chat with a scammer

[BTC guy]

here i am. any questions?

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[Surpbitcoin]

How much have you scammed?

[BTC guy]

alot, more than i can keep track of.

[Surpbitcoin]

I DONT TRUST YOU, YOUR A SCAMMER!

 


For real, How much?

[BTC guy]

i dont blame you. if i was in your shoes i wouldnt trust me either.

im not kidding. more than i can keep track of.

[Surpbitcoin]

Congrats! You're officially a scumbag!

[the joint]

here i am. any questions?

Do you like what you do?

Do you believe there is any wrongness in what you did/are doing?  Why or why not?

Do you feel any regret or remorse?  Why or why not?

Do you think you could make the same amount of money by not scamming?  Why or why not?

Do you like yourself?

[Littleshop]

i dont blame you. if i was in your shoes i wouldnt trust me either.

im not kidding. more than i can keep track of.

So you are lying when you say will pay everyone back just as you lied before.

[BTC guy]

there was a rush being able to successfully do what i do and get away with it. but i never felt good about it. i do not like what i did.

i was wrong. i used my talents for the wrong reasons.

i do feel regret. i am down right ashamed of my actions. i could be doing much better things with my life.

i could make millions scamming. but i could make just as much or more legitimately if i applied myself.

i like certain things about myself and i dislike certain things about myself.

i am not lying. i will pay back everybody.

[Littleshop]

there was a rush being able to successfully do what i do and get away with it. but i never felt good about it. i do not like what i did.

i was wrong. i used my talents for the wrong reasons.

i do feel regret. i am down right ashamed of my actions. i could be doing much better things with my life.

i could make millions scamming. but i could make just as much or more legitimately if i applied myself.

i like certain things about myself and i dislike certain things about myself.

i am not lying. i will pay back everybody.

I doubt it.  I doubt you are man enough. Here is my address.  Go head, start now:

14wv8dsBdqdbU8b7yNfdSZLbie1euyQoH1

[saddambitcoin]

tell us about the first time you scammed.  when was it, how did you do it, and what did you do with the money?

[BTC guy]

i have been PMing you about our transaction. if you piss me off or derail my threads you will be the first on my ignore list and that will be the end of it.

are we clear?

[Littleshop]

i have been PMing you about our transaction. if you piss me off or derail my threads you will be the first on my ignore list and that will be the end of it.

are we clear?

I gave you my address and you got pissy not me.  The address is there.  Are you gonna make good on your word to pay back or not?  You can solve this in five minutes. 

[BTC guy]

i dont remember the first time i scammed. it was probably on ebay after i realized i could collect paypal money and not send the goods. i use to spend the money as soon as it hit my account. i usually spend it on electronics and computer stuff. after so long of spending i started saving.

[saddambitcoin]

do you wish to commit suicide?

[BTC guy]

umm, i did not get pissy. i have been calm cool and polite. you are the one who is getting pissy because i dont feel you deserve a refund. please take this back to PM or your watch post.

[BTC guy]

i think about it alot. i dont know what i want yet.

[Foxpup]

Why do you scam people? Is it just for the money, or the satisfaction of outsmarting someone, or what?

[Littleshop]

umm, i did not get pissy. i have been calm cool and polite. you are the one who is getting pissy because i dont feel you deserve a refund. please take this back to PM or your watch post.

You said you will pay everyone back.  Or are going to continue to lie?

[BTC guy]

if you wish to chat with me about anything but your watches feel free to post and i will answer honestly. if you bring up your watches in this post again you know what will happen. i have already answered this question. if you ask me the same question over and over you know what will happen.

are we clear?

[saddambitcoin]

i'd like to see BTC guy tortured

[BTC guy]

i am already tortured. if you would like to find me and do something yourself i dare you.

[Littleshop]

if you wish to chat with me about anything but your watches feel free to post and i will answer honestly. if you bring up your watches in this post again you know what will happen. i have already answered this question. if you ask me the same question over and over you know what will happen.

are we clear?

What will happen?  Will you suddenly become not a scammer?  You offered to pay everyone back.  So when you gonna start?  I gave you my address.

And how the hell can this thread be 'derailed'  it is about scamming and you scammed me.  

[Bit_Happy]

BTC guy, are you scared about what people will do to you?

[Littleshop]

i am already tortured. if you would like to find me and do something yourself i dare you.

That is easy to do.

[saddambitcoin]

ok sorry i don't want to incite any violence really.  i wish there was a BTC suicide service, i'd pay to have someone come and shoot me in the head while i sleep sometime

[BTC guy]

i will put you on my ignore list. i will no longer respond to your posts or your PM's. all hope of a resolution will go out the window.

i will start paying people back when the people i burned post in my "fuck" thread.

if you ask me the same fucking questions over and over i will consider that derailed.

i do not feel i scammed you. please, take all your anger about our transaction out of this post and back to PM or your watch thread. last warning.

[Littleshop]

i will put you on my ignore list. i will no longer respond to your posts or your PM's. all hope of a resolution will go out the window.

i will start paying people back when the people i burned post in my "fuck" thread.

if you ask me the same fucking questions over and over i will consider that derailed.

i do not feel i scammed you. please, take all your anger about our transaction out of this post and back to PM or your watch thread. last warning.

So if I keep talking here, nothing will happen.  Same as what has happened before.  Nothing. 

[BTC guy]

i am not scared.

[BTC guy]

i want to work this out with you littleguy but i dont see how we are going to agree on terms. you are now on my ignore list. your only hope for a resolution is PM.

[Littleshop]

i want to work this out with you littleguy but i dont see how we are going to agree on terms. you are now on my ignore list. your only hope for a resolution is PM.

I offered terms.  You did not respond with any.

[dirtycat]

I say keep scamming.. we need people like you to keep us on our toes.

[BTC guy]

LOL - that is one way to look at it. there will be plenty more after me to learn from. im done.

[dirtycat]

LOL - that is one way to look at it. there will be plenty more after me to learn from. im done.

lame.. what you found god or something?

