Sold all my eth for etc

[vincentvincent]

I totally lost confidence in ETH since it cannot be longer called a blockchain after the HardFork.

Undoing history cannot be without consequences. I have thougth about it a couple of days and today I decide to sell all my eth for etc!

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[Xesystme]

I hope in two months time, you will not regret your action today. The ETC might not survive the DAO hacker's dump.

[thejaytiesto]

Good move, if I had ETH that's what I would do. I also can't trust ETH anymore, they pussied out and did a bailout. This should have 0 respect in the crypto community. We are here to stop acting like banks not to emulate them. I don't care about the "voting" part, that was bullshit. Bailouts in crypto = a total disaster. ETC must win. I may buy some too, even too I value my BTC too much, I think ETC is very undervalued and can only go up.

[Denker]

I hope in two months time, you will not regret your action today. The ETC might not survive the DAO hacker's dump.

Funny that you believe to know what the DAO profiteer is going to do.
If you're smart you keep your mouth shut as this the whole thing might take a pretty unexpected and surprising turn which will make you look dumb.

[thejaytiesto]

I hope in two months time, you will not regret your action today. The ETC might not survive the DAO hacker's dump.

Funny that you believe to know what the DAO profiteer is going to do.
If you're smart you keep your mouth shut as this the whole thing might take a pretty unexpected and surprising turn which will make you look dumb.

Obviously nobody knows what will happen, but for the DAO profiteer, what he is holding is probably not that much. Im sure a guy that smart is already rich, and a couple million is not enough for him. This means that if he wants more, he will support BTC and become really, really rich as his tokens potentially go 10 times higher. Imagine how much money he can make if he supports ETC price to go up.

[European Central Bank]

didn't you already get a pile of etc for free? nothing stopping you buying more of course.

I love this dao boogeyman speculation. he got where he is by having intimate knowledge of crypto and being smart. i'll guess that also extends to knowing that if you dump every single coin all at once you might not get the price you wanted.

[maydna]

i am not selling my eth, i am lending my eth to get more profit  while waiting good news from the dev and waiting what eth will be in the future. for etc, i am ready to join with and if its can give me profit, then i will trade it but if its the time to stop or gets to ended, i will be stop trade etc. nothing to worried 

[Xesystme]

i am not selling my eth, i am lending my eth to get more profit  while waiting good news from the dev and waiting what eth will be in the future. for etc, i am ready to join with and if its can give me profit, then i will trade it but if its the time to stop or gets to ended, i will be stop trade etc. nothing to worried 

That is good plan. From end of July to now, the price of ETH has risen a few percentage point, although not large, but still some increase.

[Efemen]

i am not selling my eth, i am lending my eth to get more profit  while waiting good news from the dev and waiting what eth will be in the future. for etc, i am ready to join with and if its can give me profit, then i will trade it but if its the time to stop or gets to ended, i will be stop trade etc. nothing to worried 

That is good plan. From end of July to now, the price of ETH has risen a few percentage point, although not large, but still some increase.

It is beyond some people's belief that the ETH survived the DAO hack and hard fork, and the ETH has risen so far.

[amacar2]

i am not selling my eth, i am lending my eth to get more profit  while waiting good news from the dev and waiting what eth will be in the future. for etc, i am ready to join with and if its can give me profit, then i will trade it but if its the time to stop or gets to ended, i will be stop trade etc. nothing to worried 

That is good plan. From end of July to now, the price of ETH has risen a few percentage point, although not large, but still some increase.

It is beyond some people's belief that the ETH survived the DAO hack and hard fork, and the ETH has risen so far.

How ETH foundation try to sell off all ETC they have to make ETH survive shows how ETH is centralized coin while as ETC is now being decentralized and no any foundation or any bullshit that will sell some of their % to make world tour.

[c789]

Smart move. Why anyone sticks with an org that breaks contracts -- for whatever reason -- is beyond me.

[dwgscale11]

I am also shocked to see ETH still alive.. Only a matter of time now though

[GreenBits]

I am also shocked to see ETH still alive.. Only a matter of time now though

The Ethereum Foundations' very existence depends on this coin staying well capitalized, and in a decent price range. There is a reason why the price on this one keeps popping up like a zombie. ETH attracted some real VC, and it shows; they aren't going down without a fight.

[jmpFCE2]

`who cares , rest easy amateur

[mining1]

Can you show us any proof you actually had any ETH ? Because i don't believe you did. You probably understand why i don't believe you, like 99% of ETC supporters never had any ETH.

[marty123]

If you support Bitcoins, you will support ETC, both have same values, ETH chargedback the blockchain and is trying to be above blockchain, nothing is above blockchain and ETC is proving that by slowly killing ETH with everyone support :-)

[purebitco]

I hope in two months time, you will not regret your action today. The ETC might not survive the DAO hacker's dump.

or we might not even feel it and the etc pump is going to be huge, in my opinion it is better to pump etc fast right now in order to make some profirt

[oblivi]

I would have sold all of my ETH for ETC the same moment Vitalik panicked and told exchanges to stop all trades. From that moment Ethereum and their foundation died.

[Minecache]

I would have sold all of my ETH for ETC the same moment Vitalik panicked and told exchanges to stop all trades. From that moment Ethereum and their foundation died.

too many large financial organisations and a load of mega big bucks are invested in ETH development for it to fail now. ETC criminal coin was created by criminals for criminals and will see little development.

[dinofelis]

I would have sold all of my ETH for ETC the same moment Vitalik panicked and told exchanges to stop all trades. From that moment Ethereum and their foundation died.

too many large financial organisations and a load of mega big bucks are invested in ETH development for it to fail now. ETC criminal coin was created by criminals for criminals and will see little development.

Next time there's a contract on ETH not working as intended, is ETH going to fork again, or is it going to become a criminal coin too ?

[Rutdam]

I would have sold all of my ETH for ETC the same moment Vitalik panicked and told exchanges to stop all trades. From that moment Ethereum and their foundation died.

too many large financial organisations and a load of mega big bucks are invested in ETH development for it to fail now. ETC criminal coin was created by criminals for criminals and will see little development.

