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January 27, 2017, 03:40:23 PM
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There is no need for us to avoid death penalty if we are a law abiding citizen , The Death Penalty Law is literally for us because it threatened criminals not to commit a crime , But if they really going to pursue the death penalty they just have to make sure that no innocent people will be convicted.
I am one of those who believes in the administration of President Duterte, if he will push death penalty I will 100 % support him.
It is right that we should give justice for the victim especially rape and murder victim. If I were to ask, they should not remove the death penalty because of that a lot of people did not afraid of doing a crime.
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There is no need for us to avoid death penalty if we are a law abiding citizen , The Death Penalty Law is literally for us because it threatened criminals not to commit a crime , But if they really going to pursue the death penalty they just have to make sure that no innocent people will be convicted.
I am one of those who believes in the administration of President Duterte, if he will push death penalty I will 100 % support him.
It is right that we should give justice for the victim especially rape and murder victim. If I were to ask, they should not remove the death penalty because of that a lot of people did not afraid of doing a crime.

But then Duterte must also make sure that justice is delivered on time. If a court judgement lags on for 20 or 30 years, then it is akin to punishing the victim. Unfortunately, this is very common in third world nations.

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January 30, 2017, 10:18:32 PM
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I see that a lot of people are talking about the Philippines and their President. So how exactly is he achieving this. Is this the guy who's like killing them, even if they come from another country? If so it would be interesting how such tactic turn out.
No he dont like killings watch one of his video when he said about killings he needs to do it to save his nation all he wants is PEACE in his country and to achieve you need ORDER to fix the country and DEVELOPED in the near future. His mind is far from ordinary person his vision is too wide too many plans and v ery unpredictable moves. But at the end of the day he makes the dream becomes reality.

He who supports prohibition is fascist corrupt scum, always and everywhere.  Ignorance is no excuse. 

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January 31, 2017, 05:14:21 AM
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I see that a lot of people are talking about the Philippines and their President. So how exactly is he achieving this. Is this the guy who's like killing them, even if they come from another country? If so it would be interesting how such tactic turn out.
No he dont like killings watch one of his video when he said about killings he needs to do it to save his nation all he wants is PEACE in his country and to achieve you need ORDER to fix the country and DEVELOPED in the near future. His mind is far from ordinary person his vision is too wide too many plans and v ery unpredictable moves. But at the end of the day he makes the dream becomes reality.

He who supports prohibition is fascist corrupt scum, always and everywhere.  Ignorance is no excuse. 

Drugs are too dangerous to put in the hands of criminals. 

Sometimes, who are those supporting are the one who have the main idea and sometimes he/she is the source of drug dealers. Drugs is very dangerous if misused, sometimes we are not well practice about this drugs, sometimes, drugs user abuses themselves, they overuses drugs, and lead them to be addicted with it.
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January 31, 2017, 01:39:36 PM
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As a Filipino I find it difficult to truly appreciate President Duterte. Yes, addiction on drugs should be stopped and discipline is a must but killing people immediately is immoral. We are cleansing our nation but we also affect other people the good ones, some police officers killed innocent children for being inaccurate in shooting the drug user and that's totally wrong. I think we should think of better ways than killing directly.
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January 31, 2017, 07:29:24 PM
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The president is often gets misunderstood by most of the people and it seems these people are also getting astounded because of the president's unpredictable moves and plan . Anyway regarding to his war on drugs, for sure people are having a different perception because of his war on drugs although it is only supposed to cleanse and fight agains those drug traffickers and drug lords inside the country but still some authorized persons which is usually the police are being abusive on their authority for example the last issue which they kidnapped a korean national and extort him and eventually killed him . This war on drugs isn't became a good idea in my opinion because of these instances I am not against to the law which is implement by duterte administration but sometimes it only results to the authorities being abusive . If only they can also punish those people abusive people and sentence them to death then that would be nice and that would be totally considered as cleansing . Don't mind what the CHR's reaction will be .
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February 01, 2017, 03:58:10 AM
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As a Filipino I find it difficult to truly appreciate President Duterte. Yes, addiction on drugs should be stopped and discipline is a must but killing people immediately is immoral. We are cleansing our nation but we also affect other people the good ones, some police officers killed innocent children for being inaccurate in shooting the drug user and that's totally wrong. I think we should think of better ways than killing directly.

