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October 01, 2016, 06:18:04 AM
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No bounty? The balance is very big there, you have raised so much money?
Share your refferal link for bounty.
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Im interested in this Project and already invested some ETH but I read some people complaining abt the Dev Team being anonymous.
How can you convince investors or make your project legit of no one from your Team can do an interview or something like that.
Also is it possible to buy more than one Kibo Platform Token? Im not talking abt KIBIT Tokens.
And I read also there are 350M KBT in Total and only 100M for the ICO so how will the rest be distributed?

Thank you and waiting for your reply.


Our developers are not well-known public figures. We don’t believe that publication of the team is a guarantee of success to the project, a vivid example of this isThe dao project, which for all its airs was a failure. In the message above
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Guys, we don’t understand what kind of anonymity you’re talking about, we’ve explained why we don’t publish information on our website. For objective reasons related to the field of gambling. We have repeatedly answered this question on our Slack channel. The team are completely not anonymous, we visited more than one conference. We have organised our own conferences, there is some video of it on our website https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqQl6FKysQQ. We also organize online webinars, here is a link to our last webinar for Russian-speaking partners, that was attended by nearly a thousand first-stage platform owners https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itqD5o2Yfrc (on one of the unofficial channels). Here is a link to the speaker, he is one of Kibo team members https://vk.com/andreymiller11. If wanted, this information can be found by anyone, but apparently there is no such here.
I’ve already said about our level of publicity and we believe that this is more than enough. In order for you to be able to make a correct assessment, we have posted the results of our work done, including ICO conditions that are completely clear. I hope for you this will be enough to make the right decision.

1)    The project includes a ready-designed user interface, including a mobile version of the site - video preview - https://vimeo.com/182504721
2)    Back offices for managing KiboPlatform are ready and will be distributed in amount of 2000 within ICO - access to the offices will be open today. https://kiboplatform.net/en/landing.html
3)    The code of several contracts is now open, the rest will be opened after completion of the audit  https://github.com/alfredwoooden/kibo_central. It is important to understand that this is not the final version and we are not going to run these contracts, we are in the development stage, as well as many other projects, and just demonstrate a part of our work. We repeatedly reported that we are at the stage of a code audit, and that of course the audit will eliminate bugs, it is a normal working process and everyone should understand this well.
4)    All legal issues is adresses by company http://www.mme.ch/en/ , Dr. Luka Müller, who is one of the few specialists in tokenizated eco systems, is directly involved.
5)    Important - A clear, tested marketing strategies for quickly attracting audiences, in the framework of which ICO is held. We emphasize that if you understand what this strategy is, you will understand that the funds raised under the sales people invest into the instrument of growth of their own assets. It's organization of a series of free drawings for several months. The marketing strategy is not only to attract users, but also to convert them into active, paying players and hold them using loyalty program. We do know how we will attract millions of users on the platform Kibo. All of this has been tested and shown to be effective on real people. And only part of the collected funds will be directed to the further development of the platform.

Purchase of more than one platform don’t get you any benefit. The same action for growing your own client base you can do on a single platform. Please read carefully sections sections Platform and Strategy on our website, there is clearly written about what benefits you can get from your platform - as how a customer base will gain, how it will grow by itself, ect.

As for your third question, KIBO is a commercial project with a set business model. During the ICO, we will sell 28,5% of all KIBO tokens ever released. In whole, we will release 350 mln KBT, among which 14% of the platforms turnover will be distributed. This percentage is set as the platform's earnings.As part of the marketing strategy during the ICO we will release 100 mln KBT, among which 4% of turnover will be distributed.The other 250 mln KBT are property of the dev team and will form the income of the company. They will be used at the descretion of the team - for example, invested in the development of the platform, into warrants inside the team and other strategic decisions.You can learn more about the mechanics of means of income generation, token interests, jackpot formation, etc. in our whitepaper.

