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October 29, 2016, 06:27:50 AM
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i could be the most skillest mofo in the world and Lady Luck would still be "you know what. fuck this guy. he gonna lose."

i could could sit down on a table with my years of experience and my stoniest poker face and Luck will still call my bluff and fuck me up.

i coulda mastered the ultimate flick wrist to roll dice in craps in my favor and Luck woulda still snap my wrist in to two, crap in it and slap me with the face with it.

exaggeration aside, experience does matter but you also have to remember that experience is not always applicable in some areas of gambling. but if experience taught me something its 1. don't cheat twice 2. know when to stop and walk away & 3. not gloating too much when i win
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October 29, 2016, 07:38:18 AM
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For a small part it maybe matter but in my eyes it does not matter for the big part because it stays gambling and you need luck to make profit.
Luckily I do not play for the profit but for the enjoyment.
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October 29, 2016, 07:46:45 AM
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I think yes especially for playing gambling are like sports gambling and gambling card because they need skills when play. But i am sure for playing gambling that depend on my lucky is like dice gambling because it can not be predicted.
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October 29, 2016, 09:17:11 AM
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I think yes especially for playing gambling are like sports gambling and gambling card because they need skills when play. But i am sure for playing gambling that depend on my lucky is like dice gambling because it can not be predicted.

Yeah, card games and sports betting is only based on our skills so that I'm strongly agreed with you, this is reality in dice game nobody can predict what is going to happen with next roll it's very unpredictable method of gambling and same with other game like roulette.
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October 29, 2016, 10:20:02 AM
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I think yes especially for playing gambling are like sports gambling and gambling card because they need skills when play. But i am sure for playing gambling that depend on my lucky is like dice gambling because it can not be predicted.

I think dice game can also be predicted but unlike sports betting in which you can see how they roll the game. In dice you really can't see behind programs that is actually doing the work which makes it difficult to predict.
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October 29, 2016, 10:20:07 AM
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I think yes especially for playing gambling are like sports gambling and gambling card because they need skills when play. But i am sure for playing gambling that depend on my lucky is like dice gambling because it can not be predicted.

Yeah, card games and sports betting is only based on our skills so that I'm strongly agreed with you, this is reality in dice game nobody can predict what is going to happen with next roll it's very unpredictable method of gambling and same with other game like roulette.

Yes because at first you will lost so it is better to have experience in every game you have. Just set a goal profit in your game plan and do it so that you have a chance to win in your bet and your funds will go up.
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October 29, 2016, 10:35:22 AM
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i could be the most skillest mofo in the world and Lady Luck would still be "you know what. fuck this guy. he gonna lose."

i could could sit down on a table with my years of experience and my stoniest poker face and Luck will still call my bluff and fuck me up.

i coulda mastered the ultimate flick wrist to roll dice in craps in my favor and Luck woulda still snap my wrist in to two, crap in it and slap me with the face with it.

exaggeration aside, experience does matter but you also have to remember that experience is not always applicable in some areas of gambling. but if experience taught me something its 1. don't cheat twice 2. know when to stop and walk away & 3. not gloating too much when i win
But such luck doesn't exist. Nobody has mastered the art of luck. It's not trainable, it's not learned. There's no course out there that teaches you how to be lucky. Luck is purely based on, well, luck and nothing else. Even if you play gambling for a long time, luck would still not increase. Everything would still be random and you can only say that you're "lucky" when the outcomes are in favor of you.

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October 29, 2016, 11:01:12 AM
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Experience does really matters in gambling because if you are don't have any experience in gambling and you try it, I think you will ended up on losing all your bitcoin because you don't know really knows how gambling works and so on. Someone might also fool you because they would easily notice that you are a newbie in gambling. There are a lots of things that can happen to you on anything that you do in your life if you don't have any experience at all.
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October 29, 2016, 11:18:06 AM
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Experience does really matters in gambling because if you are don't have any experience in gambling and you try it, I think you will ended up on losing all your bitcoin because you don't know really knows how gambling works and so on. Someone might also fool you because they would easily notice that you are a newbie in gambling. There are a lots of things that can happen to you on anything that you do in your life if you don't have any experience at all.
I agree you got a point there and its so true that most of the players that if they know that you are a newbie without knowledge about gambling instead of teaching you a right way they will teach you in a wrong way which you will lose you're money.so its better to ry first some gambling games with a very low amount because experience will make you learn .like on real world if you do not know you need to experience first to learn and to have skills .


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October 29, 2016, 11:42:51 AM
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Of course experience is important fact in everything and gambling also is where it really matters. I will say like someone already experienced help you to choose better odds, you know how and why you lose previous bets or simply how to make a bet online. An inexperienced person faces lot of problems at start. Experience doesn't mean to win but to get better manage the bets.
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October 29, 2016, 02:46:00 PM
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Of course experience is important fact in everything and gambling also is where it really matters. I will say like someone already experienced help you to choose better odds, you know how and why you lose previous bets or simply how to make a bet online. An inexperienced person faces lot of problems at start. Experience doesn't mean to win but to get better manage the bets.
Our experience will make us clever in gambling, like me I have been playing sports betting and when I was just a newbie I solely rely on the statistics that I can see in the internet on capping games but once I stay longer in gambling, I realize some games are rigged so I know how to handle my bet under the scenario.

