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September 14, 2016, 06:14:45 AM
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Zcash Cloud Mining by Zeropond

We are experienced Monero miners (over 300,000 XMR) and we are now setting up a datacenter with Zcash mining software preinstalled on every machine.

We've already written great mining software, but we don't have the funds to buy all the hardware.  So we are selling mining contracts now to buy hardware and set up a datacenter.  We are offering a better performing miner than anything on the market, and we'll keep a little margin for profit.

I'm a serial entrepreneur with several successful businesses https://linkedin.com/in/olsontim
My partner Salt has been mining since 2010.

We are a US-based company, and we'll use a datacenter in the Silicon Valley / San Francisco Bay Area.  We have proof of our Monero mining (see website) and we'll be posting references from people in the crypto community we've done business with.

Pre-register now for free:

buy.zeropond.com
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September 14, 2016, 06:59:52 AM
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I almost all cloud mining are scam, How can you proof your Monero claim.

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September 15, 2016, 06:27:13 AM
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I almost all cloud mining are scam, How can you proof your Monero claim.

That and whether he is actually Tim Olson.

The trouble is that the last posts made by this account before the sudden reappearance happen to be from before the forum hack. So all inactive accounts from that period which only now return to posting have to be assumed to not be under the control of their original owners.


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September 15, 2016, 06:29:42 AM
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We've published on our website a Monero View Key which proves our mining revenue.  I've copied it here for your convenience.  Ask me anything!

Code:
./simplewallet --generate-from-view-key

viewkey:ebad44aab8a7fd5170ee931f50fa11a6b70cb303cbaef267af7a9221d7b92502

address:43GoDcNYPaeLwA2QEQzyKHCqqfTMfsgNBQAeBMM8UoPsBqteKRFQ5JqUZFKydELKrAeet6ddnuV963o2ZFmuc8mE5WzofJe
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September 15, 2016, 06:36:44 AM
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Can you get someone reputable to vouch for your bitcointalk account being the real Tim Olson?


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September 15, 2016, 06:44:06 AM
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Just email me at tim@zeropond.com to verify.  Also, I've updated my LinkedIn to show Zeropond for some third-party proof https://linkedin.com/in/olsontim

And whoever downvoted my trust in the last hour... WHY?  Don't be a hater.  I've done nothing but try to post about our service.  Please, check our proofs.  Ask me anything!


Can you get someone reputable to vouch for your bitcointalk account being the real Tim Olson?
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September 15, 2016, 06:44:15 AM
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This user's password was reset recently.

This user's email address was changed recently.


with this state we need more proof. anyway where the detail about your coin Huh?

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September 15, 2016, 06:51:52 AM
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And whoever downvoted my trust in the last hour... WHY?  Don't be a hater.  I've done nothing but try to post about our service.  Please, check our proofs.  Ask me anything!

It was me and it was yesterday. It isn't about being a hater, it is about the fact that your account has been inactive since the middle of June 2014 and your sudden return is to promote a platform which will involve people sending you money.

Precautionary advice for other forum users until the facts can be established, that's all. Don't take it personally.

Can you get someone reputable to vouch for your bitcointalk account being the real Tim Olson?

Well can you?

That's my question for your request to ask you anything.


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September 15, 2016, 07:00:45 AM
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And whoever downvoted my trust in the last hour... WHY?  Don't be a hater.  I've done nothing but try to post about our service.  Please, check our proofs.  Ask me anything!

It was me and it was yesterday. It isn't about being a hater, it is about the fact that your account has been inactive since the middle of June 2014 and your sudden return is to promote a platform which will involve people sending you money.

Precautionary advice for other forum users until the facts can be established, that's all. Don't take it personally.

Can you get someone reputable to vouch for your bitcointalk account being the real Tim Olson?

Well can you?

That's my question for your request to ask you anything.


Obviously I'm not very active on this forum.  Let me ask around my real-life contacts to find someone who's on here...
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September 15, 2016, 07:08:09 AM
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Obviously I'm not very active on this forum.  Let me ask around my real-life contacts to find someone who's on here...

That's quite the understatement. FYI a respected industry figure's social media account vouching for you would likely do, there's no requirement for them to be forum members.


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September 15, 2016, 07:22:15 AM
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Obviously I'm not very active on this forum.  Let me ask around my real-life contacts to find someone who's on here...

That's quite the understatement. FYI a respected industry figure's social media account vouching for you would likely do, there's no requirement for them to be forum members.


We have a nice reference from @yvg1900 posted on our site, and I've emailed some other people IRL who might have accounts here…
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September 15, 2016, 07:31:44 AM
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We have a nice reference from @yvg1900 posted on our site, and I've emailed some other people IRL who might have accounts here…

A twitter account which has been inactive since 2015? Plus an equally dead forum account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=158050;sa=showPosts

BTW, zeropond.com leads me here:

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The term 'ZCash fishing rods' describing the site isn't exactly a good way to convince people you aren't setting up a scam of some kind.

Or even, and I hate to sound quite so melodramatic but these days we have to consider such things, a honeypot by the three-letter agencies.


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September 15, 2016, 07:51:25 AM
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We have a nice reference from @yvg1900 posted on our site, and I've emailed some other people IRL who might have accounts here…

A twitter account which has been inactive since 2015? Plus an equally dead forum account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=158050;sa=showPosts

BTW, zeropond.com leads me here:

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The term 'ZCash fishing rods' describing the site isn't exactly a good way to convince people you aren't setting up a scam of some kind.