Next time there's a contract on ETH not working as intended, is ETH going to fork again, or is it going to become a criminal coin too ?

When the ETH becomes pure PoS, it is more difficult to fork. That is according to the comments by the Vitalik himself.

[Rastanan]

I would have sold all of my ETH for ETC the same moment Vitalik panicked and told exchanges to stop all trades. From that moment Ethereum and their foundation died.

too many large financial organisations and a load of mega big bucks are invested in ETH development for it to fail now. ETC criminal coin was created by criminals for criminals and will see little development.

Next time there's a contract on ETH not working as intended, is ETH going to fork again, or is it going to become a criminal coin too ?

When the ETH becomes pure PoS, it is more difficult to fork. That is according to the comments by the Vitalik himself.

I am a miner. I think the PoW of the ETH should last longer so that the proportion of the premined coins will become lower.

[dinofelis]

I would have sold all of my ETH for ETC the same moment Vitalik panicked and told exchanges to stop all trades. From that moment Ethereum and their foundation died.

too many large financial organisations and a load of mega big bucks are invested in ETH development for it to fail now. ETC criminal coin was created by criminals for criminals and will see little development.

Next time there's a contract on ETH not working as intended, is ETH going to fork again, or is it going to become a criminal coin too ?

When the ETH becomes pure PoS, it is more difficult to fork. That is according to the comments by the Vitalik himself.

That is a ridiculous argument, because a fork can do of course anything, including altering the PoS and even the whole PoW history.

[machinek20]

I think its a good move, since the hardfork news eth has taken a beat, and the trust level is decreasing, so changing side to etc i think is a good idea, but i still hope eth can survive because i still has a high hope for eth

[raphma]

Can you show us any proof you actually had any ETH ? Because i don't believe you did. You probably understand why i don't believe you, like 99% of ETC supporters never had any ETH.

and that is a "must"? you can only buy ETC if you had ETH?
oh mETH heads.... always the same sh*t arguments...

[Omegasun]

Can you show us any proof you actually had any ETH ? Because i don't believe you did. You probably understand why i don't believe you, like 99% of ETC supporters never had any ETH.

and that is a "must"? you can only buy ETC if you had ETH?
oh mETH heads.... always the same sh*t arguments...

Hahahah. Very funny conversation about eth and etc i have both of them because they are good coin in trading. There's no law regarding ETC and ETH buying connection. And i think i belong on the 1% he stated.

[mining1]

You guys see these people with betcoin.ag as icon ? Pay them a visit in 6 months and laugh at them. They are all heavily invested in ETC, they never owned any ETH, and they'll die poor. Mark my words.

[jacafbiz]

It is better not put your egg in the same basket when it comes to ETH and ETC. Both could prosper my guess

[Efemen]

It is better not put your egg in the same basket when it comes to ETH and ETC. Both could prosper my guess

I do not think so. Only one of them will survive the long term. The business and companies will only use the strong one.

[KryptoKings]

I personally believe a few things will happen that will go ETC's way

1. Stolen coins will be dumped. This will not kill the coin. May drop in price for a hot min but that's about it.
2. ETH Foundation will be linked to the DAO disaster (as in they are responsible and have most of the funds) causing people to lose confidence in ETH.
3. ETH Foundation will make more stupid moves in the future from over confidence.
4. ETC hash power will catch and pass ETH.
5. ETC will put together an infrastructure of community leaders that will promote confidence.
6. ETH will go to PoS sooner than expected. Major whales will try to keep things going but the miners will move on to ETC or another coin.
7. ETC will gain support from major names in the Bitcoin community causing other to sway away from ETH.

These are just my opinions and I have been wrong before. I personally have gotten away from ETH to ETC.

[raphma]

It is better not put your egg in the same basket when it comes to ETH and ETC. Both could prosper my guess

mETH heads doesnt know that, they are heavily in ETH and they think the other side is heavily in ETC.... there are no other investments for them.

I do not think so. Only one of them will survive the long term. The business and companies will only use the strong one.

and why are you so sure of that?... they could both die.

[Zenixin]

It is better not put your egg in the same basket when it comes to ETH and ETC. Both could prosper my guess

mETH heads doesnt know that, they are heavily in ETH and they think the other side is heavily in ETC.... there are no other investments for them.

I have some Ethereum in my wallet. I have sold all my ETC. That is because somebody owns 3.6 million ETC and could crash the price.

[mining1]

Lol, delusionalism at it's finest. First, ethereum is not something 100% perfect, trial and error, some dapps will fail, some won't. And if somehow some disaster happens, idc, eth team dies struck by lightning, that doesnt mean ETC will take it's place. It has no chance at all.  I mean, why would take ETC the place and not expanse or other 10+ clones ? Don't believe what barry silbert says, he's a pump&dumper, already dumped his coins.

[shyliar]

Lol, delusionalism at it's finest. First, ethereum is not something 100% perfect, trial and error, some dapps will fail, some won't. And if somehow some disaster happens, idc, eth team dies struck by lightning, that doesnt mean ETC will take it's place. It has no chance at all.  I mean, why would take ETC the place and not expanse or other 10+ clones ? Don't believe what barry silbert says, he's a pump&dumper, already dumped his coins.

Now that's something smart investors want to purchase......something that works by trial and error. 

[mining1]

That's how it works when you do something that hasn't been done before, you learn from your mystakes. Only stupid people expected a 100% finished and bug free project, that only works if you do something that's simple and been done before, like a btc clone.

[Efemen]

It is better not put your egg in the same basket when it comes to ETH and ETC. Both could prosper my guess

mETH heads doesnt know that, they are heavily in ETH and they think the other side is heavily in ETC.... there are no other investments for them.

I have some Ethereum in my wallet. I have sold all my ETC. That is because somebody owns 3.6 million ETC and could crash the price.

I heard the ETC supporters will have a meeting in London in September this year. So I shall wait until then before buying any ETC now.

[adhitthana]

I hope in two months time, you will not regret your action today. The ETC might not survive the DAO hacker's dump.

