Cryptocurrency association to homosexuality are not acceptable!

[kokjo]

do you consider yourself a minority?

[myrkul]

do you consider yourself a minority?

Relatively certain he views himself - mistakenly - among the majority.

He may be a hetero Caucasian male, but his view plant him squarely in the minority.

[MysteryMiner]

Defensive force is another matter entirely.

First gay pride was not met with actively violent protestors. Protestors were peacefully sitting in front of church to block gayfags from entering church and spoiling it. Protesters, including women were forcefully removed by riot police. Next and subsequent years gays were met with much more stronger opposition...

I apologise for my mistakes.

Don't worry, it is easy to mix up similar countries with obscure history.

Balts were slavicized ages ago. Check the damn language. Duh.
Your nation was pwned for thousands of years. Fact.
During WW2 the idiots thought that killing poles and jews was good for business. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponary_massacre
Now, they're just nothing. Who would remember a lithuanian or a latvian today?

Too bad soviets didnt ship them to Siberia like Chechens.

These are false facts invented by NKVD officers under Stalin and Beria.

Balts are not slavicized even now. Baltic language group are distinct group. Completely distinct language group than neighboring Slavic language group.

Latvians kicked out both Germans and Russians from Latvia in WW1. Further read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_War_of_Independence

During WW2 in year 1940 we were occupied by Soviet Union. About 35 000 were murdered or forcibly relocated by jewish NKVD officers for behalf of russian colonists. It all ended in 1941 when German army forced Russian army to retreat. Some people who's relatives were murdered or taken away by soviets were quick to volunteer into police brigades. But they were not participating in repressions against jews mainly because german "special units" did not trust latvians with this task. Additional reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_occupation_of_Latvia_in_1940

We still are something. Time and our actions will prove it!

And You are russian imperialist who want to kill every neighboring nation just to expand the russian land. And You are butthurt about the fact that they are fighting back - Latvians, Finns, Chechens, even slavic Ukrainians. Every neighboring nation hate Russians.

do you consider yourself a minority?

Relatively certain he views himself - mistakenly - among the majority.

He may be a hetero Caucasian male, but his view plant him squarely in the minority.

You are wrong Myrkul. You probably will not believe but my views are not in minority.

[Axios]

These are false facts invented by NKVD officers under Stalin and Beria.

LOL. Stalin and Beria wrote the wikipedia. OMG this is so funny.

Balts are not slavicized even now. Baltic language group are distinct group. Completely distinct language group than neighboring Slavic language group.

Fact: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Balto-Slavic_language

The simple story of Balts. West Balts got pwned by Germanic tribes, East Balts got pwned by Slavs.. The remnants got kicked all the way to the north and a bunch of them just simply got assimilated.

Latvians kicked out both Germans and Russians from Latvia in WW1. Further read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_War_of_Independence

After centuries getting owned? And how long they lasted. O'way. Jews did a much better job with Israel.

Fact:

Reds pwned Latvians, only after help from Germany AND Poland they got their short lived independence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Latvia

During WW2 in year 1940 we were occupied by Soviet Union. About 35 000 were murdered or forcibly relocated by jewish NKVD officers for behalf of russian colonists. It all ended in 1941 when German army forced Russian army to retreat. Some people who's relatives were murdered or taken away by soviets were quick to volunteer into police brigades. But they were not participating in repressions against jews mainly because german "special units" did not trust latvians with this task. Additional reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_occupation_of_Latvia_in_1940

So you're a latvian?

I assume these guys aren't Latvians? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_Latvia#Ar.C4.81js_commando_formed

Jewish NKVD? Ahhhh..

The June deportation took place on June 13 and June 14, 1941, estimated at 15 600 men, women, and children, and including 20% of Latvia's last legal government. Approximately 35 000 total (1.8% of Latvia's population) were deported during the first Soviet occupation. Stalin's deportations also included thousands of Latvian Jews. (The mass deportation totaled 131 500 across the Baltics.)

And You are russian imperialist who want to kill every neighboring nation just to expand the russian land. And You are butthurt about the fact that they are fighting back - Latvians, Finns, Chechens, even slavic Ukrainians. Every neighboring nation hate Russians.

Huh? Finns / Ukrainians are fine with Russians. Only small dicks like you bitch a lot.

[myrkul]

Defensive force is another matter entirely.

First gay pride was not met with actively violent protestors. Protestors were peacefully sitting in front of church to block gayfags from entering church and spoiling it. Protesters, including women were forcefully removed by riot police. Next and subsequent years gays were met with much more stronger opposition...