[Littleshop]

LOL - that is one way to look at it. there will be plenty more after me to learn from. im done.

Well show us the money.  I doubt it.  

[BTC guy]

i have been looking for god my whole life. i have not found him yet. but i am still looking and hoping.

[Mike Christ]

Have you ever been scammed?  And did you get angry, or did you chalk it up as experience?

[BTC guy]

this was a very good question. i have been scammed so many times i cant keep track. by friends and family. after so many times of being scammed i flipped. i saw how everybody was doing it so i stopped being the one who gets scammed and started being the one who does the scamming. after you get burned so many times it makes you less remorseful and it felt like i was getting even and getting my losses back. i did get very angry. the experiences made me a scammer.

[dirtycat]

awww poor guy.. give him a break it wasn't his fault.. he is just a product of his enviroment.

[BTC guy]

i take responsibility for the decisions i make but its very true. if i wasnt taken advantage of i would not have had the urge to do it.

[BTC guy]

have you ever heard that saying you live what you learn? there is alot of truth to that.

[BIGMERVE]

What do you do when you're not scamming? Do you have a full time job, or can you live off the scamming proceeds?

[bbit]

here i am. any questions?

What does it feel like to scam?

[MysteryMiner]

What you done to get scammer tag?

Can You honestly do bad things, like running drops for carded electronics and then forwarding them instead of keeping them?

[BTC guy]

What do you do when you're not scamming? Do you have a full time job, or can you live off the scamming proceeds?

smoke weed, play computer games, surf the web, ride my crotch rocket, look for honest ways to make a buck.
i do not have a job. probably never will.
i can live comfortable off scams.

What does it feel like to scam?

its exciting identifying your target and sweet talking them in to trusting you. and when you have their money you get a rush of twisted accomplishment.

What you done to get scammer tag?
Can You honestly do bad things, like running drops for carded electronics and then forwarding them instead of keeping them?

i scammed people for BFL singles and upgrades.
i have done bad things.

Why do you feel bad?
What does it feel like?

i feel bad cause im a good man who does bad things.
it doesnt feel good at all. if i was just pure bad i wouldnt care. but deep down i am good so im constantly fighting with myself.

[MysteryMiner]

You did not responded about your trustworthiness as a drop site. I probably never trust you without serious guarantees anyway. But I feel it is something like paradox. The hackers who cash out credit cards, make ATM skimmers, extort with DDoS and so on can be trusted with business. One exception are beginner script kiddies. One darknet hacking forum have very reputable escrow system that many I know uses. Also the Silk Road probably is good example by not running away with users coins.

Do You have Asperger Syndrome? Or suspect having that one?

[Sword Smith]

this was a very good question. i have been scammed so many times i cant keep track. by friends and family. after so many times of being scammed i flipped. i saw how everybody was doing it so i stopped being the one who gets scammed and started being the one who does the scamming. after you get burned so many times it makes you less remorseful and it felt like i was getting even and getting my losses back. i did get very angry. the experiences made me a scammer.

Very interesting description which confirms my theory of the perception of a "hive mind" among petty people. That revenge can be justified even though you are attacking someone else than the person that attacked you. Like it is you against the rest of the world. Only if you learn to accept that you are only one among many men and that you are no more worth than them, will you be able to rid yourself of these mental shackles.

[Sword Smith]

And now you seek some kind of forgiveness which you think you can achieve through faked repent and honesty without consequences. Only if you try to pay back your victims will you become a better man. Not by explaining yourself anonymously on an Internet forum.

[BTC guy]

Interesting. So you get satisfaction from scamming, but not pleasure?

well said. i agree with this.

You did not responded about your trustworthiness as a drop site. I probably never trust you without serious guarantees anyway. But I feel it is something like paradox. The hackers who cash out credit cards, make ATM skimmers, extort with DDoS and so on can be trusted with business. One exception are beginner script kiddies. One darknet hacking forum have very reputable escrow system that many I know uses. Also the Silk Road probably is good example by not running away with users coins.

Do You have Asperger Syndrome? Or suspect having that one?

ive done more honest business than bad business. i can be trusted if i know you or i feel like doing good business. if i dont know you or im feeling shady my trustworthiness is like flipping a coin.
i am bipolar and maybe a touch of something else.

Very interesting description which confirms my theory of the perception of a "hive mind" among petty people. That revenge can be justified even though you are attacking someone else than the person that attacked you. Like it is you against the rest of the world. Only if you learn to accept that you are only one among many men and that you are no more worth than them, will you be able to rid yourself of these mental shackles.

if one person does me wrong i take it like a man and move on. when the majority of people do me wrong it gets harder and harder not to get sucked in to the shit storm.

And now you seek some kind of forgiveness which you think you can achieve through faked repent and honesty without consequences. Only if you try to pay back your victims will you become a better man. Not by explaining yourself anonymously on an Internet forum.

i do not seek forgiveness. at this point i am not faking anything. if you doubt me sit back and wait for me to fix this. i have been in the process of becoming a better man for a long time. this is just one step of many that will help me be the man i want to be.

[Anon136]

awww poor guy.. give him a break it wasn't his fault.. he is just a product of his enviroment.

everyone is a product of his/her environment. If you believe this than everyone has a 100% valid excuse for EVERY bad thing that they have ever done. Even your brain is a product of your environment in the sense that the environment determined which sperm would connect with which egg =P.

[BTC guy]

everyone is a product of his/her environment. If you believe this than everyone has a 100% valid excuse for EVERY bad thing that they have ever done. Even your brain is a product of your environment in the sense that the environment determined which sperm would connect with which egg =P.

its not an excuse. its the truth. if your abused as a child you may become an abuser or you may become a protector. its not as simple as your environment or who you are as a person. its a combination of a bunch of things.

[MysteryMiner]

I become what I am because I like mental challenge, I like computers and I cannot imagine myself working in job I'm not interested in.