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October 01, 2016, 07:51:26 AM
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We’ve reached up to the point of 2 100 000 $ in just 7 hours, that’s a good start. Thank you for your support, friends. Join us now during first 5 days of sale and you get 20% bonus.

https://kiboplatform.net

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October 01, 2016, 08:09:55 AM
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Im interested in this Project and already invested some ETH but I read some people complaining abt the Dev Team being anonymous.
How can you convince investors or make your project legit of no one from your Team can do an interview or something like that.
Also is it possible to buy more than one Kibo Platform Token? Im not talking abt KIBIT Tokens.
And I read also there are 350M KBT in Total and only 100M for the ICO so how will the rest be distributed?

Thank you and waiting for your reply.


Our developers are not well-known public figures. We don’t believe that publication of the team is a guarantee of success to the project, a vivid example of this isThe dao project, which for all its airs was a failure. In the message above (CCЫЛКA) I’ve already said about our level of publicity and we believe that this is more than enough. In order for you to be able to make a correct assessment, we have posted the results of our work done, including ICO conditions that are completely clear. I hope for you this will be enough to make the right decision.

1)    The project includes a ready-designed user interface, including a mobile version of the site - video preview - https://vimeo.com/182504721
2)    Back offices for managing KiboPlatform are ready and will be distributed in amount of 2000 within ICO - access to the offices will be open today. https://kiboplatform.net/en/landing.html
3)    The code of several contracts is now open, the rest will be opened after completion of the audit ayдитa https://github.com/alfredwoooden/kibo_central. It is important to understand that this is not the final version and we are not going to run these contracts, we are in the development stage, as well as many other projects, and just demonstrate a part of our work. We repeatedly reported that we are at the stage of a code audit, and that of course the audit will eliminate bugs, it is a normal working process and everyone should understand this well.
4)    All legal issues have been solved and solution for them are made by  http://www.mme.ch/en/ directly Dr. Luka Müller, who was one of the few specialists in tokenization eco systems.
5)    Important - A clear, tested marketing strategies for quickly attracting audiences, in the framework of which ICO is held. We emphasize that if you understand what this strategy is, you will understand that the funds raised under the sales people invest into the instrument of growth of their own assets. It's organization of a series of free drawings for several months. The marketing strategy is not only to attract users, but also to convert them into active, paying players and hold them using loyalty program. We do know how we will attract millions of users on the platform Kibo. All of this has been tested and shown to be effective on real people. And only part of the collected funds will be directed to the further development of the platform.

Purchase of more than one platform don’t get you any benefit. The same action for growing your own client base you can do on a single platform. Please read carefully sections sections Platform and Strategy on our website, there is clearly written about what benefits you can get from your platform - as how a customer base will gain, how it will grow by itself, ect.

As for your third question, KIBO is a commercial project with a set business model. During the ICO, we will sell 28,5% of all KIBO tokens ever released. In whole, we will release 350 mln KBT, among which 14% of the platforms turnover will be distributed. This percentage is set as the platform's earnings.As part of the marketing strategy during the ICO we will release 100 mln KBT, among which 4% of turnover will be distributed.The other 250 mln KBT are property of the dev team and will form the income of the company. They will be used at the descretion of the team - for example, invested in the development of the platform, into warrants inside the team and other strategic decisions.You can learn more about the mechanics of means of income generation, token interests, jackpot formation, etc. in our whitepaper.

Ok, so there will be trade for the Platforms? Can I sell my platform if I dont want it anymore? Also are you using any Escrow for your Crowdfund? or are investors safe
to be refunded in case you fail to launch your platform or in case you dont meet your crowdfund goal.
As for the Team identity question, I would rather want to know to whom my investment is going to - DAO case is another history to compare yourself to.
Who is behind the KiboPlatform bitcointalk account? and why is it only you posting here?
For someone holding his KBT, will he earns interest in a POS or something similar? If the 250m is just for the dev Team, that is really a BIG RED FLAG.

Thank you and waiting for some clarification.

