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August 15, 2016, 11:53:47 AM |
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Sure, Bitcoin probably started out that way and unfortunately keeps its reputation as the "drug money of choice". I remember reading the original Galker and Slashdot articles in 2010-11 explaining how to use Bitcoin for the Silk Road complete with onion links. (It used to piss theymos off so much back then if you linked to the Galker article in a post your post would be deleted. LOL)
I was intrigued and wanted to know more about this "Bitcoin" thing. It was the first time I ever heard about Bitcoin or the Silk Road. I came here to look around and ended up having a few mining discussions with organofcorti and Goat. I slowly realized I could be at the start of something that could make history (or at least make me some extra scratch). I started mining heavily because of the influence of the two guys mentioned above and TerryTibbs (for ltc).
I definitely would never have found out about Bitcoin without its notorious drug connection.
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Kotone
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August 15, 2016, 11:54:12 AM |
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You can use bitcoin to buy candies and US dollars to buy drugs, that's up to you, the money doesn't spend itself.
I agree with that. Bitcoin cant count as a criminal case unless used it at bad things. For example, you bought some drugs that are illegal in your country, that will count as a crime. But if you use your bitcoin to buy a Legit Car, then that will not count as a crime.
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August 15, 2016, 11:58:30 AM |
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it is not true !!! bitcoin payments are digital media that is designed to facilitate everyone to make remittance. those who use it for criminal actions are irresponsible. bitcoin provides positive impact !!
Yes. Thats true. Bitcoin is created only for positive things. Not for doing some crimes online. But if you would look how bitcoin is used, you can see that bitcoin is also used to buy and sell things without telling your own Identity. And thats one reason why bitcoin is used for anonymous transactions online.
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August 15, 2016, 12:29:53 PM |
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And fiat money is a real life currency for criminal. Whats your point?
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August 15, 2016, 02:34:00 PM |
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Tell them that they are idiots since they don't know that most of the crime is being used under fiat currencies. Show them the data and then they cannot say that again: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.bitcoin.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F12%2Fchart.png&t=665&c=p5C9Ix9JG9pWLQ)
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August 15, 2016, 02:56:02 PM |
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Hey guys,
I want discuss about bitcoin. 2 weeks ago my friend asking me, 'What's your job now,i said trading bitcoin bro'
He surprised about my statement. I ask 'why?why you looks like that' He said,'it possible?money for criminal like that can be used for trading?'
I answer,'why not?that legal,thats money is depend ur purpose,buy or sell something,or you will donation for terrorist.
Any have same statement like me?
Tell him, " he is need learning more about the technology "and to building their logic because all of the currency is aving a chance for criminal, not only bitcoin. but your friend is lack of knowledge about logic
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August 15, 2016, 03:10:26 PM |
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Hey guys,
I want discuss about bitcoin. 2 weeks ago my friend asking me, 'What's your job now,i said trading bitcoin bro'
He surprised about my statement. I ask 'why?why you looks like that' He said,'it possible?money for criminal like that can be used for trading?'
I answer,'why not?that legal,thats money is depend ur purpose,buy or sell something,or you will donation for terrorist.
Any have same statement like me?
At the moment, bitcoin has really limited use. Most likely the terrorist/criminal will still need to cash out to fiats before they can buy what they need. At the end of the day, fiats are actually the real currencies used by them.
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August 15, 2016, 03:14:38 PM |
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Hey guys,
I want discuss about bitcoin. 2 weeks ago my friend asking me, 'What's your job now,i said trading bitcoin bro'
He surprised about my statement. I ask 'why?why you looks like that' He said,'it possible?money for criminal like that can be used for trading?'
I answer,'why not?that legal,thats money is depend ur purpose,buy or sell something,or you will donation for terrorist.
Any have same statement like me?
these people are idiots who think this way about bitcoin, their thought process is like this: they look at themselves and see they are not using bitcoin, and they don't even know what bitcoin is. then thinking more they recall a faded memory of reading something somewhere about someone who used bitcoin to do an illegal act like buying drugs so they make the conclusion that bitcoin is for criminals. and this fault is on the media for showing bitcoin this way.
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August 15, 2016, 03:15:39 PM |
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if someone labeled bitcoin as criminal money then ask him why he did not say that dollars are criminal money too? most of drugs and weapons and terrorist funds are in dollar not in bitcoin! do not blame someone sells knives for a crime is done by knive
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August 15, 2016, 03:27:33 PM |
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Why do you ask such questions? You are member already and here we have many threads about connection between bitcoin and criminal activities, how you didn`t saw all that? Bitcoin is currency like any other, and bitcoin can be used for good and bad, like dollar or euro.. you already saw some very good comments about this, don`t be lazy, search around forum a bit more and you can find many useful information`t about how to explain to people what is bitcoin, and how to explain them that bitcoin is not criminal, its just people that use bitcoin in evil purposes. Now you can lock the thread, cause you made a "spam thread".
