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January 05, 2017, 11:58:22 AM
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Taxes + tickets + ads revenues... All of this to pay executives and press relation managers high salaries?

But it is cheaper than other kind of transport like private taxi or something else but also it is good also for students as far as I know.

They pay much less than people that are non-students and sometimes free within the city but this is based on the city and country.

Obviously, there are people who want to give students free or near free transportation, right? But you can bet your little booties that there are people who DON'T want to give students free or near free transportation.

If I don't want to give students free transportation, then why should I be forced to pay it?

Let the people who want to give free transportation get together under a private organization/operation. Let them pool their money. Let the students that want free transportation apply for it from the private organization. Let the organization give them their free transportation from people who want to give it to them.

Get government's hand out of my pocket, taking my money for things I don't want. The whole thing boils down to government doing freebees so that they have an excuse to take more of my money.

Sometimes, government people are the ONLY people (besides the students) who want to give students free transportation. Let me be free from government. And let me support the things I want, while others can support the things they want.

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I think that the best scenario is to be registered in universities every 3-4 year and get that student ID and travel like a boss.

Its sad to think deeper that it is free for them but someone else should pay them without any profit.
And who will pay for such travel on a student ticket? Why do you think that the state should pay for a free trip, not to feed the homeless for example? Students need to do to earn money, and the duty of the state to help them.

Well if you ask me it will never be actually that easy. Schools won't send you out of the country just for the sake of. They go out of the country not just for vacation but to actually do something there, i don't know, study perhaps?
Study abroad is good, but how students can apply their knowledge in practice? Many countries simply do not have the same level of production and medicine to the returning students could implement what they learned abroad.
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January 05, 2017, 12:16:07 PM
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Students need to do to earn money, and the duty of the state to help them.

Students need to study, and contribute to the society by becoming good employees after their studies. Job and studying will not go together. If the students are forced to work, then their studies will suffer.

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January 05, 2017, 04:32:15 PM
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Students need to do to earn money, and the duty of the state to help them.

Students need to study, and contribute to the society by becoming good employees after their studies. Job and studying will not go together. If the students are forced to work, then their studies will suffer.

If you mean that students should not be forced to work while they are studying, then I guess you are right. They should not compromise their studies by working part-time for some thing. But then again, I know I can never blame them because of their needs.

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January 05, 2017, 06:52:30 PM
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Taxes + tickets + ads revenues... All of this to pay executives and press relation managers high salaries?

But it is cheaper than other kind of transport like private taxi or something else but also it is good also for students as far as I know.

They pay much less than people that are non-students and sometimes free within the city but this is based on the city and country.

Obviously, there are people who want to give students free or near free transportation, right? But you can bet your little booties that there are people who DON'T want to give students free or near free transportation.

If I don't want to give students free transportation, then why should I be forced to pay it?

Let the people who want to give free transportation get together under a private organization/operation. Let them pool their money. Let the students that want free transportation apply for it from the private organization. Let the organization give them their free transportation from people who want to give it to them.

Get government's hand out of my pocket, taking my money for things I don't want. The whole thing boils down to government doing freebees so that they have an excuse to take more of my money.

Sometimes, government people are the ONLY people (besides the students) who want to give students free transportation. Let me be free from government. And let me support the things I want, while others can support the things they want.

Cool

I think that the best scenario is to be registered in universities every 3-4 year and get that student ID and travel like a boss.

Its sad to think deeper that it is free for them but someone else should pay them without any profit.
And who will pay for such travel on a student ticket? Why do you think that the state should pay for a free trip, not to feed the homeless for example? Students need to do to earn money, and the duty of the state to help them.

I don't mean that you will get a business class on public transportation when you become student but because of the low budget that students face they have discount on the transportation and sometime free of charge on some services.

This is good because they can't cover all the expenses and as far as I know students take a large loan for their studies.
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January 05, 2017, 07:09:24 PM
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Taxes + tickets + ads revenues... All of this to pay executives and press relation managers high salaries?