The DAO hackers dump would be good for ETC. Then the problem of the "stolen funds " is gone forever

[Redrose]

It is better not put your egg in the same basket when it comes to ETH and ETC. Both could prosper my guess

mETH heads doesnt know that, they are heavily in ETH and they think the other side is heavily in ETC.... there are no other investments for them.

I have some Ethereum in my wallet. I have sold all my ETC. That is because somebody owns 3.6 million ETC and could crash the price.

You know that some people owns 3,6 millions ETH too, right ? And that they could dump it the same way, right ? While teh DAO attacker might get its coins frozen, those ones won't have any problem to dump them. Since the Ethereum Foundation (ETH) tried to dump stolen ETC, we know that the DAO attacker will be under the spot.

[marty123]

I am HODL ing all my ETC :-)

[XbladeX]

...
When the ETH becomes pure PoS, it is more difficult to fork. That is according to the comments by the Vitalik himself.

What kind of POS have ETH ?
Probably it will be hard when most coins are on exchanges hahaha... and voting to change protocol will be will of
exchange owners today probably poloniex will be king.
I think that can be ETH issue. Polo was not hacked for long.
POS have problems with that matter people don't realy care about stacking coins for 1$ revenue while it cost 120$ year for power.
And we and in world where a bigger stacker will be exchanges - always online and big chunk of coins in their hand.

[ethereumhunter]

its like a drama in television. when one coin comes out, its get famous, and second coin which the other varian comes out, its famous too. but after work in a few moment, one of the two coin will be sacrifice to support the other coins. i don't know if there is another varian that will out from ethereum developer. but i think the other dev will make other varian from basic of ethereum and this will make eth and etc go down. but it is just my opinion, no offense.

[Xesystme]

...
When the ETH becomes pure PoS, it is more difficult to fork. That is according to the comments by the Vitalik himself.

What kind of POS have ETH ?
Probably it will be hard when most coins are on exchanges hahaha... and voting to change protocol will be will of
exchange owners today probably poloniex will be king.
I think that can be ETH issue. Polo was not hacked for long.
POS have problems with that matter people don't realy care about stacking coins for 1$ revenue while it cost 120$ year for power.
And we and in world where a bigger stacker will be exchanges - always online and big chunk of coins in their hand.

Maybe when we have the coins on the Poloniex. The staking interest should be paid to us by the Pononiex. Otherwise, it is unfair.

[Rutdam]

...
When the ETH becomes pure PoS, it is more difficult to fork. That is according to the comments by the Vitalik himself.

What kind of POS have ETH ?
Probably it will be hard when most coins are on exchanges hahaha... and voting to change protocol will be will of
exchange owners today probably poloniex will be king.
I think that can be ETH issue. Polo was not hacked for long.
POS have problems with that matter people don't realy care about stacking coins for 1$ revenue while it cost 120$ year for power.
And we and in world where a bigger stacker will be exchanges - always online and big chunk of coins in their hand.

Maybe when we have the coins on the Poloniex. The staking interest should be paid to us by the Pononiex. Otherwise, it is unfair.

I think some exchanges will pay the staking interest to the users. But I am not sure if the Poloniex does the same.

[CryptoBillboard]

I have been away a while and didnt realise ETH had an ugly divorce . Well perhaps its opens up new possibilities.

[Sweetbtc]

...
When the ETH becomes pure PoS, it is more difficult to fork. That is according to the comments by the Vitalik himself.

What kind of POS have ETH ?
Probably it will be hard when most coins are on exchanges hahaha... and voting to change protocol will be will of
exchange owners today probably poloniex will be king.
I think that can be ETH issue. Polo was not hacked for long.
POS have problems with that matter people don't realy care about stacking coins for 1$ revenue while it cost 120$ year for power.
And we and in world where a bigger stacker will be exchanges - always online and big chunk of coins in their hand.

Maybe when we have the coins on the Poloniex. The staking interest should be paid to us by the Pononiex. Otherwise, it is unfair.

Poloniex does not pay staking that I am aware of.  I have had large amounts of staked coins in there for some time and never saw anything.

[noormcs5]

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When the ETH becomes pure PoS, it is more difficult to fork. That is according to the comments by the Vitalik himself.

What kind of POS have ETH ?
Probably it will be hard when most coins are on exchanges hahaha... and voting to change protocol will be will of
exchange owners today probably poloniex will be king.
I think that can be ETH issue. Polo was not hacked for long.
POS have problems with that matter people don't realy care about stacking coins for 1$ revenue while it cost 120$ year for power.
And we and in world where a bigger stacker will be exchanges - always online and big chunk of coins in their hand.

Maybe when we have the coins on the Poloniex. The staking interest should be paid to us by the Pononiex. Otherwise, it is unfair.

I know that I used one particular website for staking and they closed down.  It was a decent site and the way that they closed down actually built a lot of trust, as they worked the site down over months and gave you plenty of time to get your coins out.

[Youresioure]

I can understand your point for now, but I advise you to consider a third possibility too because although there seems to be a race between ETH and ETC between users now, in the future maybe both of them'll fade away in the shadow of a better coin.

[mining1]

This post is too good to be missed so here it is:

You must be either stupid or too invested into failed ETC. There are literally hundreds of projects being build on ethereum, and alot of positive news lately. Go read reddit. Even the giant thomson reuters supports ethereum for a while now.
It's really hard to argue what i just said when giants like apple (asked to remove ETC from jaxx), microsoft, thomson reuters, santander bank as sponsor, openly support ethereum. When thomson reuters put a huge billboard panel on their building you know something is really moving. Some of the shitloads of positive news.
https://twitter.com/CryptoCompare/status/773526471293960192
https://twitter.com/GeorgeAHallam/status/774330620973617154
https://news.bitcoin.com/visa-test-blockchain-payments/
http://themerkle.com/the-pitts-family-circus-is-the-first-ever-film-crowdfunded-with-ethereum/
These are just examples, there are many more. So yeah, keep dreaming.

[d-trix]

...
When the ETH becomes pure PoS, it is more difficult to fork. That is according to the comments by the Vitalik himself.