[Sword Smith]

if one person does me wrong i take it like a man and move on. when the majority of people do me wrong it gets harder and harder not to get sucked in to the shit storm.

I think you misunderstood me, I was not criticizing the need for revenge, I was merely stating that revenge should, if it is needed, be directed at the perpetrator and not directed at humanity or "otherness" in general.

[bobbit]

You've pled guilty, been convicted, now it's on to the punishment phase.

You dared people to try and find you? Why, are you that tough guy I hear about on the internet? Hell, just post your name and address.
If you truly were repentant, you'd sell your crotch rocket and other toys, and make restitution. Or at least send me a BFL single, even though you never scammed me I'm sure it would make you feel better.

[MysteryMiner]

sell your crotch rocket and other toys, and make restitution

For a moment I thought that "crotch rocket" is penis. If it can be sold then I probably got it wrong.

[BTC guy]

I become what I am because I like mental challenge, I like computers and I cannot imagine myself working in job I'm not interested in.

i like a challenge too. and computers. i dont work well under others. i work better myself. i have not yet found a job i am interested in.

I think you misunderstood me, I was not criticizing the need for revenge, I was merely stating that revenge should, if it is needed, be directed at the perpetrator and not directed at humanity or "otherness" in general.

for me its not about revenge. im just doing what everybody else is doing. the government scams. the people scam. my friends scam. my family scams. i know its not right but when everybody is doing it you dont feel as guilty. your just living life. dog eat dog. the strong survive the weak perish. adapt or perish. abuse or get abused. i agree, it should be directed at the people who did you wrong. but those people are long gone by the time you realize you have been taken advantage of. your options are keep getting kicked in your ass or learn from your mistakes and do what everybody else does.

You've pled guilty, been convicted, now it's on to the punishment phase.
You dared people to try and find you? Why, are you that tough guy I hear about on the internet? Hell, just post your name and address.
If you truly were repentant, you'd sell your crotch rocket and other toys, and make restitution. Or at least send me a BFL single, even though you never scammed me I'm sure it would make you feel better.

i have been punished long enough. time served.
i dont dare all of the internet to find me and do something about it. but i do dare those who threaten me to come and do something about it. i am not constantly a tough guy. but when threatened i can be. i already have plans for restitution. you will get nothing from me. 

[BIGMERVE]

sell your crotch rocket and other toys, and make restitution

For a moment I thought that "crotch rocket" is penis. If it can be sold then I probably got it wrong.

Crotch rockets are motorcycles like this also known as "rice burners"

[BTC guy]

this was my last one. 2002 CBR 1100. bought for $3700 sold for $5000 2 weeks later. this thing was fucking amazing.

[BTC guy]

Do you think of your problem as an addiction?

for me, it was not an addiction. i knew what i was doing. i could stop at any time.

[dirtycat]

Do you think of your problem as an addiction?

for me, it was not an addiction. i knew what i was doing. i could stop at any time.

that's what all addicts say.

[BTC guy]

That is so what an addict would say.

Are you married?  Have kids?  How do they tolerate your behavior.  I can tell you that my family has made my life way too difficult even though I personally never stole anything.

LOL - your probably right about that. but i am very self aware and in control of myself. it wasnt an addiction. it was pure greed. i didnt do it cause i needed to. i did it cause i wanted to.

never married. no kids.

[bobbit]

....... Or at least send me a BFL single, even though you never scammed me I'm sure it would make you feel better.

i...... you will get nothing from me. 

You do realize I was joking, right? Notice the smile. I don't want anything from you, nor do I ever want to actually meet you. You aren't anyone I would knowingly associate with. I dislike liars, thieves, and general assholes like you.

[BTC guy]

I don't want anything from you, nor do I ever want to actually meet you. You aren't anyone I would knowingly associate with. I dislike liars, thieves, and general assholes like you.

i understand. i am guilty. but you still dont know me. you only see the worst in me. deep down there is a good man who wants to come out.

[Sword Smith]

I don't want anything from you, nor do I ever want to actually meet you. You aren't anyone I would knowingly associate with. I dislike liars, thieves, and general assholes like you.

i understand. i am guilty. but you still dont know me. you only see the worst in me. deep down there is a good man who wants to come out.

http://youtu.be/GurL-EflShY

[MysteryMiner]

sell your crotch rocket and other toys, and make restitution

For a moment I thought that "crotch rocket" is penis. If it can be sold then I probably got it wrong.

Crotch rockets are motorcycles like this also known as "rice burners"

Then I really got it wrong I thought that

smoke weed, play computer games, surf the web, ride my crotch rocket,

riding crotch rocket is euphemism for masturbating. I thought that BTC guy really got balls to admit he is masturbating while not smoking weed or scamming other people

I'm also not addicted to my pastime. It is too interesting, I can do it any time I wish and as much as I wish. Sit at computer solving problem for days until it is solved or something better comes out, or take a break and spend week playing computer games. And it gets some money. Not much but still better than any other job in terms of time spent working/money earned. No one needs a person who can secure corporative network, train employees on safe computer usage practices or maintain IT infrastructure. And probably I would not want such job anymore.

My Dad was a scammer.  He died on the day he was murdered

What a coincidence, died on the same day he got murdered! Scamming is dangerous business, you never know what the person you scammed is capable when pissed off. Scamming in real word requires some sort of physical interaction, that is where the anonymity is lost.

[BIGMERVE]

How old are you? Do any of you IRL friend/family know you scam? If they don't how do you explain the money?

[BTC guy]

Deep down there is a very old overweight man who will come out and then die.  And that's if you are lucky.

nope, i am young and healthy. the only thing you are right about is i will die. and i am not afraid.

