『【Kolder Lending Service】』〝Approved Loan in a Flash"

[zazarb]

exactly, and what I said in post above, even more OP slogan "Approved Loan in a Flash"-

becomes ironic, is difficult to reconcile that three different persons would at the same time online, plus

aditional time waiting for confirmayion one more  btc transaction ...

[josephdd1]

Dark S is right. More efford, more fees, more time, more, more...
Imho you can use escrow only for the 1 thing, that is to secure the collateral and nothing more.

If the lender have the money in his wallet, it will send them to the borrower asap. No need for escrow on this.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         

[Timelord2067]

I Timelord2067 u=131361 agree to be the Escrow for "Kolder Lending Service - Approved Loan in a Flash" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1635890.0 for user Kolder u=662310 on a trial run between the 10/10/2016 until 31/12/2016 noon GMT

-snip-

Isn't it more effective for the escrow to simply hold the collateral, and not touch the loan funds? You could get Kolder to pay you 0.0001BTC for each successful transaction afterward, as it basically has the same affect. Instead of:
Kolder agrees to fund the loan, sends loan amount to Timelord
Timelord gets collateral, forwards the amount to the person getting the loan
Person Repays to Timelord, Timelord returns collateral
Timelord forwards repayment to Kolder

Why not something like this? (what most lenders do):
Kolder agrees to fund the loan, gets the person getting to loan to send collateral to Timelord
Timelord secures the collateral, Kolder sends the funds
Person repay's to Kolder's address, Timelord sends collateral back.

Seems like more of a hassle doing it the first way.

In your gleeful haste to trim my post, you've left out the most important couple of lines in the whole post:

I Timelord2067 u=131361 agree to be the Escrow for "Kolder Lending Service - Approved Loan in a Flash" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1635890.0 for user Kolder u=662310 on a trial run between the 10/10/2016 until 31/12/2016 noon GMT

-snip-

If you wish to deal directly with Kolder for funding and repayments:

Other people (eg zazarb) offering Escrow can be found at "Bitcointalk Escrows" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0

I am online at least once per 24 hour period - this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=131361;sa=statPanel will give you an indication of when I am likely to be online; don't bug me with any hard luck stories!

I will *not* Escrow any PayPal transactions.

So I've given both Kolder and any lender the option of going someplace else for Escrow.

exactly, and what I said in post above, even more OP slogan "Approved Loan in a Flash"-

becomes ironic, is difficult to reconcile that three different persons would at the same time online, plus

additional time waiting for confirmation one more  btc transaction ...

By using myself When Kolder receives the loan application (be it after they have been away from their desk, or is actually online) they can send the funds to me when they approve the loan the lender can see the funds are there and can send the password to secure the collateral - it's then a question of when am I online to do the actual securing of the collateral and to release the funds.

There are threads such as Bitcointalk Escrows - Trade Safely! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0 where you can search out Escrows and see how they operate.

Dark S is right. More efford, more fees, more time, more, more...
Imho you can use escrow only for the 1 thing, that is to secure the collateral and nothing more.

If the lender have the money in his wallet, it will send them to the borrower asap. No need for escrow on this.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          

And yet on the first page zazarb writes:

Because there is so many account selling as of now.

exactly, I notify that you account have even 336 potential activity, which is a very important sign, that account bought, Looking at your post history clearly see that activity start just month ago.

Important!!! All the collateral should be held by trusted third party escrow for safety of buyer.

So Kolder approached me to be an Escrow - these are my terms to be an Escrow:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1635890.msg16481988#msg16481988

OK?

Anyone who chooses not to use Escrow for any traders or lenders (especially ones who say not to use Escrow) only have themselves to blame if or when something goes wrong.

OK?

[Kolder]

Timelord is right. The borrower have the right to choose their preferred escrow. I just avail timelord as my default escrow service for fast transaction. He is very active unlike other trusted escrow on service section. The rules he stated is to be applied when the borrower won't provide trusted escrow. My standard method will be apply for other escrow service. I hope it clears now.