Till now, I think around 6,000 people were shot dead by the vigilante squads and the police. There is no doubt that at least 20% or 30% of them were innocent civilians who didn't had any connection with the drug business.

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February 01, 2017, 03:59:22 AM
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As a Filipino I find it difficult to truly appreciate President Duterte. Yes, addiction on drugs should be stopped and discipline is a must but killing people immediately is immoral. We are cleansing our nation but we also affect other people the good ones, some police officers killed innocent children for being inaccurate in shooting the drug user and that's totally wrong. I think we should think of better ways than killing directly.
In terms of cleansing the immorality of the entire human race, I agree that we shouldn't do  bad things in order to correct bad deeds. However, we shouldn't let that bad source to influenced other good ones. Hence, we should stop that source of bad deeds , and I do believe, persident Duterte is doing what must be done, he's just doing what he believe will stop that bad source to influence those good ones.
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As a Filipino I find it difficult to truly appreciate President Duterte. Yes, addiction on drugs should be stopped and discipline is a must but killing people immediately is immoral. We are cleansing our nation but we also affect other people the good ones, some police officers killed innocent children for being inaccurate in shooting the drug user and that's totally wrong. I think we should think of better ways than killing directly.

Till now, I think around 6,000 people were shot dead by the vigilante squads and the police. There is no doubt that at least 20% or 30% of them were innocent civilians who didn't had any connection with the drug business.
Cheesy Again what is your source that 6000 people dead by war on drugs and the 20-30% is innocent? From the bias report right.?If 30% you know that innocent and not connected to drugs the total innocence killed is 1800 peoples.Please dont spread fake news.
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As a Filipino I find it difficult to truly appreciate President Duterte. Yes, addiction on drugs should be stopped and discipline is a must but killing people immediately is immoral. We are cleansing our nation but we also affect other people the good ones, some police officers killed innocent children for being inaccurate in shooting the drug user and that's totally wrong. I think we should think of better ways than killing directly.

Till now, I think around 6,000 people were shot dead by the vigilante squads and the police. There is no doubt that at least 20% or 30% of them were innocent civilians who didn't had any connection with the drug business.
Cheesy Again what is your source that 6000 people dead by war on drugs and the 20-30% is innocent? From the bias report right.?If 30% you know that innocent and not connected to drugs the total innocence killed is 1800 peoples.Please dont spread fake news.

We cannot ignore but take into consideration that the possibility of a mistaken identity might happen.  And besides the person is innocent unless proven guilty by judiciary trial. We have judiciary system here that process cases.  Unless people do not believe in this system then they should abolish it . 
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As a Filipino I find it difficult to truly appreciate President Duterte. Yes, addiction on drugs should be stopped and discipline is a must but killing people immediately is immoral. We are cleansing our nation but we also affect other people the good ones, some police officers killed innocent children for being inaccurate in shooting the drug user and that's totally wrong. I think we should think of better ways than killing directly.

Till now, I think around 6,000 people were shot dead by the vigilante squads and the police. There is no doubt that at least 20% or 30% of them were innocent civilians who didn't had any connection with the drug business.
Cheesy Again what is your source that 6000 people dead by war on drugs and the 20-30% is innocent? From the bias report right.?If 30% you know that innocent and not connected to drugs the total innocence killed is 1800 peoples.Please dont spread fake news.
I can assume that these studies were built on communication with relatives of the victims of criminals. Give me somebody from relatives who recognize that a member of their family was a criminal.
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This is the reason why i salute duterte. He is a political genius as experts says. By his words there were corresponding actions. However i still dont believe that its him who commits edjk here it was still those syndicate them selves
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This is the reason why i salute duterte. He is a political genius as experts says. By his words there were corresponding actions. However i still dont believe that its him who commits edjk here it was still those syndicate them selves
One thing that I love President Duterte is that he really cares about his nation, even all corrupt politics will hate him he doesn't care, he also receives a lot of death threat almost everyday. But he is willing to die for his country, this is a wake up call in the Philippines that if you want to  have a big change we have to support Duterte and change our self as well, don't just watch.
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This is the reason why i salute duterte. He is a political genius as experts says. By his words there were corresponding actions. However i still dont believe that its him who commits edjk here it was still those syndicate them selves
One thing that I love President Duterte is that he really cares about his nation, even all corrupt politics will hate him he doesn't care, he also receives a lot of death threat almost everyday. But he is willing to die for his country, this is a wake up call in the Philippines that if you want to  have a big change we have to support Duterte and change our self as well, don't just watch.