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October 01, 2016, 08:14:55 AM
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any bounty dev
signature campaign facebook campaign twitter campaign avatar campaign
personal text campaign

maybe i will can be join is open bounty service
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October 01, 2016, 08:27:07 AM
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any bounty dev
signature campaign facebook campaign twitter campaign avatar campaign
personal text campaign

maybe i will can be join is open bounty service
You can share your refferal link and get you bonuses.
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Ok, so there will be trade for the Platforms? Can I sell my platform if I dont want it anymore? Also are you using any Escrow for your Crowdfund? or are investors safe
to be refunded in case you fail to launch your platform or in case you dont meet your crowdfund goal.
As for the Team identity question, I would rather want to know to whom my investment is going to - DAO case is another history to compare yourself to.
Who is behind the KiboPlatform bitcointalk account? and why is it only you posting here?
For someone holding his KBT, will he earns interest in a POS or something similar? If the 250m is just for the dev Team, that is really a BIG RED FLAG.

Thank you and waiting for some clarification.

1) Yes, you can sell your platform in the future. If you find a buyer. We don't  have a mechanism its sale. This can be done simply by transfer password, that can be changed, and email, after the buyer will have access to the platform.
2) Usually a guarantor is needed so the people would received their tokens, our sales is made in working contract. We can make changes right now in this contract, but it's only because a week ago DDoS attacks at Ethereum network began and the amount of gas in a block decreased from 4.5 million to 1.5. If you are familiar with this situation, you know that with this amount of gas in the block, download a large contract is simply impossible. So we had, in order that not to delay ICO date for reasons beyond us, to remove part of the contract and of course after ICO we will reload it with the data on the token from sales period. Those, we didn't need a guarantor, and we were going to give the opportunity to put tokens to your wallets on ICO stage, the main part of the contract is at this link https://github.com/alfredwoooden/kibo_central and you can easily see that the download of the contract require the full 4.5 million gas network but currently does not allow this. Yes, now you must understand all of this to purchase. But I want to draw your attention to a very important thing. It does not matter who is the guarantor of the fact that you get tokens. Today the market is trading a huge amount of tokens that don't cost anything. Because there is no working products behind them. In our case, we launch ICO with the product at the final stage of development, some of the work you can see in the post above.
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Guys, we don’t understand what kind of anonymity you’re talking about, we’ve explained why we don’t publish information on our website. For objective reasons related to the field of gambling. We have repeatedly answered this question on our Slack channel. The team are completely not anonymous, we visited more than one conference. We have organised our own conferences, there is some video of it on our website https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqQl6FKysQQ. We also organize online webinars, here is a link to our last webinar for Russian-speaking partners, that was attended by nearly a thousand first-stage platform owners https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itqD5o2Yfrc (on one of the unofficial channels). Here is a link to the speaker, he is one of Kibo team members https://vk.com/andreymiller11. If wanted, this information can be found by anyone, but apparently there is no such here.
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 If you are not satisfied with this information, we don't recommend you to participate in Kibo.
4) Kibo is a commercial project, we’re not charity organization. We believe that evaluation of an offer should be view not from the point of how much of the total turnover will be distributed but from how much potential a token has and how much you can earn on this investment. Agree that 30% of the turnover of a local grocery store, and 30% of the turnover of Google are two different things. Of course, we believe that our offer looks very interesting, if you properly analyze it. This is just our offer and you decide to take it or not. But this is not an argument for us that would change our business model.
Tokens are just free money for promotion in the form of daily draws that will be free and lasts for about six months and this will be the tool to attract customers for the platform owners. And so we believe that if investors invest in this tool, the benefits that they can get for their money assistance for providing Kibo is very significant. Once again, please note that we already have the money for the implementation of the marketing plan and ICO it is just a matter of scaling. Funds for the promotion are publicly available at this address.https://etherscan.io/address/0x38355ab2667eD167CaDcD132603bc6236c8295de.  We understand that Kibo not a simple project, and many people are unable to understand all of it, but that’s fine, for them there is a simpler designs. Again, we don’t force anyone to anything, everyone makes their own decisions.

