bfl a scam?

[nathanrees19]

If you haven't pulled your money by now, it is probably already too late....

lol

Is there any evidence that they have stopped refunding?

[mezzomix]

For me there is. I requested my refund weeks ago and received no answer and no refund. Same with bASIC.

[m3sSh3aD]

THE OWNER's ARE KNOWN CROOKS, JOSH TALKS OUT OF HIS ARSE SO MUCH HE'S CONVINCED ITS HIS MOUTH AND NOW THEY 'RELEASE' (<-- Bad choice of word) A PRODUCT THAT ONLY THE BEST ENGINEERS CAN PRODUCE ON 28NM WHILE PEOPLE CAN STILL NOT PURCHASE ANY OF THE 'OLD' PRODUCTS AND PEOPLE LIKE ME STILL WAITING 14 MONTHS DOWN THE LINE FOR THERE PRODUCT! THEY DONT HAVE THE ABILITY TO PRODUCE THE MONARCH, NEVERMIND GET PRODUCT OUT FOR DEC! THEY'VE HAD 3 PRODUCTS AND ALL HAVE MISSED THERE DEAD LINE BY LONG DISTANCES, WHY WOULD YOU THINK A 28NM PART WOULD BE DIFFERENT? OR EVEN BETTER?

DON'T TRUST BFL WITH ANYTHING! THEY BLOCK/DELETE THREADS FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT SIGNED IN SO THE UNSUSPECTING PEOPLE THINK THERE'S NO ISSUE AND PEOPLE WHO WRITE THE STUFF ARE USUALLY LOGGED IN ANYWAYS AND DONT SEE THAT THERE THREADS AND POSTS ARE BEING BLOCKED FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC!

COWBOYS TO THE EXTREME! BE WARNED! THEY WILL SCREW YOU OVER!

[Bicknellski]

If you haven't pulled your money by now, it is probably already too late....

lol

Is there any evidence that they have stopped refunding?

Yes there is ample evidence of this. Read the forums.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

When a company provides refunds, then it's hardly a scam. Even a couple of my friends got bored of waiting and got their refunds approx 1 week ago.

This is a very naive argument: a good scam will always accept to pay / refund customers as long as the benefits outweights the costs: they earn more by saving time and getting more orders than it costs to pay back unhappy customers, until the trends of orders vs withdrawals reverses.
Madoff has been paying interests and allowing withdrawals until the trend of deposits VS withdrawals reversed.
Mybitcoin has been working as a normal wallet, allowing payments and withdrawals, until the trend of deposits VS withdrawals reversed.

Even pirate paid for almost a year, brainwashing people into trolling his detractors.

Even Zhou Tong's relic collector paid back the $50K he stole.

Bottom line, only consider BFL a scam iff they introduce a lower nm-based miner prior to clearing out their backlog, coupled with changing the delivery date of said miner days after garnering millions from such a sale based on a photoshopped image accompanied with specs that don't make sense. Since such a scenario is improbable, rest assure that even if such where to come to fruition, one will most definitely be assured refund protection when using PayPal or their credit card.

Ergo, lock the thread. Nothing more to see here.

[m3sSh3aD]

Bar the fact a lot of people want to tell the truth about NFL and there underhand tactics! Who makes you Mr awesome and can get what you want around here? You sound a lot like josh.... just saying....

You speak as if your the o my one with the right idea/impression and then continue to be arrogant and demand an admi.
N to do your willing.

Well I say no! Keep this thread alive as bfl is one huge ponzi scheme. The more posts stating this the less people will fall for there b$

P.S all my opinion but you came across a bit of a dick imho

[CrashX]

It's either an intentional scam or will end up being one because of the delusion/incompetence of the people running it.

There's no such thing as an unintentional scam. The concept is absurd.

What you're thinking of is a fuckup.

BFL Pundit at work...


even promoting the so Call BFL SINGLE at this avatar. Fake they failed/never made that one.

