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September 19, 2016, 10:21:48 PM
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Upcoming Monero Hard Fork Lays Foundation For Complete Anonymity

Over the past few weeks, there has been a significant interest in Monero. Not only did the alternative currency gain significant value in recent weeks, but it also got accepted on various darknet markets. The developers have announced a hard fork, which will bring several changes to the ecosystem.

The Monero hard fork will go into effect on September 21st. Users and miners will need to update their clients on that date – or close to it at last – to ensure they are compatible with the changes. Although there is no spectacular change, there will be some exciting additions to the codebase.

Monero network blocks will enforce coinbase transactions to be split into new denominations. Doing so will prevent unmixable inputs from being created.  To put this into layman’s terms: everyone who is mining Monero will be able to remain completely...

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OHH so XMR wasn't already fully anon please tell me more, Hows that GUI coming?

And whats this? OP https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=755840.0



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September 20, 2016, 01:04:41 AM
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Your argument goes for any crypto including Monero. How is Monero exempt from everything? We know that the fatal bug was identified and also fixed by Monero devs. Are we to trust that all is well now? People are giving the devs the benefit of the doubt. So to say sdc is still broke or untrustworthy is bogus... it's no more broke than Monero after you guys fixed the same exact fatal flaw. May the best crypto win.
So true,
and not like someone who promotes his Physical Monero Coins could be a bit biased Wink

Obviously I can be biased, but I am also not ignorant to the facts. Calling a spade a spade, isn't being bias, it is being realistic without whining and crying on the forum because someone who broke the SDC project and announced it publicly and did the right thing.

Wow such a bad thing to sell/promote things on the interwebz...oh noes, I must be a bad bad person because I would consider doing such a thing.  Roll Eyes

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September 20, 2016, 01:19:46 AM
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Your still ignored smoothie no idea what your buzzing about mate.

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September 20, 2016, 01:26:17 AM
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As I mentioned in some other thread no other coin challenges Bitcoin in any serious or meaningful way than Monero after ETH messed up.

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September 20, 2016, 01:53:59 AM
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I doubt it just have a look at how it measures up to the supposed shit coin Shadowcash(SDC).
No wonder XMR fan boys wage a smear campaign on it this chart sort of speaks for its self! now go check the price difference  Roll Eyes




You forgot the following box:

- Crypto has been broken by another coin's developer (SDC check) ----> which implies your first item for SDC is false as it has been de-anonymized by Shen Noether.

- Accepted in DNMs (XMR check)

Two more very important features:

- RingCT - invented by Dr. Shen, the math boss who broke Shadowcash (XMR check)

- LMDB - implemented and optimized by hyc, the DB guru who invented it (XMR check)


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September 20, 2016, 01:56:18 AM
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As I mentioned in some other thread no other coin challenges Bitcoin in any serious or meaningful way than Monero after ETH messed up.
No doubt of that Bitcoin to me is the official reserve currency of crypto It's market cap will continue steady growth, and a select amount of alternative currencies will also have success, ones with use.
But nothing is going to have a bigger market cap then BTC i believe.

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I doubt it just have a look at how it measures up to the supposed shit coin Shadowcash(SDC).
No wonder XMR fan boys wage a smear campaign on it this chart sort of speaks for its self! now go check the price difference  Roll Eyes




You forgot the following box:

- Crypto has been broken by another coin's developer (SDC check) ----> which implies your first item for SDC is false as it has been de-anonymized by Shen Noether.

- Accepted in DNMs (XMR check)

Two more very important features:

- RingCT - invented by Dr. Shen, the math boss who broke Shadowcash (XMR check)

- LMDB - ported and optimized by hyc, the DB guru who invented it (XMR check)
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[repetitive, non-responsive deflection]


No comment on RingCT?

No comment on LMDB?

Based on that, I guess you are just a script kiddie moonchild.


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[repetitive, non-responsive deflection]


No comment on RingCT?

No comment on LMDB?

Based on that, I guess you are just a script kiddie moonchild.
Everybody knows where SDC got the ring signatures because they were first to build it on Bitcoin base, they built it from scratch unlike MNR who purely cloned it, and they still don't even have a GUI!

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September 20, 2016, 02:58:14 AM
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I doubt it just have a look at how it measures up to the supposed shit coin Shadowcash(SDC).
No wonder XMR fan boys wage a smear campaign on it this chart sort of speaks for its self! now go check the price difference  Roll Eyes




You forgot the following box:

- Crypto has been broken by another coin's developer (SDC check) ----> which implies your first item for SDC is false as it has been de-anonymized by Shen Noether.

- Accepted in DNMs (XMR check)

Two more very important features:

- RingCT - invented by Dr. Shen, the math boss who broke Shadowcash (XMR check)

- LMDB - implemented and optimized by hyc, the DB guru who invented it (XMR check)

One last one to add to the list once it is finished/tested:

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More importantly... the TOPIC.

Or ? a debate on which ANON coin is better ?

Lets review..
We have various teams here of groups of bag holders pushing their own separate coin.
That is the real context here.
That taints and colors all the discussions drastically.

So if i can try and join in here with what you are ACTUALLY talking about right now..
Does the fact that some of you are claiming Monero's ANON tech is sub-par
really affect the ability of it to "become the next bitcoin" ?

Shouldn't the discussion be steered towards more like my "Why Anon Coins will not work" topic ?
Where the feature itself was debated on being good or bad.

Or is this topic so full of competing anon coin shill groups you are side stepping that glaring omission ?

