adoell (OP)
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August 07, 2016, 06:33:01 PM |
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is this paying everyday??
Yes. Payouts are made at 12am GMT of every day.
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meyer lansky
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August 07, 2016, 08:26:53 PM |
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You are still failing to see but that is nothing but your own theory that we are putting in money from our own wallet rather than trading. OK now I definitely know you are simply running a standard ponzi script you've bought, as you are demonstrably incapable of understanding basic financial structures. You clearly would be incapable of operating a legitimate trading platform. No need for your hullabaloos.The main commandment of the hyip world is,''invest only what you can afford to lose''.Hyip is high-yield investment program aka hypertension-yield investment program. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-yield_investment_program
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jackg
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August 07, 2016, 08:49:48 PM |
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Well, the design is very ugly. I don't trust shitty projects. Skipping this.
Thanks for the feedback @supermoney! We would rather only interested investors, than slanderous members of the comm@unity, such as yourself. This is definelty a ponzi! Though early investors may earn somemoney from it (OP will earn the most). (PS: if that isn't a bought account, then you haven't the intelligence to notice you get red trust for advertising this type of "low" risk scheme - it's actually high risk involved). Well, the design is very ugly. I don't trust shitty projects. Skipping this.
You shouldn't trust this anyway as I'm 90% sure this is a ponzi! 1. That account is an alt of a known scammer/slanderous user as you can tell by the newbie and negative trust rating 2. We will prove to the community that we aren't a Ponzi with reports proving that we are indeed earning profit, and not operating under a Ponzi structure More explanation on what a Ponzi actually is, compared to us, will be posted within the next 24 hours. -bitcoinbloom Pffft, proof of payment doesn't mean that it's legit it just means that you are paying. remember hashocean? They were paying for several months until they turned scam. What account are you referring too? You completely misread our post We are saying proof that we are making profit on your investments, to prove what we are claiming is doing is what we are really doing Let me ask you a question...did HashOcean allow you to see their wallet balances publicly and at any time? The answer is no. We have 2 addresses. For deposits, and for payouts, making us completely transparent for our investors. Why would a Ponzi scheme be completely open with their balances for the public to see? I'll leave that to answer for yourself I've looked at your website but there appears to be one glaring omission: if I send you my bitcoins, what would I actually be investing in? How are you generating such high guaranteed returns? What's your portfolio?
Both Arbitrage Trading and Altcoin trading are key factors into the high ROI. The ETC/ETH/BTC markets are an absolute gold mine at the moment and are one of our main focuses for trading. Of course once these opportunities subsede and die out, new ones arise which we can take advantage of. We will provide proof of our profits from trading every few days in a report format post. Most likely after a full cycle is complete, we'll post them once every 3~ days depending on the demand of our service. So if you're trading it on the exchanges, which frankly, I could do myself, how can you guarantee that I will get my investment back? However good your instinct for the markets you are not immune from losses, and if you're so good at trading that you can make those kind of returns, what do you need investors for? Why not just keep reinvesting your own coins and keep all the returns for yourself? Either you're a ponzi or you want to gamble without risking your own money. Either way, thanks for replying but count me out. No one is stopping you from doing it yourself, if you have months of research behind you and years of experience, then by all means do so. We use our investments combined with our own capital making it easier to generate your profit while also maximising ours. abd simply "trading over and over" is not posisble and everyone knows this, hence there is a maximum invedtment. The point of taking in investors is to constantly turn over funds and allow us to increase our capital making it easier to profit from smaller arbitrage opportunities. Simple as that. If you need any more clarification feel free to post. If that first post was about me then my account or I have never been interested in buying or selling goods of any sort and I have never scammed anyone (unlike you OP) If this isn't a Ponzi, then it's in the wrong forum section. It should be in investments, not investor based games or the gambling section entirely. (You skipped over me stating that you purchased this account - just to point out)
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adoell (OP)
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August 07, 2016, 10:08:56 PM |
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Well, the design is very ugly. I don't trust shitty projects. Skipping this.
Thanks for the feedback @supermoney! We would rather only interested investors, than slanderous members of the comm@unity, such as yourself. This is definelty a ponzi! Though early investors may earn somemoney from it (OP will earn the most). (PS: if that isn't a bought account, then you haven't the intelligence to notice you get red trust for advertising this type of "low" risk scheme - it's actually high risk involved). Well, the design is very ugly. I don't trust shitty projects. Skipping this.