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October 01, 2016, 01:58:20 PM
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 If you are not satisfied with this information, we don't recommend you to participate in Kibo.

I already invested and you did not have to say something like this.

Also my question abt who is behind KiboPlatform bitcointalk account is very simple to answer. I did not ask to see your picture but at know
who you are. WAVES and LISK dev Team have their identity exposed to the public and currently their are doing fine with their projects and I
invested in both.
So in my understanding, the 250M KBT will be used for the lotto winnings? or just a part of it?

Thank you for taking your time to reply.

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October 01, 2016, 02:49:05 PM
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We’ve reached up to the point of 2 100 000 $ in just 7 hours, that’s a good start. Thank you for your support, friends. Join us now during first 5 days of sale and you get 20% bonus.

https://kiboplatform.net

WTF... It is insane, Ethereum whales are very very rich. They buy ico like just eating, piece of cake for them..  Shocked Shocked

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Is this project a marketing pyramid scheme like with add on blockchain/ decentralize?
 the investors have to pay to be a member !
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October 01, 2016, 03:06:37 PM
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Tai of cryptocurrency market had quite some feedback:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr4LEag6HuU

Any rebuttal?

We don’t believe that publication of the team is a guarantee of success to the project
Yes, non-anonymous devs is only one sign they will try honestly their best to succeed. It's not a guarantee the start up will take up. Anonymous devs however are more likely to scam and run with the money. Satoshi Nakamoto was anonymous. He gave us bitcoin. He did not need an ico. Yet this project succeeded.

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Tai of cryptocurrency market had quite some feedback:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr4LEag6HuU

Any rebuttal?

We don’t believe that publication of the team is a guarantee of success to the project
Yes, non-anonymous devs is only one sign they will try honestly their best to succeed. It's not a guarantee the start up will take up. Anonymous devs however are more likely to scam and run with the money. Satoshi Nakamoto was anonymous. He gave us bitcoin. He did not need an ico. Yet this project succeeded.
True and it is because of Bitcoin success, all these altcoins are born today.

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Tai of cryptocurrency market had quite some feedback:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr4LEag6HuU

Any rebuttal?

We don’t believe that publication of the team is a guarantee of success to the project
Yes, non-anonymous devs is only one sign they will try honestly their best to succeed. It's not a guarantee the start up will take up. Anonymous devs however are more likely to scam and run with the money. Satoshi Nakamoto was anonymous. He gave us bitcoin. He did not need an ico. Yet this project succeeded.

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Hi, I’m a team member of Kibo. Unfortunately, I must warn you that this respected person doesn’t understand what he is talking about or gives false information on purpose. In order to prove this, simply go through the website and read the terms of ICO to see that there is completely different conditions. I don’t understand why respected Tai Zen didn’t even bother to read the website before making his review. It looks like a cheap PR, which isn’t present is not a single word of truth, and you can prove this by going to our Slack channel and ask any questions. There is a great team behind Kibo with a well-thought-out marketing strategy, tech experts, lawyers and other members of our team.

1. The project includes a ready-designed user interface, including a mobile version of the site - video preview - https://vimeo.com/182504721
2. Back offices for managing KiboPlatform are ready and will be distributed in amount of 2000 within ICO - access to the offices will be open today. https://kiboplatform.net/en/landing.html
3. The code of several contracts is now open, the rest will be opened after completion of the audit https://github.com/alfredwoooden/kibo_central. It is important to understand that this is not the final version and we are not going to run these contracts, we are in the development stage, as well as many other projects, and just demonstrate a part of our work. We repeatedly reported that we are at the stage of a code audit, and that of course the audit will eliminate bugs, it is a normal working process and everyone should understand this well.
4. 4   All legal issues is adresses by company http://www.mme.ch/en/ , Dr. Luka Müller, who is one of the few specialists in tokenizated eco systems, is directly involved.
5. Important - A clear, tested marketing strategies for quickly attracting audiences, in the framework of which ICO is held. We emphasize that if you understand what this strategy is, you will understand that the funds raised under the sales people invest into the instrument of growth of their own assets. It's organization of a series of free drawings for several months. The marketing strategy is not only to attract users, but also to convert them into active, paying players and hold them using loyalty program. We do know how we will attract millions of users on the platform Kibo. All of this has been tested and shown to be effective on real people. And only part of the collected funds will be directed to the further development of the platform.