This is the one reason why Philippines are going to go on its highest peak, we should follow our own President, if we want to change our economy. There a big change if we follow our president, we know that President Duterte can change Philippines. First on drugs, a lot of drug dealers and drug addicts have been arrested. New rules, regulations and laws are implemented to make Philippines to change.
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February 02, 2017, 04:47:30 PM
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I see that a lot of people are talking about the Philippines and their President. So how exactly is he achieving this. Is this the guy who's like killing them, even if they come from another country? If so it would be interesting how such tactic turn out.
No he dont like killings watch one of his video when he said about killings he needs to do it to save his nation all he wants is PEACE in his country and to achieve you need ORDER to fix the country and DEVELOPED in the near future. His mind is far from ordinary person his vision is too wide too many plans and v ery unpredictable moves. But at the end of the day he makes the dream becomes reality.

He who supports prohibition is fascist corrupt scum, always and everywhere.  Ignorance is no excuse. 

Drugs are too dangerous to put in the hands of criminals. 

Sometimes, who are those supporting are the one who have the main idea and sometimes he/she is the source of drug dealers. Drugs is very dangerous if misused, sometimes we are not well practice about this drugs, sometimes, drugs user abuses themselves, they overuses drugs, and lead them to be addicted with it.

Absolutely true.  Instead of prohibition and so-called profiteering from these dangers, we should be pursuing education and treatment.  Prohibition says "we don't care about you - we just want to pretend we are profiting from your troubles by institutionalizing fascism".  Don't put up with it.  Speak out against it and pursue the rational course suggested by religious leaders, law enforcement, and really anybody who is literate:  end drug prohibition. 

 

 

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February 03, 2017, 03:34:08 AM
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As a Filipino I find it difficult to truly appreciate President Duterte. Yes, addiction on drugs should be stopped and discipline is a must but killing people immediately is immoral. We are cleansing our nation but we also affect other people the good ones, some police officers killed innocent children for being inaccurate in shooting the drug user and that's totally wrong. I think we should think of better ways than killing directly.

Till now, I think around 6,000 people were shot dead by the vigilante squads and the police. There is no doubt that at least 20% or 30% of them were innocent civilians who didn't had any connection with the drug business.
Cheesy Again what is your source that 6000 people dead by war on drugs and the 20-30% is innocent? From the bias report right.?If 30% you know that innocent and not connected to drugs the total innocence killed is 1800 peoples.Please dont spread fake news.
I can assume that these studies were built on communication with relatives of the victims of criminals. Give me somebody from relatives who recognize that a member of their family was a criminal.

No. I was not referring to such interviews. There were a few cases where the victim was killed just because of some personal vendetta with the members of the vigilante squads. Only a few such cases were uncovered, but many remain hidden.

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February 03, 2017, 03:37:40 PM
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As a Filipino I find it difficult to truly appreciate President Duterte. Yes, addiction on drugs should be stopped and discipline is a must but killing people immediately is immoral. We are cleansing our nation but we also affect other people the good ones, some police officers killed innocent children for being inaccurate in shooting the drug user and that's totally wrong. I think we should think of better ways than killing directly.

