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July 25, 2016, 12:59:58 AM
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Hello Guys ^^,

i am new in BTC Mining world, i've really some important questions by them i will decide what will i do next Cheesy

Now my Budget is about 3000-4000$

- what type of miners do u recommend for me!
- why exactly ?
- is the Mining process is really profitable !
- are the miners need any other equipments to work !
- what the best space for holding them !
- My electricity price is " 0.1$ for each kilowatt "
- any other advises for a Beginner like me  ? Cheesy
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July 25, 2016, 08:59:24 AM
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Buy everything you can get hands on!!! You'll be millionaires in less than a month,even if you pay 25 cents per kwh  Cool







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If your electricity is really 0.01 for each kwh, I would probably buy some mining gear.
Buy a couple Antminer S9 or see if you can get a bunch of used S7 from some forum members.
(I believe even the S7 are still profitable if you pay 0.05 or lower)

Confirm your electricity costs don't increase as you use more energy.
For example, where I live, you get a lower rate at first, then when you go above a certain limit, the cost increases.

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July 25, 2016, 04:30:12 PM
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- My electricity price is " 0.1$ for each kilowatt "

That is bit higher price for longterm profitable mining. But with Antminer S9 you should be profitable maybe up to end of this year (based on the future difficulty which noone can predict perfectly half year in advance). Then you need to resell the S9 because you wont be profitable forewer with such high electricity price.

I would not recommending it to you though as it is very risky because your looking for small profit only if all goes well (difficulty go up slowly, resell price of S9 still good after many months) and some loss if things go bad, especially resell price of S9 going too low.

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July 25, 2016, 07:08:13 PM
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A sure way to make profit with your electricity tariff is to mine a good altcoin and then sell it for bitcoins when you see the btc price is down a bit.
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July 27, 2016, 04:05:25 AM
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- My electricity price is " 0.1$ for each kilowatt "

That is bit higher price for longterm profitable mining. But with Antminer S9 you should be profitable maybe up to end of this year (based on the future difficulty which noone can predict perfectly half year in advance). Then you need to resell the S9 because you wont be profitable forewer with such high electricity price.

I would not recommending it to you though as it is very risky because your looking for small profit only if all goes well (difficulty go up slowly, resell price of S9 still good after many months) and some loss if things go bad, especially resell price of S9 going too low.

He could mine with a S9 for a while and hope to sell it eventually and ROI that way.  But it is in no way a sure bet.   I would check electricity though and make sure that all taxes and fee's are included in that.   As if you get any higher I would advise finding a good hosting center vs actually mining at your location.

Also keep in mind it is the summer month's in many locations, so add in cooling cost's in there.   What type of location are you at as summer is very hard in certain area's.   Also I'm assuming no vat/import?   Check that as-well as it can kill ROI.
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July 27, 2016, 08:49:21 PM
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- My electricity price is " 0.1$ for each kilowatt "

That is bit higher price for longterm profitable mining. But with Antminer S9 you should be profitable maybe up to end of this year (based on the future difficulty which noone can predict perfectly half year in advance). Then you need to resell the S9 because you wont be profitable forewer with such high electricity price.

I would not recommending it to you though as it is very risky because your looking for small profit only if all goes well (difficulty go up slowly, resell price of S9 still good after many months) and some loss if things go bad, especially resell price of S9 going too low.

He could mine with a S9 for a while and hope to sell it eventually and ROI that way.  But it is in no way a sure bet.   I would check electricity though and make sure that all taxes and fee's are included in that.   As if you get any higher I would advise finding a good hosting center vs actually mining at your location.

Also keep in mind it is the summer month's in many locations, so add in cooling cost's in there.   What type of location are you at as summer is very hard in certain area's.   Also I'm assuming no vat/import?   Check that as-well as it can kill ROI.

I do not have the knowledge about mining but I think your starting capital was good. Enough to build at least 5 miner I think (that was approximation) and maybe the only thing you should put into is the right altcoin or bitcoin to mine and a good plan to make your project successful.
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- My electricity price is " 0.1$ for each kilowatt "

That is bit higher price for longterm profitable mining. But with Antminer S9 you should be profitable maybe up to end of this year (based on the future difficulty which noone can predict perfectly half year in advance). Then you need to resell the S9 because you wont be profitable forewer with such high electricity price.