For the borrowers who applies thru PM. I will not accept your loan request even if you are qualified unless you post it here and use the proper format. It's final. Thanks and Goodluck.

[Venessian]

Amount of Loan:0.02
Date to be paid:17 october
Collateral type:this account
Signed message:

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I venessian take a loan from kolder with my account as collateral today October 10, 2016
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1VNZNZ3tt9ZFqWgoQduRqEXnqcPpSgg8Q
 G9TVRMDmhDh+1azZ7BqU5AAO/cWsKYEN6dNmya8mrWArJATu54jro2arrW7FyjTJCe81v79TdhlfkK+hoJT/H0c=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Link to your Post on BCT forum containing your BTC addy (2mos+): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1337731.msg13647293#msg13647293

[Kolder]

Amount of Loan:0.02
Date to be paid:17 october
Collateral type:this account
Signed message:

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I venessian take a loan from kolder with my account as collateral today October 10, 2016
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1VNZNZ3tt9ZFqWgoQduRqEXnqcPpSgg8Q
 G9TVRMDmhDh+1azZ7BqU5AAO/cWsKYEN6dNmya8mrWArJATu54jro2arrW7FyjTJCe81v79TdhlfkK+hoJT/H0c=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Link to your Post on BCT forum containing your BTC addy (2mos+): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1337731.msg13647293#msg13647293

hello. i can only offer you 0.01btc based on your collateral. PM me if you accepted my offer and we can proceed now. Thanks

[ahoenk]

hei...

can i get a loan for one week with this account,

yes i have negative feedback, i dont know, people give me negative because i want to get loan for reputable..then suddenly they give me negative feedback..

[Kolder]

hei...

can i get a loan for one week with this account,

yes i have negative feedback, i don't know, people give me negative because i want to get loan for reputable..then suddenly they give me negative feedback..

i already saw your issue. Availing loan for for the purpose of building trust is a bad idea mate. Maybe you should have a public apology or contact the DT that gave you negative feedback and promise that don't do it again. I'm sorry to say but i will not accept your loan application due to the collateral issue. I suggest that clear first your trust record before you reapply. I hope you won't get mad at me. Thanks

[Kolder]

Bump for today!

[Atari---]

10$ BTC
Collateral, ID, Selfies, This Account, Paxful account, Netflix account.
Repay 80% interest
Personal reasoning
Repay 5 days
3KuBy1QWUvDTgobU4r5wo9eGVQ9BCsuZsG

[KWH]

10$ BTC
Collateral, ID, Selfies, This Account, Paxful account, Netflix account.
Repay 80% interest
Personal reasoning
Repay 5 days
3KuBy1QWUvDTgobU4r5wo9eGVQ9BCsuZsG

1. Jr. member and below ranks is not eligible for my loan service even if you are on DT. Because there is so many account selling as of now.

[Atari---]

10$ BTC
Collateral, ID, Selfies, This Account, Paxful account, Netflix account.
Repay 80% interest
Personal reasoning
Repay 5 days
3KuBy1QWUvDTgobU4r5wo9eGVQ9BCsuZsG

1. Jr. member and below ranks is not eligible for my loan service even if you are on DT. Because there is so many account selling as of now.

Even with all the other collateral I offered? I really need this loan and I'm doing the best I can to provide what I have to offer. It's all I have to offer. Just because I'm a Jr. Memeber. Got to be some point to draw a line and give someone a chance here. I'm accused of scamming just because I'm new? *shrugs* like where do you people get off. It's killing me.

[KWH]

10$ BTC
Collateral, ID, Selfies, This Account, Paxful account, Netflix account.
Repay 80% interest
Personal reasoning
Repay 5 days
3KuBy1QWUvDTgobU4r5wo9eGVQ9BCsuZsG

1. Jr. member and below ranks is not eligible for my loan service even if you are on DT. Because there is so many account selling as of now.

