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Yes, $ 1 000 000 000 will make a difference in the price, but it is not a viable solution to spike the price for a short period and then have normal trading after that. You want someone pushing in that amount over a longer period, and sustaining that for a year or two. Merchants do not want huge fluctuations in the Bitcoin price, and this spike will surely cause some big spikes and also some major crash. Many governments can dump huge amounts of money into Bitcoin, and even Pension funds.. but I would much rather see them funding Bitcoin projects that would stimulate longer growth and employment opportunities. .
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$1B will cause a permanent increase in the price of bitcoins and it won't go down to the way it was before.
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August 18, 2016, 09:00:32 PM |
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$1B will cause a permanent increase in the price of bitcoins and it won't go down to the way it was before.
if you mean you buying $1B worth of bitcoins definitely that would cause the price to go up as supply would be less and demand would increase forcing a raise in price of bitcoins
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August 18, 2016, 10:04:40 PM |
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Today the rate of 1BTC = $574.58 since the massive development involving bitcoin and it gives me cosine why bitcoin has not risen above $574
Many of us have been holding our bitcoin and waiting for the time that the price will rise so that we can sell...
My question is that what is can we do or what support can we put in place to enable the price of bitcoin in-cress?
What if $1,000,000,000 is pushed into bitcoin will the price rise? Your opinion is highly appreciated
The only most stable and best option to get bitcoin price increase is to somehow make it mainstream digital currency.If every merchant and buyer start accepting bitcoin solely or besides other currencies,bitcoin will get huge push
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first of all, the exchanges are where bitcoin has its value not the 15mill coins in peoples cold store there are not 15mill coins on exchanges, there are only a few hundred thousand coins and those coins that exist on the exchanges are not set at a fixed order price. they vary EG 1000 coins at $600 1000 coins at $605 1000 coins at $610 wont get you 3000 coins by spending 1.8mil.. it will cost you 1.815m then next 3000 coins spread over different prices wont cost 1.815m but more.. progressively costing you more and more for the same allotment of coins
if you are looking for a way to raise the price. its not to flood an exchange with $1billion. after all the current <$600 price point is not made up from <16mill coins x <$600 its only a few hundred thousand coins supply on an exchange. meaning at only one time there is far less than half billion of real dollars or less supporting the bitcoin price, not $10billion real dollars
if $1billion flooded the exchanges where there was only a supply of a few hundred thousand coins. the price would sky rocket, and when i mean spike, i mean SPIKE!!.. but then that spike would not be sustainable. just like the $1,200 spike a few years ago was not sustainable.
the slower you make the movements to increase the price, the more sustainable and natural it will feel to the speculative market. but the less of a high price those funds would cause, and the more you would have to devote to keeping the buy wall alive. because of the slower rise time, this means more new orders coming in so more needs to be spent sustaining it for longer.
the faster you make the movements to increase the price, the less sustainable the spike will be, but the spike would for a short period would be a higher all time high and not as much would need to be spent on the sell side due to lack of supply in a small time period. but would need more spent on a buy wall.
in both situations that $1b spend cannot guarantee a sustainable new high price. in both situations that $1b spend cannot guarantee the price wont eventually fall.
however, if someone was to do it.. here is a better method split the $1billion into 4 baskets of $250m put each basket on each of the 4 prominent exchanges.
use $125m(half basket) to buy coins on each exchange by eating the sell orders on the sell side, resulting in raising the price then use the other $125m to try keeping that price up by creating a 'buy wall' on the buy side, that is too large for other sellers to eat to prevent a instant price drop
in short flooding one market with $1b wont last long. could be a few hours, could be a few days. because the other exchanges at a lower price would arbitrage the Mo'Fo out of the spike for profit until that spike disapears.
if you spread the funds across a few exchanges, it will feel less like a glitch. and you may be able to sustain it for a few months because the arbitrage effect wont be there to eat up the spike.
you can try many different things to either push for a short term new all time high or a long term smooth rise. but eventually if the price is more than an accepted speculative value.. then people will sell like a Mo'Fo firstly thanking you for your generosity and then screaming fear of the impending price drop.
if you are able to sustain the price for 6-12 months, giving enough time so that miners can make mega profits to then buy new rigs, repeating to make more profits to buy more rigs until the new high becomes less speculative profit and instead a minimal break even(more of a real reason to be high).. then you have a chance of that price point lasting because no one is stupid to sell at a loss, but this takes months to cause that miner reaction not hours/days
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August 18, 2016, 10:43:59 PM |
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You could create a billion dollars of weekly injection into the Bitcoin economy if the people holding Bitcoin would start spending it. You don't need some fantasy investor.
The price of all things increases due to demand pressure. If everyone holding btc right now started spending and repurchasing 1 btc a week we'd all be rich in a year.
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August 18, 2016, 10:51:46 PM |
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what kind of question is that? of course it would rise up....
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August 18, 2016, 11:06:29 PM |
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Today the rate of 1BTC = $574.58 since the massive development involving bitcoin and it gives me cosine why bitcoin has not risen above $574
Many of us have been holding our bitcoin and waiting for the time that the price will rise so that we can sell...
My question is that what is can we do or what support can we put in place to enable the price of bitcoin in-cress?
What if $1,000,000,000 is pushed into bitcoin will the price rise? Your opinion is highly appreciated
I think the rotation of circle bitcoin is very slow in this time, you can saw about fiat. their rotate is very fast rather than bitcoin and if yo understand about it because too rarely people spending bitcoin like in a store. I can say because the store is also the important things in the rotations of currency. the bitcoiners is need more store to spending their coins and bitcoin getting more faster in their rotation and that is will giving a big impact for bitcoin.
