'Brave' browser starts paying bitcoins

[franky1]

It is an interesting idea to implemented bitcoin into paid browser, I do hope this project can continue and expand, the more bitcoin user the more stable price we got, hopefully it dont slowing the internet connection that we have and contents of the ads is informative

wrong. the more users the less stable.
think of it like faucets. the more people raiding faucets by clicking links on web pages the less income they get per click
then google stop providing adsense revenue to the website due to the 'clicks' not being of any quality.
which is then a downward spiral
less income to share= more clicks from users to attempt to get income = less income to share =....

It's cool i give you that but i don't see more users than some geeks trying it out. people tend to be lazy and not care, so i don't see why they should bother.

many geeks do sig campaigns and raid faucets. and this will be braves downfall.

That's why they should implement those 15% payments to users as soon as possible. Earning BTC for browsing, even if it's only few satoshis per day etc., could be pretty strong incentive to switch to Brave. Currently only available option to enable users to pay for browsing is not appealing at all to average user.

why implement the payout as soon as possible. they first have to get websites to partner with brave and agree to braves features in exchange for an income. this should be done first, to ensure websites get paid. long before handing funds to users.

again its worth mentioning, if people take the greed hat off and put a business hat on to think about how to run a sustainable business/concept. rushing to hand users funds before the content creators can get paid. is a downward spiral

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[eternalgloom]

Looks like a promising project, but it will be hard to gain marketshare from IE and Chrome.
I looked on their website, but couldn't find which underlying engine they are using.

I assume they've written their own from scratch? Does anyone know more about this?

Edit: Looks like it's based on Chromium
http://www.zdnet.com/article/brave-new-browser-eich-returns-with-chromium-browser-that-replaces-ads/

[pawel7777]

That's why they should implement those 15% payments to users as soon as possible. Earning BTC for browsing, even if it's only few satoshis per day etc., could be pretty strong incentive to switch to Brave. Currently only available option to enable users to pay for browsing is not appealing at all to average user.

why implement the payout as soon as possible. they first have to get websites to partner with brave and agree to braves features in exchange for an income. this should be done first, to ensure websites get paid. long before handing funds to users.

again its worth mentioning, if people take the greed hat off and put a business hat on to think about how to run a sustainable business/concept. rushing to hand users funds before the content creators can get paid. is a downward spiral

"As soon as possible" =/= "immediately"

And they don't need to partner up with any websites, they'll be replacing certain type of ads and replacing them with their own on every website (like it or not). The appropriate portion of tips/ad revenue will be made available for webmasters to claim (or ignore).

So more appropriate question is whether they have enough advertisers for their own ads, getting such could be tough without gaining critical mass of users first. So I'd say they need to bring all the pieces at the (almost) same time, they can't afford to wait and lose the momentum.

[franky1]

The appropriate portion of tips/ad revenue will be made available for webmasters to claim (or ignore).

ok i see your point. my head was in another zone concentrating on other issues not related to this topic, to not see the blindingly obvious of there being no pre-requisite need for websites to 'signup'
i originally was running scenarios based on things like

19. Are there any other ads that Brave would not block?
Our plan for the future includes allowing publishers to signal the browser in real-time when they have direct-sold ads that are worth more than what Brave can provide.

imagining they were going to work with a select list of websites that will be brave compatible to earn users/website funds. as oppose to braves funding model and clean ads model being open to all sites

So more appropriate question is whether they have enough advertisers for their own ads, getting such could be tough without gaining critical mass of users first. So I'd say they need to bring all the pieces at the (almost) same time, they can't afford to wait and lose the momentum.

yes getting advertisers to agree on any level of income should come first. but a hard hill to climb to make the concept appealing.
but still expect it to change later if the 'service' brave offers becomes too saturated with fund leachers making the quality of views drop while the quantity rises. causing the 'price rate' per view/click to drop

so i hope Brave have done a few formulae and are going to set some upper limit to how much a user can leach, to avoid the downward spiral

[BitcoinHodler]

i have been looking for ways of getting rid of ads on different websites i visit and i found adblock extension for my browser and that improved my web surfing experience a lot from that time onwards i have been looking for ways to improve this experience and ever since i found out about Brave Browser i have been following its development and i have to say i think in a very short time after it comes out of beta it will conquer the internet and will change all the percentage usages from Chrome and Firefox.

[veleten]

everybody is talking about  earning/not earning money with this new browser
I wonder why the security concern has never been raised?Will your sensitive data be safe with this browser?How well and fast will it be updated and isues fixed?
Is the brave team capable to compete with Coogle Chrome or FF?
more questions than answers at the moment

[franky1]

everybody is talking about the earning/not earning money with this new browser
I wonder why the security concern has never been raised?Will your sensitive data be safe with this browser?How well and fast will it be updated and isues fixed?
Is the brave team capable to compete with Coogle Chrome or FF?
more questions than answers at the moment

chrome based by the looks of it and there is also a github that people can check.
though we can presume the shell of the browser (window, buttons and textbox) wont grab data, the chrome component itself still could grab data, after all it is google owned

[elyas772]

sorry im late to know it, any official link, where i can download and trying the brave browser?
i think this is good idea for the advancement of the world of advertising

[danherbias07]

I dont think there are much people willing to use a new and probably worse browser which shows them adversting just to earn a few sats.

