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September 09, 2016, 09:54:27 AM |
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I have setup a GPU mining rig and getting okay returns from it. I want to move on to USB stick miner. (As of the reviews I heard I know I shouldn't buy them reasons still not clear to me) but I still want to give it a try. I have already ordered "USB Stick Miner GekkoScience Compac 8-16 GH/s " but as I live in India it will take like 30 days to arrive. Meanwhile I want to try something else also. So Please suggest people what should I buy and which is available in India as most of them are not or out of Stock. Anyone willing to sell is also acceptable. Thanks Buddies P.S. - Should I buy "BITMAIN ANTMINER U2 2Gh/s USB Bitcoin ASIC Miner" ? Any other suggestions also accepted.
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manav1112
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September 09, 2016, 09:58:00 AM |
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No, you wont get any even 'okay' returns with any sort of USB ASIC miner as of today.
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altcoinhosting
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September 09, 2016, 10:04:39 AM |
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A 2 Gh/s usb stick will make you approximately 50 dollarcents a year, at current difficulty, price and block reward. This does not include the power cost, nor the hardware cost of such a stick.
In all likelyhood, the difficulty will rise, the blocks will halve in less than 4 years and the price will fluctuate. Most pools don't even allow you to withdraw such small ammounts. You'll literally have to mine for several years to reach the minimum withdrawal amount.
Bitmain's latest product, the S9 hashes at 14Th/s. You'll need about 7000 U2's to have the equivalent hashpower of a single S9...
IMHO, those sticks are good for learning the basics. I have a couple of them i bought a while ago when i got into bitcoin just to teach myself the ropes. After that, you can use them to mine new sha256 altcoins the minute they're announced (before the other guys start mining them), hold on to your altcoins, and then hope their price will skyrocket. Other than that, those sticks have no use.
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in2tactics
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September 09, 2016, 10:07:02 AM |
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You could always mine on p2pool and if you get lucky to find a share or two before a payout, you might make a few satoshi.
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September 09, 2016, 12:00:30 PM |
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I want to move on to USB stick miner. (As of the reviews I heard I know I shouldn't buy them reasons still not clear to me) but I still want to give it a try.
I have already ordered "USB Stick Miner GekkoScience Compac 8-16 GH/s " but as I live in India it will take like 30 days to arrive. Meanwhile I want to try something else also.
Unless you have free electricity, you will never make enough from ANY stick-type miner to pay for it's cost. On the plus side, the Gekko gets the CLOSEST to doing so. Your best bet with it is probably to treat it as a "lottery" device and solo mine with it. Alternatively, use it to learn how to set up stuff for a miner with the plan to eventually get at least one Bitcoin miner with a SIGNIFICANT hashrate at some point in the future.
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kanazawa
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September 09, 2016, 01:27:12 PM |
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Man, I bought one U2 in 2013 when it arrived in the market. That time it was little profitable so I picked 10 and plugged in a USB hub with a 12V 1A cooler. But now, it wouldn't earn a cent. Think a lot about mining... If are unable to join BTC mining, you better mine altcoins. Think about it.
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September 10, 2016, 10:46:36 PM |
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If you're still on the USB topic, don't buy one. 2GH/s or up to 16GH/s from the Gekko compact isn't going to get you anywhere anytime soon.
I recommend Ether mining; the RX 470 is going to be your best bet; it's slightly cheaper than the RX 480 and hashes nearly the same. 480's are still in very high demand, and they're actively being price gouged. Once things settle down, it should be a nice card to mine with.
With the price rise, XMR may be a good option, although Ethereum may be a better long-term solution, as it appears to be more stable than other altcoins. It's all your choice, though; I recommend doing research. It will pay off.
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September 11, 2016, 05:28:30 AM |
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Please stick to the original poster's question. Do not use this thread as an opportunity to discuss other unrelated altcoin mining.
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Developer/maintainer for cgminer, ckpool/ckproxy, and the -ck kernel 2% Fee Solo mining at solo.ckpool.org -ck
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September 11, 2016, 05:52:42 AM |
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Wow we gettin pissy over altcoins?? Y U mad bro?? Oh Mikestang must have flexed his muscle On topic....DO NOT BUY ANY BITCOIN MINING HARDWARE...I cannot say what hardware & coins to mine because of censorship here so PM me & I'll share my thoughts
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"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day long, you are the asshole." -Raylan Givens Got GOXXED ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KiqRpPiJAU&feature=youtu.be"An ASIC being late is perfectly normal, predictable, and legal..."Hashfast & BFL slogan
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September 11, 2016, 10:25:55 AM |
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Wow we gettin pissy over altcoins?? Y U mad bro?? Oh Mikestang must have flexed his muscle On topic....DO NOT BUY ANY BITCOIN MINING HARDWARE...I cannot say what hardware & coins to mine because of censorship here so PM me & I'll share my thoughts Only compac sticks have value if you have free or cheap power. I have 11 compac sticks on my only linux build. They are fun to look at. I point them to kano.is and sometimes at ck pool. They lose money. On the same linux pc I run a node for btc. It also loses money. Unfortunately mining BTC for profit is really hard to do. If you are set on a USB sticks the only worth while one is a compac stick. Did I mention I have 11 of them? If I were to sell you one for 30 usd shipping is 33 usd or 63 usd. if I were to sell you two for 60 usd shipping is 33 usd or 93 usd total if I were to sell you three for 90 usd shipping is 33 usd or 123 usd total if I were to sell you four for 100 usd shipping is 33 usd or 133 usd total They fit in a usps priority mail flat rate box. If you want to know more about compac sticks or any other mining send me a pm. I will answer your question in detail.
