Is it stealing when you get the funds from an address you find?

[Bitware]

No matter what scenario you spin, they're not your coins, so yes, it's theft.

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[AgentofCoin]

No matter what scenario you spin, they're not your coins, so yes, it's theft.

How about this for scenario, technically there are no coins.
The only thing that exists is the private key which proves right to control.

So... did someone steal your coins, or stole your right to control?

If two of more people have the same right to control, does the existence of having that = legal theft?
If two or more people have the same right to control, how do you prove who had that right first?
How can the law determine how theft occurred in a system where the only knowable is key control?
If the "theft" occurs within the Bitcoin network, how will the average "authorities" investigate it?
How will the "authorities" even know if your claim of "theft" is true, and not a (insurance or other) scam?

Stealing may be stealing, but can someone steal something that you never owned?

[razor5cl]

I think we can all agree(and everyone seems to have agreed) that morally/ethically it would be stealing. The issue is whether the law sees it as a crime, and this of course depends on the country and local laws. As others have said bitcoin in general is a tricky legal field, we're basically trying to apply centralized regulations and guidelines to a decentralized currency, so this presents a tricky challenge for legislators. Most countries have restricted laws on bitcoin to financial laws, IE, AML/KYC laws.

[macedoniantable]

I wouldn't say it is.
It is their mistake and if you make a mistake you pay the consequences.

[socks435]

Yeah thats stealing bitcoin if you get the funds from the address you bruteforce and hack..
So we will say that its stealing and its one of the bad thing if you are in real life doing it in other people you can be arrested by police..

[shield132]

Yes, it's stealing and I will tell you why

Imagine that if your house door is closed and someone find key and opened it and take all money from it, what will you say, isn't it stealing? Yes, it's still stealing but thief isn't very guilty here.

I will say that whatever chance you have, you mustn't steal enything, even one cent because no one likes same action if he/she is victim.

[Arcteryx]

Yeah thats stealing bitcoin if you get the funds from the address you bruteforce and hack..
So we will say that its stealing and its one of the bad thing if you are in real life doing it in other people you can be arrested by police..

I would say so because bruteforce hack is just as if they broke into a safe full of money with dynamite or plastic (the safe bomb material that they use in the movies. ).
They should be fully charged to the extent of the law if that is the case.

[PsursV]

if some one sent you funds accidentally, you are not responsible for that but if you know the person or address and still you are not returning his bitcoin then it can be consider as stealing,

[ethereumhunter]

for both case A and B, i think this is stealing. for case A, you are really stealing that funds. for case B, its stealing  because its belong to someone wallet address but not pure stealing because we only found the funds on the wallet address by an accidentally. its up to you, what you want to do with that funds. better you generate other wallet address if this is make you feel alright and not feel that you are stealing somebody funds.

[ajmagz09]

well good for you if got its private key. well its stealing though, i just feel sorry to the one you stole the bitcoins. haha. well thats life, theres a hacker and theres someone who got hacked. then cycle again. but if its by accident or you receive funds on a random address. it luck!

[Maesters1-]

well good for you if got its private key. well its stealing though, i just feel sorry to the one you stole the bitcoins. haha. well thats life, theres a hacker and theres someone who got hacked. then cycle again. but if its by accident or you receive funds on a random address. it luck!

it its luck if you got fund accidentally, but it will more good if you return the fund to the person who sent you the fund accidentally because he will not be feeling good, and will be in tensing for losing his money.

[Sharma]

Anything you find by chance is not stealing unless you intent to return it to the original owner.In case you find an address that have funds,finding original owner is difficult so you can just abondon it.

[abugseuf]

if you know about the owner of the address then it can be consider it as stealing, but if you do not know about the owner of the address from where you get fund the it may not be consider as stealing.

[Universat]

No matter what scenario you spin, they're not your coins, so yes, it's theft.

if you got it accidentally then it is not stealing, stealing is some thing when you take something intentionally without getting permission from the owner of that thing, therefore to me we cannot consider it stealing if you found something accidentally,  but still it is your responsibility to return it to its owner.

[YTBitcoin]

I think it is not good morally to get someone else bitcoin address as in that there will be someone else bitcoins, and the other point is that that person will also have control on that address so he will also be able to get your coins.

[Gahs]

How about this for scenario, technically there are no coins.
The only thing that exists is the private key which proves right to control.

So... did someone steal your coins, or stole your right to control?

Ans: Both.

The thief stole both your coins and your right to control. Even though you might not be able prove this in court, nemesis has a way of catching up with the culprit.

[Bitware]

No matter what scenario you spin, they're not your coins, so yes, it's theft.

if you got it accidentally then it is not stealing, stealing is some thing when you take something intentionally without getting permission from the owner of that thing, therefore to me we cannot consider it stealing if you found something accidentally,  but still it is your responsibility to return it to its owner.

If you found a private key "by accident", you would still need to access the network to "get the funds", which equates to "take something intentionally," therefore it's a crime.

It's functionally no different than finding someones' credit or debit card on the ground with a sticker on it showing their PIN number.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

[PsursV]

No matter what scenario you spin, they're not your coins, so yes, it's theft.

but you take intentionally from some one then ok it is theft but if you have got the amount accidentally then it is not stealing or theft, but still it is your responsibility to return the amount to the person who accidentally sent it to you.

[Xester]

On your stated cases, case a without a doubt is illegal and can be considered as stealing.  Since you exert more effort to find a bitxoin address with funds in it.  But the good thing is maybe you will not be punished.  The bad side is since you done that it is possible that everyones bitcoin addesses can be steal and were not safe.  Taken from you that you just make efforts in doing so.  In case b, it is just pure luck to have already bitcoins on that newly generated address.

[groll]

Your case A is obviously stealing because of your evil intention.   You do everything just to gain something even if you know that it is from the other person.  You exerted effort just to have bitcoins that is not yours.  In case B it is just pure luck.  You have not done anything wrong as it is already in that bitcoin wallet.  But would that happen?  I mean having already a fund with the wallet address that is newly generated?