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August 19, 2016, 06:11:40 AM
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Your lottery not like the others.Good design attract customer and the prize must be escrow to the trusted one to get more and more players to play in that site.That my opinion.
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August 19, 2016, 06:19:20 AM
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I'm realy can't found for how this lottery will be running, where the Verification? are you sure this site will be fix and ready for runing. i guess there are still many shortcomings, but i realy interesting for game a lottery.

I'll do a better design.
The verification is after the first drawing in a live stream. The winner need post in this topic and I'll link it to the lottery history.

But you're not a trusted member yet on this forum. Why does anyone need to trust you and invest money in your site? Because your site design is not so professional may be due to lack of funds and knowledge. So it is difficult for anyone to invest money on some unknown sites. Hopefully we will get more details on how your going to pick the winner each week.
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August 19, 2016, 06:29:16 AM
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I'm realy can't found for how this lottery will be running, where the Verification? are you sure this site will be fix and ready for runing. i guess there are still many shortcomings, but i realy interesting for game a lottery.

I'll do a better design.
The verification is after the first drawing in a live stream. The winner need post in this topic and I'll link it to the lottery history.

But you're not a trusted member yet on this forum. Why does anyone need to trust you and invest money in your site? Because your site design is not so professional may be due to lack of funds and knowledge. So it is difficult for anyone to invest money on some unknown sites. Hopefully we will get more details on how your going to pick the winner each week.

I'm not a trusted member, but I valorize my image here. I have this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1569621.msg15753950#msg15753950 where I earn money with my works and a few people liked. No one need trust, this is a choice. My site isn't have this design due to a lack of funds, and less a lack of knowledge. I'm talking for the "40th once", this site I've started yesterday and I'm working in the design. Yes, I'll give more details in site about the drawings that will pick a player.
I will do live streamming. If 20 donators (2 digits), I'll pick 2 papers with numbers. If the result is 18, the address of 18th transaction for the weekly address will receive the prize after post the testimonial of his win in this topic.
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August 19, 2016, 06:36:53 AM
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I'm realy can't found for how this lottery will be running, where the Verification? are you sure this site will be fix and ready for runing. i guess there are still many shortcomings, but i realy interesting for game a lottery.

I'll do a better design.
The verification is after the first drawing in a live stream. The winner need post in this topic and I'll link it to the lottery history.

But you're not a trusted member yet on this forum. Why does anyone need to trust you and invest money in your site? Because your site design is not so professional may be due to lack of funds and knowledge. So it is difficult for anyone to invest money on some unknown sites. Hopefully we will get more details on how your going to pick the winner each week.

I'm not a trusted member, but I valorize my image here. I have this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1569621.msg15753950#msg15753950 where I earn money with my works and a few people liked. No one need trust, this is a choice. My site isn't have this design due to a lack of funds, and less a lack of knowledge. I'm talking for the "40th once", this site I've started yesterday and I'm working in the design. Yes, I'll give more details in site about the drawings that will pick a player.
I will do live streamming. If 20 donators (2 digits), I'll pick 2 papers with numbers. If the result is 18, the address of 18th transaction for the weekly address will receive the prize after post the testimonial of his win in this topic.

One thing you should remember before publishing your work online, don't ever make it online until you think it is complete. For the visitor, it doesn't matter whether you published yesterday or one year before as long as the content is missing they will highlight the issues. That is not the excuse for these issues. If you're in a hurry to earn money, then you can't gain member trust with this design.
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August 19, 2016, 06:38:55 AM
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I'm realy can't found for how this lottery will be running, where the Verification? are you sure this site will be fix and ready for runing. i guess there are still many shortcomings, but i realy interesting for game a lottery.

I'll do a better design.
The verification is after the first drawing in a live stream. The winner need post in this topic and I'll link it to the lottery history.

But you're not a trusted member yet on this forum. Why does anyone need to trust you and invest money in your site? Because your site design is not so professional may be due to lack of funds and knowledge. So it is difficult for anyone to invest money on some unknown sites. Hopefully we will get more details on how your going to pick the winner each week.

I'm not a trusted member, but I valorize my image here. I have this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1569621.msg15753950#msg15753950 where I earn money with my works and a few people liked. No one need trust, this is a choice. My site isn't have this design due to a lack of funds, and less a lack of knowledge. I'm talking for the "40th once", this site I've started yesterday and I'm working in the design. Yes, I'll give more details in site about the drawings that will pick a player.
I will do live streamming. If 20 donators (2 digits), I'll pick 2 papers with numbers. If the result is 18, the address of 18th transaction for the weekly address will receive the prize after post the testimonial of his win in this topic.