You've got that exactly backwards.

I haven't d/l it yet, but I have it on my to-do list. For me the golden age of the internet was 1996-97, when information was available without being deluged in a swamp of advertising/video that slows your machine and crashes your browser. I tend to actively avoid many news websites because they are such an unstable mess. So while I hated the idea of paying to view a page, the sheer obnoxiousness of the current state of affairs has brought me around to Brave's model of micro-payments to see ad-free information. I think in the long run it will carve out a significant niche at a minimum.

Please make it clear to me. Are they really going to pay just for browsing or we are the one who will be paying for the service of no advertisement in the browser? Different definitions are coming. This must be straighten out.

[jak3]

its nice to see a browser like this in the market i was heard only many rumers about it from some months well it seems that the official link is not yet published and tjey are just doing experiment with a small amount of users. of anyone have the download like then can you please send me that in pm

[jak3]

its nice to see a browser like this in the market i was heard only many rumers about it from some months well it seems that the official link is not yet published and tjey are just doing experiment with a small amount of users. of anyone have the download like then can you please send me that in pm

[Wendigo]

The concept of including Bitcoin transactions within the Brave browser itself is very interesting. I don't get one thing though. Why the heck would users prefer to pay money to websites to not see their ads? I mean supporting people is a noble thing but come on. I don't think this 'groundbreaking' idea will take off when we have more or less free alternatives like Ad-Block and many others. Browsing the Internet should be free of ads by default and paying money to strip the ads from the webpages is just a travesty.

[veleten]

The concept of including Bitcoin transactions within the Brave browser itself is very interesting. I don't get one thing though. Why the heck would users prefer to pay money to websites to not see their ads? I mean supporting people is a noble thing but come on. I don't think this 'groundbreaking' idea will take off when we have more or less free alternatives like Ad-Block and many others. Browsing the Internet should be free of ads by default and paying money to strip the ads from the webpages is just a travesty.

there is a Civil war between users who do not want to see any ads and who are using ad-block or u-block or any other alternative vs sites whos sole existense is maintained by showing ads
they are using ad-block detection scripts,antiadblock http://antiblock.org/ and so on,then there are anti antiadblock add-ons to kill antiadblock  https://reek.github.io/anti-adblock-killer/
the war is raging on and on ,where each side has its own arguments pro  and  con
as for the browser itself,I can name at least 7 different browsers,both mozilla and chromium based that failed to take off and get substantial  market share
I think disabled ads can be one of the perks of the new browser,but it has to offer much much more than that

[calkob]

yeah last time i looked at brave browser it didnt look that promising, it was all about paying websites for there content, but this is rather more promising now if they are willing to pay users for watching ads, cant see how that model can last long term tho ?

[countryfree]

I will not use that Brave browser because I like to keep my browsing private. I've already tuned my software to block all cookies from google, facebook and most advertisers!
I thought all BTC users liked to retain their privacy...

[The Sceptical Chymist]

This yet another situation where bitcoin is being crowbarred into something where it doesn't belong.   Where it has little reason to exist, like faucets.  It's another example of the fact that if you want bitcoin, you should use your RL job earnings and buy them.

[isen]

I don't find it interesting and I am afraid that this project will fail hard,who will pay only to be able to browse without ads when he can use a better browser + Adblock for free?Only a few people will do it just to show their support the rest will install it and try to earn a few satoshi using it.

[ebliever]

I dont think there are much people willing to use a new and probably worse browser which shows them adversting just to earn a few sats.

You've got that exactly backwards.

I haven't d/l it yet, but I have it on my to-do list. For me the golden age of the internet was 1996-97, when information was available without being deluged in a swamp of advertising/video that slows your machine and crashes your browser. I tend to actively avoid many news websites because they are such an unstable mess. So while I hated the idea of paying to view a page, the sheer obnoxiousness of the current state of affairs has brought me around to Brave's model of micro-payments to see ad-free information. I think in the long run it will carve out a significant niche at a minimum.

Please make it clear to me. Are they really going to pay just for browsing or we are the one who will be paying for the service of no advertisement in the browser? Different definitions are coming. This must be straighten out.

As I understand it, both are true. Depending on what options the website you visit has, you might be able to visit a news website, for example, and  see all the news articles ad-free by making a micro-payment. Or you might opt to view ads along with the news, in which case the browser facilitates payments both from the advertisers to the news site, as well as to you for viewing them. In principle it could turn just about everything into a bitcoin faucet. :-)

[~Bitcoin~]

The concept they have is not quite intresting as not many people will love to donate to block ads as there are other popular and good adblocker software available which can do the work like brave without any donation or fee. Low traffic webpage publishers may not get much donation amount as donated amount is distributed according to number of visits the user will make, may be youtube get higher percentage if i start using brave browser.

[Dudeperfect]

I see this as something like Tsu (it was a content ownership program where users were getting paid for using it, platform was similar to facebook but revenue sharing was the usp of tsu). Brave is something on the same path, It allows site visitors to voluntarily donate something to the sites they liked and wish to support. I think they must be using some technology like alexa toolbar where they can allow users to manage their website preferences and donations.