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September 21, 2015, 03:43:09 PM
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What types of damage could the machine takes if they are placed outside in the scandinavian winter.

whit roof . no walls ?

any overclock pocibilities?


Let's say s5 machines sp20s ?

this is the idea.

The Blow will be outside and the intake will be pulled from downside.


PLacing the Miners on the balconi the intake should not bring any moisture from the downside.

Weather is pretty dry were i live.

The little box will be weather prooff so no water or snow will be getting inside.



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September 21, 2015, 03:52:42 PM
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What types of damage could the machine takes if they are placed outside in the scandinavian winter.

whit roof . no walls ?

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Let's say s5 machines sp20s ?

No walls? What about rain/snow? Tongue Condensation might be a problem I guess?
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September 21, 2015, 03:55:45 PM
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you need to override fan settings for miners outside.
I used my garage last year.
 (Michigan) I saw alot of failures due to hotspots, keep the fans blowing all the time, it can be set to lower sped, but circulation is important or you're going to end up with potentially damaged equipment.
or just a fwe large fans blowing across the whole farm is another option if you have the room.
but at least tarp to walls to keep moisture out
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September 21, 2015, 04:03:52 PM
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Thermal stress will reduce your equipment's lifespan and blowing snow will get through your HVAC and destroy the machines.
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September 21, 2015, 10:18:56 PM
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As long as the miner stays on so it generates heat, does not get wet, has air circulation and stays clean I would think it will do fine.

I might be concerned about the wiring getting to brittle if it gets really cold.

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September 21, 2015, 10:51:45 PM
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As long as the miner stays on so it generates heat, does not get wet, has air circulation and stays clean I would think it will do fine.

I might be concerned about the wiring getting to brittle if it gets really cold.


yeah i am building a box to put them inside, whit the exhaust out of the windows .

It kinda will have two sides and intake will facing inside the buildingn whit the extra roof.

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September 21, 2015, 11:12:29 PM
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yeah i am building a box to put them inside, whit the exhaust out of the windows .

It kinda will have two sides and intake will facing inside the buildingn whit the extra roof.

You've got it backwards, you want intake to be from the windows outside so you intake cool air.  You want exhaust pointed inside so you heat the inside of your building during the winter "for free".
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September 22, 2015, 12:43:31 AM
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yeah i am building a box to put them inside, whit the exhaust out of the windows .

It kinda will have two sides and intake will facing inside the buildingn whit the extra roof.

You've got it backwards, you want intake to be from the windows outside so you intake cool air.  You want exhaust pointed inside so you heat the inside of your building during the winter "for free".

I would be pretty scared of this box outside.  You have to make it where air can escape depending on box this could allow snow/water/ice/etc from -20 not sure what you will get with hot miners beside it.

But I would look at way's to put miners inside and exhaust outside.   Water damage could be very bad.
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September 22, 2015, 07:35:59 AM
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Your equipment will damaged because of the snow and fog. Water is killing for technical equipment. You better get it with walls with a good ventilation system from outside. It will reduce cooling costs a lot.
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September 22, 2015, 07:38:21 AM
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As long as you don't get wet on your machines it sounds like a good idea. -20 would be too much, dunno if any electronic devicewould work at that temperature.
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September 22, 2015, 07:47:16 AM
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As long as you don't get wet on your machines it sounds like a good idea. -20 would be too much, dunno if any electronic devicewould work at that temperature.

I think the hardest part is letting air in and out.  This is needed to run miners an intake and exhaust of air.  OP is talking about a roof and 2 sides I believe this leaves 2 sides open to the elements.

The miners chances are will heat up.  And when they do you will be running with water/ice inside i think.   You cannot make air tight so it leaves it to elements of outdoors.

I still highly suggest moving inside with miners and send exhaust outside.  Water can do a lot of damage.
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September 22, 2015, 11:46:18 AM
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As long as you don't get wet on your machines it sounds like a good idea. -20 would be too much, dunno if any electronic devicewould work at that temperature.

I think the hardest part is letting air in and out.  This is needed to run miners an intake and exhaust of air.  OP is talking about a roof and 2 sides I believe this leaves 2 sides open to the elements.

The miners chances are will heat up.  And when they do you will be running with water/ice inside i think.   You cannot make air tight so it leaves it to elements of outdoors.

I still highly suggest moving inside with miners and send exhaust outside.  Water can do a lot of damage.

There won't be any kind of elements getting inside, discard this, as there will be a roof over the "box" whit roof.

The Air is dry so to carry mositure it wont be that easy.

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September 22, 2015, 01:38:00 PM
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Not only wiring becomes breakable at this temperature. Any of the plastic details inside your miners may splinter too.
They are not joking when they say that Operating Conditions for S5 are: 0 °C to 35 °C. So be careful.

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September 22, 2015, 03:05:57 PM
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Why would you want it outside? -20 Celsius is insane, you HAVE to keep it warm *always* at that temperature, at least 5 Celsius. (or the miner's silicon plastic bitties will snap) If the intake air is -20 Celcius, you simply can't mine with it outside. It will freeze the tech inside of the miner and effectively destroy it. If your outside temperature is -20 C, you must have a hell of a time heating up your house, turn that heater right off and buy a few more S7s and make yourself a foot heater.

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September 22, 2015, 03:23:12 PM
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Your idea is kinda a small version of my setup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfmfdEjRkWU

Pulling in cold air thru window, straight thru the miners, and out (some inside the house for heating).
It can get as low as -20 to -25 during the really bad winter days, hopefully it will work out!