Or even, and I hate to sound quite so melodramatic but these days we have to consider such things, a honeypot by the three-letter agencies.


Yah we didn't really put any work yet into the top-level site.  We've been working on the pool and faucet for the community, and we put some work into the splash page for mining.  See buy.zeropond.com.  Or come ask around the Zcash community about us: forum.z.cash and especially the Slack community zcashcommunity.slack.com

So are you saying that a good-looking website is not a scam?  Or that a bad-looking website must be a scam?  Or what exactly?
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September 15, 2016, 08:07:19 AM
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Or come ask around the Zcash community about us:
And you created that Zcash forum account when?

So are you saying that a good-looking website is not a scam?  Or that a bad-looking website must be a scam?  Or what exactly?

I'm making an observation which neither concerns how bad a website looks, nor how good. I explained that the term you use to describe your website might mean something entirely benign to you, mining in a 'pond' being compared to fishing, but it also could refer to suckering people in to capitalise on the zcash interest. It is an extremely careless use of language in relation to a potential scam minefield.

Understand this simple fact, the majority of 'cloud mining' operations are and have been nothing more than fractional mining/ponzi scams. Some have been so successful they have managed to steal tens of millions of dollars-worth of bitcoin. The surge of interest surrounding the imminent release of ZCash mainnet is just another opportunity for scammers to invest a little time and money in creating a supposedly legitimate setup of online personae in order to conduct their next scheme.

Add in the fact it involves truly anonymous cryptocurrency and you have the perfect storm for both the operation and ultimate exit for scam services.

That's why you need to accept that before anything else, you have to provide reasonable proof of who you are and that you are trusted by reputable people.


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September 15, 2016, 03:48:16 PM
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Or come ask around the Zcash community about us:
And you created that Zcash forum account when?

So are you saying that a good-looking website is not a scam?  Or that a bad-looking website must be a scam?  Or what exactly?

I'm making an observation which neither concerns how bad a website looks, nor how good. I explained that the term you use to describe your website might mean something entirely benign to you, mining in a 'pond' being compared to fishing, but it also could refer to suckering people in to capitalise on the zcash interest. It is an extremely careless use of language in relation to a potential scam minefield.

Understand this simple fact, the majority of 'cloud mining' operations are and have been nothing more than fractional mining/ponzi scams. Some have been so successful they have managed to steal tens of millions of dollars-worth of bitcoin. The surge of interest surrounding the imminent release of ZCash mainnet is just another opportunity for scammers to invest a little time and money in creating a supposedly legitimate setup of online personae in order to conduct their next scheme.

Add in the fact it involves truly anonymous cryptocurrency and you have the perfect storm for both the operation and ultimate exit for scam services.

That's why you need to accept that before anything else, you have to provide reasonable proof of who you are and that you are trusted by reputable people.


Sure, I accept that.  But no-one has tried to email me at tim@zeropond.com or tim@stacklife.com or tried to contact yvg1900 on Twitter via PM or anything like that.  So if you are not going to bother following up with proofs that I've offered, then you shouldn't continue slinging mud.
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September 15, 2016, 04:08:27 PM
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Sure, I accept that.  But no-one has tried to email me at tim@zeropond.com or tim@stacklife.com or tried to contact yvg1900 on Twitter via PM or anything like that.  So if you are not going to bother following up with proofs that I've offered, then you shouldn't continue slinging mud.

So you want me to prove you are legit?

No, that's not how this works.

Your account has been inactive for two years. Since then this forum experienced a hack of its passwords. The onus is on you to do the convincing, not require others to.


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September 15, 2016, 06:49:52 PM
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Obviously I'm not very active on this forum.  Let me ask around my real-life contacts to find someone who's on here...

That's quite the understatement. FYI a respected industry figure's social media account vouching for you would likely do, there's no requirement for them to be forum members.


Jump on the Zcash slack and ask Zooko Wilcox if I am for real.  Surely he qualifies as a luminary.  zcashcommunity.slack.com @zooko
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September 15, 2016, 10:07:51 PM
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I'm glad to vouch for Tim! This is indeed the real Tim Olson - the one I've known and worked with for several years. With his skills, he builds and delivers real, innovative solutions... and would have nothing to do with scams.
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I'm glad to vouch for Tim! This is indeed the real Tim Olson - the one I've known and worked with for several years. With his skills, he builds and delivers real, innovative solutions... and would have nothing to do with scams.
Says another formerly dormant account.
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Look, I get that the real Tim Olson is a stand-up guy and extremely skilled, I'm not doubting that. My issue concerns long-dead accounts suddenly resuming activity on this forum, talking about a cloud mining site they are setting up. I ask for someone to vouch for this TimOlson account and you send another long-dead forum account to do so!

'Cloud Mining' scams have stolen hundreds of millions of dollars-worth of bitcoin from investors during the time period your two accounts have been inactive. There is *every* motivation for scammers to do the same with ZCash.

Look, just get @zooko to tweet that the bitcointalk 'TimOlson' account is legit and you're good.

Yes, this may be tedious for you and you are probably used to people just appreciating the work you do and not questioning your trustworthiness, but this forum has been widely abused by very intelligent and devious fraudsters in numerous ways to con people out of huge sums of money.

The question is not whether Tim Olson is trustworthy, it is whether the 'TimOlson' bitcointalk account is actually Tim Olson.

That's all.



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September 18, 2016, 06:43:40 PM
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Connecting this thread to same zcash forum thread:


https://forum.z.cash/t/zcash-cloud-mining/1723/88


@cryptodevil: Thank you for your effort and service to community.
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