Even with all the other collateral I offered? I really need this loan and I'm doing the best I can to provide what I have to offer. It's all I have to offer. Just because I'm a Jr. Memeber. Got to be some point to draw a line and give someone a chance here. I'm accused of scamming just because I'm new? *shrugs* like where do you people get off. It's killing me.

Questionable behavior
Multiple loan requests
Negative Trust
Fit the scammer profile perfectly

You are not entitled to anyone's coin, period.

[Atari---]

Oh yeah? I just got the loan from : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=657268

In your face. And I WILL be repaying it.

[josephdd1]

Oh yeah? I just got the loan from : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=657268

In your face. And I WILL be repaying it.

And where is your tx of this transaction?
Did Lionidas know about it? lol

It will be great to see him post and confirmed that he actually give you a loan...
Any amount!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        

[Timelord2067]

Oh yeah? I just got the loan from : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=657268

In your face. And I WILL be repaying it.

So you sold got a loan for a different Jr Member account three days ago

http://archive.is/8fqSL#selection-494.1-537.105
http://archive.is/8fqSL#selection-9292.1-9327.35

and now you're cashing out getting a loan with another person (for this account (Atari---)), yet neither your https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=901201;sa=showPosts;start=0 nor their https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=657268;sa=showPosts latest posts for the last few days at least show an loan application.

[karakhan]

Amount of Loan:0.01
Amount to be paid:0.012
Date to be paid:october 22,2016
Collateral type:this account

adress:13h89nB41o4QoNn93kHmmm8rRYzcF3sYGo

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1304451.msg13403066#msg13403066

thats karakhan from bitcointalk and asking loan from kolder

IOoUfVp3g+rD6DUzD+5w0o4ektswacfoTuE1YtJuC1bsXYLpdfhXGP0WcCg43APyqMLncaXsuYNaaZgBArbdO00=

[Omegasun]

Amount of Loan:0.01
Amount to be paid:0.012
Date to be paid:october 22,2016
Collateral type:this account

adress:13h89nB41o4QoNn93kHmmm8rRYzcF3sYGo

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1304451.msg13403066#msg13403066

thats karakhan from bitcointalk and asking loan from kolder

IOoUfVp3g+rD6DUzD+5w0o4ektswacfoTuE1YtJuC1bsXYLpdfhXGP0WcCg43APyqMLncaXsuYNaaZgBArbdO00=

are you reading carefully dude? I think he will not entertain your loan even if you wait for a year. 

[karakhan]

Amount of Loan:0.01
Amount to be paid:0.012
Date to be paid:october 22,2016
Collateral type:this account

adress:13h89nB41o4QoNn93kHmmm8rRYzcF3sYGo

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1304451.msg13403066#msg13403066

thats karakhan from bitcointalk and asking loan from kolder

IOoUfVp3g+rD6DUzD+5w0o4ektswacfoTuE1YtJuC1bsXYLpdfhXGP0WcCg43APyqMLncaXsuYNaaZgBArbdO00=

are you reading carefully dude? I think he will not entertain your loan even if you wait for a year. 

yes i read and couldnt understand why you said that?

[Omegasun]

Amount of Loan:0.01
Amount to be paid:0.012
Date to be paid:october 22,2016
Collateral type:this account

adress:13h89nB41o4QoNn93kHmmm8rRYzcF3sYGo

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1304451.msg13403066#msg13403066

thats karakhan from bitcointalk and asking loan from kolder

IOoUfVp3g+rD6DUzD+5w0o4ektswacfoTuE1YtJuC1bsXYLpdfhXGP0WcCg43APyqMLncaXsuYNaaZgBArbdO00=

are you reading carefully dude? I think he will not entertain your loan even if you wait for a year. 

yes i read and couldnt understand why you said that?

 Because you have negative reputation and it is not worthy as a collateral. Just clear first your reputation just like what OP clearly stated in his past post. I wonder where is the OP of this thread.