One thing you should remember before publishing your work online, don't ever make it online until you think it is complete. For the visitor, it doesn't matter whether you published yesterday or one year before as long as the content is missing they will highlight the issues. That is not the excuse for these issues. If you're in a hurry to earn money, then you can't gain member trust with this design.

Excuse? You can see that the site was started yesterday in http://web.archive.org/*/lottery.plasmmer.com/
The first website's appearance in web was here: http://web.archive.org/web/20160818074408/http://lottery.plasmmer.com
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August 19, 2016, 07:35:09 AM
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The site looks odd. I don't think that you will convince people that is trustworthy. I see that many people here on forum have the simillar remark. Starting your own website and business is not that easy. If you don't know how to do it I think that there are members here on this forum who might helpe you for resonable award.

This is my own site, with a subdomain in my domain because its a separate service. I'm planning changes in design, but the text is my, I've not copied in any other place.

unless you own the hosting provider called plasmmer which is operated by Free Hostia this is a free plan. and a terrible design which makes it un-trusted.
besides lottery needs to be fair, using an escrow and also you have to show us how you plan on picking the winner fair which is never easy.

Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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August 19, 2016, 07:51:41 AM
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Is your website designer a pre-schooler or something? If you want to earn the trust of people, at least make your site look professional and legit. You can get a decent website design with just a few dollars, there's a lot of programmers online now. Also, OP's using a free hosting site. Seriously?

OP only provided a signed message which basically means nothing because if he makes a scam in his website and gets a red tag, his account is worth nothing anyway. The only thing that the signed message did was verify his ownership of the website.

TL;DR: OP's account here + His whole website = worth 0$.

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August 19, 2016, 07:54:06 AM
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I'm realy can't found for how this lottery will be running, where the Verification? are you sure this site will be fix and ready for runing. i guess there are still many shortcomings, but i realy interesting for game a lottery.

I'll do a better design.
The verification is after the first drawing in a live stream. The winner need post in this topic and I'll link it to the lottery history.

But you're not a trusted member yet on this forum. Why does anyone need to trust you and invest money in your site? Because your site design is not so professional may be due to lack of funds and knowledge. So it is difficult for anyone to invest money on some unknown sites. Hopefully we will get more details on how your going to pick the winner each week.

I'm not a trusted member, but I valorize my image here. I have this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1569621.msg15753950#msg15753950 where I earn money with my works and a few people liked. No one need trust, this is a choice. My site isn't have this design due to a lack of funds, and less a lack of knowledge. I'm talking for the "40th once", this site I've started yesterday and I'm working in the design. Yes, I'll give more details in site about the drawings that will pick a player.
I will do live streamming. If 20 donators (2 digits), I'll pick 2 papers with numbers. If the result is 18, the address of 18th transaction for the weekly address will receive the prize after post the testimonial of his win in this topic.

One thing you should remember before publishing your work online, don't ever make it online until you think it is complete. For the visitor, it doesn't matter whether you published yesterday or one year before as long as the content is missing they will highlight the issues. That is not the excuse for these issues. If you're in a hurry to earn money, then you can't gain member trust with this design.

Excuse? You can see that the site was started yesterday in http://web.archive.org/*/lottery.plasmmer.com/
The first website's appearance in web was here: http://web.archive.org/web/20160818074408/http://lottery.plasmmer.com

Even you made the your site a year ago or few minutes ago, it is still better to fix all things including the design before launching. Running a shitty designed site like yours won't attract any users specially you refuse to use escrow


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August 19, 2016, 07:54:57 AM
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I'm realy can't found for how this lottery will be running, where the Verification? are you sure this site will be fix and ready for runing. i guess there are still many shortcomings, but i realy interesting for game a lottery.

I'll do a better design.
The verification is after the first drawing in a live stream. The winner need post in this topic and I'll link it to the lottery history.

But you're not a trusted member yet on this forum. Why does anyone need to trust you and invest money in your site? Because your site design is not so professional may be due to lack of funds and knowledge. So it is difficult for anyone to invest money on some unknown sites. Hopefully we will get more details on how your going to pick the winner each week.

I'm not a trusted member, but I valorize my image here. I have this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1569621.msg15753950#msg15753950 where I earn money with my works and a few people liked. No one need trust, this is a choice. My site isn't have this design due to a lack of funds, and less a lack of knowledge. I'm talking for the "40th once", this site I've started yesterday and I'm working in the design. Yes, I'll give more details in site about the drawings that will pick a player.
I will do live streamming. If 20 donators (2 digits), I'll pick 2 papers with numbers. If the result is 18, the address of 18th transaction for the weekly address will receive the prize after post the testimonial of his win in this topic.

