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August 22, 2016, 02:01:10 PM |
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Nice idea to make list about not paying or scam casinos. I support idea, and I hope this can be useful to everyone who wish to gamble with bitcoins. I followed a bit situation around betcoin.ag, seems that in the end betsoft made a deal with Jason. I'm not sure what happened there, casino said its betsoft mistake, some members here accused betcoin.ag. Last I remember is that Jason got some money from them, I'm not sure how much. I recommend that every information be checked twice, with bad reputation we can harm some site without any need for that.
Okay, I think I am going to add those who pay but have had problems historically in another, separated section. That way people can make an informed decision.
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August 22, 2016, 04:36:40 PM |
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This is good ! We must name and shame these thieving bastards. Winning in gambling is difficult enough then they won't pay up ? Winning is very rare and they make massive amounts of btc before they suffer a loss. Even though it's still so rare we must still fight with the casino for what is rightfully ours. I mean like winning wasn't enough now this. They should be happy to just pay they make lots.
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August 22, 2016, 09:37:17 PM |
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Okay, waiting for other's opinions on this one, since it doesn't involve the casino bets themselves. I would not add Fortune Jack to the list. The situation mentioned above is about the payout problems with a youtube contest and not the casino payouts.
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August 22, 2016, 10:40:36 PM |
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You might want to add cloudbet in the list of not paying I see some gamblers having a hard time to withdraw their balance from the site. Here's a few scam accusation about them. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1470919.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1440736.0
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August 23, 2016, 12:59:19 AM Last edit: August 23, 2016, 01:13:41 AM by poordeveloper |
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Hmm. Looks like sometimes there are very considerable delays on withdrawals, or maybe in those cases they don't send it until the player opens a scam accusation thread. Adding it to the "with problems" list pending further action. I think we need input from the site admin - so if it happens more times, we know they're actively "missing" withdrawals.
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August 23, 2016, 03:53:10 AM |
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Wow I never expected something like betcoin would degrade their name this way. The thread would be an important tool for monitoring Casinos.
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August 23, 2016, 04:30:24 AM |
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I wouldn't say betcoin reached a settlement; they kind of forced the guy to accept it in exchange for his silence; which is why trusted users on the forum have left negative trust on betcoin's profile. They also have more issues you can read about here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322261I think you should be fine playing on betcoin, it's just that there are way more added risks of losing money.
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August 23, 2016, 04:58:46 AM |
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I wouldn't say betcoin reached a settlement; they kind of forced the guy to accept it in exchange for his silence; which is why trusted users on the forum have left negative trust on betcoin's profile. They also have more issues you can read about here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322261I think you should be fine playing on betcoin, it's just that there are way more added risks of losing money. Well I didn't thought that betcoin.ag is going to be on this list but I think as of now they are getting back the reputation they already have from the past. And not just the only issue of betcoin well it is going to depend on you guys if you are going to keep on trusting that site or you are going to stay away from it.
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August 23, 2016, 06:47:41 AM |
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There are review websites presenting this info on daily basis
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August 23, 2016, 07:06:41 AM |
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They used to show the site's profit along with the total wagered. Dividing wagered by profit showed the house edge was about 4 times higher than advertised. Now they stopped showing their profit.
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August 23, 2016, 09:16:23 AM |
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They are not gonna stop scamming people until they are not reported. Luckily, some victims are post their complain here. These sites cuold be dead if they are not gonna stop doing bullshits. This also a reminder to all gambling sites that play fair as the costumers do. Your reputation is at stake here, if you scam your customer no onw will trust you again.
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August 23, 2016, 09:28:27 AM |
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Betcoin is decent I like use it, but if the jackpot was hit not in the free spins, would they pay? Just curious.
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August 23, 2016, 10:17:41 AM |
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Betcoin is decent I like use it, but if the jackpot was hit not in the free spins, would they pay? Just curious.
Yeah betcoin was decent however now if you like betcoin I am sure you will love satoshigames as they have much more slots than betcoin offering you much more possibilities to win. You can even try the games for free by playing for fun in satoshigames a feature which is lately removed from betcoin. You can play with small minimum bet in satoshigames in certain slots compared to betcoin so I think you should really switch for your own good.
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August 23, 2016, 10:46:07 AM |
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This betcoin.tm is an old scam for a long time, but betcoin.ag is legit, only the jackpot thing is controversial.
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August 23, 2016, 11:01:36 AM |
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They are not gonna stop scamming people until they are not reported. Luckily, some victims are post their complain here. These sites cuold be dead if they are not gonna stop doing bullshits. This also a reminder to all gambling sites that play fair as the costumers do. Your reputation is at stake here, if you scam your customer no onw will trust you again.
Yeah, something good will definitely not announced by users annoyed to those sites. So I think the cloud is indeed this site would be a bad thing for you. the best sites are sites that remain consistent to run something that was once he was talking about
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poordeveloper (OP)
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August 23, 2016, 03:05:01 PM |
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Adding Betcoin.tm. Also going to check out the 999dice problem.
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August 23, 2016, 03:10:05 PM |
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Yeah, now I really hate 999dice.com. I think now they do a game system that is not provably fair, because whenever I do bets will surely get different defeat with primedice. When I use a trick that I use in 999dice.com to play in the WORLD WAR I get pretty good results. Hopefully the Admin 99dice can fix the system or replace the new system more provably fair
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August 23, 2016, 03:14:38 PM |
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Really nice thread. Little by little the list is being added up with sh it casinos that want to suck our money. Let's keep this thread always to the top or a sticky in the gambling section if it isn't already a sticky. Any problem that we will report will have a huge impact in the bitcoin casino. If they don't fix it for sure they will lose a heck of a lot of number of customers and thats what not good for a casino. As with everything in life if you play fair you will be OK but if you try to cheat sooner or later you will regret this way of living.
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poordeveloper (OP)
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August 23, 2016, 05:28:55 PM |
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Yeah, now I really hate 999dice.com. I think now they do a game system that is not provably fair, because whenever I do bets will surely get different defeat with primedice. When I use a trick that I use in 999dice.com to play in the WORLD WAR I get pretty good results. Hopefully the Admin 99dice can fix the system or replace the new system more provably fair
Their system is not probably fair. When you enter their site, you must click a button to "request" the next bet's hash. This means that if you do not click that button, the result is not probably fair.That is why I added it to the SCAM list.
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