What kind of POS have ETH ?
Probably it will be hard when most coins are on exchanges hahaha... and voting to change protocol will be will of
exchange owners today probably poloniex will be king.
I think that can be ETH issue. Polo was not hacked for long.
POS have problems with that matter people don't realy care about stacking coins for 1$ revenue while it cost 120$ year for power.
And we and in world where a bigger stacker will be exchanges - always online and big chunk of coins in their hand.

Maybe when we have the coins on the Poloniex. The staking interest should be paid to us by the Pononiex. Otherwise, it is unfair.

Poloniex does not pay staking that I am aware of.  I have had large amounts of staked coins in there for some time and never saw anything.

According to Poloniex they are not staking their users coins but in reality it's exaclty the opposite.

[Sweetbtc]

...
When the ETH becomes pure PoS, it is more difficult to fork. That is according to the comments by the Vitalik himself.

What kind of POS have ETH ?
Probably it will be hard when most coins are on exchanges hahaha... and voting to change protocol will be will of
exchange owners today probably poloniex will be king.
I think that can be ETH issue. Polo was not hacked for long.
POS have problems with that matter people don't realy care about stacking coins for 1$ revenue while it cost 120$ year for power.
And we and in world where a bigger stacker will be exchanges - always online and big chunk of coins in their hand.

Maybe when we have the coins on the Poloniex. The staking interest should be paid to us by the Pononiex. Otherwise, it is unfair.

Poloniex does not pay staking that I am aware of.  I have had large amounts of staked coins in there for some time and never saw anything.

According to Poloniex they are not staking their users coins but in reality it's exaclty the opposite.

There are a few they are dedicated strictly to the staking coins online, but I see no reason to choose them above any other wallet/exchange that pays staking. 

[Xesystme]

...
When the ETH becomes pure PoS, it is more difficult to fork. That is according to the comments by the Vitalik himself.

What kind of POS have ETH ?
Probably it will be hard when most coins are on exchanges hahaha... and voting to change protocol will be will of
exchange owners today probably poloniex will be king.
I think that can be ETH issue. Polo was not hacked for long.
POS have problems with that matter people don't realy care about stacking coins for 1$ revenue while it cost 120$ year for power.
And we and in world where a bigger stacker will be exchanges - always online and big chunk of coins in their hand.

Maybe when we have the coins on the Poloniex. The staking interest should be paid to us by the Pononiex. Otherwise, it is unfair.

Poloniex does not pay staking that I am aware of.  I have had large amounts of staked coins in there for some time and never saw anything.

According to Poloniex they are not staking their users coins but in reality it's exaclty the opposite.

There are a few they are dedicated strictly to the staking coins online, but I see no reason to choose them above any other wallet/exchange that pays staking. 

So if you have the PoS coins, it is better not to trade in the Poloniex. The Poloniex are ripping off its clients.

[Azael]

Ballsy personally I don't hold that much ETC. The developers ETC has attracted need to prove they can deliver.

[disconnectme]

...
When the ETH becomes pure PoS, it is more difficult to fork. That is according to the comments by the Vitalik himself.

What kind of POS have ETH ?
Probably it will be hard when most coins are on exchanges hahaha... and voting to change protocol will be will of
exchange owners today probably poloniex will be king.
I think that can be ETH issue. Polo was not hacked for long.
POS have problems with that matter people don't realy care about stacking coins for 1$ revenue while it cost 120$ year for power.
And we and in world where a bigger stacker will be exchanges - always online and big chunk of coins in their hand.

Maybe when we have the coins on the Poloniex. The staking interest should be paid to us by the Pononiex. Otherwise, it is unfair.

Poloniex does not pay staking that I am aware of.  I have had large amounts of staked coins in there for some time and never saw anything.

According to Poloniex they are not staking their users coins but in reality it's exaclty the opposite.

There are a few they are dedicated strictly to the staking coins online, but I see no reason to choose them above any other wallet/exchange that pays staking. 

So if you have the PoS coins, it is better not to trade in the Poloniex. The Poloniex are ripping off its clients.

The interest gain from staking a coin is not that high and I believe most people will agree with me that Poloniex is one of the best exchange out there if not the best and there is no proof that they are staking customers coins.

[Efemen]

...
When the ETH becomes pure PoS, it is more difficult to fork. That is according to the comments by the Vitalik himself.

What kind of POS have ETH ?
Probably it will be hard when most coins are on exchanges hahaha... and voting to change protocol will be will of
exchange owners today probably poloniex will be king.
I think that can be ETH issue. Polo was not hacked for long.
POS have problems with that matter people don't realy care about stacking coins for 1$ revenue while it cost 120$ year for power.
And we and in world where a bigger stacker will be exchanges - always online and big chunk of coins in their hand.

Maybe when we have the coins on the Poloniex. The staking interest should be paid to us by the Pononiex. Otherwise, it is unfair.

Poloniex does not pay staking that I am aware of.  I have had large amounts of staked coins in there for some time and never saw anything.

According to Poloniex they are not staking their users coins but in reality it's exaclty the opposite.

There are a few they are dedicated strictly to the staking coins online, but I see no reason to choose them above any other wallet/exchange that pays staking. 

So if you have the PoS coins, it is better not to trade in the Poloniex. The Poloniex are ripping off its clients.

The interest gain from staking a coin is not that high and I believe most people will agree with me that Poloniex is one of the best exchange out there if not the best and there is no proof that they are staking customers coins.

It depends on the PoS coins. Some coins has over 100% annual interest. So if you cannot get interest, you are losing.

[BitcoinNewsMagazine]

Bad call IMO. The charts tell the story look at ETC compared to ETH.

[Minecache]

Bad call IMO. The charts tell the story look at ETC compared to ETH.

Terrible call. And all those who encouraged the gullible into buying the ETC Criminal Coin should be in a court of law right now.

If the OP is reading this right now remember it's not too late to do the right thing and recoup some of your losses and sell your ETC bag back for ETH.

Gud luck.

[ronoa]

Bad call IMO. The charts tell the story look at ETC compared to ETH.

Terrible call. And all those who encouraged the gullible into buying the ETC Criminal Coin should be in a court of law right now.

If the OP is reading this right now remember it's not too late to do the right thing and recoup some of your losses and sell your ETC bag back for ETH.