Unfortunately, we see that today in the wake of great interest in Kibo, some people are trying to attract more audience to their resources and it's sad. Guys, in order that you were convinced that I don't just accuse this man of dishonesty, I offer you to do this: if someone would be able to reason-why prove that we are as this man says a scam or fraudulent scheme, we instantly translate this person $ 10,000. I take responsibility for this words, you can use this text as proof of what I said. Here is my page on the social network - https://vk.com/cribys1  Good luck to you friends and please be careful.

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 If you are not satisfied with this information, we don't recommend you to participate in Kibo.

I already invested and you did not have to say something like this.

Also my question abt who is behind KiboPlatform bitcointalk account is very simple to answer. I did not ask to see your picture but at know
who you are. WAVES and LISK dev Team have their identity exposed to the public and currently their are doing fine with their projects and I
invested in both.
So in my understanding, the 250M KBT will be used for the lotto winnings? or just a part of it?

Thank you for taking your time to reply.

Let me explain a little bit more what this 250m KBT is. Normal state lotteries take 50% of each ticket sold. For Kibo is 10%. On 250 million KIBIT 10% of the total ticket sales, ie is the company's revenue, is charged. Kibo is a commercial project and the team has reserved 250 million tokens, ie, 10% of income. For this Kibo is created, to make a profit.

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Tai of cryptocurrency market had quite some feedback:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr4LEag6HuU

Any rebuttal?

We don’t believe that publication of the team is a guarantee of success to the project
Yes, non-anonymous devs is only one sign they will try honestly their best to succeed. It's not a guarantee the start up will take up. Anonymous devs however are more likely to scam and run with the money. Satoshi Nakamoto was anonymous. He gave us bitcoin. He did not need an ico. Yet this project succeeded.

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Hi, I’m a team member of Kibo. Unfortunately, I must warn you that this respected person doesn’t understand what he is talking about or gives false information on purpose. In order to prove this, simply go through the website and read the terms of ICO to see that there is completely different conditions. I don’t understand why respected Tai Zen didn’t even bother to read the website before making his review. It looks like a cheap PR, which isn’t present is not a single word of truth, and you can prove this by going to our Slack channel and ask any questions. There is a great team behind Kibo with a well-thought-out marketing strategy, tech experts, lawyers and other members of our team.

1. The project includes a ready-designed user interface, including a mobile version of the site - video preview - https://vimeo.com/182504721
2. Back offices for managing KiboPlatform are ready and will be distributed in amount of 2000 within ICO - access to the offices will be open today. https://kiboplatform.net/en/landing.html
3. The code of several contracts is now open, the rest will be opened after completion of the audit https://github.com/alfredwoooden/kibo_central. It is important to understand that this is not the final version and we are not going to run these contracts, we are in the development stage, as well as many other projects, and just demonstrate a part of our work. We repeatedly reported that we are at the stage of a code audit, and that of course the audit will eliminate bugs, it is a normal working process and everyone should understand this well.
4. 4   All legal issues is adresses by company http://www.mme.ch/en/ , Dr. Luka Müller, who is one of the few specialists in tokenizated eco systems, is directly involved.
5. Important - A clear, tested marketing strategies for quickly attracting audiences, in the framework of which ICO is held. We emphasize that if you understand what this strategy is, you will understand that the funds raised under the sales people invest into the instrument of growth of their own assets. It's organization of a series of free drawings for several months. The marketing strategy is not only to attract users, but also to convert them into active, paying players and hold them using loyalty program. We do know how we will attract millions of users on the platform Kibo. All of this has been tested and shown to be effective on real people. And only part of the collected funds will be directed to the further development of the platform.