The how do you justify the risk of stealing?  You admit it makes you feel awful.  Do you need the money?  Do you realize the legal expenses will wipe you out.  Despite my Dad being occasionally rich, he died broke.  Over time I have out earned him by a great deal.

i dont know. first, if its done to me i dont feel as guilty. its the way of the world.

second, i dont see it as stealing. stealing is taking something that doesnt belong to you without permission. i dont steal. i scam. its different. i didnt take anything. it was given to me. i just failed to live up to my end of the deal. like defaulting on a loan.

i no longer need the money. this is a big part of the reason why i no longer scam.

i can handle the legal expenses, if caught.

How old are you? Do any of you IRL friend/family know you scam? If they don't how do you explain the money?

i am in my 20's. my so called "friends" are scammers. they know. so does my family. i dont hide it.

[Mike Christ]

Do you officially go by "scammer", or are you more partial to "con artist"?  Or perhaps "scam artist"?

[BTC guy]

its all the same to me. i never heard scam artist. i like that one. i consider myself an opportunist more than anything.

[Mike Christ]

One more question:  Does the following phrase match up with you?  "Some people deserve to be scammed, if they're naive enough to fall for it."

[bobbit]

I don't want anything from you, nor do I ever want to actually meet you. You aren't anyone I would knowingly associate with. I dislike liars, thieves, and general assholes like you.

i understand. i am guilty. but you still dont know me. you only see the worst in me. deep down there is a good man who wants to come out.

Well set him free, then. People change, I understand that. Actions speak louder than words, so do it, not talk about it I want to see people posting that you made it right with them.

[BTC guy]

One more question:  Does the following phrase match up with you?  "Some people deserve to be scammed, if they're naive enough to fall for it."

i dont think anybody deserves to be scammed. but if they fall for it they are certainly naive.

Well set him free, then. People change, I understand that. Actions speak louder than words, so do it, not talk about it I want to see people posting that you made it right with them.

most people dont change. but i am trying. i have established communication with the people i scammed. that is the first step. i have offered them the goods i promised or a refund. i am waiting for a response. you WILL see everybody except littleshop say i made it right.

[bbit]

Do your parents, friends ( if you have any ) know what a scamming douchbag loser you are?

[Phinnaeus Gage]

its all the same to me. i never heard scam artist. i like that one. i consider myself an opportunist more than anything.

I guess it boils down to education. I bet you never heard of the term flim-flam either.

[BTC guy]

Do your parents, friends ( if you have any ) know what a scamming douchbag loser you are?

this question was already asked and answered asshole. call me a d-bag loser if you want i got more money than you will ever have. go work your BS 9-5 and pay your taxes you fucking idiot. im gonna live large and comfortable.

[BTC guy]

i will no longer be responding to this thread. matthew is now my priority.

[Bitzing]

Interesting, all the forums I'm apart of and this is truly a first. I see you said you will no longer respond to this thread, however I can't hold back,

How do you justify what you do?

Do you ever think what your mother would say if she knew all the wrong you've done online?

[BTC guy]

i was ripped off too many times. the world is cruel and not fair. thats all i need.

my mother abandoned me and my family. she left the country.

[BTC guy]

few more things before i stop talking......

-the majority of what i have was made honestly. candies is an example. ive done more honest business than bad business.
-i have not done ebay/paypal scams in years.
-the last time i scammed was on my BTC guy account. i have not scammed since and i dont ever plan to scam again.
-i never planned to scam on my BTC guy account. i just wanted to test the water and see what kind of offers i get. when people started throwing large numbers at me i flipped.
-the two guys the forum members approached are not me. they are pissed that i brought attention to them and they have been riding me to take care of it.
-i am not retropcdos. i just know him.
-i plan to pay back everybody i burned on this forum.
-i plan to donate alot of money to make up for the bad decisions i have made.
-i plan to do alot of community service to make up for the bad decisions i have made.
-i want to get in to community service and non-profit work for a living.
-i really am sorry for what i have done. it will never happen again for any amount of money.
-i want to be a good man and do good things more than anything.

[momagic]

few more things before i stop talking......

-the majority of what i have was made honestly. candies is an example. ive done more honest business than bad business.
-i have not done ebay/paypal scams in years.
-the last time i scammed was on my BTC guy account. i have not scammed since and i dont ever plan to scam again.
-i never planned to scam on my BTC guy account. i just wanted to test the water and see what kind of offers i get. when people started throwing large numbers at me i flipped.
-the two guys the forum members approached are not me. they are pissed that i brought attention to them and they have been riding me to take care of it.
-i am not retropcdos. i just know him.
-i plan to pay back everybody i burned on this forum.
-i plan to donate alot of money to make up for the bad decisions i have made.
-i plan to do alot of community service to make up for the bad decisions i have made.
-i want to get in to community service and non-profit work for a living.
-i really am sorry for what i have done. it will never happen again for any amount of money.
-i want to be a good man and do good things more than anything.

Good man.

Repent.

[pinger]

What is your real name and address?? 

[Vandroiy]

Interesting, all the forums I'm apart of and this is truly a first. I see you said you will no longer respond to this thread, however I can't hold back,

How do you justify what you do?

Do you ever think what your mother would say if she knew all the wrong you've done online?

i was ripped off too many times. the world is cruel and not fair. thats all i need.

my mother abandoned me and my family. she left the country.

You are aware that is nonsensical? If the world was filled by people like you and someone started the lies and theft, the world becomes cruel and unfair because of exactly your kind.

If one kid attacks another in the schoolyard, "that third kid started it" won't go well as an excuse. It would only sound sensible if it's done against the person who wronged you in the first place.

[BTC guy]

its a vicious circle. i am aware. i recently watched a movie about gandhi. he said an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. i will not forget his words. i can not change the whole world but i can and will change me.

[MysteryMiner]

Are not You Dank?

[BTC guy]

i am not dank or newdude or anybody else. i have already given you all my other user ID's.

i am making an effort. shut the fuck up and let me handle this.

[BTC guy]

i see you deleted your smart ass post before i posted mine. thank you.

[BTC guy]

or was that staff who deleted it? either way, thank you. i am trying to right my wrongs. i dont need no smart fucking comments when im trying to do the right thing.