Gud luck.

^Undeniably the best piece of advice OP should consider.

[vincentvincent]

Don't you worry about OP
I am doing fine.
 
Since the ETH blockchain cannot be trusted there is no real value in ETH blockchain. The money that ETH bagholders put into ETH is being used to develop the technology. The Ethereum Foundation knows better and is just selling theirs to fund development.

The only thing of value in ETH is the technology (not the current ETH blockchain): be aware that since the ETH technology is not good enough to withstand the outside, real internet climate (because it can be hacked easy), it can only be used for private blockchains.

[JeffBrad12]

Bad call IMO. The charts tell the story look at ETC compared to ETH.

Terrible call. And all those who encouraged the gullible into buying the ETC Criminal Coin should be in a court of law right now.

If the OP is reading this right now remember it's not too late to do the right thing and recoup some of your losses and sell your ETC bag back for ETH.

Gud luck.

Agree with this, ETH will more good with the criminal coin and seems this time is a good time for stopping your losses. caused by the crime coin.

[mining1]

Natural selection, only the strong survives. Unfortunately some people like OP must "die" for others to survive. Not everyone can be a victor, there's always a balance, in this case some people profit at some other people's expense (OP in this case). But atleast he has faith, probably only believes in ETC and GOD. Question is, which god ?

[bbc.reporter]

@mining1. But this is not nature. This is crypto and who are we to say what survives and what should die? Even if you justify it be saying that "it is the nature of things", there is also a justification that both can diverge and follow their own paths. Maybe later they can even co exist. In my opinion now is a good time to start hoarding ETC. It has proven to be quite resilient also despite threats of it being abandoned and attacked. Also Barry Silbert and Charles Hoskinson's support is nice.

[Daisy14]

Hoarding a new coin is not a very safe thing to do. The coin has to prove the test of time by staying in the market for at least 2 years before you can think of hoarding it for long term.

[mining1]

@bbc.reporter they can coexist ofcourse. I didn't mean literally die. This world needs janitors aswell.
Daisy, in crypto land 2 years is too long unless that specific project has a huge potential, like these projects that aim to be much more than currency, like ethereum. There are also a few more projects like that but tbh i don't believe in their capability to develop and further build, like lisk,waves etc, even tho i invested a small amount in them.

[jacafbiz]

@mining1. But this is not nature. This is crypto and who are we to say what survives and what should die? Even if you justify it be saying that "it is the nature of things", there is also a justification that both can diverge and follow their own paths. Maybe later they can even co exist. In my opinion now is a good time to start hoarding ETC. It has proven to be quite resilient also despite threats of it being abandoned and attacked. Also Barry Silbert and Charles Hoskinson's support is nice.

Interesting you mentioned Barry Silbert and Charles Hoskinson, to me Barry Silbert has invested in ETC but is He going to support the platform financially because nobody can denied that ETC has been able to attract good developers and with time people will be expecting them to start launching Dapps on the platform and this require funds to actualise, if he can help them open up partnership this will be good rather thn been a pump and dump coin also concerning Charles, He is a good guy but to me I think He got back into ETC just to prove something to ETH foundation rather than been driven by passion that other developers on ETC has for the project, He is the CEO of a company already.

[mining1]

Barry silbert doesnt really support ETC. Most likely scenario is this : Barry silbert hold alot of ETH, so after the fork, he also had alot of ETC, obviously. Now, if you have a small amount like me, it doesn't really make a big difference unless it's rising alot. But for someone who owns alot of ETC, it matters if you can raise it's value from 0.5$ to 1-3$ because in the end, it is free money right ?
Barry silbert "support" for ETC meant twitter tweets, that's all. He didn't make his adress public to show you that he didn't already dump it ( i believe he did, atleast a part of it ).
He was also challenged to make a smart contract so he would only be able to withdraw/sell only after ETC price would surpass ETH, to prove everyone he's legit and not a manipulator troll. He didn't respond that. Because that were his words, he wouldn't sell unless ETC would surpass ETH in price.
As for charles hoskinson, my opinion is that for some time now he's aware that ethereum was a huge missed opportunity for him, both as a career and money. Imagine you leave Apple in early days, later when you see it's gaining momentum and drawing alot of attention, even tho it is far from succes not to mention peak, you'll join some other similar project to catch up because you realise what a stupid mystake you've done. Thing is, he didn't leave apple to join samsung, he left apple to join some chinese company which makes fake toy phones.

[amacar2]

Don't you worry about OP
I am doing fine.
 
Since the ETH blockchain cannot be trusted there is no real value in ETH blockchain. The money that ETH bagholders put into ETH is being used to develop the technology. The Ethereum Foundation knows better and is just selling theirs to fund development.

The only thing of value in ETH is the technology (not the current ETH blockchain): be aware that since the ETH technology is not good enough to withstand the outside, real internet climate (because it can be hacked easy), it can only be used for private blockchains.

Yes actually after they just get good investment from big banks that shows they are being quite favourite for banks and government. Eth foundation, big investor banks, few devs of ETH doing all development and changes making it completely centralized blockchain right now. ETC may win more favor of public in future as no any foundation controls ETC right now.

[charleshoskinson]

Life's great for me. No regrets and having fun

[bbc.reporter]

Barry silbert doesnt really support ETC. Most likely scenario is this : Barry silbert hold alot of ETH, so after the fork, he also had alot of ETC, obviously. Now, if you have a small amount like me, it doesn't really make a big difference unless it's rising alot. But for someone who owns alot of ETC, it matters if you can raise it's value from 0.5$ to 1-3$ because in the end, it is free money right ?
Barry silbert "support" for ETC meant twitter tweets, that's all. He didn't make his adress public to show you that he didn't already dump it ( i believe he did, atleast a part of it ).
He was also challenged to make a smart contract so he would only be able to withdraw/sell only after ETC price would surpass ETH, to prove everyone he's legit and not a manipulator troll. He didn't respond that. Because that were his words, he wouldn't sell unless ETC would surpass ETH in price.
As for charles hoskinson, my opinion is that for some time now he's aware that ethereum was a huge missed opportunity for him, both as a career and money. Imagine you leave Apple in early days, later when you see it's gaining momentum and drawing alot of attention, even tho it is far from succes not to mention peak, you'll join some other similar project to catch up because you realise what a stupid mystake you've done. Thing is, he didn't leave apple to join samsung, he left apple to join some chinese company which makes fake toy phones.

