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September 05, 2016, 02:19:09 PM |
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I still Shocked after Hashocean Scam , I dont Trust the Mining anymore ! I whant know other ways to exploit and invest the Bictcoin without mining
or best thing for some one how dont have long time to work in his PC to earn BTC ?
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September 05, 2016, 02:24:12 PM |
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Hello !
I still Shocked after Hashocean Scam , I dont Trust the Mining anymore ! I whant know other ways to exploit and invest the Bictcoin without mining
or best thing for some one how dont have long time to work in his PC to earn BTC ?
do mining by your own. Buy some good graphic cards and mine ethereum or other altcoins.
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September 05, 2016, 02:35:16 PM |
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What do you mean by "investing in Bitcoin without mining"? Do you want to make more BTC I guess... well its simple, you can buy monthly with extra money you may end up having at the end of the month.
If you want passive gains like investing in hashocean... I think its not going to happen. There's no way to make passive gains.
So either buy BTC, or buy alts and sell for BTC.
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September 05, 2016, 02:36:09 PM |
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methods: 1) invest in stock: buy products/novelties with fiat, sell it for bitcoin. keep profit as bitcoin and use the rest to rebuy stock (alpaca socks, bitcoin cupcakes business plan) 2) bitcoin broker: buy bitcoin sell it at a couple percent increase to local people in your area (localbitcoin, BitcoinATM business model) 3) conferences: hire a meeting room or large floorplan area, invite people to come, charge a ticket fee (devcon, expos, conference business model) 4) hardware: invent a new ASIC, hardware wallet or other bitcoin tool (antminer, keepkey business model)
but im guessing you are probably more hands-off and just want to throw money at something and let it earn you returns without breaking a sweat, and so
1) VC investing in legit(corporate registered that have real office locations you can visit) bitcoin businesses 2) do any of the 4 hands on idea's but give a percentage of profits/salary to a person who would do the hands-on stuff for you
but im guessing you are probably going to say your not a whale investor and dont have that kind of amount to do any of the above
1) your better off continuing your own normal job and just buying up bitcoin each payday,
2) reduce your outgoings and use the money you save to buy bitcoin EG if you spend $15 an evening on pizza, a beer and a couple cigarettes, while stresing out at the scams.. just eat a grilled cheeze sandwich with meat and sauce slapped ontop and get a cheaper brand of beer, allowing you to put $10 into bitcoin
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September 05, 2016, 02:38:34 PM |
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All the bitcoin related investment programs are only ponzi or are like to scam only so chance of lossing all you invested there is high. Better buy own physical mining device if you have enough money to buy latest antminer and also if you can get cheap electricity you can earn good daily income over your investment mining bitcoin/altcoins.
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September 05, 2016, 02:49:01 PM |
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All the bitcoin related investment programs are only ponzi or are like to scam only so chance of lossing all you invested there is high. Better buy own physical mining device if you have enough money to buy latest antminer and also if you can get cheap electricity you can earn good daily income over your investment mining bitcoin/altcoins.
even with "free" electric you wont break even. the reason is the retail price bitmain sells at is 4x higher then their cost of production. EG $1600 retail is ~ $400 cost. electricity at 5cents/kwh its about $285 over 6 months electricity at 10cents/kwh its about $570 over 6 months electricity at 20cents/kwh its about $1140 over 6 months so even at 0 electric.. its still costing you $1600 retail for the unit, where as bitmain/antpool costs is $685(unit and 5cent/kwh 6 month payment) which no one can beat because bitmain wont sell a rig for $400 to outsiders. infact bitmain costs are only $285 for 6 months use.. this is because every retail unit they sell. bitmain deliver 1 unit to the customer and 3 units to theirselves(antpool) for free
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September 05, 2016, 02:52:49 PM |
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invested by mining is a great idea, but we need a lot of capital is enough to do a job like this. Other alternatives in my opinion is to invest in trading. we can benefit from the buying and selling bitcoin / altcoin. and you do not need to purchase a mining hardware !
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September 05, 2016, 02:53:26 PM |
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Hello !
I still Shocked after Hashocean Scam , I dont Trust the Mining anymore ! I whant know other ways to exploit and invest the Bictcoin without mining
or best thing for some one how dont have long time to work in his PC to earn BTC ?
Your sentences are referred into cloud mining and you don't ever try for mining for gather bitcoin directly, well franky is already giving your answer and that is just on your intention for choosing the method is suitable for you.
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September 05, 2016, 05:23:46 PM |
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There is no magic answer to this, because different people have different skill sets and we all need to play to our strengths to maximize our profits. We have learned from experience that Cloud mining are not the way to go, and actual mining are not profitable with the high difficulty and the energy cost associated with that. I think your best bet would be to buy Bitcoin at a low cost and to sell it for a profit when it's high. It works for me.. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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September 05, 2016, 05:32:34 PM |
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Hello !
I still Shocked after Hashocean Scam , I dont Trust the Mining anymore ! I whant know other ways to exploit and invest the Bictcoin without mining
or best thing for some one how dont have long time to work in his PC to earn BTC ?
