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March 27, 2013, 05:29:00 PM
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Community,

Hope we are all doing well.   I am posting to test initial interest in a project I might "green light".


ASIC Hosting Center Details:

I have the opportunity to purchase a building from a friend in the Midwest.   It is an old Multi-story FreeMasons lodge that is over 4,000 sqft.  Brick construction from the 1890s, very quality construction.  I has highspeed internet available and cheap power (5.5/kwh).   A friend I have known for over a decade lives near by and is willing to relocate to the center and live onsite so I will have security and a person that can do simple tasks like maintain the A/C, check cable connections and manually power cycle the units if my remote access fails.  Their is a local security company I can get alarm service and I am going to work with a local IT shop in case I need onsite networking support.  The build has been maintained and the roof is in good shape with not water leaks (I would build a cage inside with a cover for redundancy)

I would do a similar ASIC mining manager setup and my initial goal is to get 20-30 units committed but it could handle a 100 or more with current power available. 


Please give me some feedback if this would be interesting or PM directly.


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March 27, 2013, 05:47:10 PM
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If I didn't have cheap power I would definitely consider this.  The only issue is that most people currently won't commit to moving their ASICs since 4 days downtime for shipping is like $1000 USD.  I assume this is for long term maintenance once the hashrate gets high.  Shipping a unit to Seattle might be more than the power savings of a month of usage (depending on location).  The real benefit would be not having to maintain the operational status of the units.

I'll be visiting in-laws in Seattle in May, we should meet up lol
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March 27, 2013, 05:58:43 PM
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Nitpick #1    use spell check.  there(their?) Roll Eyes

other thoughts...

Lets go thru all the trouble to develop and support a decentralized currency and now that we have it up and running lets centralize it in big data centers!

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March 27, 2013, 06:34:36 PM
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Nitpick #1    use spell check.  there(their?) Roll Eyes

other thoughts...

Lets go thru all the trouble to develop and support a decentralized currency and now that we have it up and running lets centralize it in big data centers!

I understand your position. 

I am just letting people know, I have the ability, resources, technical expertise and want to do this service.   Some people may not want the constant responsibility to make sure these boxes to maximum up time.  This would not be a big data center, it would be a small independent operation in a small town off the grid (almost).  It might appeal to others.   This is why I am asking.  It was presented to me last night and I am actually intrigued. 

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April 04, 2013, 02:26:29 PM
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Interested, what about pricing? BFL provide such service at $25/month for a single SC

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April 04, 2013, 02:56:38 PM
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And where would you get your ASICs from?

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April 04, 2013, 07:16:41 PM
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 sounds interesting.  If you decide to go ahead with plan.  Just let me know..

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April 04, 2013, 07:44:48 PM
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Well, I don't have any need for hosting of my non-existent ASICs at the moment, but Dalkore is someone I judge to be trustworthy. I'd be a little worried about on-site security though - the temptation to steal a bunch of ASICs would be pretty high.
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April 04, 2013, 07:56:48 PM
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I think one of the large problems you are going to have is after you file for a business license, they are going to inspect you.   The fire department is going to come once a year (and within the first months you are open).  They are going to see these things they do not understand and look for the stickers (that they do understand).   No stickers are going to exist.   Then you will have a problem.    Unless, you do it underground like BFL seems to (flying fast and loose with the sales tax laws, the interstate commerce laws and the municipal laws).

No problems here, this is the normal process of setting up hosting & management.

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April 04, 2013, 07:58:06 PM
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Interested, what about pricing? BFL provide such service at $25/month for a single SC

No comment.    I provide a high value management service for my clients.

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April 04, 2013, 07:58:50 PM
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sounds interesting.  If you decide to go ahead with plan.  Just let me know..

PM me with your email address.  I have some things in the works right now.

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April 04, 2013, 08:00:01 PM
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Well, I don't have any need for hosting of my non-existent ASICs at the moment, but Dalkore is someone I judge to be trustworthy. I'd be a little worried about on-site security though - the temptation to steal a bunch of ASICs would be pretty high.

On-site security will be provided.   You are correct on this point and insurance is another option I am exploring.

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April 04, 2013, 08:05:11 PM
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You also have to consider tax implications.

A foreign person hosting hardware in the United States will owe US tax on the income generated by the hardware.
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April 04, 2013, 10:55:23 PM
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If you want to have a tax discussion then please start a topic under "Legal".   Thank you.

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I think this could be a very demanded service if mining really spreads as I hope it will spread - well thought Dalkore

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April 05, 2013, 07:13:43 PM
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You going to have the following?
- reedudant internet connections with diverse paths?
- halon fire suppression
- environmental controls
- deisel power generator

all this is supplied when use a server collocation service.

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April 05, 2013, 07:54:00 PM
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You going to have the following?
- reedudant internet connections with diverse paths?
- halon fire suppression
- environmental controls
- deisel power generator

all this is supplied when use a server collocation service.

These are all super critical, however. You can't expect a startup to have everything in place on day one.
What you may expect is that he invest profits from the first few months into this new equipment.

Ideally he would lure in his first 10 customers with discounted prices, buy tht new stuff and then charge everyone the new price.

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April 05, 2013, 08:00:24 PM
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sounds interesting.  If you decide to go ahead with plan.  Just let me know..

PM me with your email address.  I have some things in the works right now.

 sent a PM hopefully you received it with my email address.  If not just let me know.
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April 05, 2013, 09:05:33 PM
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You going to have the following?
- reedudant internet connections with diverse paths?
- halon fire suppression
- environmental controls
- deisel power generator

all this is supplied when use a server collocation service.

These are all super critical, however. You can't expect a startup to have everything in place on day one.
What you may expect is that he invest profits from the first few months into this new equipment.

Ideally he would lure in his first 10 customers with discounted prices, buy tht new stuff and then charge everyone the new price.

Oh ok, this is sort of an informal hosting. Get it , was thinking he was trying to become a collocation datacenter type business.

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April 05, 2013, 09:16:59 PM
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This makes no sense.. more like the wandering mind of a limo driver

Why would you bother with all this just to host ASIC miners?  Why not open a full fledge datacenter? Unless you are going to have a lot of 'minor miner downtime' while you mine for yourself...

Also.. having a dude crash at the place is not 'security'

I think you would not register this buidling at all as a business and act like it is just your extended basement hobby to anyone asking.. i work in datacenters, you do not know one thing on setting climate control environment

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