Barry Silbert clearly said that he owned his first non bitcoin crypto when he got into ETC. He declared it in public thru his Twitter account. For me he did it more to spite the Ethereum foundation for doing the hard fork and going against one of the most important concepts in the cryptosphere that is maintaining immutability no matter what. I also believe he is also in support of ETC to prove a point against Vitalik and show it thru making the ETC platform a success.

I speculate Charles Hoskinson also has the same idea as Silbert and so do the owners and founders of Poloniex, Kraken and the ETC mining pools. The exchanges are less vocal but their actions speak a different tone by listing and supporting ETC.

[I Am Hero]

i sold all my eth and etc for bitcoin a while ago and got the hell out of there since it is becoming more and more unstable in both markets. i don't like seeing my money idle and even go down.

[StinkyLover]

Well now the ETH/ETC dust has settled it would be interesting to see how many hardcore ETC supporters are now long term bagholders waiting for ETC to rise (like all the other bagholders out there).

They were all warned.

On a positive note, at least it's still a viable blockchain. I'm actually more positive about it's future now it's survived this long and trading volume hasn't dropped to zero. Previous hype was just ETH-hating blowhards blowing as hard as they could.

[mining1]

Barry silbert doesnt really support ETC. Most likely scenario is this : Barry silbert hold alot of ETH, so after the fork, he also had alot of ETC, obviously. Now, if you have a small amount like me, it doesn't really make a big difference unless it's rising alot. But for someone who owns alot of ETC, it matters if you can raise it's value from 0.5$ to 1-3$ because in the end, it is free money right ?
Barry silbert "support" for ETC meant twitter tweets, that's all. He didn't make his adress public to show you that he didn't already dump it ( i believe he did, atleast a part of it ).
He was also challenged to make a smart contract so he would only be able to withdraw/sell only after ETC price would surpass ETH, to prove everyone he's legit and not a manipulator troll. He didn't respond that. Because that were his words, he wouldn't sell unless ETC would surpass ETH in price.
As for charles hoskinson, my opinion is that for some time now he's aware that ethereum was a huge missed opportunity for him, both as a career and money. Imagine you leave Apple in early days, later when you see it's gaining momentum and drawing alot of attention, even tho it is far from succes not to mention peak, you'll join some other similar project to catch up because you realise what a stupid mystake you've done. Thing is, he didn't leave apple to join samsung, he left apple to join some chinese company which makes fake toy phones.

Barry Silbert clearly said that he owned his first non bitcoin crypto when he got into ETC. He declared it in public thru his Twitter account. For me he did it more to spite the Ethereum foundation for doing the hard fork and going against one of the most important concepts in the cryptosphere that is maintaining immutability no matter what. I also believe he is also in support of ETC to prove a point against Vitalik and show it thru making the ETC platform a success.

I speculate Charles Hoskinson also has the same idea as Silbert and so do the owners and founders of Poloniex, Kraken and the ETC mining pools. The exchanges are less vocal but their actions speak a different tone by listing and supporting ETC.

Wrong, "he said" did he show any proof ? Cheap talk, why do you think chandler guo took the same attitude ? Because as i've explained, after the fork they owned an equal amount of ETC so they had to exploit it for profit. A bitcoin maximalist like barry shilbert would never acknowledge he owns a signifiant amount of ETH, because for most part bitcoin maximalists are anti ETH. But they would acknowledge they support ETC since they got it for free and it's " anti ethereum " movement, even tho they still depend 100% on ETH. I'ts easy to use your influence for your own benefit, as i said, if he really wanted to put his money where his mouth was he would have created a smart contract (or someone for him) that would have allowed him to withdraw only after ETC > ETH, as he "declared". But i suspect he was slowly dumping his bag so i doubt he owns a signifiant amount anymore. Same for guo, as i've read he attended devcon rofl.
I still own a small amount of ETC, but i'm waiting for another pump.

[Minecache]

Barry silbert doesnt really support ETC. Most likely scenario is this : Barry silbert hold alot of ETH, so after the fork, he also had alot of ETC, obviously. Now, if you have a small amount like me, it doesn't really make a big difference unless it's rising alot. But for someone who owns alot of ETC, it matters if you can raise it's value from 0.5$ to 1-3$ because in the end, it is free money right ?
Barry silbert "support" for ETC meant twitter tweets, that's all. He didn't make his adress public to show you that he didn't already dump it ( i believe he did, atleast a part of it ).
He was also challenged to make a smart contract so he would only be able to withdraw/sell only after ETC price would surpass ETH, to prove everyone he's legit and not a manipulator troll. He didn't respond that. Because that were his words, he wouldn't sell unless ETC would surpass ETH in price.
As for charles hoskinson, my opinion is that for some time now he's aware that ethereum was a huge missed opportunity for him, both as a career and money. Imagine you leave Apple in early days, later when you see it's gaining momentum and drawing alot of attention, even tho it is far from succes not to mention peak, you'll join some other similar project to catch up because you realise what a stupid mystake you've done. Thing is, he didn't leave apple to join samsung, he left apple to join some chinese company which makes fake toy phones.

Barry Silbert clearly said that he owned his first non bitcoin crypto when he got into ETC. He declared it in public thru his Twitter account. For me he did it more to spite the Ethereum foundation for doing the hard fork and going against one of the most important concepts in the cryptosphere that is maintaining immutability no matter what. I also believe he is also in support of ETC to prove a point against Vitalik and show it thru making the ETC platform a success.

I speculate Charles Hoskinson also has the same idea as Silbert and so do the owners and founders of Poloniex, Kraken and the ETC mining pools. The exchanges are less vocal but their actions speak a different tone by listing and supporting ETC.