I would not recommending it to you though as it is very risky because your looking for small profit only if all goes well (difficulty go up slowly, resell price of S9 still good after many months) and some loss if things go bad, especially resell price of S9 going too low.

He could mine with a S9 for a while and hope to sell it eventually and ROI that way.  But it is in no way a sure bet.   I would check electricity though and make sure that all taxes and fee's are included in that.   As if you get any higher I would advise finding a good hosting center vs actually mining at your location.

Also keep in mind it is the summer month's in many locations, so add in cooling cost's in there.   What type of location are you at as summer is very hard in certain area's.   Also I'm assuming no vat/import?   Check that as-well as it can kill ROI.

I do not have the knowledge about mining but I think your starting capital was good. Enough to build at least 5 miner I think (that was approximation) and maybe the only thing you should put into is the right altcoin or bitcoin to mine and a good plan to make your project successful.

Right now it's between S9 batches.  But you will not get 5 miner S9 setup for 3-4K, just pretty off on that calculation.    You need to add up S9's themself, PSU's, PDU, Wiring (depends), Cooling, etc.   Just is going to be far different then your suggesting on amount of miner's.

Also the "right altcoin" is really hard as not much is worth mining.  Ether is pretty much what most mine on altcoin's, just makes sense when comparing altcoin mining ROI.  But this is all completely different gear then BTC mining.  If we are focusing on BTC mining as it sounds I bolded what I think OP should look into and check before spending any money.
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July 28, 2016, 02:59:38 PM
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Hello Guys ^^,

i am new in BTC Mining world, i've really some important questions by them i will decide what will i do next Cheesy

Now my Budget is about 3000-4000$

- what type of miners do u recommend for me!
- why exactly ?
- is the Mining process is really profitable !
- are the miners need any other equipments to work !
- what the best space for holding them !
- My electricity price is " 0.1$ for each kilowatt "
- any other advises for a Beginner like me  ? Cheesy
You have a pretty good sized budget, I too recommend S9s. However, you probably won't get very much at all with electricity costs that high. S9s are currently the most efficient miners out there as of now, but they're pretty hard to come by these days as Bitmain has sold out all the current batches.

Most people have very cheap electricity (under .05$/kWh), so there's lots of competition. Besides AC, there's really nothing else you need for mining. The best spaces to hold miners are in basements and areas that generally stay cool.

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July 28, 2016, 03:12:04 PM
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Oh its ten cents a kilowatt hour. I misread that as one cent for some reason.
Yeah with prices this high I don't think mining is profitable. You need to be at six cents or below from everything I've read to be very profitable.
(Even with the new generations of miners like the S9)

If you really believe in Bitcoin, spend a couple thousand dollars and put a couple coins in cold storage.
Take another couple hundred dollars and try to do some trading.
I would say that is your best bet to make a profit.

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July 28, 2016, 05:25:44 PM
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Hello Guys ^^,

i am new in BTC Mining world, i've really some important questions by them i will decide what will i do next Cheesy

Now my Budget is about 3000-4000$

- what type of miners do u recommend for me!
- why exactly ?
- is the Mining process is really profitable !
- are the miners need any other equipments to work !
- what the best space for holding them !
- My electricity price is " 0.1$ for each kilowatt "
- any other advises for a Beginner like me  ? Cheesy
You have a pretty good sized budget, I too recommend S9s. However, you probably won't get very much at all with electricity costs that high. S9s are currently the most efficient miners out there as of now, but they're pretty hard to come by these days as Bitmain has sold out all the current batches.

Most people have very cheap electricity (under .05$/kWh), so there's lots of competition. Besides AC, there's really nothing else you need for mining. The best spaces to hold miners are in basements and areas that generally stay cool.

They're top of the line for a while, since technological limits are causing slow downs in ASIC progress, but 0.1$/kWh is pretty bad for mining, OP would do better hosting in any number of trusted data centers.