But it is cheaper than other kind of transport like private taxi or something else but also it is good also for students as far as I know.

They pay much less than people that are non-students and sometimes free within the city but this is based on the city and country.

Obviously, there are people who want to give students free or near free transportation, right? But you can bet your little booties that there are people who DON'T want to give students free or near free transportation.

If I don't want to give students free transportation, then why should I be forced to pay it?

Let the people who want to give free transportation get together under a private organization/operation. Let them pool their money. Let the students that want free transportation apply for it from the private organization. Let the organization give them their free transportation from people who want to give it to them.

Get government's hand out of my pocket, taking my money for things I don't want. The whole thing boils down to government doing freebees so that they have an excuse to take more of my money.

Sometimes, government people are the ONLY people (besides the students) who want to give students free transportation. Let me be free from government. And let me support the things I want, while others can support the things they want.

Cool

I think that the best scenario is to be registered in universities every 3-4 year and get that student ID and travel like a boss.

Its sad to think deeper that it is free for them but someone else should pay them without any profit.
And who will pay for such travel on a student ticket? Why do you think that the state should pay for a free trip, not to feed the homeless for example? Students need to do to earn money, and the duty of the state to help them.

I don't mean that you will get a business class on public transportation when you become student but because of the low budget that students face they have discount on the transportation and sometime free of charge on some services.

This is good because they can't cover all the expenses and as far as I know students take a large loan for their studies.
I am not a supporter of the concept of free travel. If you are so concerned about the students raise them a scholarship and they themselves will have to decide whether to ride them or walk, and to make a more comfortable housing.
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January 06, 2017, 09:38:20 AM
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This is good because they can't cover all the expenses and as far as I know students take a large loan for their studies.

Taking large loans will also put pressure on them. They will be tempted to opt for low paying jobs, rather than trying for higher education. IMO, the government should provide a small handout, to the top 10% or 20% of the students.

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January 06, 2017, 10:33:22 AM
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This is good because they can't cover all the expenses and as far as I know students take a large loan for their studies.

Taking large loans will also put pressure on them. They will be tempted to opt for low paying jobs, rather than trying for higher education. IMO, the government should provide a small handout, to the top 10% or 20% of the students.
Interest on education loan is not so high that it is not a problem. The problem is to find first job. Then the state should help the students. Unfortunately a global trend to reduce the number of jobs that delay beginning.
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But There'd Be No Roads!





Along with the Myth of Authority – the idea that being ordered about by other people is legitimate so long as those people have given themselves titles or wear uniforms – there is this idea that absent government, we'd never have things like roads.

Much less plowed roads.

It snowed hard over the weekend and I got to thinking about it as I watched the government plow trucks do their thing.

They do it very expensively.

It seems "free," of course. The trucks rumble by and you aren't sent a bill . . . for that. But you're sent a bill – via the IRS, via your state-level IRS – for many other things, most of which (unlike roads and plow trucks to clear them when it snows) you probably don't use, don't want and – quite reasonably – would therefore rather not

Like, for instance, the estimated 10,000-plus nuclear warheads possessed by the federal government. Even if you're not a Libertarian, it probably strikes you that a few hundred of them are sufficient for "defense."

But we're all forced to pay for as many nukes – and carrier battle groups – as the federal government decides it wants, even though we have little if any use for such.

The "defense" budget amounts to around $610 billion annually – nearly three times what China spends (appx. $216 billion) and more than seven times what Putin-rearing-his-head spends ($84.5 billion).

If the U.S. "defense" budget were to be cut in half, we'd still be spending as much as the dreaded Chinese and 4-plus times as much as the Russian bogeyman. Surely, sufficient for "defense." Just imagine how much more money would be available for roads and plows to clear them. Things most of us probably would be willing to pay for and would pay for voluntarily . Because we could afford to do so.

If that is, we weren't forced to pay for so many other things – like "defense" spending that amounts to more than what Russia and China and the entire axis of evil spend together.