Unfortunately, we see that today in the wake of great interest in Kibo, some people are trying to attract more audience to their resources and it's sad. Guys, in order that you were convinced that I don't just accuse this man of dishonesty, I offer you to do this: if someone would be able to reason-why prove that we are as this man says a scam or fraudulent scheme, we instantly translate this person $ 10,000. I take responsibility for this words, you can use this text as proof of what I said. Here is my page on the social network - https://vk.com/cribys1  Good luck to you friends and please be careful.

The very fact that you are offering transfer $10,000 to any person who proves that this is a fraudulent scheme already sets alarm bells ringing.

Are you honestly going to be sending 10K to someone who destroys your project?

That's really disingenuous and quite frankly reflects badly off you cause I can guarantee that you would not be honouring that bet.

You will fight tooth and nail and rebutt every single argument.

How about you escrow that 10 K and then you can talk......
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October 02, 2016, 03:56:05 AM
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Tai of cryptocurrency market had quite some feedback:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr4LEag6HuU

Any rebuttal?

We don’t believe that publication of the team is a guarantee of success to the project
Yes, non-anonymous devs is only one sign they will try honestly their best to succeed. It's not a guarantee the start up will take up. Anonymous devs however are more likely to scam and run with the money. Satoshi Nakamoto was anonymous. He gave us bitcoin. He did not need an ico. Yet this project succeeded.

Duplicate comments for this video
Hi, I’m a team member of Kibo. Unfortunately, I must warn you that this respected person doesn’t understand what he is talking about or gives false information on purpose. In order to prove this, simply go through the website and read the terms of ICO to see that there is completely different conditions. I don’t understand why respected Tai Zen didn’t even bother to read the website before making his review. It looks like a cheap PR, which isn’t present is not a single word of truth, and you can prove this by going to our Slack channel and ask any questions. There is a great team behind Kibo with a well-thought-out marketing strategy, tech experts, lawyers and other members of our team.

1. The project includes a ready-designed user interface, including a mobile version of the site - video preview - https://vimeo.com/182504721
2. Back offices for managing KiboPlatform are ready and will be distributed in amount of 2000 within ICO - access to the offices will be open today. https://kiboplatform.net/en/landing.html
3. The code of several contracts is now open, the rest will be opened after completion of the audit https://github.com/alfredwoooden/kibo_central. It is important to understand that this is not the final version and we are not going to run these contracts, we are in the development stage, as well as many other projects, and just demonstrate a part of our work. We repeatedly reported that we are at the stage of a code audit, and that of course the audit will eliminate bugs, it is a normal working process and everyone should understand this well.
4. 4   All legal issues is adresses by company http://www.mme.ch/en/ , Dr. Luka Müller, who is one of the few specialists in tokenizated eco systems, is directly involved.
5. Important - A clear, tested marketing strategies for quickly attracting audiences, in the framework of which ICO is held. We emphasize that if you understand what this strategy is, you will understand that the funds raised under the sales people invest into the instrument of growth of their own assets. It's organization of a series of free drawings for several months. The marketing strategy is not only to attract users, but also to convert them into active, paying players and hold them using loyalty program. We do know how we will attract millions of users on the platform Kibo. All of this has been tested and shown to be effective on real people. And only part of the collected funds will be directed to the further development of the platform.

Unfortunately, we see that today in the wake of great interest in Kibo, some people are trying to attract more audience to their resources and it's sad. Guys, in order that you were convinced that I don't just accuse this man of dishonesty, I offer you to do this: if someone would be able to reason-why prove that we are as this man says a scam or fraudulent scheme, we instantly translate this person $ 10,000. I take responsibility for this words, you can use this text as proof of what I said. Here is my page on the social network - https://vk.com/cribys1  Good luck to you friends and please be careful.