Why would they want to enter a church? Was the priest/minister/whatever of this church among the crowd preventing their entry? Do you have a news report or other article regarding this event? (Russian is fine, Google does a half-way decent job with the translation)

I have to say I don't approve of use of riot police to remove a counterprotest.

You guys certainly have some difficulty getting that whole "peaceably assemble" bit down.

do you consider yourself a minority?

Relatively certain he views himself - mistakenly - among the majority.

He may be a hetero Caucasian male, but his view plant him squarely in the minority.

You are wrong Myrkul. You probably will not believe but my views are not in minority.

You're right, I don't believe you. Yours is a dwindling voice.

[BBQKorv]

What?

People are open minded enough to use this revolutionary internet currency but do have issues if some people around them don't follow the 2000 years old Biblical view of "proper" human relationships.

Maybe all of the scared people just are too scared of their own bi- or homosexual thoughts. This is just insane, I couldn't care less if there are some gay couples walking in the streets, it's none of my business.

[kokjo]

What?

People are open minded enough to use this revolutionary internet currency but do have issues if some people around them don't follow the 2000 years old Biblical view of "proper" human relationships.

...while claiming they are atheist.

[MysteryMiner]

Why would they want to enter a church? Was the priest/minister/whatever of this church among the crowd preventing their entry? Do you have a news report or other article regarding this event? (Russian is fine, Google does a half-way decent job with the translation)

I have to say I don't approve of use of riot police to remove a counterprotest.

You guys certainly have some difficulty getting that whole "peaceably assemble" bit down.

I have unedited VHS video tape from that event. Police using force against non-violent and passive protesters, including older women and teenagers. Jut for the "gay" people to enter church as an act of blasphemy. I'm not christian but I understand that the only reason for church service that day was to provocate and infuriate christians.

And what about "peacefull assembly" of necrophiliacs? (their assembly really must be quiet and peaceful )

You're right, I don't believe you. Yours is a dwindling voice.

Different parts of world have different moral and cultural values. Different laws. Good luck forcing decriminalization of alcohol consumption upon Saudi arabian muslims!

What?

People are open minded enough to use this revolutionary internet currency but do have issues if some people around them don't follow the 2000 years old Biblical view of "proper" human relationships.

If homosexuality was "proper" then every people would fuck everyone else. More than 90% prefer opposite sex as sexual partners.

I stopped to believe the concept of god in the same day I learned that Santa Claus and Easter bunny are fake. My parents were atheistic as well. Opposing homosexuality and other deviations is nothing to do with religion at all. I have no religion, don't believe there is anything supernatural in world etc. It just happens so than in USA largest anti-gay protesters are christians. Here christians are protesting too, but main body of protesters are ordinary people.

Maybe all of the scared people just are too scared of their own bi- or homosexual thoughts. This is just insane, I couldn't care less if there are some gay couples walking in the streets, it's none of my business

It is not true. The homosexual controlled press and television make people believe this bullcrap about protesters being hidden gay themselves. I liked naked women from age 9 when I started to masturbate. Of course I cannot prove that I have no desires or thoughts of having homosexual affairs.

It is my business if I find something disgusting and unpleasant happening in public. If I'm in cinema with my girlfriend I would not like to see a gay or lesbian couple around. It is like someone eating dog shit instead of popcorn. In both gay and dog shit cases I will kick the sicko out of there.

[myrkul]

Why would they want to enter a church? Was the priest/minister/whatever of this church among the crowd preventing their entry? Do you have a news report or other article regarding this event? (Russian is fine, Google does a half-way decent job with the translation)

I have to say I don't approve of use of riot police to remove a counterprotest.

You guys certainly have some difficulty getting that whole "peaceably assemble" bit down.

I have unedited VHS video tape from that event. Police using force against non-violent and passive protesters, including older women and teenagers. Jut for the "gay" people to enter church as an act of blasphemy. I'm not christian but I understand that the only reason for church service that day was to provocate and infuriate christians.

You failed to answer one vital question: Where was the pastor/priest/etc during all this? What was the church's opinion on the matter? And that VHS tape does me no good. I need something I can look at, not something you can look at and tell me about. Forgive me, but your objectivity is suspect.

And what about "peacefull assembly" of necrophiliacs? (their assembly really must be quiet and peaceful )

Assuming they're not harming anyone, I have no problem with them.

[MysteryMiner]

You failed to answer one vital question: Where was the pastor/priest/etc during all this? What was the church's opinion on the matter? And that VHS tape does me no good. I need something I can look at, not something you can look at and tell me about. Forgive me, but your objectivity is suspect.

The pastor was gay himself. Google for Maris Sants. He is the pidar pastor that got his ass kicked out from christian community. It was long ago and back then I was using VHS system for video. Probably goggling for Riga pride 2005 will bring up some videos from that event.