Wrong, "he said" did he show any proof ? Cheap talk, why do you think chandler guo took the same attitude ? Because as i've explained, after the fork they owned an equal amount of ETC so they had to exploit it for profit. A bitcoin maximalist like barry shilbert would never acknowledge he owns a signifiant amount of ETH, because for most part bitcoin maximalists are anti ETH. But they would acknowledge they support ETC since they got it for free and it's " anti ethereum " movement, even tho they still depend 100% on ETH. I'ts easy to use your influence for your own benefit, as i said, if he really wanted to put his money where his mouth was he would have created a smart contract (or someone for him) that would have allowed him to withdraw only after ETC > ETH, as he "declared". But i suspect he was slowly dumping his bag so i doubt he owns a signifiant amount anymore. Same for guo, as i've read he attended devcon rofl.
I still own a small amount of ETC, but i'm waiting for another pump.

I'd get the hell out of the ETC Criminal Coin asap if I were you mate. That turkey is goosed. Do what I did and dump it for more ETH

[mining1]

Nope, not yet. I trust that the new bagholders aren't just bagholders, but worshipping bagholders, and because of that they will not exit ETC market at a loss. So i think ~1$ is the bottom short term - 3months, and most likely all the whales drained most of their bags, so it cannot possibly go much lower for now atleast. I'm waiting for another 2.5-3$ pump and i'm out.

[Spoetnik]

Well now the ETH/ETC dust has settled it would be interesting to see how many hardcore ETC supporters are now long term bagholders waiting for ETC to rise (like all the other bagholders out there).

They were all warned.

On a positive note, at least it's still a viable blockchain. I'm actually more positive about it's future now it's survived this long and trading volume hasn't dropped to zero. Previous hype was just ETH-hating blowhards blowing as hard as they could.

Agreed and both camps seem mighty quiet these days huh ?

Did the ETC'ers dump ?

[Minecache]

Well now the ETH/ETC dust has settled it would be interesting to see how many hardcore ETC supporters are now long term bagholders waiting for ETC to rise (like all the other bagholders out there).

They were all warned.

On a positive note, at least it's still a viable blockchain. I'm actually more positive about it's future now it's survived this long and trading volume hasn't dropped to zero. Previous hype was just ETH-hating blowhards blowing as hard as they could.

Agreed and both camps seem mighty quiet these days huh ?

Did the ETC'ers dump ?

Looks like it as ETC Criminal Coin is pretty dead now. No interest no developers and no big business. It's time to switch off the Criminal Coin servers.

[robstak]

Well now the ETH/ETC dust has settled it would be interesting to see how many hardcore ETC supporters are now long term bagholders waiting for ETC to rise (like all the other bagholders out there).

They were all warned.

On a positive note, at least it's still a viable blockchain. I'm actually more positive about it's future now it's survived this long and trading volume hasn't dropped to zero. Previous hype was just ETH-hating blowhards blowing as hard as they could.

Agreed and both camps seem mighty quiet these days huh ?

Did the ETC'ers dump ?

Maybe but not totally price still holding up which I did not expect.

[mining1]

Look what barry shilbert just posted few days ago, definitely a reason to buy more ETC, yes or no ??! https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/779030085731057664 .
HAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

[Docnaster]

I totally lost confidence in ETH since it cannot be longer called a blockchain after the HardFork.

Undoing history cannot be without consequences. I have thougth about it a couple of days and today I decide to sell all my eth for etc!

This is more possibility that Ethereum are cloned by Ethereum Classic Why did you trust Etc more than Ethereum that you can see there's are more potenial that ethereum can do than ETC and it's now in the long run why did you did trust ether than the unworhty ETC lol anyways thats your own decision tbh , i will definately choose Ethereum than ETC .

[Red-Apple]

i have kinda given up on ETC now because i am disappointed in the lack of rise that i was expecting from it but yet i shouldn't have expected much.

also i think ETH being the most manipulated coin which ever existed i think it is can be a better investment but only if it goes super low again. i will never buy it while it is high inside of a bubble.

[mining1]

Taking into consideration news from the past 1 month i'd say ethereum is really undervalued. Read crypto news sites, reddit, and see for yourself, too much interest from big corporations to either build on public / private blockchain, use public chain and the fact that some really cool dapps are close to being launched.

[Minecache]

Taking into consideration news from the past 1 month i'd say ethereum is really undervalued. Read crypto news sites, reddit, and see for yourself, too much interest from big corporations to either build on public / private blockchain, use public chain and the fact that some really cool dapps are close to being launched.

amen bro. ETH is actually a damn gud buy right now. Especially when you think about all the great future tech it is.

[sparklerz]

Taking into consideration news from the past 1 month i'd say ethereum is really undervalued. Read crypto news sites, reddit, and see for yourself, too much interest from big corporations to either build on public / private blockchain, use public chain and the fact that some really cool dapps are close to being launched.

amen bro. ETH is actually a damn gud buy right now. Especially when you think about all the great future tech it is.

And also it's awesome community separate ETH from the rest. 

[Rastanan]

Taking into consideration news from the past 1 month i'd say ethereum is really undervalued. Read crypto news sites, reddit, and see for yourself, too much interest from big corporations to either build on public / private blockchain, use public chain and the fact that some really cool dapps are close to being launched.

amen bro. ETH is actually a damn gud buy right now. Especially when you think about all the great future tech it is.

And also it's awesome community separate ETH from the rest. 

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[Xesystme]

Taking into consideration news from the past 1 month i'd say ethereum is really undervalued. Read crypto news sites, reddit, and see for yourself, too much interest from big corporations to either build on public / private blockchain, use public chain and the fact that some really cool dapps are close to being launched.

amen bro. ETH is actually a damn gud buy right now. Especially when you think about all the great future tech it is.

That could be right. There are still very active development for the Etheruem for the time being at least.

[Rastanan]

Taking into consideration news from the past 1 month i'd say ethereum is really undervalued. Read crypto news sites, reddit, and see for yourself, too much interest from big corporations to either build on public / private blockchain, use public chain and the fact that some really cool dapps are close to being launched.

amen bro. ETH is actually a damn gud buy right now. Especially when you think about all the great future tech it is.

That could be right. There are still very active development for the Etheruem for the time being at least.