The very fact that you are offering transfer $10,000 to any person who proves that this is a fraudulent scheme already sets alarm bells ringing.

Are you honestly going to be sending 10K to someone who destroys your project?

That's really disingenuous and quite frankly reflects badly off you cause I can guarantee that you would not be honouring that bet.

You will fight tooth and nail and rebutt every single argument.

How about you escrow that 10 K and then you can talk......


If you pay attention, notice that this post is addressed precisely to this video. In which, for reasons unknown to us, the man deceives people and makes the emphasis on the fact that Kibo is a scam or fraudulent scheme. This can be done for two reasons, either the person isn’t competent in this and he didn’t understand it, or he wants to take a free ride on the wave of Kibo's advertising company and just bring extra attention to his resource. Both options make us think about decency of this respected blogger.
Of course all the things that he says - are complete nonsense. That’s why at this video we’ve said that we are willing to pay $10,000 to a person, who will be able to explain why Kibo is a scam. Because prove this argumentatively is impossible. It has already been done a lot, and when we started a dialogue with people, who didn’t understand some of the details Kibo marketing strategy, it’s all ended in the same way, person has ended in arguments, and he accepted our point of view and, moreover, became our investor. Everyone who undertakes to prove it would call into question their reputation in the future, and this risk maybe will push them to more fully understand what Kibo is, before record such video. Unfortunately, we can’t talk to everyone in person or get people to read more carefully the information on our website and delve into the essence of Kibo launch.
In a personal conversation we would be happy to explain how all the details of the project are interrelated. And I’m sure that you would all realize that this is a complex marketing tool on which professional marketers worked for a very long time, and we know what we're doing. If you don’t delve into the details, you can't immediately understand this. We can try to start this dialogue here, but for that we need clear questions, so that we can give you detailed answers. I suggest to start with what a platform is and why it costs 10 ETH, where does this money go and why are platforms distributed in this manner on ICO stage. If you understand this, it will already be easier to understand the rest of the details. If you are interested, we can cover this in detail in the following answer ??

KIBO Lotto is a First Blockchain Lottery based on Smart Contracts. ICO coming!
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I just saw a video about this. It said stay away? How can you give away $1,000,000 lottery price every drawing?
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Tai of cryptocurrency market had quite some feedback:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr4LEag6HuU

Any rebuttal?

We don’t believe that publication of the team is a guarantee of success to the project
Yes, non-anonymous devs is only one sign they will try honestly their best to succeed. It's not a guarantee the start up will take up. Anonymous devs however are more likely to scam and run with the money. Satoshi Nakamoto was anonymous. He gave us bitcoin. He did not need an ico. Yet this project succeeded.

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Hi, I’m a team member of Kibo. Unfortunately, I must warn you that this respected person doesn’t understand what he is talking about or gives false information on purpose. In order to prove this, simply go through the website and read the terms of ICO to see that there is completely different conditions. I don’t understand why respected Tai Zen didn’t even bother to read the website before making his review. It looks like a cheap PR, which isn’t present is not a single word of truth, and you can prove this by going to our Slack channel and ask any questions. There is a great team behind Kibo with a well-thought-out marketing strategy, tech experts, lawyers and other members of our team.

1. The project includes a ready-designed user interface, including a mobile version of the site - video preview - https://vimeo.com/182504721
2. Back offices for managing KiboPlatform are ready and will be distributed in amount of 2000 within ICO - access to the offices will be open today. https://kiboplatform.net/en/landing.html
3. The code of several contracts is now open, the rest will be opened after completion of the audit https://github.com/alfredwoooden/kibo_central. It is important to understand that this is not the final version and we are not going to run these contracts, we are in the development stage, as well as many other projects, and just demonstrate a part of our work. We repeatedly reported that we are at the stage of a code audit, and that of course the audit will eliminate bugs, it is a normal working process and everyone should understand this well.
4. 4   All legal issues is adresses by company http://www.mme.ch/en/ , Dr. Luka Müller, who is one of the few specialists in tokenizated eco systems, is directly involved.
5. Important - A clear, tested marketing strategies for quickly attracting audiences, in the framework of which ICO is held. We emphasize that if you understand what this strategy is, you will understand that the funds raised under the sales people invest into the instrument of growth of their own assets. It's organization of a series of free drawings for several months. The marketing strategy is not only to attract users, but also to convert them into active, paying players and hold them using loyalty program. We do know how we will attract millions of users on the platform Kibo. All of this has been tested and shown to be effective on real people. And only part of the collected funds will be directed to the further development of the platform.