Personally i'd probably make a contract with Allinvain if i absolutely wanted to go to ASIC way.


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July 28, 2016, 06:32:50 PM
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Hello Guys ^^,

i am new in BTC Mining world, i've really some important questions by them i will decide what will i do next Cheesy

Now my Budget is about 3000-4000$

- what type of miners do u recommend for me!
- why exactly ?
- is the Mining process is really profitable !
- are the miners need any other equipments to work !
- what the best space for holding them !
- My electricity price is " 0.1$ for each kilowatt "
- any other advises for a Beginner like me  ? Cheesy
At .10 kwh your only feasible choice is an antminer s9 by bitmain. You can calculate your earnings from coinwarz or other mining calculator. At the current difficulty your profit will be $175-$190 per s9, per month without a network difficulty increase. At that rate it will take you more than 1 year to make back your initial investment. And this doesn't include the cost for cooling - depending on where in the world you live ( I am assuming USA since you used $ in your post).
The network difficulty is almost always rising (it adjusts every 2016 blocks, so that blocks are not found too quickly and tries to keep that rate 1 block solved every 10 minutes), so that will eat into your profits a little each month.
Unless the price of BTC rises drastically the days of getting rich from mining are over. If you want to gamble on it going up, then give mining a try. You probably won't lose money, and you'll learn a lot. If your goal is purely to make money, then you are better off buying/trading the commodity of your choice.
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Try to fimd mining site with mining proofs.Like example mining field wherr you can see company logo with same name like in internet.
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Don't listen to the naysayers, go right ahead and mine. Better yet, sell your house and use the proceeds to buy more miners, they are money printing machines, soon you will buy a castle like I done. If you have daughters, sell them to rich Arabs, use the proceeds to buy more miners, you will get to your castle faster.

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The s9 really is the most power efficient hardware you can get your hands on right now. Like any investment I'd urge you to weigh the pros vs the potential risks of course, but bitcoin's future does look to be a bright one.

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my suggestion is don't buy antminer s9 because the price is so high, better you buy at least 5-10 vga card to mining ethereum. its a good choice for you if you have that budget

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August 11, 2016, 07:18:13 AM
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my suggestion is don't buy antminer s9 because the price is so high, better you buy at least 5-10 vga card to mining ethereum. its a good choice for you if you have that budget
yes, i agree, for know to bitcoin mining is not profitable, the price must minimal $ 1000 will be profitable. i suggest to alt mining,
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my suggestion is don't buy antminer s9 because the price is so high, better you buy at least 5-10 vga card to mining ethereum. its a good choice for you if you have that budget
yes, i agree, for know to bitcoin mining is not profitable, the price must minimal $ 1000 will be profitable. i suggest to alt mining,

You cannot make blanket statements like this.   Keep in mind so many variables it varies greatly on who can do it profitably.  And the biggest factor in most cases is electricity.  But it is not a 90 day ROI like it once was, it is much longer.  But some still do it (including me).

So you can do it your post is really wrong, almost seeming like post was just for sig with size and info in it.  And alt mining really focuses on ETH and ETC let's be honest they are what is keeping it profitable.  So alt coin mining is really a pretty small of group of coins that are worth mining.
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August 18, 2016, 03:18:52 PM
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Oh its ten cents a kilowatt hour. I misread that as one cent for some reason.
Yeah with prices this high I don't think mining is profitable. You need to be at six cents or below from everything I've read to be very profitable.
(Even with the new generations of miners like the S9)

If you really believe in Bitcoin, spend a couple thousand dollars and put a couple coins in cold storage.
Take another couple hundred dollars and try to do some trading.
I would say that is your best bet to make a profit.



Trading requires caution. You need to study the coins on coinmarketcap.com to decide when to buy and when to sell. Start small, don't invest thousands of dollars at first, better start with $50 till you get the hang of it.
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September 03, 2016, 04:45:46 PM
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In my opinion, Bitmain is the one of the leading companies providing the mining equipments, I'm not sure if it's worth on these days though.
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