Only ETC is the real Ethereum

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I don't belive that hacker will dump all ETC just becouse he is courious where it will go.
For ETC this is just onother whale with big chunk of coin that supress ETC price. But porobably over time he will sell off his shares.
If he dump you will see ETC for 0,01$ ... capitalization is not real value.
We will see where all will go. If i would invest in ETC ar ETH i should go with that one have or will have more projects onboard hisstory doeasn't matter.

Me too. Usually, the coin with the most projects will be the one that will be the most supported over the long term. ETC only has a minority of users into it, while ETH has the biggest investors and development team. I'm pretty sure that once Casper PoS hits out for ETH, things will be a lot better than what they are right now. Just my opinion. 

If ETH goes from POW to Casper POS then the miners will all transfer to ETC. The supporters of the forked chain must be very careful before getting excited about the switch to Casper. There are arguments that it is not a feasible way to reach consensus and that the system can be cheated by a majority. If they really want to make that switch soon then good for ETC. Miners are welcome there.

[Abiky]

If ETH goes from POW to Casper POS then the miners will all transfer to ETC. The supporters of the forked chain must be very careful before getting excited about the switch to Casper. There are arguments that it is not a feasible way to reach consensus and that the system can be cheated by a majority. If they really want to make that switch soon then good for ETC. Miners are welcome there.

And that is if ETC decides to stay as a PoW crypto while ETH goes full PoS. It would ideal for ETC to stay as a PoW crypto since it will attract miners into it (not to mention that true consensus would be achieved with this) The only good thing about PoS in my opinion is that it is an energy efficient way to mine (or should I say stake) some coins. Some people cannot afford to buy expensive mining hardware (like GPUs) and maintain them, thus it will be easier for them to buy coins instead and stake them. Still, I think that PoW is better due to the fact that true consensus would be achieved and it would make the coin's network stronger. 

[bbc.reporter]

If ETH goes from POW to Casper POS then the miners will all transfer to ETC. The supporters of the forked chain must be very careful before getting excited about the switch to Casper. There are arguments that it is not a feasible way to reach consensus and that the system can be cheated by a majority. If they really want to make that switch soon then good for ETC. Miners are welcome there.

And that is if ETC decides to stay as a PoW crypto while ETH goes full PoS. It would ideal for ETC to stay as a PoW crypto since it will attract miners into it (not to mention that true consensus would be achieved with this) The only good thing about PoS in my opinion is that it is an energy efficient way to mine (or should I say stake) some coins. Some people cannot afford to buy expensive mining hardware (like GPUs) and maintain them, thus it will be easier for them to buy coins instead and stake them. Still, I think that PoW is better due to the fact that true consensus would be achieved and it would make the coin's network stronger. 

Yes. The supporters and backers of ETC should not follow the switch to Casper right away. This will set new problems with the forked chain and Vitalik's strategy. He really now has created a lot of problems for himself. The original Ethereum classic is more relaxed and have the freedom to choose which direction it will take.

[dumana]

If ETH goes from POW to Casper POS then the miners will all transfer to ETC. The supporters of the forked chain must be very careful before getting excited about the switch to Casper. There are arguments that it is not a feasible way to reach consensus and that the system can be cheated by a majority. If they really want to make that switch soon then good for ETC. Miners are welcome there.

And that is if ETC decides to stay as a PoW crypto while ETH goes full PoS. It would ideal for ETC to stay as a PoW crypto since it will attract miners into it (not to mention that true consensus would be achieved with this) The only good thing about PoS in my opinion is that it is an energy efficient way to mine (or should I say stake) some coins. Some people cannot afford to buy expensive mining hardware (like GPUs) and maintain them, thus it will be easier for them to buy coins instead and stake them. Still, I think that PoW is better due to the fact that true consensus would be achieved and it would make the coin's network stronger. 

Yes. The supporters and backers of ETC should not follow the switch to Casper right away. This will set new problems with the forked chain and Vitalik's strategy. He really now has created a lot of problems for himself. The original Ethereum classic is more relaxed and have the freedom to choose which direction it will take.

If the ETC does not follow the switch to Casper right away, it will be a dead coin as nobody will provide service based on it.

[Abiky]

Yes. The supporters and backers of ETC should not follow the switch to Casper right away. This will set new problems with the forked chain and Vitalik's strategy. He really now has created a lot of problems for himself. The original Ethereum classic is more relaxed and have the freedom to choose which direction it will take.