The Ethereum is under attack at the moment. But the developers are acting properly. That gives us some confidence.

[rapazev]

ETH is forking again.... is there anyone using eth? how could you trust in such a thing?

[xuan87]

ETH is forking again.... is there anyone using eth? how could you trust in such a thing?

I think if ETh is forking again it will be the end of ETH, there wont be anyone going to trust this coin anymore, and along with the coin that being forked, there wont be any investor want to hold either ETH or ETC anymore, and how could ETh not learning their lesson after the first fork, hopefully ETH can handle the problem

[Shiroslullaby]

Are they actually considering another hard fork?
I can't believe anyone would support a coin after multiple forks.
It seems like the only ones who would be profitable at that point would be the devs and people with inside information who were able to get in/ out early.

[sabbirshm]

Damn! ETH is forking again and I think this will be the end of ETH.I won't trust it anymore and I think none wil be agreed to invest In ETH. It's their fault, because they should take measure steps to handle their problem in first fork.I am leaving ETH.

[Minecache]

Damn! ETH is forking again and I think this will be the end of ETH.I won't trust it anymore and I think none wil be agreed to invest In ETH. It's their fault, because they should take measure steps to handle their problem in first fork.I am leaving ETH.

You do understand that ETH forks all the time and has a roadmap as such? What do you Spoetniktards want, a dead stagnant coin that does fuck all? If so buy LTC or the ETC Criminal Coin.

[Nachbar90]

I don´t get the problem about those forks. Ethereum is much more complex than Bitcoin and backed by a strong community. All they are doing is improving this thing, which is good for everyone who participates in it. You will see a lot of forks of other currencies in future, as they become more public and more attention from hackers.

There might be other ETH forks in future, but who cares? As an ETH owner, you don´t have to do anything but updating your wallet. Your coins stay your coins. And for those who think they should stick with older versions of Ethereum, do it, but everything except of the main fork is just worthless.

[Xesystme]

I don´t get the problem about those forks. Ethereum is much more complex than Bitcoin and backed by a strong community. All they are doing is improving this thing, which is good for everyone who participates in it. You will see a lot of forks of other currencies in future, as they become more public and more attention from hackers.

There might be other ETH forks in future, but who cares? As an ETH owner, you don´t have to do anything but updating your wallet. Your coins stay your coins. And for those who think they should stick with older versions of Ethereum, do it, but everything except of the main fork is just worthless.

That is right. The Etheruem is still less than 2 years old. It will have more bugs to be debugged in the future.

[Rastanan]

I don´t get the problem about those forks. Ethereum is much more complex than Bitcoin and backed by a strong community. All they are doing is improving this thing, which is good for everyone who participates in it. You will see a lot of forks of other currencies in future, as they become more public and more attention from hackers.

There might be other ETH forks in future, but who cares? As an ETH owner, you don´t have to do anything but updating your wallet. Your coins stay your coins. And for those who think they should stick with older versions of Ethereum, do it, but everything except of the main fork is just worthless.

That is right. The Etheruem is still less than 2 years old. It will have more bugs to be debugged in the future.

Some people think there are fundamental bugs in the Ethereum as that is Turing Complete programming.

[ImHash]

I think ETC is too much cheap now and it has the potential to reach 10 times higher what it is now.

I also wanted to know about contracts on ETC, do we have any contract currently active on it?

[neverseven]

I think ETC is too much cheap now and it has the potential to reach 10 times higher what it is now.

I also wanted to know about contracts on ETC, do we have any contract currently active on it?

I seriously doubt that ETC will have a future, looking at the charts.

[BiTZeD]

I think ETC is too much cheap now and it has the potential to reach 10 times higher what it is now.

I also wanted to know about contracts on ETC, do we have any contract currently active on it?

I seriously doubt that ETC will have a future, looking at the charts.

Looking at the carts isn't a good idea. No one looking at the charts of Ethereum would have predicted that crazy pump at the beggining of the year.

[ashkanb]

I think ETC is too much cheap now and it has the potential to reach 10 times higher what it is now.

I also wanted to know about contracts on ETC, do we have any contract currently active on it?

I seriously doubt that ETC will have a future, looking at the charts.

Fud alert above!
now back to actual discussions!

been mining etc for a while saved most of it; i do think it's highly underpriced right now!
then again haven't been much in touch so i have no news what's going on within its community at allll!
no personal interest in the coin (nothing against it either) just looking for a good sell!

does any of our informed peers see a 200,000 satoshi/etc anytime soon?!
or a 2million sat/eth for that matter?!

*probably should've opened a new thread for this!

[Rutdam]

I think ETC is too much cheap now and it has the potential to reach 10 times higher what it is now.

I also wanted to know about contracts on ETC, do we have any contract currently active on it?

Did you see any good developments of the ETC? It cannot easily hard fork to protect the coin holders.

[crairezx20]

I think ETC is too much cheap now and it has the potential to reach 10 times higher what it is now.

I also wanted to know about contracts on ETC, do we have any contract currently active on it?

I seriously doubt that ETC will have a future, looking at the charts.

Looking at the carts isn't a good idea. No one looking at the charts of Ethereum would have predicted that crazy pump at the beggining of the year.

Do you think the proce of eth will be decrease because of the ETC rankings got increase .. and marketcap increased. or this is just a tricky one they are just invest their money into this coin just to increase the marketcap for rankings..??
Honestly i dont believe in ETC. but for ETH i'll stay since its top 2 in the rankings..

[Rastanan]

I think ETC is too much cheap now and it has the potential to reach 10 times higher what it is now.

I also wanted to know about contracts on ETC, do we have any contract currently active on it?

I seriously doubt that ETC will have a future, looking at the charts.

Looking at the carts isn't a good idea. No one looking at the charts of Ethereum would have predicted that crazy pump at the beggining of the year.

Do you think the proce of eth will be decrease because of the ETC rankings got increase .. and marketcap increased. or this is just a tricky one they are just invest their money into this coin just to increase the marketcap for rankings..??
Honestly i dont believe in ETC. but for ETH i'll stay since its top 2 in the rankings..

If the ETC has strong support from the community and can employ its own developers, the price could rise.