You shouldn't trust this anyway as I'm 90% sure this is a ponzi! 1. That account is an alt of a known scammer/slanderous user as you can tell by the newbie and negative trust rating 2. We will prove to the community that we aren't a Ponzi with reports proving that we are indeed earning profit, and not operating under a Ponzi structure More explanation on what a Ponzi actually is, compared to us, will be posted within the next 24 hours. -bitcoinbloom Pffft, proof of payment doesn't mean that it's legit it just means that you are paying. remember hashocean? They were paying for several months until they turned scam. What account are you referring too? You completely misread our post We are saying proof that we are making profit on your investments, to prove what we are claiming is doing is what we are really doing Let me ask you a question...did HashOcean allow you to see their wallet balances publicly and at any time? The answer is no. We have 2 addresses. For deposits, and for payouts, making us completely transparent for our investors. Why would a Ponzi scheme be completely open with their balances for the public to see? I'll leave that to answer for yourself I've looked at your website but there appears to be one glaring omission: if I send you my bitcoins, what would I actually be investing in? How are you generating such high guaranteed returns? What's your portfolio?
Both Arbitrage Trading and Altcoin trading are key factors into the high ROI. The ETC/ETH/BTC markets are an absolute gold mine at the moment and are one of our main focuses for trading. Of course once these opportunities subsede and die out, new ones arise which we can take advantage of. We will provide proof of our profits from trading every few days in a report format post. Most likely after a full cycle is complete, we'll post them once every 3~ days depending on the demand of our service. So if you're trading it on the exchanges, which frankly, I could do myself, how can you guarantee that I will get my investment back? However good your instinct for the markets you are not immune from losses, and if you're so good at trading that you can make those kind of returns, what do you need investors for? Why not just keep reinvesting your own coins and keep all the returns for yourself? Either you're a ponzi or you want to gamble without risking your own money. Either way, thanks for replying but count me out. No one is stopping you from doing it yourself, if you have months of research behind you and years of experience, then by all means do so. We use our investments combined with our own capital making it easier to generate your profit while also maximising ours. abd simply "trading over and over" is not posisble and everyone knows this, hence there is a maximum invedtment. The point of taking in investors is to constantly turn over funds and allow us to increase our capital making it easier to profit from smaller arbitrage opportunities. Simple as that. If you need any more clarification feel free to post. If that first post was about me then my account or I have never been interested in buying or selling goods of any sort and I have never scammed anyone (unlike you OP) If this isn't a Ponzi, then it's in the wrong forum section. It should be in investments, not investor based games or the gambling section entirely. (You skipped over me stating that you purchased this account - just to point out) We have never scammed anyone. Our program is legitimate, and paying. If we did put this in securities where it belongs, it would be moved here by a moderator in any case.
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cryptodevil
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August 08, 2016, 07:49:26 AM |
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We have never scammed anyone. Our program is legitimate, and paying. So how is your program legitimate when it is a known HYIP and all HYIPs are ponzi/pyramid schemes which generate no income external to the funds that are deposited? If we did put this in securities where it belongs, it would be moved here by a moderator in any case. Why would that be if you claim to not be a HYIP/Ponzi ?
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adoell (OP)
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August 08, 2016, 09:26:32 AM |
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We have never scammed anyone. Our program is legitimate, and paying. So how is your program legitimate when it is a known HYIP and all HYIPs are ponzi/pyramid schemes which generate no income external to the funds that are deposited? If we did put this in securities where it belongs, it would be moved here by a moderator in any case. Why would that be if you claim to not be a HYIP/Ponzi ? We will prove the highlighted comment wrong in a few days when we post our first full report to prove to you that we have made profit, and that are generating income other than funds deposited. As for securities, that's sadly the way this forum works. We have already tried posting there and it was moved straight away to here without allowing us to prove to a moderator.
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adoell (OP)
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August 08, 2016, 10:22:28 AM |
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payments incoming in 1 hour and 40 minutes
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August 08, 2016, 10:51:37 AM |
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We will prove the highlighted comment wrong in a few days when we post our first full report to prove to you that we have made profit, and that are generating income other than funds deposited.
I'll be eager to see the evidence and then you can add print screen of the places you do trading and the links of those places you do trading? Will be an important step in the history, I have not seen a HYIP site make profit without being ponzi. I will be very attentive to any information you post.