Yeah. I wonder how successful ETH would be once it hits PoS stage. Also, things would improve onto ETH (and probably ETC as well) once its version of BTC's Lightning Network (in this case, Raiden Network) becomes a reality. It will make Ethereum much faster and perhaps it may even rival VISA or Mastercard with its TPS. Anyways, I am hoping for ETC to head towards innovation making itself different than ETH by having its own DAO (a better and secure version than ETH's The DAO), or maybe even make new kinds of dapps. Just my opinion. 

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I don't get why ETH is doing so well.  I only watch altcoins on yobit and I don't think ETC is listed there.  This whole thing is one unholy christing shitfuck, and you'd have to be insane  to buy either of these.  No offense,  OP.

[Minecache]

I don't get why ETH is doing so well.  I only watch altcoins on yobit and I don't think ETC is listed there.  This whole thing is one unholy christing shitfuck, and you'd have to be insane  to buy either of these.  No offense,  OP.

Maybe because you don't understand the great tech that it is nor appreciate just how many massive financial backers and developers it has? Stick to your disgusting ETC criminal coin all you want but I have two full Ethereum bags.

[buyinbtc]

I don't get why ETH is doing so well.  I only watch altcoins on yobit and I don't think ETC is listed there.  This whole thing is one unholy christing shitfuck, and you'd have to be insane  to buy either of these.  No offense,  OP.

im also puzzled about it though i think that eth will exist not for a really long time, in my opinion the price of it is going to be dumped really soon

[bbc.reporter]

Yes. The supporters and backers of ETC should not follow the switch to Casper right away. This will set new problems with the forked chain and Vitalik's strategy. He really now has created a lot of problems for himself. The original Ethereum classic is more relaxed and have the freedom to choose which direction it will take.

Yeah. I wonder how successful ETH would be once it hits PoS stage. Also, things would improve onto ETH (and probably ETC as well) once its version of BTC's Lightning Network (in this case, Raiden Network) becomes a reality. It will make Ethereum much faster and perhaps it may even rival VISA or Mastercard with its TPS. Anyways, I am hoping for ETC to head towards innovation making itself different than ETH by having its own DAO (a better and secure version than ETH's The DAO), or maybe even make new kinds of dapps. Just my opinion. 

That is all only in theory. In practice what will happen is the miners will switch to ETC. Vitalik would be crazy to announce any definite dates for Casper's release now. That will make the ETC chain stronger because miners want long term security to operate. Casper is a threat to them.

[varusisog]

Yes. The supporters and backers of ETC should not follow the switch to Casper right away. This will set new problems with the forked chain and Vitalik's strategy. He really now has created a lot of problems for himself. The original Ethereum classic is more relaxed and have the freedom to choose which direction it will take.

Yeah. I wonder how successful ETH would be once it hits PoS stage. Also, things would improve onto ETH (and probably ETC as well) once its version of BTC's Lightning Network (in this case, Raiden Network) becomes a reality. It will make Ethereum much faster and perhaps it may even rival VISA or Mastercard with its TPS. Anyways, I am hoping for ETC to head towards innovation making itself different than ETH by having its own DAO (a better and secure version than ETH's The DAO), or maybe even make new kinds of dapps. Just my opinion. 

That is all only in theory. In practice what will happen is the miners will switch to ETC. Vitalik would be crazy to announce any definite dates for Casper's release now. That will make the ETC chain stronger because miners want long term security to operate. Casper is a threat to them.

I think the same. The miners have helped the Ethereum Foundation and the members to secure their DAO coins. So the switch will be delayed by some time.

[oblivi]

The biggest problem with ETH is that now once the precedent of a bailout hard fork is set is very, very hard to trust this project.
What will happen once another smart contract disaster happens again? Cmon!

[Abiky]

That is all only in theory. In practice what will happen is the miners will switch to ETC. Vitalik would be crazy to announce any definite dates for Casper's release now. That will make the ETC chain stronger because miners want long term security to operate. Casper is a threat to them.

Yeah. That is why ETC will have a strong advantage over this in the future as miners will keep the network secure, while ETH switches to PoS and would be left behind. Then, after ETH is forgotten the original chain (ETC) would prevail and there will only be a single Ethereum. I'd bet that they're planning a The DAO 2.0 real soon. Let's see how this would turn out in the long run. Just my opinion. 

[Minecache]

The biggest problem with ETH is that now once the precedent of a bailout hard fork is set is very, very hard to trust this project.
What will happen once another smart contract disaster happens again? Cmon!

Yes it's very hard to trust a project and community that seeks to do the morally correct thing. Better to put all your blind faith in 1 anonymous criminal who only has nefarious thoughts and actions at heart.

[bbc.reporter]

That is all only in theory. In practice what will happen is the miners will switch to ETC. Vitalik would be crazy to announce any definite dates for Casper's release now. That will make the ETC chain stronger because miners want long term security to operate. Casper is a threat to them.