Unfortunately, we see that today in the wake of great interest in Kibo, some people are trying to attract more audience to their resources and it's sad. Guys, in order that you were convinced that I don't just accuse this man of dishonesty, I offer you to do this: if someone would be able to reason-why prove that we are as this man says a scam or fraudulent scheme, we instantly translate this person $ 10,000. I take responsibility for this words, you can use this text as proof of what I said. Here is my page on the social network - https://vk.com/cribys1  Good luck to you friends and please be careful.

The very fact that you are offering transfer $10,000 to any person who proves that this is a fraudulent scheme already sets alarm bells ringing.

Are you honestly going to be sending 10K to someone who destroys your project?

That's really disingenuous and quite frankly reflects badly off you cause I can guarantee that you would not be honouring that bet.

You will fight tooth and nail and rebutt every single argument.

How about you escrow that 10 K and then you can talk......


If you pay attention, notice that this post is addressed precisely to this video. In which, for reasons unknown to us, the man deceives people and makes the emphasis on the fact that Kibo is a scam or fraudulent scheme. This can be done for two reasons, either the person isn’t competent in this and he didn’t understand it, or he wants to take a free ride on the wave of Kibo's advertising company and just bring extra attention to his resource. Both options make us think about decency of this respected blogger.
Of course all the things that he says - are complete nonsense. That’s why at this video we’ve said that we are willing to pay $10,000 to a person, who will be able to explain why Kibo is a scam. Because prove this argumentatively is impossible. It has already been done a lot, and when we started a dialogue with people, who didn’t understand some of the details Kibo marketing strategy, it’s all ended in the same way, person has ended in arguments, and he accepted our point of view and, moreover, became our investor. Everyone who undertakes to prove it would call into question their reputation in the future, and this risk maybe will push them to more fully understand what Kibo is, before record such video. Unfortunately, we can’t talk to everyone in person or get people to read more carefully the information on our website and delve into the essence of Kibo launch.
In a personal conversation we would be happy to explain how all the details of the project are interrelated. And I’m sure that you would all realize that this is a complex marketing tool on which professional marketers worked for a very long time, and we know what we're doing. If you don’t delve into the details, you can't immediately understand this. We can try to start this dialogue here, but for that we need clear questions, so that we can give you detailed answers. I suggest to start with what a platform is and why it costs 10 ETH, where does this money go and why are platforms distributed in this manner on ICO stage. If you understand this, it will already be easier to understand the rest of the details. If you are interested, we can cover this in detail in the following answer ??

I'd be well wary of trying to bring Tai Zen's reputation in question.

Tai Zen is a very well respected member of the crypto community and to insinuate that he just wants to piggy-back on your reputation is laughable.

Didn't Vitalik himself say that there are issues with Kibo's code and that it's not particularly suited for the task you are planning to use it for?

My belief is that you are just trying to jump on the band-wagon to make as much dosh as possible, but that's solely my opinion.

As an entity who's seeking investment, it's up to you to make every effort to dispel whatever misconceptions future investors might have.

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October 02, 2016, 05:41:45 AM
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just one thing yeah, is it possible for us to promote for referral without buying the platform?

Instead in this case, maybe lets say

I Refer 4 person. The Comission is 3 ETH per ref. I Got 4 so in total i get 12.

Despite i never have the platform, the 12 ETH i earn will auto get me 1 platform + 2 ETH Comission?

Thanks
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any bounty dev
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