Oddly, many Americans (especially Republican ones) believe "our military" is mendicant, like the ragtag Colonial Army at Valley Forge. That "we" must rebuild it. Because of Putin, et al. Who – with his single operational Typhoon is going to challenge Uncle to nooklear combat, toe-to-toe, per Major Kong all those years ago.

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They pay for "rebuilding" (endlessly, excessively) the military – and lately, on top of this, the Homeland Security apparat. So there is less available to pay for things like roads and trucks to plow them.

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Taxes + tickets + ads revenues... All of this to pay executives and press relation managers high salaries?

The answer to that is basic because if it is free, then its susceptible to abuse and when that comes in, the efficiency will drop drastically.

Aside that, the money being raised has been subsidized already and that is why its a public transport the money now generated is just used to cover overheads and not any major thing as government is responsible for that.
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Taxes + tickets + ads revenues... All of this to pay executives and press relation managers high salaries?
If you live in a first world country then you may get some kind of government help to incentive the use of those services but in poorer countries you have to pay full price when you use public transportation.
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This is good because they can't cover all the expenses and as far as I know students take a large loan for their studies.

Taking large loans will also put pressure on them. They will be tempted to opt for low paying jobs, rather than trying for higher education. IMO, the government should provide a small handout, to the top 10% or 20% of the students.
Interest on education loan is not so high that it is not a problem. The problem is to find first job. Then the state should help the students. Unfortunately a global trend to reduce the number of jobs that delay beginning.

Even if they get good jobs, the students struggle to repay the educational loans. This is due to the steep rise in tuition fees. The government must make education free, and the problem will be resolved.

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January 10, 2017, 02:01:14 PM
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In some cities, the public transport is free. But this is usually compensated by special taxes and other things.
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In some cities, the public transport is free. But this is usually compensated by special taxes and other things.

What countries are these? I've never heard of a single place where transportation really is free. Well if anything I admire Singapore because their transportation is actually efficient not to mention cheap.

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When government says that it will do something "free" you expect that it will get expensive as hell, and pretty inefficient.

Same with the word "public".... it does not mean what you think it means.
"public" in this sense means that private interests are using government power to run their business.


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January 10, 2017, 04:51:56 PM
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In some cities, the public transport is free. But this is usually compensated by special taxes and other things.
I don't know those cities and countries where the transport was free. Transport is pretty expensive for him to pay. If the state subsidizes some social group, they just get the money in the account and paid by them for the transport.
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You could see one of these bikes whizzing past you soon in the United States.





For 10 years now, UPS has been adding eco-friendly vehicles to their Rolling Laboratory project, which boasts over 700 different vehicles around the world that have minimum to no harmful effects on the environment.

What started out as a way to be more fuel-efficient wound up solving the problem of delivering down narrow streets and in neighborhoods that don't allow trucks. In a number of European cities, like Hamburg, Germany, large trucks are banned during business hours as part of a 20-year plan to make the city greener and cleaner. UPS combats this by putting out its fleet of delivery tricycles, or the Cargo Cruiser, which has 77 cubic feet of cargo space, can move at 15 mph, and lasts for 21 miles.

While it become normal to see this in European nations, including Switzerland and England, the vehicles had not yet been introduced to the U.S. until now. In early December 2016, UPS debuted the first U.S. Cargo Cruisers in Portland, Oregon where the mayor, Charlie Hales, said,

"Portland, like all cities, is looking for ways to fight urban congestion and pollution. It's great when a company like UPS brings us a unique solution that will help us combat climate change and protect the environment."



Credit: UPS

This trial will help UPS determine the effectiveness and efficiency of using the bikes over traditional truck methods, and it's the prime starting place because Portland is often referred to as "Bike City USA." The city is known for its environmentally-friendly policies and liberal attitudes, making it the perfect debut spot.


Read more at http://www.trueactivist.com/ups-debuts-delivery-e-bike-in-u-s-for-eco-friendly-alternative-to-trucks/.


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You could see one of these bikes whizzing past you soon in the United States.