Yeah. That is why ETC will have a strong advantage over this in the future as miners will keep the network secure, while ETH switches to PoS and would be left behind. Then, after ETH is forgotten the original chain (ETC) would prevail and there will only be a single Ethereum. I'd bet that they're planning a The DAO 2.0 real soon. Let's see how this would turn out in the long run. Just my opinion. 

Are you typing without thinking? ETH will not go away even if it switches to Casper. Not all of the miners will mine ETC some will find a different altcoin depending on the price of ETC if it is profitable. I said this in another thread, what I foresee happening is that ETC will become a "community chain" with community projects like in NXT and ETH will become a "corporate chain" with venture capitalist backed projects. This will be good because each of them will have their own niche market.

[greenuser]

That is all only in theory. In practice what will happen is the miners will switch to ETC. Vitalik would be crazy to announce any definite dates for Casper's release now. That will make the ETC chain stronger because miners want long term security to operate. Casper is a threat to them.

Yeah. That is why ETC will have a strong advantage over this in the future as miners will keep the network secure, while ETH switches to PoS and would be left behind. Then, after ETH is forgotten the original chain (ETC) would prevail and there will only be a single Ethereum. I'd bet that they're planning a The DAO 2.0 real soon. Let's see how this would turn out in the long run. Just my opinion.  

Are you typing without thinking? ETH will not go away even if it switches to Casper. Not all of the miners will mine ETC some will find a different altcoin depending on the price of ETC if it is profitable. I said this in another thread, what I foresee happening is that ETC will become a "community chain" with community projects like in NXT and ETH will become a "corporate chain" with venture capitalist backed projects. This will be good because each of them will have their own niche market.

The man from the beebs got it right bros & sisters

We have an active 12 person dev team  https://trello.com/etcdev/members

We have 100+ volunteers  https://github.com/ethereumproject/volunteer/tree/master/Keys

Over 500 on slack  https://ethereumclassic.slack.com/messages/development/

And Charles Hoskinson at the helm

Support fom miners like Chandler Guo and many more.

This is the peoples coin not a foundation

All this in a little more than a week?  And now the dao etc is back in safe hands
https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4wyk47/re_the_etc_salvaged_from_attackdaos/

So much still to do.  Keep an eye on the announcements section.  

[bbc.reporter]

Yes. I just watched Charles Hoskinson's interview. Very good news coming from him. I mentioned this in the another thread. Please check out Nick Szabo's retweet that has a like to an ETC wallet generator in it. What do you think? Is he supporting ETC?

[1ofthemany]

Yes. I just watched Charles Hoskinson's interview. Very good news coming from him. I mentioned this in the another thread. Please check out Nick Szabo's retweet that has a like to an ETC wallet generator in it. What do you think? Is he supporting ETC?

Nick Szabo is a self-described libertarian. To me the answer is clear.

[Amph]

The biggest problem with ETH is that now once the precedent of a bailout hard fork is set is very, very hard to trust this project.
What will happen once another smart contract disaster happens again? Cmon!

would be curious to know who was behind the coding of the smart contract project, they should integrate it as a part of the fork itself, not a separate project

[bbc.reporter]

Yes. I just watched Charles Hoskinson's interview. Very good news coming from him. I mentioned this in the another thread. Please check out Nick Szabo's retweet that has a like to an ETC wallet generator in it. What do you think? Is he supporting ETC?

Nick Szabo is a self-described libertarian. To me the answer is clear.

That is a good point. To me it will still be good to hear from him and know what his opinion is and what he thinks of the ETC versus ETH battle that is going on now. A lot of people in the community will find it valuable I'm sure.

[dumana]

That is all only in theory. In practice what will happen is the miners will switch to ETC. Vitalik would be crazy to announce any definite dates for Casper's release now. That will make the ETC chain stronger because miners want long term security to operate. Casper is a threat to them.

Yeah. That is why ETC will have a strong advantage over this in the future as miners will keep the network secure, while ETH switches to PoS and would be left behind. Then, after ETH is forgotten the original chain (ETC) would prevail and there will only be a single Ethereum. I'd bet that they're planning a The DAO 2.0 real soon. Let's see how this would turn out in the long run. Just my opinion. 

Are you typing without thinking? ETH will not go away even if it switches to Casper. Not all of the miners will mine ETC some will find a different altcoin depending on the price of ETC if it is profitable. I said this in another thread, what I foresee happening is that ETC will become a "community chain" with community projects like in NXT and ETH will become a "corporate chain" with venture capitalist backed projects. This will be good because each of them will have their own niche market.

I think the ETH PoS will be delayed for quite long time. The development of the Casper is not fast enough.