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Author Topic: (WTS) Old Chinese Silver coin, Fen-tien province One Tael. "Dragon coin."  (Read 938 times)
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August 12, 2016, 02:20:11 PM
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http://www.pcgs.com/News/Pcgs-Certifies-1903-Fengtien-Tael-One-Of-Chinas-Most-Important


http://sv.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2vl0g75&s=9#.V63atqJWLOU
http://sv.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6rsw2w&s=9


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1btc for start.

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August 12, 2016, 03:21:32 PM
Last edit: August 13, 2016, 05:05:39 PM by Zepher
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http://www.pcgs.com/News/Pcgs-Certifies-1903-Fengtien-Tael-One-Of-Chinas-Most-Important

my quote: ~snip~ upload these to imgur please, and use the 'Direct Link' option, or "BB Forum Code" option, and repost them. These do not work wihtout going to an external site, which is filled with pop ups and crap.

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1btc for start.

1 BTC to start...?

Right. Okay. You have linked an article from PCGS, the world renowned coin graders. Fine, that is great, thank you.

But..

Do you have any idea of how many fakes there are out there for this coin? You link a coin graded by PCGS, but are offering an ungraded coin, therefore your link is worthless.
You also have a chunk of negative feedback, so nobody is going to believe this to be a genuine coin, or that you are a genuine seller.

In fact, I have one of these coins... Fake of course. It looks similar to yours.

Provide some better pictures, and lower your estimates. If this is genuine, your best bet is to get it graded yourself, and then sell it on eBay.
If you want to offer it through the forum, please prove this is genuine.

and offer escrow, or you may as well kill this thread now.

Thanks,
Zepher

I should have added. That linked coin is worth $5 million.

Edit: Actually scrap that, you have been neg tagged by several default trust members. Good luck selling this, irrelevant of how you try and prove your claims that this, or you, are legit.

Edit 2: Then you tag me Grin haha.

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August 12, 2016, 06:49:02 PM
Last edit: August 12, 2016, 07:05:38 PM by Zepher
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LOL... You left me negative trust for my post above?  Huh

Lets see some proof of your claims that I "wanted to buy" this.

Not gonna happen, right??

Because I have not even PM'd you, you twit.

If I receive red trust for trying to help other forum members avoid getting ripped off by someone such as yourself, then that is the price I am willing to pay, swescammer Smiley

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August 12, 2016, 07:00:25 PM
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But, Zepher, check it out, he's clearly a really smart dude. LMFAO... Moron scammers. Grin

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August 12, 2016, 07:32:15 PM
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No comment...  Grin



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funnny that these are not even close to same, you can see that those are new and fake productions.
my coin has usage and wear, and is not even the same color.


But yeah. everyone wanting to be experts now days.

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August 12, 2016, 10:01:24 PM
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But, Zepher, check it out, he's clearly a really smart dude. LMFAO... Moron scammers. Grin

Hahaha, thanks for that Cheesy


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August 12, 2016, 10:52:52 PM
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But, Zepher, check it out, he's clearly a really smart dude. LMFAO... Moron scammers. Grin

Hahaha, thanks for that Cheesy




oh yeah i remeber that, sp20 overlocked to 3.2thz on winter. mhmm i must be dumb. lol.

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But yeah. everyone wanting to be experts now days.
Why not send it to the acutal experts, aka getting it graded?
We'll talk once you got the graded coin in hand, whether or not it's a genuine one, alright?

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August 12, 2016, 10:57:21 PM
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But yeah. everyone wanting to be experts now days.
Why not send it to the acutal experts, aka getting it graded?
We'll talk once you got the graded coin in hand, whether or not it's a genuine one, alright?

Yeah already submitted a petition.
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August 12, 2016, 11:04:53 PM
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But yeah. everyone wanting to be experts now days.
Why not send it to the acutal experts, aka getting it graded?
We'll talk once you got the graded coin in hand, whether or not it's a genuine one, alright?

Yeah already submitted a petition.
 Wink


So whats with the lying in the negative trust you left me?? Please provide some proof for your unfounded accusations.

I don't give a shit about your trust, leave it there for all I care. The people who have dealt with me know I am trustworthy.

The problem is you have used it as an attack against me, simply because you could not be bothered to sit down and type up a reply to my post.
This makes you look like a complete dumbass. If you can provide proof as to the authenticity of this coin, I am happy to remove my post.

Btw, IF this coin is real, it is worth a FUCKTON MORE than 1 BTC, and you would not be trying to sell it on a bitcoin forum...

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August 12, 2016, 11:13:32 PM
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But yeah. everyone wanting to be experts now days.
Why not send it to the acutal experts, aka getting it graded?
We'll talk once you got the graded coin in hand, whether or not it's a genuine one, alright?