No offense to any of your projects guys but i don't see ANY coin being ANON featured based
as being able to beat Bitcoin or rival it in the slightest.
And so far.. this has not happened either.
So debating on which ANON coin is better seems utterly pointless to me  Cheesy

But hey.. have at 'er.
You 20 guys can as always loiter around here 24/7 all year round bickering over the attention of the 100 greedy teens hoping to make money off what ever one is most popular at Poloniex.

Have fun with the High School Crypto Popularity battle Investards.
Just realize kidiots that ADULTS with LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY are playing you like a violin.
Imagine having a few million to throw around then imagine you with your 2 or 3 BTC's on Bittrex.
Who controls what now ?

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It looks really dope for me, the price is getting huge.
But we probably won't see the phenomenon of btc- it was first crypto, bear in mind because people won't get over-excited about it,
like it was with bitcoins.
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[repetitive, non-responsive deflection]


No comment on RingCT?

No comment on LMDB?

Based on that, I guess you are just a script kiddie moonchild.
Everybody knows where SDC got the ring signatures because they were first to build it on Bitcoin base, they built it from scratch unlike MNR who purely cloned it, and they still don't even have a GUI!

So you don't know the difference between plain vanilla ring signatures and RingCT.

RingCT, FYI, not only hides both the sender/recipient but the amount of the transaction as well.

Still no comment on LMDB?

lol get gud noob   Cheesy


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It looks really dope for me, the price is getting huge.
But we probably won't see the phenomenon of btc- it was first crypto, bear in mind because people won't get over-excited about it,
like it was with bitcoins.


That is like saying if a new coin comes along that is a revolutionary innovation over Bitcoin the price will not increase much and people will not get too excited etc.

I call bullshit !

The problem staring you all in the face is Monero (or any ANON coin made *so far*)
Is not good enough to dethrone Bitcoin.. hence the luke warm reaction from the Altcoin scene.

Truth is here guys if we did see a clear cut winner we would in fact see an explosion of interest.
Prime Coin comes to mind.. it exploded in popularity when it came out way back.
But later we all seen the tech-gimmick/feature it has was not as useful as we first perceived.

I see excuse makers.
One that has been popping up a lot lately is "Bitcoin is the first coin"
There may be some truth to that but when you guys keep saying it defending Monero etc it comes across as bullshit.

Better is better.
If a new coin comes along that is better it WILL make a big stink.
Regardless of Bitcoin being the first.

People made new phones all the time like the Motorola RAZER etc
They would make *some* changes then roll out another model..
Getting a mediocre luke warm reaction from the public.
THEN ?
Touch Screen based Phones came out like the iPhone then Android etc.

Bitcoin is the Moto RAZER
We have not seen the iPHONE yet !

And Monero and it's tiring ANON gimmick is not Android  Roll Eyes

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can replace and take over bitcoin
in the first number one crypto coin
must follow requirement, the big community, the big volume trancaction , and all exchanger support trade monero

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It looks really dope for me, the price is getting huge.
But we probably won't see the phenomenon of btc- it was first crypto, bear in mind because people won't get over-excited about it,
like it was with bitcoins.


That is like saying if a new coin comes along that is a revolutionary innovation over Bitcoin the price will not increase much and people will not get too excited etc.

I call bullshit !

The problem staring you all in the face is Monero (or any ANON coin made *so far*)
Is not good enough to dethrone Bitcoin.. hence the luke warm reaction from the Altcoin scene.

Truth is here guys if we did see a clear cut winner we would in fact see an explosion of interest.
Prime Coin comes to mind.. it exploded in popularity when it came out way back.
But later we all seen the tech-gimmick/feature it has was not as useful as we first perceived.

I see excuse makers.
One that has been popping up a lot lately is "Bitcoin is the first coin"
There may be some truth to that but when you guys keep saying it defending Monero etc it comes across as bullshit.

Better is better.
If a new coin comes along that is better it WILL make a big stink.
Regardless of Bitcoin being the first.

People made new phones all the time like the Motorola RAZER etc
They would make *some* changes then roll out another model..
Getting a mediocre luke warm reaction from the public.
THEN ?
Touch Screen based Phones came out like the iPhone then Android etc.

Bitcoin is the Moto RAZER
We have not seen the iPHONE yet !

And Monero and it's tiring ANON gimmick is not Android  Roll Eyes
+1 Any one who thinks any coin will have a larger market cap then the king BTC is mistaken, But 2nd is prime for the picking ETH is a mess.

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September 20, 2016, 11:12:21 AM
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+1 Any one who thinks any coin will have a larger market cap then the king BTC is mistaken, But 2nd is prime for the picking ETH is a mess.

It is not about market cap.  It is about usage as a currency to be free.
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September 20, 2016, 04:00:47 PM
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I doubt it just have a look at how it measures up to the supposed shit coin Shadowcash(SDC).
No wonder XMR fan boys wage a smear campaign on it this chart sort of speaks for its self! now go check the price difference  Roll Eyes




You forgot the following box:

- Crypto has been broken by another coin's developer (SDC check) ----> which implies your first item for SDC is false as it has been de-anonymized by Shen Noether.

- Accepted in DNMs (XMR check)

Two more very important features:

- RingCT - invented by Dr. Shen, the math boss who broke Shadowcash (XMR check)

- LMDB - implemented and optimized by hyc, the DB guru who invented it (XMR check)

One last one to add to the list once it is finished/tested:

Kovri (I2P router)  Cool

One more!

- dynamic block size - market based (XMR check)


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September 20, 2016, 04:04:44 PM
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Monero broke past 0.018 now.

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September 20, 2016, 08:04:25 PM
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Monero broke past 0.018 now.
Yeah can't imagine what SDC price will do with that type of volume soon.

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