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TraderETH
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August 15, 2016, 03:31:46 PM |
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Fungtion of bitcoin depend on people who use it, because it can be used for bad something and it can be used for good something. I you must explain to your friend about it. Because i am sure your friend don't understand about bitcoin and another cryptos coins.
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MingLee
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August 15, 2016, 03:32:59 PM |
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Hey guys,
I want discuss about bitcoin. 2 weeks ago my friend asking me, 'What's your job now,i said trading bitcoin bro'
He surprised about my statement. I ask 'why?why you looks like that' He said,'it possible?money for criminal like that can be used for trading?'
I answer,'why not?that legal,thats money is depend ur purpose,buy or sell something,or you will donation for terrorist.
Any have same statement like me?
I haven't really been in any discussions where I'd have to go and refute why Bitcoin isn't a currency for criminals, but I have thought about it in the past and basically my thought process is quite similar to yours. Bitcoin is just another financial tool, and if criminals wanted to trade money and buy things they wouldn't have to use Bitcoin. Bitcoin just adds a bit more of a layer of anonymity to everything.
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August 15, 2016, 03:50:52 PM |
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any type of currency that could be used for criminal, but in this case depends on us who use it for any purpose.
so I do not think bitcoin is money to criminals because all the money could be used for the criminals.
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August 15, 2016, 03:52:46 PM |
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You can use bitcoin to buy candies and US dollars to buy drugs, that's up to you, the money doesn't spend itself.
I agree with that. Bitcoin cant count as a criminal case unless used it at bad things. For example, you bought some drugs that are illegal in your country, that will count as a crime. But if you use your bitcoin to buy a Legit Car, then that will not count as a crime. Yeah and I think the number of People using Bitcoins for criminal Things is limited. There are definitely more People using Fiat for criminal activities than Bitcoins.
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salsa321 (OP)
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August 15, 2016, 03:56:02 PM |
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In my mind,bitcoin is great system,my friend got negative issue about bitcoin from media,
9 month ago,he's read newspaper about money laundry and biggest cartel drug in my country use bitcoin for transaction and wash money,
How to make he believe if bitcoin is great currency and more effective than cash for internet transaction.give good opinion,i really love bitcoin,i have a plan to make bitcoin is great currency in my place
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August 15, 2016, 03:57:51 PM |
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you have to gave great explanations to your friend that not all bitcoin users are the criminals also bitcoin made not for criminal activities because much bitcoin users is good person but as long as it doesn't illegal into your country i think you must ignore your friend opinion
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August 15, 2016, 04:01:56 PM |
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Criminals use more dollars than bitcoins. The currency can't help being used by criminals.
How can you know that? if ever there was a survey that happened. Because I do not think anyone knows for sure criminals, more use dollars or bitcoin. But I think because the dollar is better known, the majority of criminal use this currency. IMO Its not about surveys, but the amount of money estimated in all worldwide criminal activites exceed Bitcoin capacity by a lot - the Bitcoin blockchain dont have such wealth transfers recorded even if Bitcoin was used just for criminal activites, which it is not of course. Probably majority of people (including criminals) going to use Bitcoin in future, simply because of Bitcoin better properties, but now its under 1%.
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August 15, 2016, 04:02:13 PM |
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Tell them that they are idiots since they don't know that most of the crime is being used under fiat currencies. Show them the data and then they cannot say that again: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.bitcoin.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F12%2Fchart.png&t=665&c=p5C9Ix9JG9pWLQ) In my place,bitcoin still 'grey' statement,goverment permitted bitcoin but they dissagree wuth bitcoin too
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August 15, 2016, 04:03:46 PM |
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if the third party that use bitcoin are retarded and do not invest in proper security, and have big hole all over the place, it's not bitcoin fault lol, the same for criminal that use it, bitcoin can be used by everyone just like cash, it's not bitcoin that choose to be used by crimnal it's just more convenient for them to use it, because of anonimity, but cash offer the same anonimity
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salsa321 (OP)
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August 15, 2016, 04:04:07 PM |
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Criminals use more dollars than bitcoins. The currency can't help being used by criminals.
How can you know that? if ever there was a survey that happened. Because I do not think anyone knows for sure criminals, more use dollars or bitcoin. But I think because the dollar is better known, the majority of criminal use this currency. IMO Its not about surveys, but the amount of money estimated in all worldwide criminal activites exceed Bitcoin capacity by a lot - the Bitcoin blockchain dont have such wealth transfers recorded even if Bitcoin was used just for criminal activites, which it is not of course. Probably majority of people (including criminals) going to use Bitcoin in future, simply because of Bitcoin better properties, but now its under 1%. I wann bring here too forum,but he said he not neccesarry about forum,because he said he's know about currency :/
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