[m3sSh3aD]

It's either an intentional scam or will end up being one because of the delusion/incompetence of the people running it.

There's no such thing as an unintentional scam. The concept is absurd.

What you're thinking of is a fuckup.

BFL Pundit at work...


even promoting the so Call BFL SINGLE at this avatar. Fake they failed/never made that one.

Too easy spot them, its not even fun. There just payed/delusional/can't afford lose faith people and I feel a little sorry as they have no soul haha.

Buttfuckers I call them

[tescomatty]

if anyone has any proof/evidence either way on whether or not bfl is a scam, id be interested since im thinking of ordering

Not a scam, but gamble. You may mine at a loss or get nice profit based on when house (BFL) ships your preorder

[tearfereon]

if anyone has any proof/evidence either way on whether or not bfl is a scam, id be interested since im thinking of ordering

Not a scam, but gamble. You may mine at a loss or get nice profit based on when house (BFL) ships your preorder

Does BFL have a gambling licence then 

[elux]

if anyone has any proof/evidence either way on whether or not bfl is a scam, id be interested since im thinking of ordering

Not a scam, but gamble. You may mine at a loss or get nice profit based on when house (BFL) ships your preorder

So the fuck what? Some people made money of pirateat40 too, you know...

That doesn't make BTCST a "gamble" instead of a scam.

In criminal law, fraud is intentional deception made for personal gain or to damage another individual; the related adjective is fraudulent, and verb is defraud.

Fraud is a crime and a civil tort at common law, though the specific criminal law definition varies by legal jurisdiction. Defrauding people or entities of money or valuables is a common purpose of fraud.

Their entire business is based on soliciting money using false and misleading statements that they should or indeed must have have known, in advance, to be false.

In the very best of circumstances, they are "merely" criminally incompetent.

[m3sSh3aD]

if anyone has any proof/evidence either way on whether or not bfl is a scam, id be interested since im thinking of ordering

Not a scam, but gamble. You may mine at a loss or get nice profit based on when house (BFL) ships your preorder

So the fuck what? Some people made money of pirateat40 too, you know...

That doesn't make BTCST a "gamble" instead of a scam.

In criminal law, fraud is intentional deception made for personal gain or to damage another individual; the related adjective is fraudulent, and verb is defraud.

Fraud is a crime and a civil tort at common law, though the specific criminal law definition varies by legal jurisdiction. Defrauding people or entities of money or valuables is a common purpose of fraud.

Their entire business is based on soliciting money using false and misleading statements that they should or indeed must have have known, in advance, to be false.

In the very best of circumstances, they are "merely" criminally incompetent.

+1

[Bicknellski]

1. Bets not paid.
2. Lied about shipping dates to boost sales.
3. Lied about product readiness to boost sales.
4. No refund policies counter to FTC regulations.
5. Tax evasion accusations.
6. FCC testing was lied about.
7. Over promised on specifications for units to boost sales and then misrepresented the facts in the forums.
8. Countless claims of false advertizing laid out in numerous threads.
9. Accusations of backdoor shipments not according to shipping timelines stipulated to customers.
10. Accusations of mining with units that should be slated for customers.
11. Accusations of using pre-order funds for development against their claims never to do that.
12. Josh Zerlan has lied on numerous occasions on this forum, BFL forum about people, BFL products as well as their competition.

There are more I guess.

Feel free to read all the accusations yourself many are here in the section of the forum.

As for evidence... that is stipulated in the accusations.

BFL = Shady.

[ElectricMucus]

Bumping

I'm requesting official scammer tagging of all forum accounts associated to BFL once they are convicted.

[BitcoinHeroes]

Bumping

I'm requesting official scammer tagging of all forum accounts associated to BFL once they are convicted.

The scammer tags were actually retired several years ago. We have switched to the trust system so people must give a (potential) scammer negative trust. More or less all of BFL's account have massive amounts of negative trust