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November 03, 2016, 01:52:01 AM
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For me experience does really in gambling. Many will say that experience is a must because that involves strategy on how to win it. However, there are some people that rely on luck. I better believe on strategy from experience because it also makes you strong. It makes you more prepared and adjust yourself to all the frustrations and irritation while playing. Experience makes you understand yourself and managed your emotions. Experience counts more.
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November 03, 2016, 01:57:33 AM
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For me experience does really in gambling. Many will say that experience is a must because that involves strategy on how to win it. However, there are some people that rely on luck. I better believe on strategy from experience because it also makes you strong. It makes you more prepared and adjust yourself to all the frustrations and irritation while playing. Experience makes you understand yourself and managed your emotions. Experience counts more.


I agree with you. Experience really matters in gambling, if you have much experience you can make more profit because you know how to play, when to change the strategy, when to cashout, when to move to another site. And of course if you have experience you have self control. Experienced people rarely lose on gambling games.
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November 03, 2016, 02:02:19 AM
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For me experience does really in gambling. Many will say that experience is a must because that involves strategy on how to win it. However, there are some people that rely on luck. I better believe on strategy from experience because it also makes you strong. It makes you more prepared and adjust yourself to all the frustrations and irritation while playing. Experience makes you understand yourself and managed your emotions. Experience counts more.

Without experience chances would be more little unlike when you have a lots of it the edge of winning would be much better its really needed when you are playing gamble.
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November 03, 2016, 02:18:25 AM
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For me experience does really in gambling. Many will say that experience is a must because that involves strategy on how to win it. However, there are some people that rely on luck. I better believe on strategy from experience because it also makes you strong. It makes you more prepared and adjust yourself to all the frustrations and irritation while playing. Experience makes you understand yourself and managed your emotions. Experience counts more.

there is nothing you can do with this experience if you gamble on a luck based games.

it is just a myth , online casino designed by math. it is myth vs math , you think it will works? of course it will not work. poker and sports betting both are the only games which will get an effect with experience.

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November 03, 2016, 02:25:03 AM
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For me experience does really in gambling. Many will say that experience is a must because that involves strategy on how to win it. However, there are some people that rely on luck. I better believe on strategy from experience because it also makes you strong. It makes you more prepared and adjust yourself to all the frustrations and irritation while playing. Experience makes you understand yourself and managed your emotions. Experience counts more.

Without experience chances would be more little unlike when you have a lots of it the edge of winning would be much better its really needed when you are playing gamble.
Yes ,it matters most than luck if you have a lot of experience just like in life you will have an advantage because you already know some  things that happens in you or something else ,gambling is like that more experience and knowledge will take you ahead but it will depends on you how you will do .Not all experience are needed sometimes it needs mind and patience.


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November 03, 2016, 03:52:49 AM
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For me experience does really in gambling. Many will say that experience is a must because that involves strategy on how to win it. However, there are some people that rely on luck. I better believe on strategy from experience because it also makes you strong. It makes you more prepared and adjust yourself to all the frustrations and irritation while playing. Experience makes you understand yourself and managed your emotions. Experience counts more.

Without experience chances would be more little unlike when you have a lots of it the edge of winning would be much better its really needed when you are playing gamble.
Yes ,it matters most than luck if you have a lot of experience just like in life you will have an advantage because you already know some  things that happens in you or something else ,gambling is like that more experience and knowledge will take you ahead but it will depends on you how you will do .Not all experience are needed sometimes it needs mind and patience.
Your experience will guarantee you that you will be able to do the right way in gambling, you will eventually experience and loses and due to your mix emotions you might end up chasing bets, but a person with experience understand the risk, and he is clever enough to let go of the loses and hope for the next session to win in slowly.

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November 03, 2016, 04:56:29 AM
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Eperiences will only give an effect on skill based game like poker and sports betting. On luck based game like dice or slots game, experiences gives nothing in case of the probabilty to win. No matter how long we have been playing on luck based game, we cant predict the result. Unlike on sportsbetting, the more experiences we have the more chances we will get better winning chance.

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November 03, 2016, 05:08:41 AM
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Eperiences will only give an effect on skill based game like poker and sports betting. On luck based game like dice or slots game, experiences gives nothing in case of the probabilty to win. No matter how long we have been playing on luck based game, we cant predict the result. Unlike on sportsbetting, the more experiences we have the more chances we will get better winning chance.

True. even these experienced gamblers who play slot machines and dice games doesn't have their own strategy to win the game.. it's just prediction and luck that helps them to win the game.

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November 03, 2016, 03:18:41 PM
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Of course experience in gambling really matters because if you know how to take a risk and you are just staying calm even you gamble with the highest risk.

That is going to give you positive vibes and if we are going to see those inexperience gamblers when they came to the part of gambling with the highest risk.

I don't think they are able to maintain their calmness and positive vibes.
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