Try to invest on liqui, it is a new exchanger that's currently officially launched (they are in beta before), they have this interest feature where you let your coin sit for 24 hours (can be claimed back at anytime though you won't get the profit unless you let it sit for the whole 24 hours) and gain some amount as a bonus.
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September 05, 2016, 05:37:45 PM |
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Hello !
I still Shocked after Hashocean Scam,
I'm not. It was obviously a scam from the very beginning. I dont Trust the Mining anymore !
Real mining doesn't require any trust at all. Giving your money to someone else that promises to do the mining for you requires a LOT of trust. Why would you trust a complete stranger that you know nothing about? I whant know other ways to exploit and invest the Bictcoin without mining or best thing for some one how dont have long time to work in his PC to earn BTC ?
Get a job? You can either get a job that will pay you with bitcoins, or you can get a job that will pay you with your local currency and then exchange that local currency for bitcoins. Start a business? You can either start a business that will accept bitcoins as payment, or you can start a business that will accept your local currency and then exchange that local currency for bitcoins.
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September 05, 2016, 05:43:31 PM |
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No one 'invested' in mining with such companies. They invested in a scheme that was taking money from other people to keep you fooled until there were no fools left. Had any of these people bothered to ask around before doing so then they could've been informed and saved themselves their loss. It's not a tricky one to work out.
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September 05, 2016, 05:44:25 PM |
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Hello !
I still Shocked after Hashocean Scam , I dont Trust the Mining anymore ! I whant know other ways to exploit and invest the Bictcoin without mining
or best thing for some one how dont have long time to work in his PC to earn BTC ?
Do some research on altcoins running in the markets and start trading altcoins with the bitcoins you have, choose the right ones which are mostly being traded by others and you will make some profits with the time.
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September 05, 2016, 05:46:09 PM |
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Hashocean owner tells that they are going back online and i don't know when hoping that they're going to fulfill their promise so that many investors are going to trust them again, If not well it's lesson learned for us who investing in scheme website because some of us are greedy in wealth ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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September 05, 2016, 06:03:45 PM |
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Cloud mining honestly are scam almost all they are just the same as investment site so beware for those investment schemes.. The only thing that i can suggest to you better to study trading and try to test your self and learn in any trading site like in my signature.. small amount can help you learn to trade and how trading works. after that check coinmarket cap and choose top 20 there those altcoin are profitable but it takes a long time before you can make a goof profit.. Unlike new release coin that you didnt know if it will stay long in the market.. you will be lose if those altcoin in buy wall almost many.
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September 06, 2016, 12:24:44 PM |
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Honestly, Cloud Mining makes me tired off with their ROI in 2 to 3 months. If you are looking for a risk investment, invest some BTC in Bitcoin Gambling Bankroll. Besides that, if you are still not satisfied, store your BTC in a cold wallet on a small hard disk and wait & forget a few years.
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September 06, 2016, 01:14:47 PM |
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Hello !
I still Shocked after Hashocean Scam , I dont Trust the Mining anymore ! I whant know other ways to exploit and invest the Bictcoin without mining
or best thing for some one how dont have long time to work in his PC to earn BTC ?
I can`t figure out a way to invest bitocins that is safe enough to be recommended. There is always risk involved. Maybe peer-to-peer lending platforms. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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September 06, 2016, 02:10:26 PM |
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Hashocean owner tells that they are going back online and i don't know when hoping that they're going to fulfill their promise so that many investors are going to trust them again, If not well it's lesson learned for us who investing in scheme website because some of us are greedy in wealth ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) firstly, they are not going to come back again but in a possible scenario, even if they come back they will not get any investor to invest in them again. now you tell me, are you going to trust a past scammer if he promises to be a good guy in the future ? obviously no. lol. Hello !
I still Shocked after Hashocean Scam , I dont Trust the Mining anymore ! I whant know other ways to exploit and invest the Bictcoin without mining
or best thing for some one how dont have long time to work in his PC to earn BTC ?
I can`t figure out a way to invest bitocins that is safe enough to be recommended.
There is always risk involved. Maybe peer-to-peer lending platforms. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) @op is asking for another way of investing btc and i am sure that he already knows what investment actually means. every investment has certain risks. if there were any safer way to multiply your bits then the word "investment" would not exist. lol. btw, @op, the best way to invest and earn more bits is to hold your bits for long time, maybe 2 years or more, and see the blowing results. if you are too impatient then you can also do short term trading regularly and earn small profits.
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September 06, 2016, 02:35:55 PM |
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I can confirm that for newbie it is very difficult to find ways how to invest Bitcoins. Nowadays also mining can be overhelmed with scam sites. May be you can try investing in Forex or for example, in just-dice site - this gambling site works with clam altcoin and have dedicated players group. But keep in mind, that in Forex you need a lot of experience.
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September 06, 2016, 03:16:26 PM |
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Another way to invest is not to do anything. Just buy bitcoins with your own money and save. Now while you are saving and continuing to add more bitcoin to your wallet, study trading and altcoins.
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