You mean to say you're going pick these results manually? If yes, even with live streaming very few people believe that process because still many ways you can choose the results the way you want it. Provide more info on how you going to pick the winner. If you want to do a business then you should invest money to improve your site design quality.
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August 19, 2016, 08:39:15 AM
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I'm realy can't found for how this lottery will be running, where the Verification? are you sure this site will be fix and ready for runing. i guess there are still many shortcomings, but i realy interesting for game a lottery.

I'll do a better design.
The verification is after the first drawing in a live stream. The winner need post in this topic and I'll link it to the lottery history.

But you're not a trusted member yet on this forum. Why does anyone need to trust you and invest money in your site? Because your site design is not so professional may be due to lack of funds and knowledge. So it is difficult for anyone to invest money on some unknown sites. Hopefully we will get more details on how your going to pick the winner each week.

I'm not a trusted member, but I valorize my image here. I have this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1569621.msg15753950#msg15753950 where I earn money with my works and a few people liked. No one need trust, this is a choice. My site isn't have this design due to a lack of funds, and less a lack of knowledge. I'm talking for the "40th once", this site I've started yesterday and I'm working in the design. Yes, I'll give more details in site about the drawings that will pick a player.
I will do live streamming. If 20 donators (2 digits), I'll pick 2 papers with numbers. If the result is 18, the address of 18th transaction for the weekly address will receive the prize after post the testimonial of his win in this topic.

You mean to say you're going pick these results manually? If yes, even with live streaming very few people believe that process because still many ways you can choose the results the way you want it. Provide more info on how you going to pick the winner. If you want to do a business then you should invest money to improve your site design quality.

Ya what you are saying is correct , i am also thinking that OP is going to conduct the lottery manually and he is going to steam it live, but what about the manual procedure , in that also their are so many loop holes where the OP can cheat because how can we know that all the manual coupons have different number and not the same one. and he is also defending on using the escrow service.

So i think until he dont disclose and solve all problems , it is not recommended to invest in this lottery.
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August 19, 2016, 09:09:18 AM
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Use services like fiverr dot com. Get someone to do a site for u for a minimum of as little as $5, u are really hustling and the appearance of your website doesn't give a sense of trust for people to put in their money. Just work on the website make it appealing and much detailed and user friendly. This is how scammers get people signing up on their sites, they have mastered this trick.
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August 19, 2016, 02:46:17 PM
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Use services like fiverr dot com. Get someone to do a site for u for a minimum of as little as $5, u are really hustling and the appearance of your website doesn't give a sense of trust for people to put in their money. Just work on the website make it appealing and much detailed and user friendly. This is how scammers get people signing up on their sites, they have mastered this trick.

this is what i do when i need help from programmer to build website. beside cheap, their skill is really makes me satisfy. and for the site, i think many people thing that why the OP not use plasmmer.com rather than make child domain. because its look not professional job that everyone could do. so my suggestion is better you move your lottery site into your main domain plasmmer.com and make a good design different than before.

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August 19, 2016, 05:05:14 PM
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The best of your site is the Bitcoin-Address which starts with: 1LUCK

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August 20, 2016, 08:32:33 AM
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In the site, read more for your scrow and see that its trustable
Hi. I've started the lottery service.
http://lottery.-noneclickable-plasmmer.com/
You can bet 0.0015 and get the chance to be the winner every sundays. In this topic the winners will post a testimonial about the trust of the lottery. Read more in the site above.
It says you can verify, but there's nothing to verify about the draw.
What I see, is a Jr. Member with no trust trying to get money. If you keep this up, you'll end up with Red Trust sooner or later.
Too bad you opened two threads now in Gambling section, so please read my post in the other thread first.

Much more professional attempts to create a Bitcoin Lottery have failed. And some are still working, including the Lottery I'm involved in. Read about it on my Blog, and take a look at the provably fair implementation.

The best of your site is the Bitcoin-Address which starts with: 1LUCK
But it's too simple to impress. I found several addresses starting with 1Luckier and 1LuckiLy. The longer the address, the more work has been put into it.

