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Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.
It is illegal because you are stealing something and this is money, maybe bitcoin does not have any value to most people in the world but it is very valuable in the crypto world and doesn't cost cheap, whatever the amount is it is still stealing money.
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I will guess to think that anything that has value to someone and that does not belong to you, in obtaining it without their consent is stealing. There are laws in place to protect people from having their possessions taken from them without any authorization from them.
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Stealing is taking another person's property without permission or and without intending to return it. Since you said that what if you bought address with a bitcoin already on it, well conscience of yours would be the judge. In the first place the owner did not know and it is clear to his mind that you are not doing anything wrong. So it is likely you did not stole it but seems like that since you know that it really belongs on him. But stealing is of course illegal.
Well yeah stealing is always illegal, in every ways and every countries and that’s the fact which everyone knows but in your case, which you have a bitcoin wallet with bitcoin in it, I don’t know should we ever call it stealing. I mean this is like one in a billion and it’s an incredible and unbelievable coincidence so it’s up to you now, only conscience can answer.
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Stealing can be be illegal because if you are arrested by NBI it means its illegal also bitcoin is money so its illegal to steal bitcoin to others..
of course it is definitely illegal and you cannot steal from the people because you would surely get a lot of trouble with law Stealing could be illegal but it doesn't mean that bitcoin would be illegal, bitcoin is mean money, we use bitcoin and we earn bitcoin in a different ways. In my view, only illegal ways of earning is illegal not bitcoin. it not only could be illegal but it is really illegal and i think that it will never be an allowed thing to do to be honest
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August 25, 2016, 09:38:38 PM |
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Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.
Stealing is always stealing, no matter what if this is cryptocurrency or teaddy bear or candy. Its forbidden by law and pursued by authorities. So just dont.
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August 25, 2016, 10:36:33 PM |
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Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.
Stealing is always stealing, no matter what if this is cryptocurrency or teaddy bear or candy. Its forbidden by law and pursued by authorities. So just dont. you are right it is never going to be legal unless we will live in some kind of an anarchy, i think that you should never do that
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August 25, 2016, 11:44:58 PM |
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Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.
Stealing is always stealing, no matter what if this is cryptocurrency or teaddy bear or candy. Its forbidden by law and pursued by authorities. So just dont. i agree with you , you are right that every thing stealing is illegal , so its not good that steal something from other i think they can get punished by law.
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August 25, 2016, 11:50:43 PM |
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Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.
Stealing is always stealing, no matter what if this is cryptocurrency or teaddy bear or candy. Its forbidden by law and pursued by authorities. So just dont. Its something very unusual to get, generating a new adress and it has some coins inside, makes no sense, but someone had reported this kind of situation already, but well how to deal with such situation, as the owner doesnt know someone else has acess to the coins, atleast i do believe in that. I would be pissed if someone make a new adress and take my bitcoins away.
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August 26, 2016, 12:04:25 AM |
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Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.
Stealing is always stealing, no matter what if this is cryptocurrency or teaddy bear or candy. Its forbidden by law and pursued by authorities. So just dont. Its something very unusual to get, generating a new adress and it has some coins inside, makes no sense, but someone had reported this kind of situation already, but well how to deal with such situation, as the owner doesnt know someone else has acess to the coins, atleast i do believe in that. I would be pissed if someone make a new adress and take my bitcoins away. Wow. This truly happened? I thoughy addresses are unique and its like a .00001 percent before it can generate the same address. It is almost like impossible. It is really a miracle but who would rely on that and many addresses have nothing in their accounts.
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August 26, 2016, 12:23:36 AM |
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Obviously it is illegal.... really?
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August 26, 2016, 12:26:00 AM |
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Obviously it is illegal.... really?
This is a grey area in the courts actually. There was a files claim about someone who ruled that bitcoin is not valued the same as fiat so the case got thrown out of court against the person who said bitcoin was stolen from them. ![Lips sealed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif)
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August 26, 2016, 12:29:25 AM |
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As long as the word stealing is used its always be illegal . It's a crime in every country. But the chances of stealing bitcoin will only happen when your cellphone got rob and their got the access on your phone probably that's the only time they got a chance to steal your bitcoin. So still let is all be careful on our data ad on our personal belongings.
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August 26, 2016, 12:31:24 AM |
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Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.
Stealing is always stealing, no matter what if this is cryptocurrency or teaddy bear or candy. Its forbidden by law and pursued by authorities. So just dont. I don't think in the law is listed about stealing the magic is tested by op, maybe if that is applied to a real situation it's correct but we need to considering the secondary things of the op's situation.
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August 26, 2016, 12:48:24 AM |
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Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.
Stealing is always stealing, no matter what if this is cryptocurrency or teaddy bear or candy. Its forbidden by law and pursued by authorities. So just dont. I don't think in the law is listed about stealing the magic is tested by op, maybe if that is applied to a real situation it's correct but we need to considering the secondary things of the op's situation. OP does not steal bitcoin to someone else he just generate a new bitcoin wallet and he got the address with free bitcoin balance that is why he say that is miracle i do not see the form of stealing in that scenario. correct me if i am wrong.
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August 26, 2016, 05:02:06 AM |
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Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.
Stealing is always stealing, no matter what if this is cryptocurrency or teaddy bear or candy. Its forbidden by law and pursued by authorities. So just dont. Correct. I don't undestand why OP asked such a stupid question. how could be stealing money legal? everyone knows that stealing is a crime and thief will never be forgiven.
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August 26, 2016, 05:05:47 AM |
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Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.
Stealing is always stealing, no matter what if this is cryptocurrency or teaddy bear or candy. Its forbidden by law and pursued by authorities. So just dont. Correct. I don't undestand why OP asked such a stupid question. how could be stealing money legal? everyone knows that stealing is a crime and thief will never be forgiven. OP just want to know "what if" you generated a new bitcoin address, OP also stated that he know that the "odd" is very low and he just wan to know...My view on this is it is not illegal, coz you didn't mean it, unless you "intentionally" do that... But if you are willing to return it to the rightful owner and its just that no one is claiming, then it is yours and that is not stealing... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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August 26, 2016, 05:27:23 AM |
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Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.
stealing bitcoins is not illegal but they cant steal your bitcoins without a private key so dont worry they wont get your bitcoins unless someone knows your private key they can have access in your account if they have a private key
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Of course it is illegal. Every type of stealing is illegal in my opinion.
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August 26, 2016, 07:34:50 AM |
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Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.
Stealing is always stealing, no matter what if this is cryptocurrency or teaddy bear or candy. Its forbidden by law and pursued by authorities. So just dont. I don't think in the law is listed about stealing the magic is tested by op, maybe if that is applied to a real situation it's correct but we need to considering the secondary things of the op's situation. OP does not steal bitcoin to someone else he just generate a new bitcoin wallet and he got the address with free bitcoin balance that is why he say that is miracle i do not see the form of stealing in that scenario. correct me if i am wrong. He made this thread just to get opinion to others because he didn't expect to generate a new address with there's already Bitcoin into it which is probably owned by someone already. He ask question about stealing because he might intend to get those Bitcoin on newly generated address.
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Of course, stealing is illegal. But if Bitcoins appear in your wallet by miracle, I think it is okay ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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