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adoell (OP)
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August 08, 2016, 10:56:29 AM |
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We will prove the highlighted comment wrong in a few days when we post our first full report to prove to you that we have made profit, and that are generating income other than funds deposited.
I'll be eager to see the evidence and then you can add print screen of the places you do trading and the links of those places you do trading? Will be an important step in the history, I have not seen a HYIP site make profit without being ponzi. I will be very attentive to any information you post. Posting screenshots will only throw accusations of 'edited' images...there is no point. Instead of this, a very detailed report displaying the profit made and proving our wallet balance to be outweighing deposits (proving that we really are earning your interest) will be posted.
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cryptodevil
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August 08, 2016, 11:03:35 AM |
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I have not seen a HYIP site make profit without being ponzi. There's nothing to suggest this one will be any different. It offers an extremely unrealistic fixed rate of return and the OP has absolutely nothing to support his claim of it being backed by trading. Simply repeating that he is in control of a coin address which he is making payments out from isn't evidence of anything. Still ponzi.
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adoell (OP)
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August 08, 2016, 11:08:39 AM |
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I have not seen a HYIP site make profit without being ponzi. There's nothing to suggest this one will be any different. It offers an extremely unrealistic fixed rate of return and the OP has absolutely nothing to support his claim of it being backed by trading. Simply repeating that he is in control of a coin address which he is making payments out from isn't evidence of anything. Still ponzi. Again, having a wallet balance larger than total deposits completely undermines the ponzi definition: "A Ponzi scheme (also a Ponzi game or a Ponzi) is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned through legitimate sources." How is it possible to be a ponzi scheme if more money is in the program than what has been received in deposits? The definition of a ponzi is completely opposite to this. I am definitely repeating myself, as I am responding to the same statements you are posting.
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cryptodevil
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August 08, 2016, 11:14:14 AM |
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Is any of this 'news' going to be independently verifiable?
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adoell (OP)
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August 08, 2016, 11:45:20 AM |
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Is any of this 'news' going to be independently verifiable?
Daily news is simply how much has been paid for the day... Reports are less frequent though go a lot more in depth and cover days of activity. these reports will be posted approx day 5-7 where a distinguishable profit has been made, and that yes, you can independently verify that its not just us 'paying investors with deposits' bear with us.
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August 08, 2016, 11:57:09 AM |
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cryptodevil
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August 08, 2016, 12:16:54 PM |
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Reports are less frequent though go a lot more in depth and cover days of activity. these reports will be posted approx day 5-7 where a distinguishable profit has been made Well you must have already made a day's worth of profit to have made today's profit payout, yes? So surely you can simply print up your trading history for today's profit? Otherwise it looks simply like you've taken in lump sums in deposit and have paid a fraction of those deposits straight back out in the pretence that it is profit you have generated from trading. As every other ponzi-posing-as-legitimate-investment-platform does.
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adoell (OP)
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August 08, 2016, 12:24:06 PM |
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Reports are less frequent though go a lot more in depth and cover days of activity. these reports will be posted approx day 5-7 where a distinguishable profit has been made Well you must have already made a day's worth of profit to have made today's profit payout, yes? So surely you can simply print up your trading history for today's profit? Otherwise it looks simply like you've taken in lump sums in deposit and have paid a fraction of those deposits straight back out in the pretence that it is profit you have generated from trading. As every other ponzi-posing-as-legitimate-investment-platform does. Posting every 5-7 days (a full cycle on our site) will show an accurate representation of what our stance is looking like, as people who invested will start to receive their deposits back. If we post now, profit will look a lot higher than it actually will be in the days to come as the 100% deposit back's are not yet repaid.
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cryptodevil
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August 08, 2016, 12:40:04 PM |
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Posting every 5-7 days (a full cycle on our site) will show an accurate representation of what our stance is looking like, as people who invested will start to receive their deposits back. What your 'stance is looking like'? That doesn't even make sense. You are claiming to offer a return of 170% in seven days. That is your 'stance'. If we post now, profit will look a lot higher than it actually will be in the days to come as the 100% deposit back's are not yet repaid. See, again, this is the sort of talk that makes me wonder if you even understand numbers outside of operating a basic ponzi script. Your excuses for not showing anything appear to be exactly that, excuses. So far there is NOTHING in this thread to separate you from every other ponzi scam.
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