I'd say go for it, just make sure the box is "sealed". You should consider trying it with an older ASIC first, to make sure you don't ruin it..

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September 22, 2015, 03:49:48 PM
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As long as you don't get wet on your machines it sounds like a good idea. -20 would be too much, dunno if any electronic devicewould work at that temperature.

I think the hardest part is letting air in and out.  This is needed to run miners an intake and exhaust of air.  OP is talking about a roof and 2 sides I believe this leaves 2 sides open to the elements.

The miners chances are will heat up.  And when they do you will be running with water/ice inside i think.   You cannot make air tight so it leaves it to elements of outdoors.

I still highly suggest moving inside with miners and send exhaust outside.  Water can do a lot of damage.

There won't be any kind of elements getting inside, discard this, as there will be a roof over the "box" whit roof.

The Air is dry so to carry mositure it wont be that easy.

Is it snow or ice by miner?   I'm guessing ice with temp but snow still could fall I'm guessing.

I just think if air is able to get in possibly some bad elements could to.  If snow or ice is pushing against intake when it snows and it melts seems possible for it to come inside of the box.  I just have not seen anyone done this at these temps before.

And I could be wrong, just don't see to many miners outside, and specifically at this temp.
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September 22, 2015, 03:55:07 PM
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True notlist3d! Maybe a watercooled solution is the way to go? With external radiator(s). Then you could probably seal the box off?
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September 22, 2015, 06:17:09 PM
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As long as you don't get wet on your machines it sounds like a good idea. -20 would be too much, dunno if any electronic devicewould work at that temperature.

I think the hardest part is letting air in and out.  This is needed to run miners an intake and exhaust of air.  OP is talking about a roof and 2 sides I believe this leaves 2 sides open to the elements.

The miners chances are will heat up.  And when they do you will be running with water/ice inside i think.   You cannot make air tight so it leaves it to elements of outdoors.

I still highly suggest moving inside with miners and send exhaust outside.  Water can do a lot of damage.

There won't be any kind of elements getting inside, discard this, as there will be a roof over the "box" whit roof.

The Air is dry so to carry mositure it wont be that easy.

Is it snow or ice by miner?   I'm guessing ice with temp but snow still could fall I'm guessing.

I just think if air is able to get in possibly some bad elements could to.  If snow or ice is pushing against intake when it snows and it melts seems possible for it to come inside of the box.  I just have not seen anyone done this at these temps before.

And I could be wrong, just don't see to many miners outside, and specifically at this temp.



Yeah but it wont come anything from the underside it will be sealed aswell, hot air goes up, and cold air will go down..

Intake will always be fresh air.


If cpus can hold nitrogen why would -20 c affect the chips ?

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September 22, 2015, 06:45:11 PM
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As long as you don't get wet on your machines it sounds like a good idea. -20 would be too much, dunno if any electronic devicewould work at that temperature.

I think the hardest part is letting air in and out.  This is needed to run miners an intake and exhaust of air.  OP is talking about a roof and 2 sides I believe this leaves 2 sides open to the elements.

The miners chances are will heat up.  And when they do you will be running with water/ice inside i think.   You cannot make air tight so it leaves it to elements of outdoors.

I still highly suggest moving inside with miners and send exhaust outside.  Water can do a lot of damage.

There won't be any kind of elements getting inside, discard this, as there will be a roof over the "box" whit roof.

The Air is dry so to carry mositure it wont be that easy.

Is it snow or ice by miner?   I'm guessing ice with temp but snow still could fall I'm guessing.

I just think if air is able to get in possibly some bad elements could to.  If snow or ice is pushing against intake when it snows and it melts seems possible for it to come inside of the box.  I just have not seen anyone done this at these temps before.

And I could be wrong, just don't see to many miners outside, and specifically at this temp.



Yeah but it wont come anything from the underside it will be sealed aswell, hot air goes up, and cold air will go down..

Intake will always be fresh air.


If cpus can hold nitrogen why would -20 c affect the chips ?

It will freeze the inside of the miner when it isn't generating heat/the parts of it that don't generate heat. -20 C is really pretty insane, just run it inside if your outside temp is that cold.

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September 22, 2015, 07:23:26 PM
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As long as you don't get wet on your machines it sounds like a good idea. -20 would be too much, dunno if any electronic devicewould work at that temperature.

I think the hardest part is letting air in and out.  This is needed to run miners an intake and exhaust of air.  OP is talking about a roof and 2 sides I believe this leaves 2 sides open to the elements.

The miners chances are will heat up.  And when they do you will be running with water/ice inside i think.   You cannot make air tight so it leaves it to elements of outdoors.

I still highly suggest moving inside with miners and send exhaust outside.  Water can do a lot of damage.

There won't be any kind of elements getting inside, discard this, as there will be a roof over the "box" whit roof.

The Air is dry so to carry mositure it wont be that easy.

Is it snow or ice by miner?   I'm guessing ice with temp but snow still could fall I'm guessing.

I just think if air is able to get in possibly some bad elements could to.  If snow or ice is pushing against intake when it snows and it melts seems possible for it to come inside of the box.  I just have not seen anyone done this at these temps before.

And I could be wrong, just don't see to many miners outside, and specifically at this temp.



Yeah but it wont come anything from the underside it will be sealed aswell, hot air goes up, and cold air will go down..

Intake will always be fresh air.


If cpus can hold nitrogen why would -20 c affect the chips ?

I hope I am wrong as I would love to see this insane box of mining.  I just think decent chance intake could take a little water/ice if wind blows it up.

I don't think we have seen anyone run a miner at this low -20.  So again would be interesting if you do it.
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