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August 20, 2016, 12:55:49 PM
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In the site, read more for your scrow and see that its trustable
Hi. I've started the lottery service.
http://lottery.plasmmer.com/
You can bet 0.0015 and get the chance to be the winner every sundays. In this topic the winners will post a testimonial about the trust of the lottery. Read more in the site above.

this is the worst thing that i have ever seen in my entire life.
either you are a scam or legit this is terrible.
- bad design
- free website (host+domain)
- you didn't even try to make it look decent
- not fair, no proof of being fair
- low rank member with no history

The best of your site is the Bitcoin-Address which starts with: 1LUCK

making a vanity address with only 4 letters using the famous vanity gen code only takes a couple of seconds.

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August 20, 2016, 01:03:08 PM
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The best of your site is the Bitcoin-Address which starts with: 1LUCK
Not be lucky got address with first 1LUCK, there you can easy got address like this on vanitygen. You've to make address with yours name or username there looking like cool mate.
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August 20, 2016, 08:03:52 PM
Last edit: August 20, 2016, 08:16:13 PM by DarkStar_
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The best of your site is the Bitcoin-Address which starts with: 1LUCK
Not be lucky got address with first 1LUCK, there you can easy got address like this on vanitygen. You've to make address with yours name or username there looking like cool mate.
An address with 1LUCK will take a few seconds to be found with a decent profit, so it isn't really anything special. If he actually wanted it to be special, he should have done 1Lottery, but I guess his computer isn't good enough.



Live streaming the draw won't help. It isn't very hard to inspect element the code of the drawing website and modify it to pick one of your accounts as the winner. Make the lottery provably fair using the blockchain, or some other format. You could take the last 6 characters of a block hash that is announced before the block is mined, use the characters as a hexadecimal and convert it to a decimal. After, apply modulus+1 to see who wins on the number.

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August 20, 2016, 08:23:06 PM
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The site looks odd. I don't think that you will convince people that is trustworthy. I see that many people here on forum have the simillar remark. Starting your own website and business is not that easy. If you don't know how to do it I think that there are members here on this forum who might helpe you for resonable award.

This is my own site, with a subdomain in my domain because its a separate service. I'm planning changes in design, but the text is my, I've not copied in any other place.

unless you own the hosting provider called plasmmer which is operated by Free Hostia this is a free plan. and a terrible design which makes it un-trusted.
besides lottery needs to be fair, using an escrow and also you have to show us how you plan on picking the winner fair which is never easy.

Plasmmer is not the hosting provider, this is my website and the lottery is in subdomain. Yes, but the design I was working for. My plans was pick papers, put in a box, mix and pick to show the winner. But I don't have plans for this Lottery now.
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August 20, 2016, 08:28:58 PM
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Is your website designer a pre-schooler or something? If you want to earn the trust of people, at least make your site look professional and legit. You can get a decent website design with just a few dollars, there's a lot of programmers online now. Also, OP's using a free hosting site. Seriously?

OP only provided a signed message which basically means nothing because if he makes a scam in his website and gets a red tag, his account is worth nothing anyway. The only thing that the signed message did was verify his ownership of the website.

TL;DR: OP's account here + His whole website = worth 0$.

Not designed from a pre-schooler, but created in the early stage. I don't want pay a webdesigner if I can do it. See my portfolio: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1569621
If you want the best design of the world, see: http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/ (this is only a parody)
Plasmmer is not a free hosting website, but my domain. Whats the problem to use a subdomain in my own website?!
Yes, my intention was verify the ownership. My way to show fair was show the first draw. I don't wanted use a escrow, and I know I was wrong.
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August 20, 2016, 08:33:31 PM
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The best of your site is the Bitcoin-Address which starts with: 1LUCK
Not be lucky got address with first 1LUCK, there you can easy got address like this on vanitygen. You've to make address with yours name or username there looking like cool mate.
An address with 1LUCK will take a few seconds to be found with a decent profit, so it isn't really anything special. If he actually wanted it to be special, he should have done 1Lottery, but I guess his computer isn't good enough.



Live streaming the draw won't help. It isn't very hard to inspect element the code of the drawing website and modify it to pick one of your accounts as the winner. Make the lottery provably fair using the blockchain, or some other format. You could take the last 6 characters of a block hash that is announced before the block is mined, use the characters as a hexadecimal and convert it to a decimal. After, apply modulus+1 to see who wins on the number.

My computer isn't good enough - yes - whats the problem in it?
Now the discussion point is the lottery's week address? Seriously?!
"It isn't very hard to inspect element the code of the drawing website and modify it to pick one of your accounts as the winner"
1- The streamming was planned to be with papers, manually pick;
2- I can't and don't want put any alt in it, only solid members of forum participating and posting a win testimonial after draw.
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