Yeah already submitted a petition.
 Wink


So whats with the lying in the negative trust you left me?? Please provide some proof for your unfounded accusations.

I don't give a shit about your trust, leave it there for all I care. The people who have dealt with me know I am trustworthy.

The problem is you have used it as an attack against me, simply because you could not be bothered to sit down and type up a reply to my post.
This makes you look like a complete dumbass. If you can provide proof as to the authenticity of this coin, I am happy to remove my post.

Btw, IF this coin is real, it is worth a FUCKTON MORE than 1 BTC, and you would not be trying to sell it on a bitcoin forum...


Maybe you start going to the school and get some Reading understanding. haha.
I don't even bother whit people like you flaming.

I know what i have, i know everyone here is greedy.

Let me remind you, that BTC is as fake as you propose this coin to be, you collecting Digital coin is like working for paper money.

Now you know that money, is not everything in life.

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August 12, 2016, 11:31:16 PM
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Maybe you start going to the school and get some Reading understanding. haha.
I don't even bother whit people like you flaming.

I know what i have, i know everyone here is greedy.

Let me remind you, that BTC is as fake as you propose this coin to be, you collecting Digital coin is like working for paper money.

Now you know that money, is not everything in life.

Apologies, but I had to just quote this moron for posterity... So funny. Here you are, trying to sell for BTC, yet you are disparaging people for BTC being "Fake"...  Roll Eyes

How about this, scammer/moron?


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But yeah. everyone wanting to be experts now days.
Why not send it to the acutal experts, aka getting it graded?
We'll talk once you got the graded coin in hand, whether or not it's a genuine one, alright?

Yeah already submitted a petition.
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So whats with the lying in the negative trust you left me?? Please provide some proof for your unfounded accusations.

I don't give a shit about your trust, leave it there for all I care. The people who have dealt with me know I am trustworthy.

The problem is you have used it as an attack against me, simply because you could not be bothered to sit down and type up a reply to my post.
This makes you look like a complete dumbass. If you can provide proof as to the authenticity of this coin, I am happy to remove my post.

Btw, IF this coin is real, it is worth a FUCKTON MORE than 1 BTC, and you would not be trying to sell it on a bitcoin forum...


Maybe you start going to the school and get some Reading understanding. haha.
I appreciate english isn't your first language, and I have nothing against you for that, but please try make some sense when you post something.

I don't even bother whit people like you flaming.
Flaming? Where did I originally flame you? Okay, swe, here's a deal for you. If you truly believe this coin to be genuine, send it off for authentication by PCGS... if it turns out to be real, and the coin is an authenticated 1903 Fengtien Tael, I will give you AT LEAST 5 BTC for it. Feel free to quote this post so I cannot edit it later.

I know what i have, i know everyone here is greedy.
Not everyone is greedy. Some people are here to be a part of a small community, and these people contribute in ways that benefit a lot of the community. Irrelevant of what you believe, not everyone is here to make as much money off of as many people as possible.

Let me remind you, that BTC is as fake as you propose this coin to be, you collecting Digital coin is like working for paper money.
This, as owlcatz has pointed out, is utter bullshit. You want BTC for this coin, yet BTC is fake, yet you want it anyway? Huh Contradict yourself much?

Now you know that money, is not everything in life. We can at least agree there. Thumbs up.

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next time, just use archive.is to save his bullshit before he edits it... Thanks.. too funny. retarded scammers...   Roll Eyes

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next time, just use archive.is to save his bullshit before he edits it... Thanks.. too funny. retarded scammers...   Roll Eyes


Yeah because, avoiding taxes,using money laundrying, and using fake valuta, is anymore smarter than rest of the people.

You all just sound like greedy bastards, that sweated for Fake Bank paper money to buy machines to harvest fake internet money.

It is like chinese farmers playing games to sell game money.


So the only thing BTC is for; criminal activities, Tax Avoidance.

Because the dream of Taking banks down already whent, and the bankers already have and holds this fake money.

Are you really that smart?.

I have a Rare coin wich you are interested in, else non of you would be argueing of it's authenticity.


It have circulation wear off.
So no it is not a 5 miljon coin, those coins were uncirculated.

Second, it is not a Copper PLated Silver coin as you can see on the wear off the copper should have shown, it is not a copy.

Third. Already took it to a Pawn Shop, ACtually many, to verify that it is a Real Silver coin.

Fourth, The coin Is not perfect it have imperfections like all "real" coins, Those fakes are to perfect .

Fifth; The coin is totally different from your fake link, if your eyes can't see the difference then we have the problem why you can't see that BTC is as fake as your Standards.