Assuming they're not harming anyone, I have no problem with them.

Then all your common sense are totally gone. Not to mention moral values. You perfectly demonstrated this. I got impression that You are capable of thinking different than mainstream media and also a gun enthusiast. It is untypical for such person to be fag supporter.

[John (John K.)]

Can I move this thread to Politics & Society now? I don't think the past few pages had anything to do with the forum itself...

[myrkul]

You failed to answer one vital question: Where was the pastor/priest/etc during all this? What was the church's opinion on the matter? And that VHS tape does me no good. I need something I can look at, not something you can look at and tell me about. Forgive me, but your objectivity is suspect.

The pastor was gay himself.

Well, there you are then. His church, he can decide who to give a service for. If a little old lady was blocking the entrance to my place of business, she'd get moved out of the way, too. I probably wouldn't use riot police, but like I said, you guys don't quite have the whole "peaceful protest" thing down yet.

Assuming they're not harming anyone, I have no problem with them.

Then all your common sense are totally gone. Not to mention moral values. You perfectly demonstrated this. I got impression that You are capable of thinking different than mainstream media and also a gun enthusiast. It is untypical for such person to be fag supporter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

Perfectly typical.

Can I move this thread to Politics & Society now? I don't think the past few pages had anything to do with the forum itself...

I'm fine with that.

[MysteryMiner]

Well, there you are then. His church, he can decide who to give a service for. If a little old lady was blocking the entrance to my place of business, she'd get moved out of the way, too. I probably wouldn't use riot police, but like I said, you guys don't quite have the whole "peaceful protest" thing down yet.

The homosexuals were trying every possibility to intentionally infuriate society. They were expecting violent reaction to advance their political goals. There were no real violence against homosexuals before the gay prides. But they wanted to have public demonstrations, official recognition by state, gay marriage and adoption rights. It is all about what values and order society have, not what each pervert does in his bedroom.

The church was not owned by pastor. His actions caused him to be expelled from christian community. It is like cashier or security guard letting in robbers and convicts into bank vault and do banking operations in there.

[myrkul]

The church was not owned by pastor. His actions caused him to be expelled from christian community. It is like cashier or security guard letting in robbers and convicts into bank vault and do banking operations in there.

More like the bank manager letting convicts have bank accounts. He was put in charge of the church. That gave him the ability to choose who to do services for.

I'm sorry if your fine "atheist" sensibilities were offended by a pastor giving a service for whomever he felt like, but it's not yours, or the crowd's, decision, it's his. If that got him booted from the church hierarchy, well, then that's the risk he took.

Here in the US, we have churches specifically set up for gays, by gays. And I have no problem with that, nor with gays attending normal church services.

[kokjo]

i am i minority, and therefor i sympetise with other minorities. No im not gay, i have a mental disorder called autism. "Weird" people(like me, or homos, or blacks, or jews) were killed in Germany when the Nazis ruled.

Now a short poem in danish by Martin Niemöller from WW2:

Først kom de for at tage kommunisterne, men jeg protesterede ikke, jeg var jo ikke kommunist.
Da de kom for at arrestere fagforeningsmændene, protesterede jeg ikke, jeg var jo ikke fagforeningsmand.
Da de spærrede socialisterne inde, protesterede jeg ikke, jeg var jo ikke socialist.
Da de spærrede jøderne inde, protesterede jeg ikke, jeg var jo ikke jøde.
Da de kom efter mig, var der ikke flere tilbage til at protestere.

and translation to english:

first they came to take the communists, but i did not protest, i was not a communist.
when they came to take the union-workers, i did not protest, i was not a union-worker.
when they jailed the socialists, i did not protest, i was not a socialist.
when they jailed the jews, i did not protest, i was not a jew.
then they came to take me, and there was no one left to protest.

This is why we disagree with you: You are attacking a minority. And we ask the question: "will i be next?"

No sane and intelligent person, would support a system that discriminates minorities, except in self defense(bankrobbers or murders).

Therefor i conclude that you are either very stupid, or insane. Discussion over.

[myrkul]

i am i minority, and therefor i sympetise with other minorities. No im not gay, i have a mental disorder called autism. "Weird" people(like me, or homos, or blacks, or jews) were killed in Germany when the Nazis ruled.
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Therefor i conclude that you are either very stupid, or insane. Discussion over.

He's already established that he's a Nazi. So very probably both.

[kokjo]

i am i minority, and therefor i sympetise with other minorities. No im not gay, i have a mental disorder called autism. "Weird" people(like me, or homos, or blacks, or jews) were killed in Germany when the Nazis ruled.
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Therefor i conclude that you are either very stupid, or insane. Discussion over.