[CharlesPonzi]

I hope someone else makes a thread called "how I scammed btcguy" so everyone can point and laugh.

[BTC guy]

I hope someone else makes a thread called "how I scammed btcguy" so everyone can point and laugh.

i already got scammed on here for a ps3 jagoff. does that make you feel better?

[Littleshop]

i am not dank or newdude or anybody else. i have already given you all my other user ID's.

i am making an effort. shut the fuck up and let me handle this.

Lying again.   4 id's at least.

[BTC guy]

i dont know what you said littleguy but you still get a big FUCK YOU from me.

[Littleshop]

i am not dank or newdude or anybody else. i have already given you all my other user ID's.

i am making an effort. shut the fuck up and let me handle this.

Is there a list of BTC guy's alts?  Is CANDIES included?

rockso, trader joe, ninja, and candies.

[BTC guy]

i still dont know what you said but i will tell you again - FUCK YOU

[Rampion]

Don't you ever feel bad for the people you scam? Don't you feel their pain when you imagine them realizing you have stolen their hard earned money? Do you even know what empathy is?

Freakin sociopaths...

[BTC guy]

no more information from me.

[lightlord]

Do you even know what empathy is?

Freakin sociopaths...

Unfortunately they can't understand empathy Because there is a structure damage in the brain, maybe in 100 years when brain science advances far enough to fix these damage.




Wire between Amygdala and PFC Is physically damaged, or cut, meaning they two don't
communicate, in theory any induced head trauma, or some genetic disorders, or any
can cause this. Its like missing a leg.



Are Psychopaths “Brain Damaged”?

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2011/12/06/are-psychopaths-like-hannibal-lecter-brain-damaged/

[bb113]

From the paper:


I should have also added an arrow pointing to the psychopath outlier who will be naturally selected for if this technology becomes commonly used to profile people.

Also, do those error bars look like they describe the spread and distribution of the data? That is why people should never trust a chart that only shows averages and error bars but doesn't show the datapoints.

[johnniewalker]

i could make millions scamming. but i could make just as much or more legitimately if i applied myself.

Don't give yourself so much credit.

[Wardrick]

Little weasel, you should of been drowned at birth.

[saddambitcoin]

i'm in chicago, is there a bounty for this guy?  accepting LTC and BTC

[BTC guy]

i'm in chicago, is there a bounty for this guy?  accepting LTC and BTC

let me give you some advice. dont fuck with me. i am irrational and i make bad decisions. if you or anybody comes within arms length of me it wont end well.

[enco]

Questions:
- Are/were you receiving psychological treatment or do you plan on getting treatment?
- Assuming you are honest about wanting to stop scamming people: When you say you want to reimburse all the people you burned, do you think that you'll eventually live up to it or do you reckon this could be coming from an urge to tell people what they want to hear? Like some kind of scamming automatism?
- As for your personal environment having a negative impact on you, have you ever tried changing your environment? Do you think you could ever start over somewhere else and successfully establish "normal" personal relationships based on mutual trust and without the feeling that you're being taken advantage of all the time?

(Sorry if my wording is a bit awkward, but English is not my first language.)

[BTC guy]

i am not receiving treatment and i dont plan to.
i may or may not live up to it. i was ready to do it but now my mind is set on collecting from matthew. if he takes care of me i will take care of my buyers.
i have not tried changing my environment. i do plan to leave the country and travel. if i find a nice spot with nice people i can probably reset myself.

[John (John K.)]

My public offer to BTC guy to resolve this if he intends to do what he says: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108504.msg1966634#msg1966634

[BTC guy]

have matthew agree to a deal with me. if he does i will start paying people back. simple huh?

[Vod]

have matthew agree to a deal with me. if he does i will start paying people back. simple huh?

Trust a scammer to not scam?   

[mc_lovin]

didn't I buy a motherboard off you?  I guess some percentage of your deals were legit.  thanks BTC Guy!  lol.  pretty random to see you going off the deep end like this. 

[BTC guy]

yes you did. ive done more good trades than bad ones. i normally do good business. i wasnt planning on scamming here. people just kept throwing large numbers at me for these singles and i gave in to greed.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66338.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118366.msg1318757#msg1318757

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118892.msg1322640#msg1322640

[Littleshop]

have matthew agree to a deal with me. if he does i will start paying people back. simple huh?

He has agreed to deal with you if you keep your word and pay everyone back first.  You already agreed to pay everyone back.  You just have not done it.  End of story. 

Quit trolling these forums and man up. 

[Wardrick]

1) Do you feel like a loser for lying and stealing from so many people?

2) Are you a sociopath? From your posts it looks like you get enjoyment out of being in control of people

3) Since Bi-Polar and Greed are really shitty excuses to scam somebody. Was there any other motive?

4) Do you believe in Karma?

[BTC guy]

i will not pay everybody back until an agreement has been reached. when we have a deal and make it public i will pay back. im not gonna budge.

i dont steal. i dont feel like a loser for scamming or lying. but i do feel regret.

i looked up the definition of sociopath. i do have a personality disorder and antisocial attitude. but i also have a conscience and remorse. so no, i am not.

bipolar and greed is not an excuse. its a fact. my only other motive is being scammed myself. and needing money to survive.

i never believed in karma. but the older i become the more i believe.

[BadBear]

i dont steal.

[BTC guy]

stealing is taking something that doesnt belong to you without permission. i didnt take anything. it was given to me.

[BadBear]

stealing is taking something that doesnt belong to you without permission. i didnt take anything. it was given to me.

If there's one thing that I've learned on this forum, it's that irrational people can rationalize anything.

[BTC guy]

its just as distasteful. but there is a difference.

[e521]

how old are you? You can lie

8-10
11
12
13
14
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16-20
21-60
61+

[MouseTrap]

stealing is taking something that doesnt belong to you without permission. i didnt take anything. it was given to me.

If there's one thing that I've learned on this forum, it's that irrational people can rationalize anything.