For 10 years now, UPS has been adding eco-friendly vehicles to their Rolling Laboratory project, which boasts over 700 different vehicles around the world that have minimum to no harmful effects on the environment.

What started out as a way to be more fuel-efficient wound up solving the problem of delivering down narrow streets and in neighborhoods that don't allow trucks. In a number of European cities, like Hamburg, Germany, large trucks are banned during business hours as part of a 20-year plan to make the city greener and cleaner. UPS combats this by putting out its fleet of delivery tricycles, or the Cargo Cruiser, which has 77 cubic feet of cargo space, can move at 15 mph, and lasts for 21 miles.

While it become normal to see this in European nations, including Switzerland and England, the vehicles had not yet been introduced to the U.S. until now. In early December 2016, UPS debuted the first U.S. Cargo Cruisers in Portland, Oregon where the mayor, Charlie Hales, said,

"Portland, like all cities, is looking for ways to fight urban congestion and pollution. It's great when a company like UPS brings us a unique solution that will help us combat climate change and protect the environment."



Credit: UPS

This trial will help UPS determine the effectiveness and efficiency of using the bikes over traditional truck methods, and it's the prime starting place because Portland is often referred to as "Bike City USA." The city is known for its environmentally-friendly policies and liberal attitudes, making it the perfect debut spot.


Read more at http://www.trueactivist.com/ups-debuts-delivery-e-bike-in-u-s-for-eco-friendly-alternative-to-trucks/.


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Bicycle transport is not an option. I hope that soon scientists will come up with a battery to be rapidly charged and keep power. It will be the end of the oil era. May be an increase in the number of terrorist acts is the response of Muslims to such attempts?
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You could see one of these bikes whizzing past you soon in the United States.





For 10 years now, UPS has been adding eco-friendly vehicles to their Rolling Laboratory project, which boasts over 700 different vehicles around the world that have minimum to no harmful effects on the environment.

What started out as a way to be more fuel-efficient wound up solving the problem of delivering down narrow streets and in neighborhoods that don't allow trucks. In a number of European cities, like Hamburg, Germany, large trucks are banned during business hours as part of a 20-year plan to make the city greener and cleaner. UPS combats this by putting out its fleet of delivery tricycles, or the Cargo Cruiser, which has 77 cubic feet of cargo space, can move at 15 mph, and lasts for 21 miles.

While it become normal to see this in European nations, including Switzerland and England, the vehicles had not yet been introduced to the U.S. until now. In early December 2016, UPS debuted the first U.S. Cargo Cruisers in Portland, Oregon where the mayor, Charlie Hales, said,

"Portland, like all cities, is looking for ways to fight urban congestion and pollution. It's great when a company like UPS brings us a unique solution that will help us combat climate change and protect the environment."



Credit: UPS

This trial will help UPS determine the effectiveness and efficiency of using the bikes over traditional truck methods, and it's the prime starting place because Portland is often referred to as "Bike City USA." The city is known for its environmentally-friendly policies and liberal attitudes, making it the perfect debut spot.


Read more at http://www.trueactivist.com/ups-debuts-delivery-e-bike-in-u-s-for-eco-friendly-alternative-to-trucks/.


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Bicycle transport is not an option. I hope that soon scientists will come up with a battery to be rapidly charged and keep power. It will be the end of the oil era. May be an increase in the number of terrorist acts is the response of Muslims to such attempts?

My point isn't the same as the point of the article. My point is that this is where all free transportation winds up. Socialism goes right along with it.

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January 10, 2017, 07:53:36 PM
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I do not believe in socialism. It's a tale that can not be implemented. Everything in the world costs money. To transport was free it was necessary that one it paid. State for these purposes, collects taxes. There's more like Trump who do not pay taxes. Therefore transport will not be free.
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January 11, 2017, 03:43:08 PM
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goverment cannot produces money that easy, imagine if all over the goverment products are free.
how goverment can take care of us if there is no budget, goverment's budget came from us

but in case there is overpriced public transport, i would like to give 'em critics

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