He's already established that he's a Nazi. So very probably both.

I know. But what really pissed me off, is that he does not respond to logic.

[MysteryMiner]

More like the bank manager letting convicts have bank accounts. He was put in charge of the church. That gave him the ability to choose who to do services for.

Church are anti-gay by definition. Most of the gays attending church were not believers like majority of people living in ex-ussr. They visited church with single purpose - provocation. I don't care about church. All that I want is fags being removed from society and I don't like that they get their goals.

i am i minority, and therefor i sympetise with other minorities. No im not gay, i have a mental disorder called autism. "Weird" people(like me, or homos, or blacks, or jews) were killed in Germany when the Nazis ruled.

People with autism are vegetables. Aspergers are over-diagnosed in recent time. People with autism usually have no empathy towards others, so You probably are not sick with autism. Nazis did good job by destroying the incurable sick. The mentally retarded will not only never be cured but also the mental retardation is abomination of human. I have seen really retarded people peeing on walls, salivating and having seizures. If you think that junkies or homeless are disgusting then think again.

You are attacking a minority. And we ask the question: "will i be next?"

No. By creating unified nation I would not be next. I'm normal individual with proper skin color, ethnicity and political views.

i am i minority, and therefor i sympetise with other minorities. No im not gay, i have a mental disorder called autism. "Weird" people(like me, or homos, or blacks, or jews) were killed in Germany when the Nazis ruled.
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Therefor i conclude that you are either very stupid, or insane. Discussion over.

He's already established that he's a Nazi. So very probably both.

Was German people stupid and insane to vote Hitler as a canceler? And to fight for his ideas to death? I don't think so! This is like me saying that all libertarians or democrats are retarded.

[kokjo]

i am i minority, and therefor i sympetise with other minorities. No im not gay, i have a mental disorder called autism. "Weird" people(like me, or homos, or blacks, or jews) were killed in Germany when the Nazis ruled.

People with autism are vegetables. Aspergers are over-diagnosed in recent time. People with autism usually have no empathy towards others, so You probably are not sick with autism. Nazis did good job by destroying the incurable sick. The mentally retarded will not only never be cured but also the mental retardation is abomination of human. I have seen really retarded people peeing on walls, salivating and having seizures. If you think that junkies or homeless are disgusting then think again.

Thanks for calling me a carrot. Asshole!
yes, i do have problems with empathy(and otherthings too). and, no im not sick.
Even though i have a problem with empathy, that does not mean that i don't know who to function in a society. All i have to do is behave in my own self interest, which means i should me nice to people, so that they will be nice to me too.
Empathy is the ability to recognize and feel others emotions.

You are attacking a minority. And we ask the question: "will i be next?"

No. By creating unified nation I would not be next. I'm normal individual with proper skin color, ethnicity and political views.

LOL no, you are delusional and should be put in a institution.
and yes that is a valid aggression on a individual, who rape girls and attack other people. rapists and violent people are harmful for society, and should be put away.

i am i minority, and therefor i sympetise with other minorities. No im not gay, i have a mental disorder called autism. "Weird" people(like me, or homos, or blacks, or jews) were killed in Germany when the Nazis ruled.
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Therefor i conclude that you are either very stupid, or insane. Discussion over.

He's already established that he's a Nazi. So very probably both.

Was German people stupid and insane to vote Hitler as a canceler? And to fight for his ideas to death? I don't think so! This is like me saying that all libertarians or democrats are retarded.

No, they were not. They thought they were behaving in there own self interest, when Hitler came to power germany was poor, becuase they had lost WW1, and the Americans pulled out all their investments in Germany because of the wallstreet crack in '29.
Hitler blamed "the evil and rich" jews, and gave them Highways. and then brainwashed/group pressured the German people into nazism.
I can understand that they were confused.

[myrkul]

More like the bank manager letting convicts have bank accounts. He was put in charge of the church. That gave him the ability to choose who to do services for.

Church are anti-gay by definition.

Yup. God loves everyone. Except gays.

He's already established that he's a Nazi. So very probably both.

Was German people stupid and insane to vote Hitler as a canceler? And to fight for his ideas to death?

Yes.

Oh, and before you start crowing that all crazy people should be exterminated, maybe you should consider that that might include you....
http://open.salon.com/blog/anthony_j_palik/2011/01/08/does_being_a_nazi_make_one_mentally_ill

However, when the political philosophy of the Nazi Party is closely examined, it is very hard to deny that the adherence to such a programme - or any extremist, racist programme for that matter - does not constitute a form of sociopathy.