If we haked your banking account and sent money to yourself that would be stealing. You people ship out money without even asking a name. Also I think pretty much everything he said in this thread was the truth.

[flavius]

here i am. any questions?

Do you like what you do?

Do you believe there is any wrongness in what you did/are doing?  Why or why not?

Do you feel any regret or remorse?  Why or why not?

Do you think you could make the same amount of money by not scamming?  Why or why not?

Do you like yourself?

1. I like the idea of free money, so yes.
2. Wrongness doesn't exist. If you let yourself overthink it and are emotionally unstable then bitcoin isn't for you, let alone scamming.
3. Wish I had done it mor, could use the funds.
4. Impossible unless I am hired by Bill Gates.

[m3ta]

I DONT TRUST YOU, YOUR A SCAMMER!

 


For real, How much?

youryoure.com < Any and all illiterates are welcome to read it.

[BTC guy]

im in my 20's.

everything i said in this thread was the truth.

1) i do like free money
2) "wrongness doesnt exist." this is a tricky one. some things are right or wrong. but who determines what is right or wrong?
3) i dont wish i did it more. i dont need the funds.
4) i dont need bill gates to like myself.

[dank]

There's no right or wrongs, only wise and unwise, creation and destruction.

[BadBear]

Scammers coming out of the woodwork.

[BTC guy]

hey dank, explain to me, how can there be no right or wrong?

[MouseTrap]

hey dank, explain to me, how can there be no right or wrong?

Prob means there is no right or wrong, just popular belief.

[BTC guy]

ya, i just wanted to hear his version. should be interesting to see me and dank chat.

[Wardrick]

i will not pay everybody back until an agreement has been reached. when we have a deal and make it public i will pay back. im not gonna budge.

i dont steal. i dont feel like a loser for scamming or lying. but i do feel regret.

i looked up the definition of sociopath. i do have a personality disorder and antisocial attitude. but i also have a conscience and remorse. so no, i am not.

bipolar and greed is not an excuse. its a fact. my only other motive is being scammed myself. and needing money to survive.

i never believed in karma. but the older i become the more i believe.

1) Why can't you just give them there money back instead of pro-longing it, after all it is their money. Why are you making them wait until an agreement is reached?

2) Why do you say that taking money from others and not giving it back isn't stealing?

3) If you say Bipolar and Greed isn't an excuse. Why do I not have this problem you have? I have both, mine was in the form of a gambling addiction.

4) If there is an afterlife, what do you expect to happen to you if you don't do good on all the people's lives you've made miserable?

[flavius]

im in my 20's.

everything i said in this thread was the truth.

1) i do like free money
2) "wrongness doesnt exist." this is a tricky one. some things are right or wrong. but who determines what is right or wrong?
3) i dont wish i did it more. i dont need the funds.
4) i dont need bill gates to like myself.

If you commit a "wrong-doing" yet have no remorse for it, what is the difference vs. if you hadn't committed said act?

You always can use more money, nobody who is rich becomes rich without greed.

I don't scam people over the internet but I am a professional con man irl and offer many services on the internet that incorporate bitcoin.

[smoothie]

You should troll Inaba into getting a scammer tag if he doesnt pay his 1000BTC bet with user Runeks.

[BTC guy]

1) Why can't you just give them there money back instead of pro-longing it, after all it is their money. Why are you making them wait until an agreement is reached?
2) Why do you say that taking money from others and not giving it back isn't stealing?
3) If you say Bipolar and Greed isn't an excuse. Why do I not have this problem you have? I have both, mine was in the form of a gambling addiction.
4) If there is an afterlife, what do you expect to happen to you if you don't do good on all the people's lives you've made miserable?

1) its not their money any more. its mine now. i was gonna pay back with no conditions. when i noticed matthew was back and paying people i wanted mine too. im waiting until an agreement is made cause i dont wanna hand over my coins and then matthew tells me im not getting mine or he will only give me 0.5 BTC.
2) look up definition of steal and scam. its different. stealing is taking without permission. scamming is convincing somebody to give it to you. if BFL doesnt deliver they didnt steal from you. they scammed you.
3) everybody has their own personality quirks. some people smoke others drink. some like to be on top some like it from behind. we are all very different.
4) if there is an after life im not sure what will happen to me. i make bad decisions but deep down i have a good heart. its hard for you to see or believe but i do care about people. i dont wish bad things for anybody. not even hitler or terrorists. i have nothing but good wishes for everybody. i hope whats inside me outweighs my actions. i also hope one day my actions reflect whats inside me.

If you commit a "wrong-doing" yet have no remorse for it, what is the difference vs. if you hadn't committed said act?
You always can use more money, nobody who is rich becomes rich without greed.
I don't scam people over the internet but I am a professional con man irl and offer many services on the internet that incorporate bitcoin.

i have remorse and regret for my actions.
i can use more money. but i dont really need it.
how are you a professional conman?

You should troll Inaba into getting a scammer tag if he doesnt pay his 1000BTC bet with user Runeks.

i dont care about inaba or runeks. although, i would like to see 1000 coins go to charity. that would be awesome.

[solidshotnosh]

Are you autistic?

After reading through your posts you seem to have all the symptoms.

[Wardrick]

Are you autistic?

He fits the category perfectly. I was always told never to make fun of someone for their disabilities though, so it's best not to make fun of him.


There's two kinds of people in this world that I hate

Liars and thieves.

Congratulations, you managed to nail 2 birds with one stone.

[solidshotnosh]

Are you autistic?

He fits the category perfectly. I was always told never to make fun of someone for their disabilities though, so it's best not to make fun of him.


There's two kinds of people in this world that I hate

Liars and thieves.

Congratulations, you managed to nail 2 birds with one stone.

I'm not making fun of him, I'd still throw him in jail for his blatant display

[uMMcQxCWELNzkt]

I hope one day you are identified so I can engrave scammer onto your grave before I piss on it. 

[Rassah]

Question: Why do you think people should give you their time and attention, if they already know you are a scammer?