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in2tactics
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September 11, 2016, 11:17:56 AM |
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I still roll 5x Bitmain U1 miners on a Raspberry Pi. It is only useful for the entertainment of watching the blinking lights. I point them at p2pool along with 4x S3 miners and they make a decent little payout every time we find a block.
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September 12, 2016, 02:34:11 PM |
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That compact stick is 100% the only way to go for USB mining.
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in2tactics
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September 13, 2016, 07:35:27 AM |
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I think you might be missing the point. In today's market, the intent of mining with compacs is usually for educational purposes and/or fun. Anyone expecting to make a legitimate profit on compacs is either hoping to win the lottery solo mining or simply misinformed. Anyway, spazzdla is correct. If your intent is to USB mine for whatever reason, Sidehack's GekkoScience Compac is the way to go.
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September 13, 2016, 07:44:35 AM |
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I think you might be missing the point. In today's market, the intent of mining with compacs is usually for educational purposes and/or fun. Anyone expecting to make a legitimate profit on compacs is either hoping to win the lottery solo mining or simply misinformed.
Anyway, spazzdla is correct. If your intent is to USB mine for whatever reason, Sidehack's GekkoScience Compac is the way to go.
In my first post i clearly indicated that the only two things those sticks are good for are instamining and learning . I answered to spazzdla's post because i felt it kinda looked like he said it was a good thing to mine with a compac, while it can only be seen as an educational tool (in my personal opinion). Maybe i used the wrong wording in my post. That being said: if you want to learn how to mine, i don't think there's a difference between an old U2 or a compac. Neither of them will give you enough satoshi's to make a withdrawal from a pool, neither of them will have a significant chance of hitting a block, and both of them will have enough hashpower to join a pool and see some shares rolling in (altough you won't make enough to actually withdraw your profits). Just my personal opinion tough.
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September 13, 2016, 11:41:26 AM Last edit: September 13, 2016, 11:54:52 AM by philipma1957 |
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I think you might be missing the point. In today's market, the intent of mining with compacs is usually for educational purposes and/or fun. Anyone expecting to make a legitimate profit on compacs is either hoping to win the lottery solo mining or simply misinformed.
Anyway, spazzdla is correct. If your intent is to USB mine for whatever reason, Sidehack's GekkoScience Compac is the way to go.
In my first post i clearly indicated that the only two things those sticks are good for are instamining and learning . I answered to spazzdla's post because i felt it kinda looked like he said it was a good thing to mine with a compac, while it can only be seen as an educational tool (in my personal opinion). Maybe i used the wrong wording in my post. That being said: if you want to learn how to mine, i don't think there's a difference between an old U2 or a compac. Neither of them will give you enough satoshi's to make a withdrawal from a pool, neither of them will have a significant chance of hitting a block, and both of them will have enough hashpower to join a pool and see some shares rolling in (altough you won't make enough to actually withdraw your profits). Just my personal opinion tough. Well a compac stick has a decent shot at a PPC block via solo mining. I know I hit a few with them. They also look pretty. They run silent when clocked to 150mhz Will you turn a profit most likely no. I don't feel like the math it is early but in my head quickly the chance of hitting 2 PPC blocks in a year with 1 stick is 10% . Can they turn a profit yes if you Hit a PPC block 2 times and you are running the stick on a work PC. ie no power cost. So a 10% to make a profit with free power is close. Now if you have free power they are much better then playing the 4 digit lottery offered in the usa. a 4 digit number in the usa gives you 5000 to 1 and costs 50 cents in some states. your cost would be 182-183 usd per year and you should hit it once every 27 years for a loss of 5000. your cost with a compac is 25-35 dollars if you run it at 8gb on a free power setup you have a 1,442,256 shot in 1 day or once every 3951 years you hit a block. collecting 600 x 12.5 = 7500 bucks you cost would be 25-35 dollars but 3951 years with normal luck is a long time. 100 sticks would be 2500-3500 usd if you could scatter them about all at free power you would hit a block in 39.51 years and collect 7500 for the 2500-3500 cash you paid for the sticks. this is actually not realistic because I froze diff at current levels
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September 15, 2016, 02:38:13 PM |
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Is it really worth the amount? I heard that most USB miners get burnt in 3 to 6 months and you will not be even able to recover the money you spent to buy it. Not a fan of buying any miners. But if you're doing it just for fun, go ahead.
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September 15, 2016, 02:45:40 PM |
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Not sure what you mean by "get burnt" - if you mean the thing overheats and fails, if you can do that to a Compac it's your own fault and if it's not your own fault I'll fix it for free as long as I still have parts around.
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in2tactics
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September 15, 2016, 07:15:02 PM |
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I have been using my 5x AntMiner U1 sticks for going on 2 and 1/2 years without issues.
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Current HW: 2x Apollo, 2x Apollo BTC, 2x Apollo II Retired HW: 3x 2PAC, 3x Moonlander 2, 2x AntMiner S7-LN, 5x AntMiner U1, 2x ASICMiner Block Erupter Cube, 4x AntMiner S3, 4x AntMiner S1, GAW Black Widow, and ZeusMiner Thunder X6
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