[Primedice] Beware Guyz, Scamming HR!!!!!!

[Quickseller]

This quickseller needs to ve forced to eat rotten dog shit. I never knew peoole could be this stupid

I apologize, do you prefer that I call you Zeyue?

[BayAreaCoins]

I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.

I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.

So he made the withdraw to kekeke... then why are people saying it is down to steal some dudes 80 BTC if he has them?

They are holding his 40btc

Ah so they processed half is withdraw and are making up an excuse for the other half?

Betcoin.ag did something similar not long ago.  Paid enough to keep the winner quiet but weaseled out on the other chunk.

Super lame

[Noctis Connor]

I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.

I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.

So he made the withdraw to kekeke... then why are people saying it is down to steal some dudes 80 BTC if he has them?

So this is the reason now why the admin was asking that questions. This is a big loss for primedice, if it is true that he used an exploit then the admin has the right to know the details about him, but if not, it will not be necessary. They really need to fix that problem as soon as possible, people are growing impatient.

[RichGang]

I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.

I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.

So he made the withdraw to kekeke... then why are people saying it is down to steal some dudes 80 BTC if he has them?

They are holding his 40btc

Ah so they processed half is withdraw and are making up an excuse for the other half?

Betcoin.ag did something similar not long ago.  Paid enough to keep the winner quiet but weaseled out on the other chunk.

Super lame

betcoin are smart thieves. Stunna is a brainless thief

[RichGang]

This quickseller needs to ve forced to eat rotten dog shit. I never knew peoole could be this stupid

I apologize, do you prefer that I call you Zeyue?

Call me any shit. I will only call u a stupid idiot

[Eremitos]

Weeeeelll said eritmos. kudos man... these ass getting for manipulation work now. yep richgang fuck that shit adm.

You do realize that it is bliently obvious that you are using a ridiculous number of sockpuppets in this and other PD threads?

Really? I expected more of you than just simply considering me an alt of kitticat. So should I say you're just an alt or employee of stunna? I brought some arguments and you didn't reponse to them at all. All you do is praising PD. That's quite pathetic.

So it is not as simple to "verify the bets" when checking if someone cheated the casino, but you already knew that, didn't you Danny?

Well I guess it's not as simple as "verify the bets" when checking if casino cheated you. At least as long as its code isn't open-source.

[Dank Frank]

Just wait on stunna's explanation. He said the user exploited the site and would do his story later on.

[Dyatrev]

quickseller just because ppl saying something is wrong that doesnt make them sockpuppets otherwise you would be called sockpuppet too btw you are proven scammer at this community too with your failed many personality same escrow thingy right?

[David19]

I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.

I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.

So he made the withdraw to kekeke... then why are people saying it is down to steal some dudes 80 BTC if he has them?

They are holding his 40btc

Ah so they processed half is withdraw and are making up an excuse for the other half?

Betcoin.ag did something similar not long ago.  Paid enough to keep the winner quiet but weaseled out on the other chunk.

Super lame

I'm fairly certain the user exploited primedice. I also have an idea how he did it. It has been patched now for few days. I'm waiting for Stunna's explanation to see if i am correct or not.

[Stunna]

Just wait on stunna's explanation. He said the user exploited the site and would do his story later on.

This has gone too far.

During the development of PD4 we kept a testserver where we did our testing. A user named jlairy was assisting with the testing which you can see via his post history and profile. We finished testing and launched PD4 but the test server remained up. Without my knowledge our developers ran a test environment on this server shortly after launch which ran a fork of the DB.  Jlairy aka fundice aka kekeke aka kittikat figured this out and changed his seed on the test server which reflected his next seed on Primedice (PD was storing the next seed to save a request).

We came to this realization after briefly looking into him when he had turned 0.01 into 80 coins. I checked his depositing address which he sent the 0.01 from: https://blockchain.info/address/1BMmWpSq6N3swc5RYs7dSn2HewELKRdzv2 and found a blockchain note that said "Public Note: Withdraw to niti201012 from In India LIMITED" for a few transactions from a couple years ago.


Looking up Niti201012 resulted in finding this reddit thread: https://m.reddit.com/r/Primedice/comments/36cgna/happy_hour_starting_now/  . If you look at the comments you'll see the reddit account Niti201012 posting for one of our giveaways.

https://www.reddit.com/user/niti201012  Look at this account and view the first comment
"usr:fundice date:sep 7 2015 pd awesome while playing and fun still i dont earn nothing"

This was the eureka moment for me as kekeke who I had suspected of cheating was linked to "fundice" one of our testers . Immediately I talked to my developers and found out about the new irresponsible test environment on that same test server ip address which he had tested on at some point. When we looked at our test environment DB this is what we saw.