[BTC guy]

i looked up autism. i do have issues with social interaction and occasional repetitive behavior. but i have no issues with communication. my communication skills are excellent. i dont think im autistic.

i will admit i am a liar. i will lie to people i dont know. but not to friends or family. i dont consider myself a thief at all. i havent stolen anything since i was a teenager. and i probably never will again.

i will never have a grave. i am an organ doner. whats left of my body will be donated to science or medicine.

i dont think anybody should give me time or attention. im not asking for attention. im just chatting. if you post i will respond. if you dont i will go away. im also hoping matthew will work out a deal with me. but he is stubborn like me. it will probably never happen.

[flavius]

you really are a pathetic scammer, not even a real criminal

you should probably just kill yourself

[BTC guy]

nope, im not a real criminal. im just another guy.

[evanesce]

How are so many people so gullible to get scammed?

[TGJJ]

Why can't you just give some evidence other than your word that you will pay us back?

[BTC guy]

i told matthew i would pay you first to show i was serious about doing this. he told me thats not enough pay everybody in full then he will talk to me. he and john took my user name off the list of people he owes. he has no plans to pay me. it doesnt look like there will be any progress.

[Littleshop]

i told matthew i would pay you first to show i was serious about doing this. he told me thats not enough pay everybody in full then he will talk to me. he and john took my user name off the list of people he owes. he has no plans to pay me. it doesnt look like there will be any progress.

Because you are a liar. 

[cygnusxi]

you managed to take advantage of a human imperfection called trust. doesnt really take any skill. why r you bragging about it.

my 4 year old sister can trick people too.

[cygnusxi]

I don't want anything from you, nor do I ever want to actually meet you. You aren't anyone I would knowingly associate with. I dislike liars, thieves, and general assholes like you.

i understand. i am guilty. but you still dont know me. you only see the worst in me. deep down there is a good man who wants to come out.

yet you say you will continue to live comfortably off scams.

I wonder when the fbi will start to look for bitcoin scammers. that picture of his bike and the background and the box that says clothes and shoes might enough to track him down, looking up the model of bike, registered to person of certain age, narrow down places to look, repost that picture on peoples facebook pages in possible cities that match, my gf is really good and knowing what state / area a picture is from just by the way the buildings are made... ill have to ask if it looks familiar to her.... maybe you should move now and hide under a rock before someone you scammed tracks you down.

edit, i can almost make out what the other building says in the background...
edit, i think the fbi will track down anyone who has stolen any item if the value is over a certain amount... with btc at 116$ right now, its probably enough to get them after you....
edit, time to move to a country without internet

[flavius]

Why do people like the above poster act like "scamming" and "fraud" aren't everyday parts of life? You work a 9 to 5 at a desk, I work a 9 to 5 taking other people's money. There isn't any difference, it's a career choice, it's a job and work. Yes of course people are living comfortably off scams and bitcoin, that is HALF of the basis of bitcoin. Have you ever been to the darknet websites where thousands of identities are sold everyday, or counterfeit goods, or bank account information?

You really think people go out and buy bitcoins so they can send them to their friends overseas? Do you really think people care that much, to go invest in something a bunch of 25 year old males are saying is the future? It's a currency RAN by criminals and anonymity. Between Silk Road, BMR, and the hundreds of darknet websites, there are millions of dollars traded everyday.

Bitcoin isn't the new solution to paypal, it's not you go on the bitcoin website and you see two healthy people smiling saying "I got paid for my items!", that is what ebay and paypal are for. You know there is a reason why on many currency exchanges they don't give a shit to verify your identity.

I am just slightly annoyed of people trying to legitimize something that has no place in the real world. You can't get the average man to buy a bitcoin, there is nothing wrong with his dollars in his mind. There are people out there preaching bitcoins because they have made a ton of money with it. The price can hit a million dollars a coin, it really doesn't even matter. Whatever the price is, crime is still what makes the clock tick. Bitcoin is crime, crime is bitcoin.

If have never been on these websites and interacted with the communities there, your opinion is useless.

[bighecks]

Who and why did you scam?

[TGJJ]

Seeing as he has done nothing again, I think it is worth posting this again.

The information is old, so he may have moved or shaved or something. But I am sure it could be used to bring him to justice.

My offer still stands. Pay back the coins and I will delete this post and all others like it.

OK, I have done a lot of independent research and I am 99% confident in what I am about to disclose. I have each bit of information confirmed by a multitude of people.

I know BTC guy's name, address, phone number(s), transaction history, eBay ID, Dwolla Account and more.

As I know that BTC guy will read this, I will address it as a public message to him from here on.

I know that you will be reading this, because you have contacted admins pretending you are innocent, when you, Dean/Dan Munt/Munet, are a scammer and trying to pretend that you are not.

I have enough evidence to get you sentenced to several years in prison and will be filling reports in both the USA and the UK. I will also provide information to other victims of your crimes who will be able to press charges in their countries.

You only have one choice other than me reporting you to every single agency I possibly can and that is to return the coins. If the coins are not in my account within 24 hours from now, 2 PM Chicago time, I will contact every single police agency possible for your actions. I will also do my best to file a joint claim in Illinois and sue you with the other people you have scammed. This means that not only will you serve hard time, you will also have to give the money back and will most likely have to pay damages and legal fees. I may not be able to sue the money back, but I am sure that you will face time. This can all be avoided by just returning the coins.

If you no longer have the coins, we can arrange a deal where you can pay us back in cash in a public location for the exact monetary value of the coins. If you have the coins you can send mine back here 1BdtwdXquSQLF4hpDVKBDFzZHHZ61VAACd. I would also be prepared to distribute the other people’s coins if necessary.

To prove I am serious, I am posting your confirmed address here.

