudes 80 BTC if he has them?

[RichGang]

This is becoming scary. Why is the site down? So ma reasons given and it is taking a lot of time.I had a few in my account but they can not make me go bankrupt just in case PD disappears forever. Any suggestions on a similar gambling site but which is very reliable. I would appreciate some suggestions.

BETKING AND JUSTDICE. Stay off of and rollin. They will try to rig you, if they cant they will say u cheatedvand wont pay u.

[RichGang]

I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.

I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.

So he made the withdraw to kekeke... then why are people saying it is down to steal some dudes 80 BTC if he has them?

They are holding his 40btc