Till now, I think around 6,000 people were shot dead by the vigilante squads and the police. There is no doubt that at least 20% or 30% of them were innocent civilians who didn't had any connection with the drug business.
Cheesy Again what is your source that 6000 people dead by war on drugs and the 20-30% is innocent? From the bias report right.?If 30% you know that innocent and not connected to drugs the total innocence killed is 1800 peoples.Please dont spread fake news.
I can assume that these studies were built on communication with relatives of the victims of criminals. Give me somebody from relatives who recognize that a member of their family was a criminal.

No. I was not referring to such interviews. There were a few cases where the victim was killed just because of some personal vendetta with the members of the vigilante squads. Only a few such cases were uncovered, but many remain hidden.
I am sure that under the guise of the drug war in the Philippines is a civil war. In such conflicts is always a lot of personal. And in this civil war there is always a place for vendetta. You agree with that?
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February 03, 2017, 03:47:33 PM
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As a Filipino I find it difficult to truly appreciate President Duterte. Yes, addiction on drugs should be stopped and discipline is a must but killing people immediately is immoral. We are cleansing our nation but we also affect other people the good ones, some police officers killed innocent children for being inaccurate in shooting the drug user and that's totally wrong. I think we should think of better ways than killing directly.

Till now, I think around 6,000 people were shot dead by the vigilante squads and the police. There is no doubt that at least 20% or 30% of them were innocent civilians who didn't had any connection with the drug business.
Cheesy Again what is your source that 6000 people dead by war on drugs and the 20-30% is innocent? From the bias report right.?If 30% you know that innocent and not connected to drugs the total innocence killed is 1800 peoples.Please dont spread fake news.
I can assume that these studies were built on communication with relatives of the victims of criminals. Give me somebody from relatives who recognize that a member of their family was a criminal.

No. I was not referring to such interviews. There were a few cases where the victim was killed just because of some personal vendetta with the members of the vigilante squads. Only a few such cases were uncovered, but many remain hidden.
I am sure that under the guise of the drug war in the Philippines is a civil war. In such conflicts is always a lot of personal. And in this civil war there is always a place for vendetta. You agree with that?

vendetta or whatever it is, its their own fight. the government could care less to it. there are far worse that is happening in some other countries like dropping a bomb to a village than killing the merciless drug personalities. they'd be lucky they died and not in the hands of several felons inside.









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February 03, 2017, 03:56:17 PM
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As a Filipino I find it difficult to truly appreciate President Duterte. Yes, addiction on drugs should be stopped and discipline is a must but killing people immediately is immoral. We are cleansing our nation but we also affect other people the good ones, some police officers killed innocent children for being inaccurate in shooting the drug user and that's totally wrong. I think we should think of better ways than killing directly.

Till now, I think around 6,000 people were shot dead by the vigilante squads and the police. There is no doubt that at least 20% or 30% of them were innocent civilians who didn't had any connection with the drug business.
Cheesy Again what is your source that 6000 people dead by war on drugs and the 20-30% is innocent? From the bias report right.?If 30% you know that innocent and not connected to drugs the total innocence killed is 1800 peoples.Please dont spread fake news.
I can assume that these studies were built on communication with relatives of the victims of criminals. Give me somebody from relatives who recognize that a member of their family was a criminal.

No. I was not referring to such interviews. There were a few cases where the victim was killed just because of some personal vendetta with the members of the vigilante squads. Only a few such cases were uncovered, but many remain hidden.
I am sure that under the guise of the drug war in the Philippines is a civil war. In such conflicts is always a lot of personal. And in this civil war there is always a place for vendetta. You agree with that?

vendetta or whatever it is, its their own fight. the government could care less to it. there are far worse that is happening in some other countries like dropping a bomb to a village than killing the merciless drug personalities. they'd be lucky they died and not in the hands of several felons inside.
When you talk about the bombs dropped on civilians in Syria? Do Putin and Assad are tyrants who deserve death, but do not forget that Duterte also wants to be friends with Putin. For me it means that it is the same.
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February 09, 2017, 05:04:00 AM
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I think its good that the Philippines is getting a different treatment this time. I believe change is inevitable and the people need to feel this to progress. A lot more will happen and the country needs to be prepared. Some might find it overwhelming, scary even but it's better than no change at all.
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