Dean Munt/Dan Munt/Dean Munet or whatever alias you are going by today
2449 N 72nd Court
Elm Wood Park Ill 60707-2018

This is a photo you:



If you do return the coins, I will remove all the information I have posted on the forum and also delete all the data I have on you on my computer, other victims have agreed to do the same.
You seriously picked the wrong guy to mess with, I will do everything legally possible to bestow justice upon you. You better return these coins.

[Rampion]

Man, look at the guy. Are you sure that it's him? He looks like a homeless. I thought he was scamming just because he is a sociopath, but it looks like he really needs the money. BTCguy: if that guy is really you, I'm willing to donate.

[TGJJ]

Man, look at the guy. Are you sure that it's him? He looks like a homeless. I thought he was scamming just because he is a sociopath, but it looks like he really needs the money. BTCguy: if that guy is really you, I'm willing to donate.

Don't think he needs them! He scammed well over a thousand!

i dont need or want your coins matthew. i just want to stick it in your ass. its not about the money. its the principle. if you want to be a man be a man or shut the fuck up and piss off.

[uMMcQxCWELNzkt]

Why do people like the above poster act like "scamming" and "fraud" aren't everyday parts of life? You work a 9 to 5 at a desk, I work a 9 to 5 taking other people's money. There isn't any difference, it's a career choice, it's a job and work. Yes of course people are living comfortably off scams and bitcoin, that is HALF of the basis of bitcoin. Have you ever been to the darknet websites where thousands of identities are sold everyday, or counterfeit goods, or bank account information?

You really think people go out and buy bitcoins so they can send them to their friends overseas? Do you really think people care that much, to go invest in something a bunch of 25 year old males are saying is the future? It's a currency RAN by criminals and anonymity. Between Silk Road, BMR, and the hundreds of darknet websites, there are millions of dollars traded everyday.

Bitcoin isn't the new solution to paypal, it's not you go on the bitcoin website and you see two healthy people smiling saying "I got paid for my items!", that is what ebay and paypal are for. You know there is a reason why on many currency exchanges they don't give a shit to verify your identity.

I am just slightly annoyed of people trying to legitimize something that has no place in the real world. You can't get the average man to buy a bitcoin, there is nothing wrong with his dollars in his mind. There are people out there preaching bitcoins because they have made a ton of money with it. The price can hit a million dollars a coin, it really doesn't even matter. Whatever the price is, crime is still what makes the clock tick. Bitcoin is crime, crime is bitcoin.

If have never been on these websites and interacted with the communities there, your opinion is useless.

Flavius is your 9 to 5 scamming people?

[flavius]

Jesus christ he scammed over $100,000, from users on this forum? How is that even possible? I thought we were talking like $500-1000.

[QuestionAuthority]

Jesus christ he scammed over $100,000, from users on this forum? How is that even possible? I thought we were talking like $500-1000.

Oh no, you can scam a buttload of money from the fools on this forum. Just talk to Trendon Shavers or any of the hundreds of people who have scammed here.

[Vod]

That is one ugly guy. 

[Jobe7]

i feel bad cause im a good man who does bad things.

A good man that does bad things is a bad man. No matter what way you turn the mirror.

I feel for you that you got scammed so many times and lashed out, I've also been scammed numerous times, and have wanted to lash out. But I havn't.

But a bad man can become a good man again, given time, but the scars of the bad things will stay with you forever.

[Jobe7]

To the scammers,

If (as many believe) bitcoin increases in value by a substantial amount. The many people that you have scammed out there will have the finance to not only track you down, but to either pay you a visit, or more likely, pay someone else to pay you a visit. And that such a visit would involve much violence and through torture taking of your wealth, or destruction of everything you have/own/love. That your friends and family (if you have any, or ever get any) will very likely be in danger because of your actions. And because there are now (in the future) a LOT of wealthy people who want get revenge on you.

And if for some reason, they can't track you down with their wealth, then this would very likely be because you've had to change names/identity/state/county/country numerous times and will have to continue to run unless you want you and yours to be kneecapped.

People who get scammed are generally 'innocent' people. But I'm sure their wealth could find not so 'innocent' people who take payment to cause harm others (very easy to find tbh).

So, aren't you at worried for your safety? and those around you? or is it a case of live fast and probably suffer a lot and die fast?

Thankfully I don't get scammed anymore, because I've lost faith in most people thanks to scammers and retards, but I find that a real shame that I lost that 'innocent trust', and that others have lost it also, its a blight on humanity and the caring nature that people SHOULD have. I wonder if in the future people would be interested in a combined fund to hunt down bitcoin scammers.

Remember, its not about the money, its about the justice revenge.

[TGJJ]

To the scammers,

If (as many believe) bitcoin increases in value by a substantial amount. The many people that you have scammed out there will have the finance to not only track you down, but to either pay you a visit, or more likely, pay someone else to pay you a visit. And that such a visit would involve much violence and through torture taking of your wealth, or destruction of everything you have/own/love. That your friends and family (if you have any, or ever get any) will very likely be in danger because of your actions. And because there are now (in the future) a LOT of wealthy people who want get revenge on you.

And if for some reason, they can't track you down with their wealth, then this would very likely be because you've had to change names/identity/state/county/country numerous times and will have to continue to run unless you want you and yours to be kneecapped.

People who get scammed are generally 'innocent' people. But I'm sure their wealth could find not so 'innocent' people who take payment to cause harm others (very easy to find tbh).

So, aren't you at worried for your safety? and those around you? or is it a case of live fast and probably suffer a lot and die fast?

Thankfully I don't get scammed anymore, because I've lost faith in most people thanks to scammers and retards, but I find that a real shame that I lost that 'innocent trust', and that others have lost it also, its a blight on humanity and the caring nature that people SHOULD have. I wonder if in the future people would be interested in a combined fund to hunt down bitcoin scammers.

Remember, its not about the money, its about the justice revenge.

While I don't wish violence upon anybody, there are some I don't wish violence upon more than others.

Also, I am sure that someone in the USA with the know how could report BTC Guy to the police who whoever cares. If I were to ever get my coins back, I would be happy to contribute to a reward, others have said similar things.