List of users registered on test environment:



Note Kekeke (the abusing account) on that list.

When comparing seeds on test environment versus primedice:





Note the 41c8 seed match between the test environment and the live website. This could have been worse than hufflepuff if Kittikat was not as sloppy as he was, fortunately he only managed to cashout 40 bitcoins before we figured this out. Edward was right to stop this cashout and demand information and his instinct was correct. I chose not to post any identifying information about fundice/kekeke/kittikat in this thread, we are pursuing legal action.

In summary kekeke revealed his seed on the test server, which allowed him to predict his next bets, allowing him to wager 0.01 into 80 btc. This threw up a red flag and when investigated we figured out how he had cheated us and put a stop to it. I'm honestly shocked he continued to post on this forum after we took down the test server and forced a seed reset the same day as his post. The test enviroment was a huge oversight on our side but I'm glad we were able to resolve this quickly, what fundice/kekeke did was still a major abuse of trust.

Here are where some of the funds ended up so far:
https://blockchain.info/address/18Z2y6T2t6g7Bbo4pLpmZ8Fbkcgpy98EYQ

https://blockchain.info/address/1FH7ZgWZpaxSZd29Tdra6rH9snSmwCAxe1

This thread should be closed.

[Dyatrev]

Just wait on stunna's explanation. He said the user exploited the site and would do his story later on.

This has gone too far.

During the development of PD4 we kept a testserver where we did our testing. A user named jlairy was assisting with the testing which you can see via his post history and profile. We finished testing and launched PD4 but the test server remained up. Without my knowledge our developers ran a test environment on this server shortly after launch which ran a fork of the DB.  Jlairy aka fundice aka kekeke aka kittikat figured this out and changed his seed on the test server which reflected his next seed on Primedice (PD was storing the next seed to save a request).

We came to this realization after briefly looking into him when he had turned 0.01 into 80 coins. I checked his depositing address which he sent the 0.01 from: https://blockchain.info/address/1BMmWpSq6N3swc5RYs7dSn2HewELKRdzv2 and found a blockchain note that said "Public Note: Withdraw to niti201012 from In India LIMITED" for a few transactions from a couple years ago.


Looking up Niti201012 resulted in finding this reddit thread: https://m.reddit.com/r/Primedice/comments/36cgna/happy_hour_starting_now/  . If you look at the comments you'll see the reddit account Niti201012 posting for one of our giveaways.

https://www.reddit.com/user/niti201012  Look at this account and view the first comment
"usr:fundice date:sep 7 2015 pd awesome while playing and fun still i dont earn nothing"

This was the eureka moment for me as kekeke who I had suspected of cheating was linked to "fundice" one of our testers . Immediately I talked to my developers and found out about the new irresponsible test environment on that same test server ip address which he had tested on at some point. When we looked at our test environment DB this is what we saw.

List of users registered on test environment:



Note Kekeke (the abusing account) on that list.

When comparing seeds on test environment versus primedice:





Note the 41c8 seed match between the test environment and the live website. This could have been worse than hufflepuff if Kittikat was not as sloppy as he was, fortunately he only managed to cashout 40 bitcoins before we figured this out. Edward was right to stop this cashout and demand information and his instinct was correct. I chose not to post any identifying information about fundice/kekeke/kittikat in this thread, we are pursuing legal action.

In summary kekeke revealed his seed on the test server, which allowed him to predict his next bets, allowing him to wager 0.01 into 80 btc. This threw up a red flag and when investigated we figured out how he had cheated us and put a stop to it. I'm honestly shocked he continued to post on this forum after we took down the test server and forced a seed reset the same day as his post. The test enviroment was a huge oversight on our side but I'm glad we were able to resolve this quickly, what fundice/kekeke did was still a major abuse of trust.

This thread should be closed.

so you tested your site with some stranger?

and i know fundice at pd his way of speaking not even close to kekeke i know fundice because i didnt believe him when he said he was on test server and i mocked him for days then when pd4 released i appologized to him

[David19]

Interesting. I thought he used another exploit.