BE sure that when it is Authenticated wich is already in Progress the price won't be this, and The coin won't Be Sold here, I would rather keep it.

Chances are that i am already a miljonair, wich you guys are trying to be on the BTC Enterprise Race.


Lol good luck suckers, get your eyes checked.

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next time, just use archive.is to save his bullshit before he edits it... Thanks.. too funny. retarded scammers...   Roll Eyes


I have not edited anything...


Who is the retarded one?, The retard whoe believes the retard that want's to buy it for a bargain, or the retard who that wants to buy it at a bargain price ?.

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Looks like the trust system is being misused.

Sweminer777, please remove negative trust with Zepher, Defcon, and anyone else. 

Zepher and Defcon have not betrayed your trust. They may have insulted you, but they didn't deceive you in any way.  That is what the trust system is about.  It is to give reviews for people who you have done business with, not for being vindictive because of some online insults and jokes.  Just don't let anyone get under your skin about your coin.

Once you get your coin valued, you can set an appropriate price.  In the meantime, take the high road.  (No, I'm not telling you to get high...in fact I think you may be a little too high! Cheesy )   Just kidding! 

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Yeah because, avoiding taxes,using money laundrying, and using fake valuta, is anymore smarter than rest of the people.

Say again? How did tax avoidance and money laundering come into this? If I understand you correctly, you are saying that because we use Bitcoin, we are all avoiding paying our taxes and are also involved in illegal money laundering. What?
Also, doesn't that make you a criminal too?


You all just sound like greedy bastards, that sweated for Fake Bank paper money to buy machines to harvest fake internet money.

You do realise that you've posted in the 'Collectibles' section, right?

It is like chinese farmers playing games to sell game money.

I don't even have a response for this one.


So the only thing BTC is for; criminal activities, Tax Avoidance.

Okay, we seem to have established that. Carry on... /s

Because the dream of Taking banks down already whent, and the bankers already have and holds this fake money.

It is still early days, my uneducated friend. Who would have thought in 2011 that Bitcoin would be where it currently is? You seem to be one of those people that cry "Bitcoin is dead!" for the 100th time. Bitcoin is still in its infancy.
Bitcoin is decentralised by design, but with the sheer amount of people that use it, some centralisation is always going to happen.
Taking your last comment into account, just say theoretically that the "bankers" in your scenario hold a lot of bitcoin/fake money. Do you think that in such a situation, they could tell and enforce you into doing what they want with YOUR bitcoins/fake money? If anything, it is the MINERS that have control of the Bitcoin Network.


Are you really that smart?.

I never claimed to be smart. But I try and stay informed.
But again, we are in the Collectibles section, and I don't know what this has to do with anything
Huh

I have a Rare coin wich you are interested in, else non of you would be argueing of it's authenticity.

Another useless comment.. Which does not even make any sense. We are arguing about its authenticity because you are listing a million dollar coin on a bitcoin forum, and advocating it as genuine without proof. Politely piss off.


It have circulation wear off.
So no it is not a 5 miljon coin, those coins were uncirculated.

Okay....

Second, it is not a Copper PLated Silver coin as you can see on the wear off the copper should have shown, it is not a copy.

Third. Already took it to a Pawn Shop, ACtually many, to verify that it is a Real Silver coin.

I will answer both of these statements together.
So, you do not think that someone would go to the lenghts of using real silver to produce a fake coin that could potentially be sold for a ton of money to some idiot stupid enough to believe it is genuine, solely because it is made out of silver? If you believe that, you do not know anything about the coin market.


Fourth, The coin Is not perfect it have imperfections like all "real" coins, Those fakes are to perfect .

That has imperfections because it has been handed around as a token for God knows how long.

Fifth; The coin is totally different from your fake link, if your eyes can't see the difference then we have the problem why you can't see that BTC is as fake as your Standards.

Not my link. But I digress. That link is yet another cheap chinese copy, and you are right, it is not silver. I do not know whether yours is. Again, it doesn't make it genuine if it is silver.

BE sure that when it is Authenticated wich is already in Progress the price won't be this, and The coin won't Be Sold here, I would rather keep it.

Damn, if I had a million dollar coin lying around, I would be selling as soon as it was authenticated. I could buy nearly EVERY piece of physical crypto ever created Grin with the exceptions of the 1000BTC Coins/Bars.
Okay, maybe 1 x Cas 2011 1000 BTC 1oz Gold.


Chances are that i am already a miljonair, wich you guys are trying to be on the BTC Enterprise Race.

If you turn out to be a millionaire from this coin, then good on you. Chances are slim though.
By the way, if it happens because of that coin, let us know, and I will write you an apology thread. True words.



Lol good luck suckers, get your eyes checked.

Thanks for the reminder, I have an appointment with my optometrist next week.

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