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August 18, 2016, 11:09:44 PM |
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Of course, if a large amount of money is invested into bitcoin than obviously the price will go up.
especially since bitcoin has a limited amount, so it has no other option but to increase in value if a lot of money is put into it.
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August 18, 2016, 11:14:18 PM |
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The price has risen above 574. A few weeks ago it was $900 USD. The cause of the price fall was because of the hacking of the illegal exchange, Bitfenix. As you can see, bitcoin is a volatile cryptocurrency. The only way that you can increase Bitcoin's price is to buy lots of it. Therefore, if you have $1,000,000,000, invest it all in Bitcoin. When lots of people actively buy Bitcoin, demand goes up and so does the price. A simpler way to attempt to increase the price is by introducing new members yo the Bitcoin community. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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August 19, 2016, 01:29:25 AM |
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Today the rate of 1BTC = $574.58 since the massive development involving bitcoin and it gives me cosine why bitcoin has not risen above $574
Many of us have been holding our bitcoin and waiting for the time that the price will rise so that we can sell...
My question is that what is can we do or what support can we put in place to enable the price of bitcoin in-cress?
What if $1,000,000,000 is pushed into bitcoin will the price rise? Your opinion is highly appreciated
Of course it will rise. That's how the economy works more or less. You have lots of cash. You buy the cheap coins. You also create a lot of demand in the process. Cheap coins run out. Supply tries to keep up. Prices rise.
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August 19, 2016, 04:23:21 AM |
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I also think it would not be a good idea trying to artificially increase the bitcoin value, because it only would generate a sudden pump that would be availed by speculators to sell their coins, which would lead the price to face a huge drop sooner or later, making bitcoin a pump and dump scheme.
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August 19, 2016, 07:24:42 AM |
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Today the rate of 1BTC = $574.58 since the massive development involving bitcoin and it gives me cosine why bitcoin has not risen above $574
Many of us have been holding our bitcoin and waiting for the time that the price will rise so that we can sell...
My question is that what is can we do or what support can we put in place to enable the price of bitcoin in-cress?
What if $1,000,000,000 is pushed into bitcoin will the price rise? Your opinion is highly appreciated
Yes,the price will rise if you buy bitcoins for $1 000,000,000. The bitcoin market capitalization is below 10 billion USD so maybe this could increase the btc price with more than 10$.There are other factors that determine btc price as well.
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August 19, 2016, 07:30:41 AM |
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Let's make some calculations. The current market value is about 9 billion dollars. There are also 15.8 million coins in existence, so if you dumped 1 billion, it would be 10 billion/15.8 million per coin.
This would bring the price up about $50.
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August 19, 2016, 07:39:41 AM |
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this a good idea but we can't predict that this will happen because it is impossible since the price of bitcoin now is range at 571 dollars which is harder to go up or to increase the price up to 1000 dollar or more but if this happen i am going to hold my bitcoins until the last day when this miracle happen i probably buy all things i want for my life
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I dont think so... because that value price is high..and one will not be able to afford to purchase..and that means loosing value... don't think it can rise.
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August 19, 2016, 03:12:55 PM |
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$1B will cause a permanent increase in the price of bitcoins and it won't go down to the way it was before.
yeah, in my opinion bitcoin price would grow a lot in the near future and it would make me some good money
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August 19, 2016, 05:43:54 PM |
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Yes, $ 1 000 000 000 will make a difference in the price, but it is not a viable solution to spike the price for a short period and then have normal trading after that. You want someone pushing in that amount over a longer period, and sustaining that for a year or two. Merchants do not want huge fluctuations in the Bitcoin price, and this spike will surely cause some big spikes and also some major crash. Many governments can dump huge amounts of money into Bitcoin, and even Pension funds.. but I would much rather see them funding Bitcoin projects that would stimulate longer growth and employment opportunities. . Pretty sure that after the super peak there would be a new all time high floor established. There's no way that it would go below the price that it started at, bitcoin now is too established and people would FOMO past a certain point, buying the dip.
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August 19, 2016, 06:40:24 PM |
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Yes, $ 1 000 000 000 will make a difference in the price, but it is not a viable solution to spike the price for a short period and then have normal trading after that. You want someone pushing in that amount over a longer period, and sustaining that for a year or two. Merchants do not want huge fluctuations in the Bitcoin price, and this spike will surely cause some big spikes and also some major crash. Many governments can dump huge amounts of money into Bitcoin, and even Pension funds.. but I would much rather see them funding Bitcoin projects that would stimulate longer growth and employment opportunities. . Pretty sure that after the super peak there would be a new all time high floor established. There's no way that it would go below the price that it started at, bitcoin now is too established and people would FOMO past a certain point, buying the dip. I doubt it, the sudden injection will push the price through the Moon, but without something keeping it there... it would plummet back to earth.. creating a fabulous crash. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) It is for this reason, why I was saying ....we should have this injection over a longer period and spread over a lot of exchanges. A sudden spike on only one exchange, will raise some concerns with traders. We have seen some manipulation on some exchanges, so people might think it is one of those events. Willybot.
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August 19, 2016, 06:49:10 PM |
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We're not talking about a tiny altcoin here, so pumping won't be viable as it'd take way too much money. No one of us has enough money to even remotely push prices up. I don't ever think one person could ever raise the price of Bitcoin unless they created some new demand or have enough money.
I feel like if famous people started buying it would cause some price changes especially if they openly supported it. A lot of people tend to derive their views from those they hold high, i.e. "Leonardo DiCaprio likes Bitcoin? Shit this is going to be huge! I need to get in on that!"
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