[suchmoon]

so you tested your site with some stranger?

and i know fundice at pd his way of speaking not even close to kekeke i know fundice because i didnt believe him when he said he was on test server and i mocked him for days then when pd4 released i appologized to him

Stranger or not - that wasn't the problem, not the biggest problem anyway. It's the PD geniuses who used production seeds on the test server, if I'm reading this correctly. Luckily the perp wasn't smart enough to keep a low profile and drain it slowly. Dodged a serious bullet there Stunna.

[Stunna]

so you tested your site with some stranger?

and i know fundice at pd his way of speaking not even close to kekeke i know fundice because i didnt believe him when he said he was on test server and i mocked him for days then when pd4 released i appologized to him

Stranger or not - that wasn't the problem, not the biggest problem anyway. It's the PD geniuses who used production seeds on the test server, if I'm reading this correctly. Luckily the perp wasn't smart enough to keep a low profile and drain it slowly. Dodged a serious bullet there Stunna.

Yeah, certainly a mistake. Our developer also forgot that we store the next seed, we'll be changing how that works most likely. I'm curious to see if kekeke will duck his head back on this forum or not.

[David19]

so you tested your site with some stranger?

and i know fundice at pd his way of speaking not even close to kekeke i know fundice because i didnt believe him when he said he was on test server and i mocked him for days then when pd4 released i appologized to him

Stranger or not - that wasn't the problem, not the biggest problem anyway. It's the PD geniuses who used production seeds on the test server, if I'm reading this correctly. Luckily the perp wasn't smart enough to keep a low profile and drain it slowly. Dodged a serious bullet there Stunna.

I agree. This was certainly PD developers fault of leaving the beta site up. Fortunately for primedice the exploiter wasn't one of the brightest guys in the world. They should feel lucky that they only lost 40BTC.

[Stunna]

so you tested your site with some stranger?

and i know fundice at pd his way of speaking not even close to kekeke i know fundice because i didnt believe him when he said he was on test server and i mocked him for days then when pd4 released i appologized to him

Stranger or not - that wasn't the problem, not the biggest problem anyway. It's the PD geniuses who used production seeds on the test server, if I'm reading this correctly. Luckily the perp wasn't smart enough to keep a low profile and drain it slowly. Dodged a serious bullet there Stunna.

I agree. This was certainly PD developers fault of leaving the beta site up. Fortunately for primedice the exploiter wasn't one of the brightest guys in the world. They should feel lucky that they only lost 40BTC.

We really do feel lucky. This would have been pretty undetectable.

[RichGang]

Now ke ke ke reply to this accusations.
From the way you where responding to this thread, I told you,  I feel u cheated.
Well I will like to hear your side of this story. I wont be fast to believe everything stunna posted here till u say something.
But. I see so many proofs pointing to the ditection that you cheated. Well waiting for ur response.
And now to you stunna, if a random dude could cheat, it means u can also cheat rollers. Are u gonna tell me that a random dude can access ur site and cheat but u cant access ur site and cheat high rollers?

[Dyatrev]

Now ke ke ke reply to this accusations.
From the way you where responding to this thread, I told you,  I feel u cheated.
Well I will like to hear your side of this story. I wont be fast to believe everything stunna posted here till u say something.
But. I see so many proofs pointing to the ditection that you cheated. Well waiting for ur response.
And now to you stunna, if a random dude could cheat, it means u can also cheat rollers. Are u gonna tell me that a random dude can access ur site and cheat but u cant access ur site and cheat high rollers?

richgang this kind of cheat is possible if players invest at pd and stunna start to play against this money but as you know there is nothing like that

stunna investing money players playing against that money

[MICRO]

Now ke ke ke reply to this accusations.
From the way you where responding to this thread, I told you,  I feel u cheated.
Well I will like to hear your side of this story. I wont be fast to believe everything stunna posted here till u say something.
But. I see so many proofs pointing to the ditection that you cheated. Well waiting for ur response.
And now to you stunna, if a random dude could cheat, it means u can also cheat rollers. Are u gonna tell me that a random dude can access ur site and cheat but u cant access ur site and cheat high rollers?

LOL. If you would to understand how he cheated and to understand provably fair you would know answer to that question.

[MarkMJ]

richgang this kind of cheat is possible if players invest at pd and stunna start to play against this money but as you know there is nothing like that

stunna investing money players playing against that money

I just made a copy past!
Because you said well.